Lot's of AC haters here. As someone who is open to anything, this looks pretty good. As someone who has owned a turbo 4 stroke, a 600 in a light chassis is not a bad option. I think it would be foolish to believe there isn't a bigger engine plan for this along with a new gauge. Honestly, this makes sense. Get this into the hands of people who want it for what it is, a new groundbreaking chassis and when they tell their friends how well it rides, the turbo comes out and it will be a big hit.
You only need the latest and greatest when your the kinda person that pounds it , no mercy ! And constantly want more ! 500 hp ! 6 inch paddles , No Skis ! Skis are for Sissy ‘s ! It’s all in the Hips !
Watch the new snowwest podcast they rode the mtn models said they are nothing like an alpha way more predictable no washing out they were even debating on selling there turbos for this sled they loved it so much and had so much fun.
Stronger and supposedly going to be lighter than any other sled on the market. Once they throw that 860 in there next year it's game over lol. Watch snowests new podcast on the last came out last night they love it almost more than there turbos they caught themselves saying it runs pretty good for an 800....
I was routing for Arctic cat but that steel bulkhead is an absolute no go!! I ride with all newer Polaris and skidoos and that aluminum bulkhead "Is" the difference between old and new,all your Damageable items control arms spindles all peel right off with no damage to the bulkhead, unless you fall off a cliff those aluminum bulkheads are pretty much indestructible...
Welded tube spaceframe steel bulkhead is stronger and lighter than doo or poo. The poo is a brittle pos, one good hit and you have to replace the bulkhead
Yeahhh --- I'd say they got slightly dusted again. It's 'better' ...but they did not hit the mark IMO. *600cc engine (minority of interest) *dated cockpit (not even talking about the gauge) - so many angles in the plastic - meh *composite plastic ---yeahhh i see that as a problem in minus 40...for strength and cracking. (maybe not in the first year, but just out of warranty) *I have seen a few vids now, and notice lots of inside ski lift - I wonder when brands will start going back to the ol Polaris trailing arm. Be kind of funny actually... Anyway, I am glad to see Cat back in the game - is Yamaha copying this chassis too - or is that discussion for a diff video? I think Cat needs Tucker to do a rebranding (kind of like Blair Morgan did for Doo) and redevelop some things. This would be a good start to that platform - make some improvements and fine tune it - with an 850cc.
The mtn sled doesn't need fine tuning sounds like watch the new snowwest podcast on the m. Also it's an 860 next year is what a cat guy who works there told me.
The gauge is actually new on the mtn sleds and the higher end trail sleds only the same on the basic models lol. The new one is called the deluxe gauge.
to call anything about this revolutionary is nuts. there is nothing reverlotuionary about it they are catching up to the axys and gen 4 ski doo chassis 7 years late. it's clearly far more competitive than the 2012 procross they have been selling for 12 seasons but textrons done AC no favors since they took over.
No no 2018 they changed alot it was a new sled then the next year they changed to the alpha new skis handle bars new clutches. Also skidoo has the same skid since 2013 the same frame since 2003 the same engine since 2016 Polaris has the same chassis with tweaks since before 2013... the axys was the year before with "tweaks" the matryx is the axys with "tweaks". This isn't catching up this is a total redesign nothing on this sled is the same skidoo and Polaris have been using the same frame since forever. Same skids same front ends Only adding a gay gauge and changing plastics lmfao oh and maybe a seat and a chopped up tunnel. Also cutting weight to make them buckle even easier... any new polaris or doo has had way less changed to it than 2017-2018 AC look it tf up 6 straight pages of changes to AC in 2018 while the matryx only had like 2 its the same sled just lighter for poo the same shit just looks prettier fancier and a tiny bit of practical for the narrowing of the plastics and tunnel nothing else changed. Why would I want Bluetooth and touchscreen when the big tech company's can hardly even get brand new phones to work half the time...when it's dry let alone wet hot and sloppy give me something that works something I can ride. This is a new sled unlike any other branded sled on the market this is built from the ground up not built from the same frame same motor same front and back end. Just go watch snowests new podcast that came out last night they were trying to sell there turbos for the mtn 600 they all wanted to buy one and these were big bulky heavy guys who ride other brands...
Skidoo had same chassis from 2008 - 2016, with a refresh like cat did in-between. I would say they are a couple years late on new chassis, but maybe that was for the best
@@carsonwade7091 well then... somebody's a bitter arctic crap fanboy! Haha, poo and doo don't need to mess with perfection. The sleds are so damn good why would they go and totally redesign a platform that works so damn good and piss of all their customers? When you start with an amazing chassis, front and rear suspension to begin with, all you need to do is tweaks to hone in the perfection. The only great thing cats done in the last 10+ yrs is the turbo Thundercat. And don't even dare mention the rail snapping "revolutionary" alpha mountain sleds that couldn't hold a side hill to save your life! The glory days of cats will never return unfortunately. They just don't have a market anymore.
@@romper4444 despite a dozen re-designs, Doo has the worst front suspension in the industry, and has since poo went away from trailing arms. Its nervous and completly unpredictable when ridden hard. There is no way to predict when its going to turn, or go straight into the woods, absolutely no consistency. Even the latest revision of poos front end hasn't caught up to cats tall spindle design that started in '08. Let alone after cat upgraded it in '12, and '18 (it is better than doo though)
Nowhere close to the "other sleds" lmao it's a total redesign the frame is new unlike any other brand no company has done that they use the same old chassis just tweaks to the plastics and cut some off the tunnel and oh add a touchscreen gauge you cant use when it gets wet. Polaris has had there 850 out since 2019 now and skidoo since 2016 skidoo uses the same tmotion skid since 2013 the ayxs chassis is the matryx with "tweaks" look it up and the axys is used from previous years with "tweaks" same with skidoo nothing on those sleds are new besides the aesthetics pretty much a little narrower plastics same skids same front ends same steering same motors just slapped existing turbos and big bores on there already unreliable motors. "New tech" my ass It's all old tech with some beauty work to sell them besides a touchscreen. This is the only thing that's actually new and then next year with there new 860. Just go watch the new snowwest podcast these bulky huge guys rode the m and they were all thinking about getting one over other brands... these guys rode turboed sleds before even have them quoted with more hp next year it will be the best overall mtn sled by far sounds like. Just watch it lmao. You can't say shit about not revolutionary when you haven't ridden one. Watch the guys who aren't brand loyal talk about it after riding it.
Seems like it might be something compatible with Polaris, but a complete fail on the 600 only release. It's lost my attention and any of my buddys that wanna dump their Polaris Matryx sleds. I can see releasing it with old gauge fine. But no 800 or 850, they are not wowing the masses, they only grabbed the attention of the few people who still are die hard CAT guys. Whoever is in charge of marketing release should step down, they lost a big crowd of people with a 600 only
Mtn models and higher end trail sleds have the new deluxe gauge also its an 860 next year some cat guy who works there told me. Cats the only brand to total redesign like this in decades doo and poo have the same chassis with "tweaks" same skids on skidoo since 2013 same axys just new plastics and a cheaper tunnel oh and a guage you cant use on both of them when they get wet which it will this is not that it's a new frame all together nothing old new drive shaft new tunnels nothing is the same besides the handle bars and skis it's an updated 600 motor not the same as old. And the gauge on the none deluxe models I guess. Different seat totally new plastics. This is not the same sled at all just go watch snowwests new podcast on it they own turboed sleds and they were debating on selling them for this 600.... once they rode it.
@MikeinCt I'm not though look it up they have parts lists of everything you have to search past the "new" chassis fluff they call it "new" but 90% of it is looks some aerodynamics and a little lighter. I have videos screenshots I've made a whole file to show these poo and doo mouth breathers just how much they have actually changed over the years and it's not alot. A sleds capability can change drastically if you make is skinnier and a little lighter. Im right on all the engine years skid years and frame years literally they use the word "tweaked" and thry call it a new chassis bc they shortened the width making it even harder to work on and melt the panels easier and by a couple inches lmao and cut the tunnel down and plastics same frame design. The new cat is not the same frame at all. It will not have the same motors in it. Not handle the same. Just go watch snowests new podcast on the m models there about ready to sell there turbos to buy this sled that's how much more fun they had on it than the current 800. Guy at cat told me it's an 860 next year to 💀 and they had the 20lb battery in it and stock can to lmao. These were big buff guys on this 600 and they said they could get anywhere an 800 class engine could with the extra weight.
Sure, this particular video may not be a comparison feature. In regards to your comments about this not being a review or riding opinion, it is apparent that you have not spent any time with Jeff Fischer 1-1 to where you could support this claim. 😀
@@SledHead247 Nope I have not spent time with him. What I can say is this, it's difficult to get an honest riding opinion when the products are given to talking heads. I'm in the market for a new sled, the new Cats look exciting but I want an honest opinion that's constructive. A real review of what a buyer can expect ESPECIALLY in comparison to the competition. When I watch these vids, the content comes across as sponsored or sometimes brief. Maybe they've only riden it for half a day with 10 other media folks traveling about 20 mph all in file. That's what I was getting at.
@@AASparkChaser go look at what ski doo and Polaris are putting on their sleds. LCD 7+” screen Bluetooth wireless connection to your phone. GPS guided systems…AC installed a calculator screen…crap.
@ML and none of there shit works you can't use thar touchscreen bullshit once it's wet which it will get wet also AC has the deluxe the new gauges for mtn models and higher end trail models plus this one he's riding is probably a prototype without the new gauge yet so calm down lmao
Lol it took the other brands years to get the turbos like 3-5 years of work before production and same about of time for there "new plastics design" on the matryx and gen 5 nothing takes 1-2 years cats only been owned by tex since 2017 this platforms been in the works since 2018 so one year of ownership and they started this project and bigger motors. Not bad plus cats been sued by skidoo which they just got over which lost them some time. Doo and poo have been owned by the same company and had way more time no changes like cat had to go through and yet the other brands have the same chassis same 12 year old skids with changes to plastics and slapped already existing turbo and big bore kits and called them "stock"
@carsonwade7091 please tell me what cat 2 stroke had a turbo? Please tell me what skid is 12 yrs old on Maytrx or XRS? STOP IT! Stop defending a company that couldn't think past what they already developed for the past 20yrs and the new releases targeting the 55 and older crowd with a 600 only 🤦♂️ If they've been working on this since 2018 then this is a complete marketing Fail cause they grabbed nobody's attention to trade in the other brands they own and to run out and buy this thing. Only diehard CAT people will buy this first yr turd or maybe someone buying a 600 for wife or kid. Sadly a fail before sales even opened
@MikeinCt think you highly underestimate things lmao the average rider is 53 years old first of all second there's alot of kids that have been riding since cat developed the 200 and the blast which by the way cat makes for skidoo and yamaha. Third cat made more changes on the 2018 acender chassis than Polaris did on there pos matryx which is the same ayxs that came out in 2013 just "tweaks" look it tf up 6 straight pages of completely new changes in 2018 while the matryx only had 2 a cut down tunnel a seat a gay gauge you cant use when it gets wet on doo or poo and plastic changes. Anyone can take an existing pos big bore kit and turbo and slap it on a sled and call it "stock" skidoo is using the same skid they came out with 20 years ago. Doo sued arctic cat a few years ago which is why they didn't release they also couldnt sell previous sleds in Canada. Lately I've seen all these companies slap shit in sleds and just throw it out the door without parts months late except for cat without testing there shit very long atleast cat wants to test there shit they arent a charity like polaris they dont want every other person coming in every other year for a new motor a new track because it falls apart new... Polaris and doo can't make a decent track to save there lives 2 days ago I saw 2 brand new Polaris tracks split and completely come off the skid doing nothing!!! My 2010 cat has a better track than a brand new polaris..Polaris engines came out in 2019 only a year after the ctec and skidoos been blowing up there same engine since 2016... both brands arent changing there time bomb anytime soon. I've seen mutiple doos and poos being towed out for blown motors under 500 miles... it's not a turd when you have never ridden one I hate people like you all you can do is talk shit but have no evidence to back anything up at all. You have probably never ridden a cat before because a new cat is 100 times any sled made in 2013-2017. They are not the same sled at all nowhere close. Go look at snow west's new podcast they just rode it couple days ago it came out last night. These are all big buff heavy guys and they were debating selling there 850 turbos to get one. They said they could get anywhere an 800 class engine could and it was fun.They said it will be the best handling snowmachine on the market with more horsepower next year but it was so fun with the smaller motor. You have no clue how hard it is to make a completely new sled Polaris and doo haven't done that at all Polaris since 2013 with thr axys first on trail sleds which was just a tweaked version of the previous years... skidoos using the same exact shit skid for 20 years theres mutiple youtube videos about it cats gone through a ownership change no other company did that either and only in 2017 it took them one year to change so much in 2018 like I said look it up there's way more things changed on cat recently then the year after the alpha new handle bars skis new tracks. No company has made a new sled in decades all the same frame with "tweaks" this is a new sled they used no spare parts. The frame is not the same all the other ones have the same frame same layout just narrower side panels and tunnels than the years before... oh and a touchscreen gauge you cant use in snow when it gets wet... anyways the steering is all new the frame is a total redesign from the ground up the drive train driveshaft the tunnel is actually new not a cut down tunnel off previous years like poo. New running boards new seats. They have the easiest hood to take off now. You can actually reach let alone see the spark plugs unlike other brands. The only thing on this sled that's the same is the skis possibly and the handle bars. The A arms are different the shocks are different unlike other brands. Just watch the podcast from snowwest when these huge guys are telling you they are going to order this 600 over another sled and they ride different brands... also have them quoted saying it will be the best mountain sled on the market next year with more hp. It will be the biggest stock motor without a big bore kit next year too so with this chassis these guys loved so much with the biggest 2 stroke tf do you think Polaris and doo will have to build a new sled completely not using there same old frames to get the same effect as this sled sounds like. That will take atleast 5 years minimum. And also they don't even have the parts to make the ones they have now.... all the other brands did was focus on cutting cost and raising the price of there new sleds cheaper lighter not as strong plastics and cheaper thinner aluminum tunnels also raising the price 10 grand for a turbo kit that's been on the market 5 years before.. Im not defending anyone I'm stating facts. No other company has done a complete redesign in 10+ years let alone a new motor in atleast 5 for poo and 7 years for doo. Skidoos been using the same tmotion skid since 2013.. even on the gen 4s. All you people talk about is "new tech" what's new on them oh I forgot a (touchscreen gauge) lmao the brands your defending use the same old ass tech just make it look pretty and add a hippy gauge that's impossible to use once wet so they can sell the same old chassis. Oh yeah and add a turbo to an already unreliable engine.. we covered that right I've seen and helped people tow there brand new sleds out for blown motors but hey warranty right just need that Warrenty every year for a Polaris track every other year for the engines on both brands maybe in-between it being in the shop you can get a tan because your down for the winter every other year. Hey just buy a new sled every year like most people do because the previous year has so many problems and they want the new shiny changed plastics and gauge you cant use. Those 850s have been blowing up since they came out. I have 5 new cats with thousands of miles between them no cracks in the stock clutches and the motors are running strong. I have not experienced any of the problems some people say on any of my sleds. I wouldn't talk tho is all I'm saying people talk so much shit before you actually ride one second this will be the newest lightest and biggest stock 2 stroke hp sled on the market next year sounds like from the only people who have actually rode it!!! Not me saying it and without a turbo which most retards don't even know how to ride I know mutiple people who own them it's just like owning an iPhone it's a status they don't even know how to ride them when they do they say they are hard to predict out of control and don't ride very well. Maybe in higher elv they would ride better and only in deep snow but with a trash track idk. Everyone I know personally does not like riding them and is trying to sell them has been for awhile.. Feel like a broken record just ride one you can't call something a pos when you have seen a couple photos of it... a real mtn rider can get anywhere a 800+ can go with a 600 sled even the older ones but especially now. If you actually know how to ride instead of hp your way out of things which isn't that fun tbh way more fun playing up the hill then shooting straight up... your not a very good rider if you mostly rely on a turbo to pull your ass out instead of knowing proper technique to actually ride a sled not let the sled ride you up the hill.
@MikeinCt no brand has developed anything new just tweaks and anyone can slap an existing turbo or big bore kit on a 5 and 7 year old motor like doo and poo did... this is an actual new sled not tweaks its a new frame all together.
The red and black riot looks amazing! Well done Cat, can't wait to get to ride one!
Lot's of AC haters here. As someone who is open to anything, this looks pretty good. As someone who has owned a turbo 4 stroke, a 600 in a light chassis is not a bad option. I think it would be foolish to believe there isn't a bigger engine plan for this along with a new gauge. Honestly, this makes sense. Get this into the hands of people who want it for what it is, a new groundbreaking chassis and when they tell their friends how well it rides, the turbo comes out and it will be a big hit.
They have new gauges only on the mtn sleds and the high end trail sleds. They have an 860 for next year's release.
Imagine having a snowmobile maker use the same gauges for almost 10 years now. 😂
Love the sled..but should have been a new gauge from the get go
That bumper is so huge and obnoxious and I love it!
It seems to offer a lot more protection than the older one they offered..I do like it too!
You can’t tell it has a wink on the headlight !?! Cmon - lights are so bright now it just looks like bright ass light !
They've always had the heated goggle storage area.
Yes, I had it on my 2011 M6.
You only need the latest and greatest when your the kinda person that pounds it , no mercy ! And constantly want more ! 500 hp ! 6 inch paddles , No Skis ! Skis are for Sissy ‘s ! It’s all in the Hips !
It's a dual rail, hopefully that's a mountain option as well
alpha boggie is better at mountain riding
No the mountain models are alpha.
Watch the new snowwest podcast they rode the mtn models said they are nothing like an alpha way more predictable no washing out they were even debating on selling there turbos for this sled they loved it so much and had so much fun.
@@carsonwade7091 they deleted it before i had time to watch it ☹️
@@ericlessard5021 they reloaded a shorter version
A more modern dash with built in gps would be nice?
It has been available for years! The NS1 gauge system from Next Stage Gauges. Far better than the 7S display on Polaris machines.
They have them on the deluxe models like all the mtn sleds and the higher end trail sleds
Did they engineer the drivetrain properly this time?
Motor?
Did he say that the bulkhead is one piece steel all welded?
Stronger and supposedly going to be lighter than any other sled on the market. Once they throw that 860 in there next year it's game over lol. Watch snowests new podcast on the last came out last night they love it almost more than there turbos they caught themselves saying it runs pretty good for an 800....
@@carsonwade7091 800? Turbo?
@eric lessard no guy that works at cat told me it's actually going to be an 860 next year
Next year as in the 2025 sleds?
Any idea on fuel mileage?
I was routing for Arctic cat but that steel bulkhead is an absolute no go!! I ride with all newer Polaris and skidoos and that aluminum bulkhead "Is" the difference between old and new,all your Damageable items control arms spindles all peel right off with no damage to the bulkhead, unless you fall off a cliff those aluminum bulkheads are pretty much indestructible...
Lmao indestructible you say I've seen cats hit rocks and doos hit rocks only thing riding out after is a cat...
Welded tube spaceframe steel bulkhead is stronger and lighter than doo or poo. The poo is a brittle pos, one good hit and you have to replace the bulkhead
I have three Arctic Cats and a proud owner of a turbo and I'm going to be a prick right now and saying this modernize the dash
They build the 600 or did Yamaha?
Thats a ctec2. Cat built
Have they figured out what's up with Yamaha yet? Are they gonna look like these? Blue and white would look nice! 👌
No mention of the belt drive?
Plenty of other videos and pics of it, if u haven't seen it yet then I suggest u start searching the model and doing research
@@kwmiked this is this channels first review of the sled, he mentions the pull cord handle yet fails to mention the belt drive 😆
Yeahhh --- I'd say they got slightly dusted again. It's 'better' ...but they did not hit the mark IMO.
*600cc engine (minority of interest)
*dated cockpit (not even talking about the gauge) - so many angles in the plastic - meh
*composite plastic ---yeahhh i see that as a problem in minus 40...for strength and cracking. (maybe not in the first year, but just out of warranty)
*I have seen a few vids now, and notice lots of inside ski lift - I wonder when brands will start going back to the ol Polaris trailing arm. Be kind of funny actually...
Anyway, I am glad to see Cat back in the game - is Yamaha copying this chassis too - or is that discussion for a diff video? I think Cat needs Tucker to do a rebranding (kind of like Blair Morgan did for Doo) and redevelop some things. This would be a good start to that platform - make some improvements and fine tune it - with an 850cc.
The mtn sled doesn't need fine tuning sounds like watch the new snowwest podcast on the m. Also it's an 860 next year is what a cat guy who works there told me.
@@carsonwade7091 Ya that's a great engine choice -- I think the bigger market is the bigger CC's. Cool man...Cheers
Can't even buy one. Not available
Steel bulkhead? That seems like old tech.
Only thing that will hold up on the hill after hitting rocks lmao
tube steel space frame, lighter and stronger than the aluminum tubs everyone has been using for 40 years
@@ACatKrom not sure if that is totally true. For example, I think even AC used alum subframes back in like 2005, etc.
@@smplyizzy 05 ac sleds had an aluminum tub for a bulk head, fwiw I'm not saying tube.
Cat folks will buy it for their wives / girlfriends but not for themselves till a bigger motor comes init., that bumper is horrible
Nice ride but the outdated dashboard
Along with the dated 600 for the 65 and older crowd
@@kwmiked It's actually a brand new 600 in the Catalyst.
Outdated? The NS1 gauge from Next Stage Gauges has been out for years and is far better than the 7S display on Polaris machines.
The gauge is actually new on the mtn sleds and the higher end trail sleds only the same on the basic models lol. The new one is called the deluxe gauge.
@@kwmiked Some of us are over 65. I would never buy an 800 again.
to call anything about this revolutionary is nuts. there is nothing reverlotuionary about it they are catching up to the axys and gen 4 ski doo chassis 7 years late. it's clearly far more competitive than the 2012 procross they have been selling for 12 seasons but textrons done AC no favors since they took over.
No no 2018 they changed alot it was a new sled then the next year they changed to the alpha new skis handle bars new clutches. Also skidoo has the same skid since 2013 the same frame since 2003 the same engine since 2016 Polaris has the same chassis with tweaks since before 2013... the axys was the year before with "tweaks" the matryx is the axys with "tweaks". This isn't catching up this is a total redesign nothing on this sled is the same skidoo and Polaris have been using the same frame since forever. Same skids same front ends Only adding a gay gauge and changing plastics lmfao oh and maybe a seat and a chopped up tunnel. Also cutting weight to make them buckle even easier... any new polaris or doo has had way less changed to it than 2017-2018 AC look it tf up 6 straight pages of changes to AC in 2018 while the matryx only had like 2 its the same sled just lighter for poo the same shit just looks prettier fancier and a tiny bit of practical for the narrowing of the plastics and tunnel nothing else changed. Why would I want Bluetooth and touchscreen when the big tech company's can hardly even get brand new phones to work half the time...when it's dry let alone wet hot and sloppy give me something that works something I can ride. This is a new sled unlike any other branded sled on the market this is built from the ground up not built from the same frame same motor same front and back end. Just go watch snowests new podcast that came out last night they were trying to sell there turbos for the mtn 600 they all wanted to buy one and these were big bulky heavy guys who ride other brands...
Skidoo had same chassis from 2008 - 2016, with a refresh like cat did in-between. I would say they are a couple years late on new chassis, but maybe that was for the best
@@carsonwade7091 well then... somebody's a bitter arctic crap fanboy! Haha, poo and doo don't need to mess with perfection. The sleds are so damn good why would they go and totally redesign a platform that works so damn good and piss of all their customers? When you start with an amazing chassis, front and rear suspension to begin with, all you need to do is tweaks to hone in the perfection. The only great thing cats done in the last 10+ yrs is the turbo Thundercat. And don't even dare mention the rail snapping "revolutionary" alpha mountain sleds that couldn't hold a side hill to save your life! The glory days of cats will never return unfortunately. They just don't have a market anymore.
@@carsonwade7091 you need an education
@@romper4444 despite a dozen re-designs, Doo has the worst front suspension in the industry, and has since poo went away from trailing arms. Its nervous and completly unpredictable when ridden hard. There is no way to predict when its going to turn, or go straight into the woods, absolutely no consistency.
Even the latest revision of poos front end hasn't caught up to cats tall spindle design that started in '08. Let alone after cat upgraded it in '12, and '18 (it is better than doo though)
How hard is it to put a big screen with GPS on it for fuck sakes
90% of the Polaris and Skidoo sleds sold don't have it because they're so damn expensive
Nice sled but it’s finally up 2 par with the other sleds but definitely not revolutionary
Nowhere close to the "other sleds" lmao it's a total redesign the frame is new unlike any other brand no company has done that they use the same old chassis just tweaks to the plastics and cut some off the tunnel and oh add a touchscreen gauge you cant use when it gets wet. Polaris has had there 850 out since 2019 now and skidoo since 2016 skidoo uses the same tmotion skid since 2013 the ayxs chassis is the matryx with "tweaks" look it up and the axys is used from previous years with "tweaks" same with skidoo nothing on those sleds are new besides the aesthetics pretty much a little narrower plastics same skids same front ends same steering same motors just slapped existing turbos and big bores on there already unreliable motors. "New tech" my ass It's all old tech with some beauty work to sell them besides a touchscreen. This is the only thing that's actually new and then next year with there new 860. Just go watch the new snowwest podcast these bulky huge guys rode the m and they were all thinking about getting one over other brands... these guys rode turboed sleds before even have them quoted with more hp next year it will be the best overall mtn sled by far sounds like. Just watch it lmao. You can't say shit about not revolutionary when you haven't ridden one. Watch the guys who aren't brand loyal talk about it after riding it.
Do they make that sled in a men’s as well?
Seems like it might be something compatible with Polaris, but a complete fail on the 600 only release. It's lost my attention and any of my buddys that wanna dump their Polaris Matryx sleds. I can see releasing it with old gauge fine. But no 800 or 850, they are not wowing the masses, they only grabbed the attention of the few people who still are die hard CAT guys. Whoever is in charge of marketing release should step down, they lost a big crowd of people with a 600 only
Who the hell still uses a heated plug on a sled? Haven't needed one since 1998 or 99
Mtn models and higher end trail sleds have the new deluxe gauge also its an 860 next year some cat guy who works there told me. Cats the only brand to total redesign like this in decades doo and poo have the same chassis with "tweaks" same skids on skidoo since 2013 same axys just new plastics and a cheaper tunnel oh and a guage you cant use on both of them when they get wet which it will this is not that it's a new frame all together nothing old new drive shaft new tunnels nothing is the same besides the handle bars and skis it's an updated 600 motor not the same as old. And the gauge on the none deluxe models I guess. Different seat totally new plastics. This is not the same sled at all just go watch snowwests new podcast on it they own turboed sleds and they were debating on selling them for this 600.... once they rode it.
@carsonwade7091 u are wrong on just about everything u said, shows what u know about doo or poo
@MikeinCt I'm not though look it up they have parts lists of everything you have to search past the "new" chassis fluff they call it "new" but 90% of it is looks some aerodynamics and a little lighter. I have videos screenshots I've made a whole file to show these poo and doo mouth breathers just how much they have actually changed over the years and it's not alot. A sleds capability can change drastically if you make is skinnier and a little lighter. Im right on all the engine years skid years and frame years literally they use the word "tweaked" and thry call it a new chassis bc they shortened the width making it even harder to work on and melt the panels easier and by a couple inches lmao and cut the tunnel down and plastics same frame design. The new cat is not the same frame at all. It will not have the same motors in it. Not handle the same. Just go watch snowests new podcast on the m models there about ready to sell there turbos to buy this sled that's how much more fun they had on it than the current 800. Guy at cat told me it's an 860 next year to 💀 and they had the 20lb battery in it and stock can to lmao. These were big buff guys on this 600 and they said they could get anywhere an 800 class engine could with the extra weight.
Same ole gauge
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Yeah these are just advertisements. They aren't reviews, comparisons or honest riding opinions.
Sure, this particular video may not be a comparison feature. In regards to your comments about this not being a review or riding opinion, it is apparent that you have not spent any time with Jeff Fischer 1-1 to where you could support this claim. 😀
@@SledHead247 Nope I have not spent time with him. What I can say is this, it's difficult to get an honest riding opinion when the products are given to talking heads. I'm in the market for a new sled, the new Cats look exciting but I want an honest opinion that's constructive. A real review of what a buyer can expect ESPECIALLY in comparison to the competition. When I watch these vids, the content comes across as sponsored or sometimes brief. Maybe they've only riden it for half a day with 10 other media folks traveling about 20 mph all in file. That's what I was getting at.
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So the step up in the headlight well blind all coming at them in the night?
Same gauge? Lame AC
He clearly says the dash looks bigger so a new gauge set up is likely. This isn't the final product
The NS1 gauge from Next Stage Gauges has been out for years. Pull your head out of the sand!
@@AASparkChaser go look at what ski doo and Polaris are putting on their sleds. LCD 7+” screen Bluetooth wireless connection to your phone. GPS guided systems…AC installed a calculator screen…crap.
It's a new gauge only on the mtn models and the higher end trail models its called the deluxe gauge
@ML and none of there shit works you can't use thar touchscreen bullshit once it's wet which it will get wet also AC has the deluxe the new gauges for mtn models and higher end trail models plus this one he's riding is probably a prototype without the new gauge yet so calm down lmao
First ride, doesn’t ride.
SO IT WILL TAKE 1-2 YEARS FOR THE OTHERS TO CATCH UP, AND 10 MORE AFTER CAT TO GET BACK IN IT AGAIN
Lol it took the other brands years to get the turbos like 3-5 years of work before production and same about of time for there "new plastics design" on the matryx and gen 5 nothing takes 1-2 years cats only been owned by tex since 2017 this platforms been in the works since 2018 so one year of ownership and they started this project and bigger motors. Not bad plus cats been sued by skidoo which they just got over which lost them some time. Doo and poo have been owned by the same company and had way more time no changes like cat had to go through and yet the other brands have the same chassis same 12 year old skids with changes to plastics and slapped already existing turbo and big bore kits and called them "stock"
@carsonwade7091 please tell me what cat 2 stroke had a turbo? Please tell me what skid is 12 yrs old on Maytrx or XRS? STOP IT! Stop defending a company that couldn't think past what they already developed for the past 20yrs and the new releases targeting the 55 and older crowd with a 600 only 🤦♂️ If they've been working on this since 2018 then this is a complete marketing Fail cause they grabbed nobody's attention to trade in the other brands they own and to run out and buy this thing. Only diehard CAT people will buy this first yr turd or maybe someone buying a 600 for wife or kid. Sadly a fail before sales even opened
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@MikeinCt think you highly underestimate things lmao the average rider is 53 years old first of all second there's alot of kids that have been riding since cat developed the 200 and the blast which by the way cat makes for skidoo and yamaha. Third cat made more changes on the 2018 acender chassis than Polaris did on there pos matryx which is the same ayxs that came out in 2013 just "tweaks" look it tf up 6 straight pages of completely new changes in 2018 while the matryx only had 2 a cut down tunnel a seat a gay gauge you cant use when it gets wet on doo or poo and plastic changes. Anyone can take an existing pos big bore kit and turbo and slap it on a sled and call it "stock" skidoo is using the same skid they came out with 20 years ago. Doo sued arctic cat a few years ago which is why they didn't release they also couldnt sell previous sleds in Canada. Lately I've seen all these companies slap shit in sleds and just throw it out the door without parts months late except for cat without testing there shit very long atleast cat wants to test there shit they arent a charity like polaris they dont want every other person coming in every other year for a new motor a new track because it falls apart new... Polaris and doo can't make a decent track to save there lives 2 days ago I saw 2 brand new Polaris tracks split and completely come off the skid doing nothing!!! My 2010 cat has a better track than a brand new polaris..Polaris engines came out in 2019 only a year after the ctec and skidoos been blowing up there same engine since 2016... both brands arent changing there time bomb anytime soon. I've seen mutiple doos and poos being towed out for blown motors under 500 miles... it's not a turd when you have never ridden one I hate people like you all you can do is talk shit but have no evidence to back anything up at all. You have probably never ridden a cat before because a new cat is 100 times any sled made in 2013-2017. They are not the same sled at all nowhere close. Go look at snow west's new podcast they just rode it couple days ago it came out last night. These are all big buff heavy guys and they were debating selling there 850 turbos to get one. They said they could get anywhere an 800 class engine could and it was fun.They said it will be the best handling snowmachine on the market with more horsepower next year but it was so fun with the smaller motor. You have no clue how hard it is to make a completely new sled Polaris and doo haven't done that at all Polaris since 2013 with thr axys first on trail sleds which was just a tweaked version of the previous years... skidoos using the same exact shit skid for 20 years theres mutiple youtube videos about it cats gone through a ownership change no other company did that either and only in 2017 it took them one year to change so much in 2018 like I said look it up there's way more things changed on cat recently then the year after the alpha new handle bars skis new tracks. No company has made a new sled in decades all the same frame with "tweaks" this is a new sled they used no spare parts. The frame is not the same all the other ones have the same frame same layout just narrower side panels and tunnels than the years before... oh and a touchscreen gauge you cant use in snow when it gets wet... anyways the steering is all new the frame is a total redesign from the ground up the drive train driveshaft the tunnel is actually new not a cut down tunnel off previous years like poo. New running boards new seats. They have the easiest hood to take off now. You can actually reach let alone see the spark plugs unlike other brands. The only thing on this sled that's the same is the skis possibly and the handle bars. The A arms are different the shocks are different unlike other brands. Just watch the podcast from snowwest when these huge guys are telling you they are going to order this 600 over another sled and they ride different brands... also have them quoted saying it will be the best mountain sled on the market next year with more hp. It will be the biggest stock motor without a big bore kit next year too so with this chassis these guys loved so much with the biggest 2 stroke tf do you think Polaris and doo will have to build a new sled completely not using there same old frames to get the same effect as this sled sounds like. That will take atleast 5 years minimum. And also they don't even have the parts to make the ones they have now.... all the other brands did was focus on cutting cost and raising the price of there new sleds cheaper lighter not as strong plastics and cheaper thinner aluminum tunnels also raising the price 10 grand for a turbo kit that's been on the market 5 years before.. Im not defending anyone I'm stating facts. No other company has done a complete redesign in 10+ years let alone a new motor in atleast 5 for poo and 7 years for doo. Skidoos been using the same tmotion skid since 2013.. even on the gen 4s. All you people talk about is "new tech" what's new on them oh I forgot a (touchscreen gauge) lmao the brands your defending use the same old ass tech just make it look pretty and add a hippy gauge that's impossible to use once wet so they can sell the same old chassis. Oh yeah and add a turbo to an already unreliable engine.. we covered that right I've seen and helped people tow there brand new sleds out for blown motors but hey warranty right just need that Warrenty every year for a Polaris track every other year for the engines on both brands maybe in-between it being in the shop you can get a tan because your down for the winter every other year. Hey just buy a new sled every year like most people do because the previous year has so many problems and they want the new shiny changed plastics and gauge you cant use. Those 850s have been blowing up since they came out. I have 5 new cats with thousands of miles between them no cracks in the stock clutches and the motors are running strong. I have not experienced any of the problems some people say on any of my sleds. I wouldn't talk tho is all I'm saying people talk so much shit before you actually ride one second this will be the newest lightest and biggest stock 2 stroke hp sled on the market next year sounds like from the only people who have actually rode it!!! Not me saying it and without a turbo which most retards don't even know how to ride I know mutiple people who own them it's just like owning an iPhone it's a status they don't even know how to ride them when they do they say they are hard to predict out of control and don't ride very well. Maybe in higher elv they would ride better and only in deep snow but with a trash track idk. Everyone I know personally does not like riding them and is trying to sell them has been for awhile.. Feel like a broken record just ride one you can't call something a pos when you have seen a couple photos of it... a real mtn rider can get anywhere a 800+ can go with a 600 sled even the older ones but especially now. If you actually know how to ride instead of hp your way out of things which isn't that fun tbh way more fun playing up the hill then shooting straight up... your not a very good rider if you mostly rely on a turbo to pull your ass out instead of knowing proper technique to actually ride a sled not let the sled ride you up the hill.
@MikeinCt no brand has developed anything new just tweaks and anyone can slap an existing turbo or big bore kit on a 5 and 7 year old motor like doo and poo did... this is an actual new sled not tweaks its a new frame all together.
only 600cc 🤣 id say they really dropped the ball.
Horrible windshield. Like c'mon
Polaris is my favorite but I would buy a new artic cat