I recently picked one of these out of an ewaste bin, its fully working! Upgraded the CPU's, added a second CPU, more RAM and some drives I had lying around. Fun little machine to play with
Whoa, I'm envious of that standalone Thinkpad keyboard. These things (I mean keyboards on Thinkpads, up to 420/520 series) are so wonderful and tactile. Having a wireless one would be even better. Just imagine local console debugging a Raspberry Pi when you can't just SSH into it... :) As for renaming interfaces, I'm OK with it only when they're radically reengineered in a way that breaks forward and backward compatibility. The server looks really nicely packed on the inside. Just like TARDIS. 12 cores (24 threads? not sure if these Xeons support HT), 16 ECC DDR3 slots - all that in a single rack unit, I'd totally take it. No need for anything bigger for webserver+storage.
I have that server, it's nice 🙂 I am running Fedora Linux on it, it can't run current versions of RHEL or CentOS because drivers just aren't available in the enterprise kernel but latest Fedora is great, passed through the USB serial interface to the imm into a server 2012 VM and was able to update the firmware that way. I am mostly using it as a lab server for spinning up VM's and containers 👍 I was planning on getting more storage but not currently a high priority.
Wow, what timing you have. A 7042-cr5 arrived today and I need to replace the DVD drive. Can you make a short video showing how to replace the DVD drive in the x3550 m2. Thanks
15:30 - Not just that. The IPC of your AMD is dramaticly higher - has less cores. So it will "feel" faster (cause it works though less at a time, but does it faster) even if they had the same ammount of total Calculative Capacity
WOWOW Thank excellent great info for my "Ordeal By Fire" - im in thailand and I paid 66 pounds for one and its got ProxMox in it (no login data) and what maybe a small IDE drive under the raid controller I'll examine the raid controller to see if it has the 2TB limitations and examine the MMI to see if I need a key, just ordered another whole one for spares and maybe the second CPU/RAM shall cannibalise out, as I only need one test server, I thought well what the heck I'll buy one instead of making a NAS out of fartberry pies or wasting money on a NAS which I did many time before elsewhere and hated it. SO grateful for your video - our power supplies here are cheaper than anything and noise doesnt worry me as I have an RF test bunker where it is going to live at the end of my fibre under the garden! (yes I put my own 63mm MDPE utility pipes in everywhere as I built my own house!! Great "ab initio help" for me clip... PS I don't care how old it is, I am 71, so I've seen it all since 1979 and making computers the size of twenty 2 U racks work hahaha!! Anyway, my second (and final ) marriage is 13 years old so as the wedding bells chimed (or the monks chanted in my case) this was getting made 🙂!!!!! tak skal du have!
on my Dell server thats from 2013 i think i replaced the blanks with empty drive caddies as when i would take the server outside of my house to dust it out the fillers was a pain to get out and plus when they was in place they didnt look right either
@@MyPlayHouse i know the risks but i know airflow is also different in a 5U chasis but from what ive seen the drives in the system now seem to stay happy
Hi! I recently started in the world of servers and so far I have everything on xserve; I also really like IBM and ... I stumbled upon your channel while searching (I'm already subscribed, of course). I have a question, maybe you can answer it, what storage do those 6 bays on SSD support?
They are too old to be of any real use. For next to nothing you can get one newer server that can do the workload of 6 IBM x346's and save a lot of power. But for playing around with brilliant.
I got one (IBM System x3550 M2) but my is from 2007 so its diffrent and also my have 2x 3,5" disk slots (also any version of M2 supports not SAS but SATA II or III
From what I can see the x3550 M2 was announced in 2009,,, is it not a first gen x3550 you might have. The Intel Xeon 5500 CPU series is from November 2008
1 thing that bugs me is that IBMs “less expensive” Line of hardware has the better diagnostic panel and the more expensive Power7 line has a cheaper stamped sheet metal diagnostic/operator panel that seems really flimsy and easier to break in my opinion
It is possible to put the X5675 and X5679 in this IBM System x3550 M2 server. The X5680 processor uses to much power. Be sure to firmware update before updating CPU´s.
I got myself a x3650 M4. I am having trouble, using the remote BIOS in the IMM for setting up Disks remotely for example. I tried IE 11 as well as Edge in IE Mode. Have you gotten that to work? If so, with java or DirectX?
That server is, not at all cheap. The 100Pounds you pay might sound cheap. But run it for 5 years and you would wish you would have bought a more power efficient modern server. OPS/Watt is off by miles :D
Not all servers run 24/7. We have one old Sun Server that only runs nightly to do backups. And developer servers that are used when needed to run for example 3 h long stress tests. It’s a tiny number of use cases, mostly hobby and learning of course
I don't run any of my servers 24/7. I only use it to fck around with VMware/vCenter/Windows/Linux in lab envorionments. This also applies for my homelab's network.
@@LynxCarpathica uhm... guys... power usage pr. instruction is not a 24/7 thing... That stuff happens when you spend 10 hours compiling a kernel on a 20 year old machine using 500watt instead of using a brand new 12 core ryzen5 that uses 65 watts and does the job in 1 hour.... 65 watts vs. 5000 watt....
Is 550 euro for an IBM X3550 M4 with 2 Intel Xeon E5-2690 V2 3,0ghz and 256gb DDR3 memory (16x 16gb) expensive? no hdd's and nog brackets it does have a raid controller: IBM ServeRAID M5110.
These are lot more common and cheap than the 2 u brother, strange as hell. I am going to buy one (m3) only for a thing, 1 you can put in gpus 2 i want to play with lenovo xclarity and i need a server that is not involved in other projects to not mess with disks and os (1x x5675 64 gb 85€ shipped to italy) and someone might want this to start homelabing
Hi f1r3man1000 Welcome aboard! :-) I make new videos every Tuesday and Friday. (14.00 CET , 8 am EST) and there might be an extra off subject video or LiveStream doing the weekend. I read and reply to as many NEW comments as I can, I do not often get to reply, reply´s (UA-cam messed that up) Keep them short,, please. And if you do not hate something, remember to Like :-) Thank you for watching! :-)
@@MyPlayHouse 1. It's not possible to spec this server to be 100USD in BH with ram, PSU, empty caddies without drives, 6x8gb and no raid CURRENT CONFIGURATION £184.80Inc. VAT 2. HP ProLiant DL360e Gen8 1U 8x 2.5" (SFF) CURRENT CONFIGURATION £198.00Inc. VAT single 2440v2, 3x8gb, B120 RAID, 4 HDD Trays, 2x PSU Much better performance for little more. Heck you can get trays from china much cheaper (as i did) And this is Ivy Bridge so... Also You can get rails if you want on BH if you want. So yes. Terrible deal for IBM I had DL380e and for it's price i got from BargainHardware it was awesome.
mine was great single CPU with RAM and some IBM SAS drives and MMI all for 66 UK pounds equiv in THAILAND where we do this - we just-- "dont care about full gas tank prices, dont care about cellphone prices, have 1Gbps into home full duplex for 12 pounds per month and very cold beer, 35C most days, and friendly police you pay off if your pissed, and cheap food, etc etc etc. " Morton is on the ball these are great for beginners or none-to-serious apps! So nicely made too (I am a retired manufacturer) !!!
"It's sensor or something. It has that little thing, that does something" Explained like a pro Morten :D
There is a something there :-)
@@MyPlayHouse There is definitely something :D
I recently picked one of these out of an ewaste bin, its fully working! Upgraded the CPU's, added a second CPU, more RAM and some drives I had lying around. Fun little machine to play with
Free,, is not that much to expensive :-)
"And we have some spider webs here... must have been a web server". ROTFLMAO!
Thank you,, I might have used that joke before :-)
That is a legend of a server currently rocking that one :) works amazing
Well build,, it is always good when they just keep ticking!
You know you're in for a treat when a server PSU becomes a ship from Star Wars!
:-) could not do much more, because of copyrights :-)
Whoa, I'm envious of that standalone Thinkpad keyboard. These things (I mean keyboards on Thinkpads, up to 420/520 series) are so wonderful and tactile.
Having a wireless one would be even better. Just imagine local console debugging a Raspberry Pi when you can't just SSH into it... :)
As for renaming interfaces, I'm OK with it only when they're radically reengineered in a way that breaks forward and backward compatibility.
The server looks really nicely packed on the inside. Just like TARDIS. 12 cores (24 threads? not sure if these Xeons support HT), 16 ECC DDR3 slots - all that in a single rack unit, I'd totally take it. No need for anything bigger for webserver+storage.
I think the list of names for the management is a bit to long.
I have that server, it's nice 🙂 I am running Fedora Linux on it, it can't run current versions of RHEL or CentOS because drivers just aren't available in the enterprise kernel but latest Fedora is great, passed through the USB serial interface to the imm into a server 2012 VM and was able to update the firmware that way. I am mostly using it as a lab server for spinning up VM's and containers 👍 I was planning on getting more storage but not currently a high priority.
Hi Ryan Here
Thank You very much! glad you liked the video :-)
Thank you for watching! :-)
Wow, what timing you have. A 7042-cr5 arrived today and I need to replace the DVD drive. Can you make a short video showing how to replace the DVD drive in the x3550 m2. Thanks
I am sure I could,, it would be extremely short.. But I am on vacation,, so you will beat me to it.. :-)
those power supplies aren't from star wars, they are from SPACE BALLS first seconds of the movie :D
Classic movie! I still remember "We brake for nobody" plate of the space ship 🤣
I did it the wrong way I know :-)
15:30 - Not just that. The IPC of your AMD is dramaticly higher - has less cores. So it will "feel" faster (cause it works though less at a time, but does it faster) even if they had the same ammount of total Calculative Capacity
My Lenovo AMD Tiny,, was also very close to 10x the prices :-)
@@MyPlayHouse Letting it work for a bit should easily pay for itself though :)
That dude does not know what I'm asking :) LMAO that made me laugh so hard cheers man!
:-) Yes this happen from time to time,, I search for something I would like to know,, and my own videos pop up.... useless :-)
WOWOW Thank excellent great info for my "Ordeal By Fire" - im in thailand and I paid 66 pounds for one and its got ProxMox in it (no login data) and what maybe a small IDE drive under the raid controller I'll examine the raid controller to see if it has the 2TB limitations and examine the MMI to see if I need a key, just ordered another whole one for spares and maybe the second CPU/RAM shall cannibalise out, as I only need one test server, I thought well what the heck I'll buy one instead of making a NAS out of fartberry pies or wasting money on a NAS which I did many time before elsewhere and hated it. SO grateful for your video - our power supplies here are cheaper than anything and noise doesnt worry me as I have an RF test bunker where it is going to live at the end of my fibre under the garden! (yes I put my own 63mm MDPE utility pipes in everywhere as I built my own house!! Great "ab initio help" for me clip... PS I don't care how old it is, I am 71, so I've seen it all since 1979 and making computers the size of twenty 2 U racks work hahaha!! Anyway, my second (and final ) marriage is 13 years old so as the wedding bells chimed (or the monks chanted in my case) this was getting made 🙂!!!!! tak skal du have!
Hi EBAY STARS
Thank You very much! glad you liked the video :-)
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Besides the hard drive capacity issue would it be worth to plant a Chia farm on it
I think you would be better off with a server that uses less power,, as a Chia server would be on 24/7
on my Dell server thats from 2013 i think i replaced the blanks with empty drive caddies as when i would take the server outside of my house to dust it out the fillers was a pain to get out and plus when they was in place they didnt look right either
The trays is better than nothing,, but they let a bit to much air through.
@@MyPlayHouse i know the risks but i know airflow is also different in a 5U chasis but from what ive seen the drives in the system now seem to stay happy
Hi! I recently started in the world of servers and so far I have everything on xserve; I also really like IBM and ... I stumbled upon your channel while searching (I'm already subscribed, of course).
I have a question, maybe you can answer it, what storage do those 6 bays on SSD support?
Thank You,, the x3550 / x3650 M2 will do SSD, both SATA and SAS.
IBM is a good choice.
@@MyPlayHouse I was asking about the amount of space per drive/bay, 500Gb, 1Tb ...
yo morton wat ur opinion bout IBM x346 ? have 6 of them rn 4 works without issues but two of them seems failing MB
They are too old to be of any real use. For next to nothing you can get one newer server that can do the workload of 6 IBM x346's and save a lot of power.
But for playing around with brilliant.
I got one (IBM System x3550 M2) but my is from 2007 so its diffrent and also my have 2x 3,5" disk slots (also any version of M2 supports not SAS but SATA II or III
From what I can see the x3550 M2 was announced in 2009,,, is it not a first gen x3550 you might have. The Intel Xeon 5500 CPU series is from November 2008
@@MyPlayHouse idk but here are specs of my system:
2x Intel Xeon 5160
4x 2GB DDR2 ECC RAM
2x 3.5' SATA II disk slots
ATI Radeon ES 1000 integrated GPU
And just to be different the norwegian and swedish layout swaps the places of Æ(Ä) and Ø(Ö)
Yarh,,it is pretty stupid... is norwegian and swedish keyboards the same ?
Except for how we write Æ/Ä and Ø/Ö i think so, yes. Danish layout also has \ in a different location than NO/SE i believe?
1 thing that bugs me is that IBMs “less expensive” Line of hardware has the better diagnostic panel and the more expensive Power7 line has a cheaper stamped sheet metal diagnostic/operator panel that seems really flimsy and easier to break in my opinion
I think the little display on my x3650 M5,, it something they have copied from IBM Power..
@@MyPlayHouse most likely the Power6 line if I were to guess they made the Power7s operator panel so much more flimsy
Great video, I also have same server.
Cool, thanks,, they can be a bit loud.
Is it possible to put an X5675 or X5680 processor on this IBM System x3550 M2 server
It is possible to put the X5675 and X5679 in this IBM System x3550 M2 server. The X5680 processor uses to much power.
Be sure to firmware update before updating CPU´s.
@@MyPlayHouse Thanks for the answer! but I wanted to say that the X5675 processor has 95 watts of heat, the X5679 processor has 130 watts of heat.
What would you recommend for a newer(ish) server than this but not in the expensive range, that maybe could be sourced from your compatriate link?
That is really hard to say,, I do not know what you need it for,, and that is important. :-/
@@MyPlayHouse Just for home use to learn from a lab type system.
Got a 3250M3 for ~17€ (5000HUF) with 2x1TB 7200RPM Constellation SAS drives.
Good Prices! :-)
I got myself a x3650 M4. I am having trouble, using the remote BIOS in the IMM for setting up Disks remotely for example. I tried IE 11 as well as Edge in IE Mode. Have you gotten that to work? If so, with java or DirectX?
It helps to update the IMM to the latest and the greatest,, and IE is a good choice.
That server is, not at all cheap. The 100Pounds you pay might sound cheap. But run it for 5 years and you would wish you would have bought a more power efficient modern server.
OPS/Watt is off by miles :D
Not all servers run 24/7. We have one old Sun Server that only runs nightly to do backups. And developer servers that are used when needed to run for example 3 h long stress tests. It’s a tiny number of use cases, mostly hobby and learning of course
@@llothar68 Does the sun server run ZFS?
I did say that this was not a good 24/7 server.
I don't run any of my servers 24/7. I only use it to fck around with VMware/vCenter/Windows/Linux in lab envorionments. This also applies for my homelab's network.
@@LynxCarpathica uhm... guys...
power usage pr. instruction is not a 24/7 thing...
That stuff happens when you spend 10 hours compiling a kernel on a 20 year old machine using 500watt instead of using a brand new 12 core ryzen5 that uses 65 watts and does the job in 1 hour.... 65 watts vs. 5000 watt....
Is 550 euro for an IBM X3550 M4 with 2 Intel Xeon E5-2690 V2 3,0ghz and 256gb DDR3 memory (16x 16gb) expensive? no hdd's and nog brackets it does have a raid controller: IBM ServeRAID M5110.
I would say that that is not a unfair prices,, some really good CPU's, lots of RAM.
These are lot more common and cheap than the 2 u brother, strange as hell. I am going to buy one (m3) only for a thing, 1 you can put in gpus 2 i want to play with lenovo xclarity and i need a server that is not involved in other projects to not mess with disks and os (1x x5675 64 gb 85€ shipped to italy) and someone might want this to start homelabing
They are very cheep now.
next video idea: turn it on and install some disks and Windows Server 2008 and do things that this server was doing back in 2009
Would it not me more interesting if it would do todays tasks,, server 2022 ?
Hi hero...
Ahh I am to humble for that :-)
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Hi f1r3man1000
Welcome aboard! :-) I make new videos every Tuesday and Friday. (14.00 CET , 8 am EST) and there might be an extra off subject video or LiveStream doing the weekend.
I read and reply to as many NEW comments as I can, I do not often get to reply, reply´s (UA-cam messed that up) Keep them short,, please. And if you do not hate something, remember to Like :-)
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Still a Good Buy? Absolutely no.
I disagree,, if I did not have to,, I would get one for the prices.
@@MyPlayHouse 1. It's not possible to spec this server to be 100USD in BH with ram, PSU, empty caddies without drives, 6x8gb and no raid
CURRENT CONFIGURATION
£184.80Inc. VAT
2. HP ProLiant DL360e Gen8 1U 8x 2.5" (SFF)
CURRENT CONFIGURATION
£198.00Inc. VAT
single 2440v2, 3x8gb, B120 RAID, 4 HDD Trays, 2x PSU
Much better performance for little more. Heck you can get trays from china much cheaper (as i did)
And this is Ivy Bridge so...
Also You can get rails if you want on BH if you want.
So yes. Terrible deal for IBM
I had DL380e and for it's price i got from BargainHardware it was awesome.
mine was great single CPU with RAM and some IBM SAS drives and MMI all for 66 UK pounds equiv in THAILAND where we do this - we just-- "dont care about full gas tank prices, dont care about cellphone prices, have 1Gbps into home full duplex for 12 pounds per month and very cold beer, 35C most days, and friendly police you pay off if your pissed, and cheap food, etc etc etc. " Morton is on the ball these are great for beginners or none-to-serious apps! So nicely made too (I am a retired manufacturer) !!!
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