Just bought a used one of these for 35 euros, can't go wrong at that price, and I'm excited to try it out (in the post atm). Fantastic review, really well done and informative :)
Good job finding them for 35 Euro! Both are fun to use. I personally love manual focus, it gives me the satisfaction to create my image. I hope you will enjoy it as much as I do. If you have a chance to share your pictures please do.
I m using the 7artisans on my videos on my channel..y can see it's really nice...I don't want too much sharpness in my movies...that soft touch makes the visuals so much sweeter I feel...nice vid btw thx y
Thanks so much for this review, very well done. The lab test reveals how poor the corner performance of the 7Artisans really is... Low contrast may be fixed in post but unwanted blurring is just dead space.
Thank you. Lots of "Reviews" about these lenses, but they are all about the "feeling" you have with a manual lens. No one bothered to do test photos to show the image quality.
Thank you for this great review. I am amazed at how well these lenses both perform under 'normal' shooting conditions. I have the Pergear and I am quite happy with it, but after seeing your review, I think I would prefer the better contrast of the 7Artisans - tough choice I think.
A nice comparison. I have the 25 F1.8 Pergear and was pleasantly surprised by how good it was for the cost. I think if you are budget conscious and need a good lens to get you started either one would be a fine choice although I prefer the Pergear.
i don´t know why i prefer the look of the artisans even when the pergear seems to have a bit more technical qualities. some kind of vibe? i don´t really know
A great review. I have the Pergear 25/1.8 and my experience aligns with what you have reported. It performs well on my Fujifilm X-T20 and I have been very happy with my choice.
I have the Pergear 35 mm F1.2 and I just love the low contrast it generates, in fact looks like my XF 33mm F1.4 with black pro mist filter. And I just came to this video to check if the Pergear 25 mm F1.8 would be well paired with the Pergear 35 mm in terms of image consistency.
thing is pergear is giving very good cinematic look in comparison too 7 Artisans but i think we can do color grade with 7 artisans videos then it will be good because if we do color grade with pregear videos then limitations were there
In the end it boils down to personal preference. There is no right or wrong when it comes to personal taste and artistic style. Most important: enjoy creating beautiful images
Pergear colors are really nice, reminds me of Kodak 35mm film, sharper and better barrel distortion, nicer bokeh, I ordered one! So bad it lacks a little bit more contrast :(
Thank you, Paul. Much appreciated. I will have a few more new lenses shortly, like the Meike 85mm f1.8, the Viltrox 50mm f1.8, the Samyang 35mm f1.4....
Hi Daniel, I'll keep that in mind. For now I have o safe up a bit. As you know I don't make money here, I'm not sponsored and I don't have enough views to monetize my channel. I just spent too much buying the Sony a7r4, the Sony 35mm f/1.4 and the Tamron 28-200mm (review is coming tomorrow)
2:58 and f/8, 7 Artisans has a much sharper image. But does anyone shoot at f8? At 3:31 the focus on the Pergear seems AWFUL- but didn't you say at f/1.8 the Pergear was a bit sharper? So was this a Focus issue or a sharpness issue? I hope you are taking multiple shots and picking the sharpest for each lens. You say the Pergear is sharper but I wonder if you have motion or focus issues. At 5:22 the 7Artisans is FAR sharper. The Bike seat pic was the opposite, with Pergear seeming sharper. I also think the car headlight showed 7Artisans as sharper. But 5:22 7 Artisans was again far clearer- which makes me think there were motion issues with the flower shots- even a small breeze makes the flowers move. They are not good for such tests. 6:08 hard to make a fair comparison because the image on the left was cloudier while the one on the right had more direct sunlight. Nice call on Bokeh shape. I LOVE the idea of this comparison. However I think you need another round, with more careful controls over motion, lighting and triple-check that focus. Also, it would be fun to see what happens if you compare your two PerGear lenses! I also wonder: which lens is *really* 25mm wide?
Thank you for this very helpful video. Nicely done. Even though I can see the differences in your side-by-side comparisons, both look good to me. LOL I would feel good about owning either of these.
You are right, both look good. If you like you can buy my 7Artisans, I used it only once for this review, it's practically new: www.paradisebizz.com/reviewed-items-for-sale
Thanks for a most informative and well produced review. With the range of low cost lenses from China now it is becoming rather confusing. It would be interesting to know if both Pergear lenses performed the same as I wonder how good quality control is with the lenses from China. I'm an Olympus user and have Meike 35mm f1.4, the 7 Artisans 55mm f1.4 and the Kamlan 50mm f1.1 Mk 1. The Meike and 7Artisans lenses perform like analogue lenses (no surprise) with the Meike being the sharper of the 2 and providing lovely colours. Both are good value. The Kamlan is a fun lens but the performance isn't that good. I believe that the Mk2 is much better.
Interesting observation. I have not tested Meike or Kamlan yet. I have a new upcoming video in 2 days about the surprising Pergear 35mm f1.2 - it's not live yet, but soon it will be: ua-cam.com/video/0mGXaxkkw60/v-deo.html
@@ParadiseBizz Hi there. I look forward to seeing your revue. Many of the Chinese/legacy lenses are criticised for poor sharpness at full aperture and around the corners. I've just acquired Topaz Labs Sharpen A1 and am amazed at how it can improve poor images. The level of detail that it is able to extract is quite remarkable.
@@ianharper6015 Interesting, thanks for sharing this Ian. I just did a new review on the TTArtisan 21mm f1.5 With the aperture wide open it was almost un-usable. I'd love to see your app in action
really surprising to me, how much better the pergear performs. i have the pergear 12mm f2. and i am not very impressed. thats why i thought the 7artisans might be better here. but the pergear 25mm seems impressive...
Thanks for the great review! For quite some time I've been looking to get some nice little camera for street photo and ended up replacing my Canon 50d for a Fuji x-e1 cause the 50d was just too chonky for my street photo workflow. Thanks to your review I decided to get the 7 Artisans 25mm f1.8 and I couldn't be happier. This camera and lens combo is exactly what I was looking for for all those years of shooting soviet analogue rangefinders and perfectly suits my love for contrast and old imperfect soviet lenses.
I have the 7Artisans and what drives me crazy is that distances printed on the focusing ring are way WAY WAY!! off. If you set the lens at 4 feet by the scale it is in focus at 2 feet. Whoever did the calculations for where to print those numbers on the focusing ring must have been figuring for a completely different focal length. The depth of field scale is also pure fiction. For us old timers who used to do street photography from the hip by presetting focus from the scale it is a big deal that 7Artisans did not spend the time to get this right.
You just showed that good review doesn’t need fancy effects. Great job.
Tanks for watching and for your kind words
Just bought a used one of these for 35 euros, can't go wrong at that price, and I'm excited to try it out (in the post atm). Fantastic review, really well done and informative :)
Good job finding them for 35 Euro! Both are fun to use. I personally love manual focus, it gives me the satisfaction to create my image. I hope you will enjoy it as much as I do. If you have a chance to share your pictures please do.
I m using the 7artisans on my videos on my channel..y can see it's really nice...I don't want too much sharpness in my movies...that soft touch makes the visuals so much sweeter I feel...nice vid btw thx y
Thanks, I'll check our channel later
That sharpness w,/o contrast is the look i'm looking 4
Perfect, then you found your match amzn.to/3capHsK
Thanks so much for this review, very well done. The lab test reveals how poor the corner performance of the 7Artisans really is... Low contrast may be fixed in post but unwanted blurring is just dead space.
Thanks for watching and for taking the time to leave me a comment. I agree, the corner performance is really not great
Thank you. Lots of "Reviews" about these lenses, but they are all about the "feeling" you have with a manual lens. No one bothered to do test photos to show the image quality.
I am glad you found my review helpful. Thanks for watching and for taking the time to leave me a nice comment. Dirk
Thank you for this great review. I am amazed at how well these lenses both perform under 'normal' shooting conditions. I have the Pergear and I am quite happy with it, but after seeing your review, I think I would prefer the better contrast of the 7Artisans - tough choice I think.
For the price you can't go wrong either or.
A nice comparison. I have the 25 F1.8 Pergear and was pleasantly surprised by how good it was for the cost. I think if you are budget conscious and need a good lens to get you started either one would be a fine choice although I prefer the Pergear.
I totally agree. both perform better than you can expect for the price. But I too prefer the Pergear
i don´t know why i prefer the look of the artisans even when the pergear seems to have a bit more technical qualities. some kind of vibe? i don´t really know
Perfection does not equal beauty
A great review. I have the Pergear 25/1.8 and my experience aligns with what you have reported. It performs well on my Fujifilm X-T20 and I have been very happy with my choice.
I kept my Pergear as well and I am very happy with it.
WOw. Really nice review. Thank you!
Thank you, Paul, I'm gad you liked it
Great video and comparison, waiting for my Pergear to arrive!
Thanks for watching and for taking the time to leave a comment. I truly appreciate it.
Me 2
I have the 7Artizsans and not problems. It's a nice travel lens for indoor(churches, museums...).
It is definitely a nice lens and I'm glad you enjoy creating beautiful memories with it.
Very good review thank you sir ;-)
Thanks for watching
I have the Pergear 35 mm F1.2 and I just love the low contrast it generates, in fact looks like my XF 33mm F1.4 with black pro mist filter. And I just came to this video to check if the Pergear 25 mm F1.8 would be well paired with the Pergear 35 mm in terms of image consistency.
Thanks for sharing, looks like the 35mm f1.2 is consistent with the 25mm lens lineup. Is the 35mm a full frame lens or an aps-c lens?
@@ParadiseBizz I have the apsc version for fujifilm. I loved it because its imperfection, ideal for filmic looking images.
@@martinohesse Of course, other filmmakers purchase expansive filters to achieve that look
thing is pergear is giving very good cinematic look in comparison too 7 Artisans but i think we can do color grade with 7 artisans videos then it will be good because if we do color grade with pregear videos then limitations were there
In the end it boils down to personal preference. There is no right or wrong when it comes to personal taste and artistic style. Most important: enjoy creating beautiful images
Pergear colors are really nice, reminds me of Kodak 35mm film, sharper and better barrel distortion, nicer bokeh, I ordered one!
So bad it lacks a little bit more contrast :(
At least it has a great sharpness. Contrast can be added in post. I hope you enjoy it and you take many amazing images.
super review
Thank you, Paulie, happy holidays
This is an excellent comparison, thanks so much for taking the time - super helpful! Subscribed 👍😊 Paul
Thank you, Paul. Much appreciated. I will have a few more new lenses shortly, like the Meike 85mm f1.8, the Viltrox 50mm f1.8, the Samyang 35mm f1.4....
Well done with the image comparisons. The Pergear seems sharper but lacks contrast.
How is the focus breathing in both lenses? 7 artisans is a mess! Is pergear any different?
Pergear was a bit better, but far from being perfect
Great review. Thanks. The comparisons really help with making a choice. I think I prefer the 7 Artisans because the colors look more realistic.
Thanks for watching. Which lenses should I review next? Do you have any lenses on your wish list?
Nice video, would be very cool if you do a comparison between the Pergear 35mm f1.6 vs the TT artisans 35mm f1.4
Hi Daniel, I'll keep that in mind. For now I have o safe up a bit. As you know I don't make money here, I'm not sponsored and I don't have enough views to monetize my channel. I just spent too much buying the Sony a7r4, the Sony 35mm f/1.4 and the Tamron 28-200mm (review is coming tomorrow)
Man, that was a solid review. Instant sub. :) thank you very much
Thank you so much, more to come
really nice comparison! What is the MFD of both? Any substantial difference?
MFD's TTArtisans: 0.18 m (7.09″) and Pergear 0.20m (7.87")
I'm looking at this lens for my Fuji system and just order the TTArtisans 50 1.2 and 35 1.4 and can't wait to use them. Thanks for the video..
Thanks for watching
2:58 and f/8, 7 Artisans has a much sharper image. But does anyone shoot at f8? At 3:31 the focus on the Pergear seems AWFUL- but didn't you say at f/1.8 the Pergear was a bit sharper? So was this a Focus issue or a sharpness issue? I hope you are taking multiple shots and picking the sharpest for each lens. You say the Pergear is sharper but I wonder if you have motion or focus issues. At 5:22 the 7Artisans is FAR sharper. The Bike seat pic was the opposite, with Pergear seeming sharper. I also think the car headlight showed 7Artisans as sharper. But 5:22 7 Artisans was again far clearer- which makes me think there were motion issues with the flower shots- even a small breeze makes the flowers move. They are not good for such tests. 6:08 hard to make a fair comparison because the image on the left was cloudier while the one on the right had more direct sunlight. Nice call on Bokeh shape.
I LOVE the idea of this comparison. However I think you need another round, with more careful controls over motion, lighting and triple-check that focus. Also, it would be fun to see what happens if you compare your two PerGear lenses! I also wonder: which lens is *really* 25mm wide?
Thanks for sharing your thoughts
tHANK You!!
I wish I'd seen your review before purchasing my 7artisan. Good review with excellent comparative info.
The 7Artisans is still nice
Pergear all the way 🙌
So much sharper
@@ParadiseBizz definitely 💯 👏
I love this review. Thanks.
Thank you :)
Thank you for this very helpful video. Nicely done. Even though I can see the differences in your side-by-side comparisons, both look good to me. LOL I would feel good about owning either of these.
You are right, both look good. If you like you can buy my 7Artisans, I used it only once for this review, it's practically new: www.paradisebizz.com/reviewed-items-for-sale
So Which lens My Panasonic Camera Lumix g85 bast plz tell me sir
Happy to help/ But this depends on your budget and what you would like to take pictures of. let me know
Sir don't worry about bought let me know which lens Is good for wedding Bridal shoot pergear 50mm lens and 7Artmiems Lens whose results is better???
@@avinashkumaravi2833 here I found some good alternatives: ua-cam.com/video/RkazcT0i5NM/v-deo.html
Thanks from Argentina, im going to Pergear ;)!
Greetings from Florida to Argentina, please take some amazing photos and shar a link here for me to look at some
Instant subscribe. I like you. Good thorough, mature review, audio paired well etc. Peace. :-)
Thank you, Tobias. Much appreciated
Nice comparison video.
Glad you enjoyed it
Thanks fot this video!
Thanks for watching
Cool !
Thanks, Mark
I ordered 7 artisans.for cannon m50.
Take some amazing photos and let us all know where we can see some of your work
Thanks for a most informative and well produced review.
With the range of low cost lenses from China now it is becoming rather confusing. It would be interesting to know if both Pergear lenses performed the same as I wonder how good quality control is with the lenses from China.
I'm an Olympus user and have Meike 35mm f1.4, the 7 Artisans 55mm f1.4 and the Kamlan 50mm f1.1 Mk 1.
The Meike and 7Artisans lenses perform like analogue lenses (no surprise) with the Meike being the sharper of the 2 and providing lovely colours. Both are good value. The Kamlan is a fun lens but the performance isn't that good. I believe that the Mk2 is much better.
Interesting observation. I have not tested Meike or Kamlan yet. I have a new upcoming video in 2 days about the surprising Pergear 35mm f1.2 - it's not live yet, but soon it will be: ua-cam.com/video/0mGXaxkkw60/v-deo.html
@@ParadiseBizz Hi there. I look forward to seeing your revue.
Many of the Chinese/legacy lenses are criticised for poor sharpness at full aperture and around the corners. I've just acquired Topaz Labs Sharpen A1 and am amazed at how it can improve poor images. The level of detail that it is able to extract is quite remarkable.
@@ianharper6015 Interesting, thanks for sharing this Ian. I just did a new review on the TTArtisan 21mm f1.5 With the aperture wide open it was almost un-usable. I'd love to see your app in action
really surprising to me, how much better the pergear performs. i have the pergear 12mm f2. and i am not very impressed. thats why i thought the 7artisans might be better here. but the pergear 25mm seems impressive...
I agree, so much better sharpness
Good review! Pergear by a nose!
That's what I thought
In some shots Pergear looks like log profile...
haha, you're right. It does due to the reduced contrast. I personally like it better than the 7Artisans.
@@ParadiseBizz Me too. I just ordered it. Thank you!
@@crisrocchi2722 Enjoy and create some amazing photos
You're doing god's work
And so do you, my friend.
it seems there's a t-stop difference.
Which one do you like better?
7👍🏻
Thanks for watching
@@ParadiseBizz I am also used 7 on my youbtube video
Thanks for the great review! For quite some time I've been looking to get some nice little camera for street photo and ended up replacing my Canon 50d for a Fuji x-e1 cause the 50d was just too chonky for my street photo workflow. Thanks to your review I decided to get the 7 Artisans 25mm f1.8 and I couldn't be happier. This camera and lens combo is exactly what I was looking for for all those years of shooting soviet analogue rangefinders and perfectly suits my love for contrast and old imperfect soviet lenses.
Oh, I'm so happy I could hep. I am sure you will take some amazing photos. Maybe you can share a link where I could see some?
I have the 7Artisans and what drives me crazy is that distances printed on the focusing ring are way WAY WAY!! off. If you set the lens at 4 feet by the scale it is in focus at 2 feet. Whoever did the calculations for where to print those numbers on the focusing ring must have been figuring for a completely different focal length. The depth of field scale is also pure fiction. For us old timers who used to do street photography from the hip by presetting focus from the scale it is a big deal that 7Artisans did not spend the time to get this right.
Yes, the print is only deco
Yes. Can confirm this on 7artisan. I usually may to adjust distance slightly off.
@@pt4822 Doesn't it depend on aps-c versus full frame? So if you're shooting on aps-c these numbers will be different, no?
@@callmedeno yes, that makes sense