Again, the rioters in harehills weren't largely Roma, that's just how it started. To claim it's racist to point out largely Muslim rioters because the initial cause wasn't Islamist is pure ignorance. Ella is way off the mark by parroting mainstream media talking points on this one. When the media talks about "BAME" people trying to protect things, that's because there's a Sikh population there too. The problem absolutely is integration but some are harder to integrate than others due to having no such intention.
I came here to write the same thing. I don't know why they bother having her on, she's clueless and just yaps on and on. She also said "the usual types" pointed out most rioters were Muslims but that was racist then says a failure of multiculturalism is that everyone being told they are racist if they step out of line.
@FatNorthernBigot It would be funny but the next day the Leeds police were being paid to go on a march to support rainbows 🌈. They stood their ground on that later occasion.
And then arrested all the key players the next day. If the police had gone in fighting on that night the riots would have gone on for three mights. As it was they all rioted til tired, wound themselves down so as probably starting to wonder what they'd done by the next morning . Police then arrested the ppl and no one tried to stop them arresting everyone. If they'd taken them on that night it would have escalated and any attempts to arrest ppl would have created more problems.
Thanks Ella, when I saw parts of our country completely lawless and left to mob rule, my first concern was people pointing out the ethnicity of the mob! So grateful you are there to swing into action with your vast interlect and highly turned moral compass to really focus on the important issue of identity politics while our cities burn around us! Good job brains!
Still remember talking to my indian friend warning that the riots would keep escalating, and govt would let it happen because thats exactly how the takeovers in india started....
its all of Leeds though the city has changed my family had to close our business as there were shootings and breakins had been a shop there for nearly 50 yrs destroyed by new comers
Please note that the videos of this particular riot seemed to show mainly people from the Indian subcontinent in particular Pakistan. Any comments? Is it maybe illegal to state the obvious
Very different reactions from the media concerning the Harehills and Southport riots. The EDL have been blamed for Southport, but as the media couldn’t blame the far-right for Harehills (and they sure as shit weren’t going to blame the Muslims and Romanians) that has been reported as “community tensions”….
Ella - why do you pair "multiculturalism" with "everyone will get along?" The very concept of multiculturalism posits separate and distinct cultures with no expectation of compromise on the part of the incoming culture and the assumption that any friction with the host culture is evidence of intolerance.
Part of the problem is that the groups also are not given semi autonomy with borders so they can run their own affairs. I am not suggesting countries give land away to migrants, I'm just pointing out that where multiculturalism once worked -UK, Switzerland, Canada and Spain- it worked because distinct ethnic groups had their own territory and their cultures were protected. There was also overlaps between the cultures (they were all Christian and European) and there were forces in place to maintain the cohesion and stability of these nations. To throw millions of people together with no social contract, no borders or shared cultural norms is absurd. There’s no form of social organization, be it in the form of a romantic relationship between two individuals or a complex network of relationships within a business, where that could ever work. We need boundaries and norms. We now live in a lawless and dysfunctional society because everyone was afraid of being called racist. Such an absurd world.
@@shelleyscloud3651Hear hear. Paul’s the kind of left winger who realises that mass immigration, such as the kind we’re seeing here, adversely affects the ‘working class’ by keeping wages low and causing a housing shortage as well as the integration problems
@@shelleyscloud3651 I’m a scouser , I’ve very working class socialist morals and I’ve a patriotic streak (not in a flag waving way , just in being proud of what as a country and people we have / can achieve . I’ve friends who are so called far left who come across to me now as very bitter and angry people . Very very brainwashed as well .
@@Robert-A-R precisely - the left didn’t just abandon the working class - they actively hate them now. You know who made Britain great, who built her on blood, sweat and tears, who never got rich off it, who never got a thanks for it? The working class! It’s their country more than anyone else’s now watch them take it back and build it again! Labour will soon be going into the dustbin along with the Tories.
@@ste2442 I’m not but I played with working class kids during summer holidays from boarding school and I fast figured out that they’re far better people than my class. And watching what’s happening and how decently they’re responding to what’s being done to them only confirms this. Truly the best of us. Makes me sick how much of this is pure class hatred. Tell me, your woke friends, crappy degrees from crappy universities? Sneer the moment they hear a regional accent? Cast out stereotypes about football fans, Spanish holidays and knuckle draggers but need smelling salts if you suggest Islam isn’t very good for women’s rights? Ludicrous hypocrisy. And you know what these fools have probably done, ultimately regardless of who ‘wins’, they killed liberalism and all the progress & tolerance that came with it! Jesus wept….
I like ella BUT she is way off here couldn't you find someone from LEEDS to explain a LEEDS problem ella is showing she didn't grow up around this therefore doesn't have the insight or local knowledge to deliver an accurate analysis
To be fair, you don't have to be from Leeds to know that if you pile in hordes of people from elsewhere, with no shared values and apparently no stake in making the place they came to better... Well what do you expect is going to happen. It is the same anywhere,
@@mr2981 well ella doesn't understand a seemingly neither do you its not hordes of people its hordes of Muslims and Gypsies nothing more nothing less! The whole social fabric has changed in leeds a city which has historically welcomes migrant opoulation having a large jewish population and a chinatown. Everyone used to get along not any longer the violence is causing people to leave and leeds always been a tough city so you know its bad!
@@mr2981 one group is the common denominator it will never work when the largest sub group are fully committed to segregation they don't come to live with us they come to live in competition and refuse to play by the rules they corrupt us!
@@mr2981 im from Bradford we have been holding the border between these people and the rest of UK for 40 yrs not much anyone can tell me about how this so called culture operates its a GANG not different than cartels in mexico or mafioso in Italy go up against them and find out!
That's cos Spiked is not a right wing publication and every so often their right wing fan boys suddenly realise this an identity problem because they've been enjoying a true left wing output rather than the fake left.
Japan point is a good one. It's like how the points-based immigration discussion around Brexit was called racist when it has been Australia's policy for years completely uncontroversially.
As a Yank who thinks the "Simulation Theory" is an amusing theory: The red-haired/Ginger gentleman named "EMBERy," had been a Fire-Fighter? I'd argue that's code-reuse! 🤣🤣🤣
Ella ignorant of the fact the Muslim counsellor stopping the riot was demonised by Spiked as an extremist. The guy does grown your own vege videos. Spiked as big a bunch of poseurs as Novara
roma act the same funny thing is they usual don't mix and have been some fighting with muslims usual linked to crime but here they seem to have accepted the muslims help those muslims will come from as far as manchester no doubt!
More ‘balanced’ bollox.
You NEVER address the super-prior issue: WE WERE NEVER ASKED!
Because if we'd been asked we would have said "no thanks" and we can't have that
Again, the rioters in harehills weren't largely Roma, that's just how it started.
To claim it's racist to point out largely Muslim rioters because the initial cause wasn't Islamist is pure ignorance.
Ella is way off the mark by parroting mainstream media talking points on this one.
When the media talks about "BAME" people trying to protect things, that's because there's a Sikh population there too.
The problem absolutely is integration but some are harder to integrate than others due to having no such intention.
I came here to write the same thing. I don't know why they bother having her on, she's clueless and just yaps on and on. She also said "the usual types" pointed out most rioters were Muslims but that was racist then says a failure of multiculturalism is that everyone being told they are racist if they step out of line.
Ella is the queen of elite opinions. She fast changes her tune when it’s her own village hall commandeered for gimmigrants.
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I had to turn it off because she sounds so aloof from the topic.
@@patrickmcloughlin6108 Muslims are followers of the religion Islam not a race or a ethnicity or a country.
The police didn't "withdraw". The police didn't "retreat". The police ran away.
Perhaps they were all just fans of "Monty Python's Holy Grail"? "RUN AWAY!!!! RUN AWAY!!!" 😂😂
@FatNorthernBigot It would be funny but the next day the Leeds police were being paid to go on a march to support rainbows 🌈. They stood their ground on that later occasion.
There rainbow lanyards didn't work?
And then arrested all the key players the next day. If the police had gone in fighting on that night the riots would have gone on for three mights. As it was they all rioted til tired, wound themselves down so as probably starting to wonder what they'd done by the next morning . Police then arrested the ppl and no one tried to stop them arresting everyone. If they'd taken them on that night it would have escalated and any attempts to arrest ppl would have created more problems.
@@Cloughjordan23 Followed up by all released without charge!
Thanks Ella, when I saw parts of our country completely lawless and left to mob rule, my first concern was people pointing out the ethnicity of the mob! So grateful you are there to swing into action with your vast interlect and highly turned moral compass to really focus on the important issue of identity politics while our cities burn around us! Good job brains!
Still remember talking to my indian friend warning that the riots would keep escalating, and govt would let it happen because thats exactly how the takeovers in india started....
What takeovers?
It's the strength that keeps on giving.
its all of Leeds though the city has changed my family had to close our business as there were shootings and breakins had been a shop there for nearly 50 yrs destroyed by new comers
So sorry to hear that. Tragic by all accounts.
@@LettyK opened another town but sad we had to leave the area to the rats but its not worth dying for!
All those 80s riots, were primarily diverse people.
Who's the woke woman?
Please note that the videos of this particular riot seemed to show mainly people from the Indian subcontinent in particular Pakistan. Any comments? Is it maybe illegal to state the obvious
I dont think the lady in this discussion has a clue.
Its because they dont assimilate into british culture
@@gavinbissell8847 that's because there is no British culture in the areas they occupy. Britain needs to be reestablished.
Very different reactions from the media concerning the Harehills and Southport riots.
The EDL have been blamed for Southport, but as the media couldn’t blame the far-right for Harehills (and they sure as shit weren’t going to blame the Muslims and Romanians) that has been reported as “community tensions”….
Ella - why do you pair "multiculturalism" with "everyone will get along?" The very concept of multiculturalism posits separate and distinct cultures with no expectation of compromise on the part of the incoming culture and the assumption that any friction with the host culture is evidence of intolerance.
Part of the problem is that the groups also are not given semi autonomy with borders so they can run their own affairs. I am not suggesting countries give land away to migrants, I'm just pointing out that where multiculturalism once worked -UK, Switzerland, Canada and Spain- it worked because distinct ethnic groups had their own territory and their cultures were protected. There was also overlaps between the cultures (they were all Christian and European) and there were forces in place to maintain the cohesion and stability of these nations.
To throw millions of people together with no social contract, no borders or shared cultural norms is absurd. There’s no form of social organization, be it in the form of a romantic relationship between two individuals or a complex network of relationships within a business, where that could ever work. We need boundaries and norms. We now live in a lawless and dysfunctional society because everyone was afraid of being called racist. Such an absurd world.
Running cops is multiculti.
Paul embery is an absolute voice of sanity
I used to consider myself a lefty. When Paul pops up it’s a helpful reminder that it’s them who went mad, not us.
@@shelleyscloud3651Hear hear. Paul’s the kind of left winger who realises that mass immigration, such as the kind we’re seeing here, adversely affects the ‘working class’ by keeping wages low and causing a housing shortage as well as the integration problems
@@shelleyscloud3651 I’m a scouser , I’ve very working class socialist morals and I’ve a patriotic streak (not in a flag waving way , just in being proud of what as a country and people we have / can achieve . I’ve friends who are so called far left who come across to me now as very bitter and angry people . Very very brainwashed as well .
@@Robert-A-R precisely - the left didn’t just abandon the working class - they actively hate them now. You know who made Britain great, who built her on blood, sweat and tears, who never got rich off it, who never got a thanks for it? The working class! It’s their country more than anyone else’s now watch them take it back and build it again! Labour will soon be going into the dustbin along with the Tories.
@@ste2442 I’m not but I played with working class kids during summer holidays from boarding school and I fast figured out that they’re far better people than my class. And watching what’s happening and how decently they’re responding to what’s being done to them only confirms this. Truly the best of us. Makes me sick how much of this is pure class hatred. Tell me, your woke friends, crappy degrees from crappy universities? Sneer the moment they hear a regional accent? Cast out stereotypes about football fans, Spanish holidays and knuckle draggers but need smelling salts if you suggest Islam isn’t very good for women’s rights? Ludicrous hypocrisy. And you know what these fools have probably done, ultimately regardless of who ‘wins’, they killed liberalism and all the progress & tolerance that came with it! Jesus wept….
I like ella BUT she is way off here couldn't you find someone from LEEDS to explain a LEEDS problem ella is showing she didn't grow up around this therefore doesn't have the insight or local knowledge to deliver an accurate analysis
To be fair, you don't have to be from Leeds to know that if you pile in hordes of people from elsewhere, with no shared values and apparently no stake in making the place they came to better... Well what do you expect is going to happen. It is the same anywhere,
@@mr2981 well ella doesn't understand a seemingly neither do you its not hordes of people its hordes of Muslims and Gypsies nothing more nothing less! The whole social fabric has changed in leeds a city which has historically welcomes migrant opoulation having a large jewish population and a chinatown. Everyone used to get along not any longer the violence is causing people to leave and leeds always been a tough city so you know its bad!
@@mr2981 one group is the common denominator it will never work when the largest sub group are fully committed to segregation they don't come to live with us they come to live in competition and refuse to play by the rules they corrupt us!
@@mr2981 im from Bradford we have been holding the border between these people and the rest of UK for 40 yrs not much anyone can tell me about how this so called culture operates its a GANG not different than cartels in mexico or mafioso in Italy go up against them and find out!
The police found their riot gear for Southport. Didnt have it for leeds, Whitechapel or Southend. Why?
I saw nothing in the footage that in anyway could be described as a strength. Experiment failed….
Diversity and equity is a one way street. YOU GIVE TO ME.
I used to respect Ella but lately she is way off on lots of topics. As is spiked in general.
That's cos Spiked is not a right wing publication and every so often their right wing fan boys suddenly realise this an identity problem because they've been enjoying a true left wing output rather than the fake left.
Japan point is a good one. It's like how the points-based immigration discussion around Brexit was called racist when it has been Australia's policy for years completely uncontroversially.
Nah, you lost me at ‘the usual types’.
As a Yank who thinks the "Simulation Theory" is an amusing theory:
The red-haired/Ginger gentleman named "EMBERy," had been a Fire-Fighter?
I'd argue that's code-reuse! 🤣🤣🤣
You think of all the people who came to the UK deliberately, and probably went to some trouble to do it.. Why?
Ella ignorant of the fact the Muslim counsellor stopping the riot was demonised by Spiked as an extremist.
The guy does grown your own vege videos.
Spiked as big a bunch of poseurs as Novara
Why don't you celebrate inclusivity in Britain?
So clearly a stable well integrated society is not wanted in Britain. For the masses that is
Yup
Police have very different handbook for native born population, not excluding grandad's Facebook joke.
It erupted because the police and government allows it to carry on
roma act the same funny thing is they usual don't mix and have been some fighting with muslims usual linked to crime but here they seem to have accepted the muslims help those muslims will come from as far as manchester no doubt!
Romani people were not shown rioting!
It was a muslim community. Romas make up a tiny percentage there
You only need to watch the footage ffs