When you try to write a Misogynistic Character but your only influence is that one clueless guy who misspelled your name on your Starbuck cup in California
Never happened to me, and I've lived in LA, my entire life. I wouldn't write someone this terrible, because I've genuinely seen terrible men, and women that womanize, misogynistic tendencies, and r@p3 women on the daily basis. These show writers are just terrible writers.
“Whoa there, kiddo. We need to rap for a minute about your ‘tude. ...I’m a cool writer! Please think I’m cool, we’ve all been on Tumblr most of our lives and the only man I know is my creepy uncle who visits on Thanksgiving! Please like us!”
Teacher: "Son, we need to have a word." "If you're going to throw insults at the newbie, you need to loosen up. Don't deliver your taunting so stalely. And be sure to *really* dig deep into them. I want to see tears next time you dish it out." Aster: "Thanks for the advice, teach. I won't let you down."
@@saulesalejos4483 oh I’m sure there’s plenty of people who would love to riff on it, but yeah, it’s pretty janky to have to stare at for long periods of time
@@saulesalejos4483 It’s shitty shows like this that need to be abridged the most, cause it’s the only way to make them fun: by ripping the hell out of ‘em XD
my favorite “misogynistic” character ever written has to be sokka from avatar the last airbender. he’s naturally written, and his progression makes sense. this dude feels so inorganic tho.
Sokka grew up in a society with highly enforced gender roles. He had been raised to believe that men best served the role of warrior/breadwinner while women were better at housekeeping. When he explored new cultures and found indisputably that this was not true, he apologized and humbled himself. It was such a simple, honest part of his character progression compared to this abomination
This is why, and no I will never call the show and anime, but I've heard a lot of sjw's talk about support female anime writers blah blah blah but to be honest with you, as someone who calls myself a feminist and an otaku, the most feminist anime I've watched and manga I've read were written by men, ironically, the stuff written by women, we're actually quite condescending towards women. It's almost like they had internalized misogyny or something. They hyper focused way too much on a roll of a woman and basically a lot of female tropes that just need to die off for goodness sakes, and I have to say, in comparison, evangelion is a whole heck of a lot more politically correct than this show by a long shot. It shows a humanized, non-toxic masculine male character, and authentic representation of a boy with actual complicated emotions who cries, and isn't a stereotype in any direction, and deals with the very real problem of daddy issues. It is vent art, and to be honest with you, while I love the basis of the plot, I really struggle to watch evangelion, just simply because especially if someone who's been sexually assaulted before, I just can't watch the poor thing go through several seasons of episodes living with a woman who's literally grooming him. If you don't know what I'm talking about, note like the first scene, where he has a photograph of the woman who's supposed to pick him up, and literally, misato has a photograph of her with handwritten notes on it pointing out her cleavage and everything, it was so disturbing. I've really feel bad for the poor kid, I know he's fictional, but that's why I can't watch it, I just feel too bad for him and I will always cringe at the female characters in that anime, I'm guessing it was reflective of something the creator of it went through, I'm assuming also how he sexualizes shinji's sexual abusers, I kind of wondered if the guy was maybe groomed by women growing up?? I don't know it seems very likely to me, either way, I feel really bad for both the writer as well as the fictional character he wrote that goes through all kinds of horrendous things. Either way though, evangelion has much better social representation than this show ever will Edit: I was using voice to text, and how I said anime made Google think I said enemy
“Hello fellow tweens! (smirks) My name is CHAD MANspread and I think girl = weak. I guess Rubicon here proved me wrong. Just this once though. I’m also a misogynist. Could you tell?”
Hold on, I can explain this scene just fine. Aster starts the clip sincere, praising his crush. Then, he is told to take it back a notch. He does this through making a joke. His joke is producing an overly dramatic speech about his recent loss. But not realising that he should probably stop praising Rosemary, he leads the joke straight into continuing the praise, although in a less aggressive manner. This all characterises him as someone who: -Is passionate for what he loves (Hence the praise, and hence why he is impossible to derail from it) -Is socially blind (Since he clearly can't read the room) -Is not bothered by trivial failure (Since he jokes about a recent loss) -Is somewhat intelligent (Since he can come up with a joke in about a second) -Tries being considerate (Since he does reduce the intensity of the praise, even if he doesn't stop) Then the writers realise that "softboy with Asperger's" is too likeable and turn him into a stuck-up prick, thereby destroying 4 of the 5 traits established in the same scene.
I couldn't tell without the context of seeing more of the show if he was antagonistic towards her and was being sarcastic or if he fancied the pants off her and was managing to make a complete fool of himself while trying to praise her. But yeah acting like he did something seriously wrong by doing so was a bit weird. No blood was spilled. Not if the adult then followed that up with a conversation about how to speak to someone you are crushing on without antagonising them - that might be helpful - but I suspect a show like this isn't going to take the show's spotlight away from the protagonist to show such a conversation or even admit to his motivations and if they are positive or negative - they might not even care - they instead only care about how she feels about what he says not what he intended to say be it good or bad.
Yes Yes everything you just said was what I was thinking. I just couldn't put it into words but yeah they aren't establishing this character like what a human would act.
The change in tone and mood did not make sense here at all. They never tried to have him establish any reasoning of why he started acting like a stuck up prick. No asking of questions or trying to understand each other.
It's funny how the writer's of this show say that men can't write good female characters, yet somehow they managed to not only write the worst female characters imaginable, and make the male characters the most appealing part of the show 💀
The animation does not suck even though the style is not my cup of tea, the rest is just bad, I wonder if a rewrite dub and I mean a Ghost Stories-level of departure from the original source could actually make this something bearable.
The women who wrote this have never held a real conversation with a real human male in their entire lives. Edit: Watching this comment blow up over the last two days was pretty fun. Thanks guys and gals (:
@@anasbakhit4303 Yeah it's in the video. I was just struck with the realization that these women (and trans men I guess) are basically the inverse of the stereotype of the nerdy socially inept dude that never talks to girls. It made me realize that getting no attention from the opposite sex is just as unhealthy for women as it is for men.
I bet the black dude, took Aster inside and told him, "listen man, I was just putting up an act, there is no reason for you to be suffering and having a conversation with the world's most unintersting basic girls" *hugs him and cries*
If the writers of this show actually met a genuine mysogynist who had even a SLIVER of social awareness, he could probably convince them he was the greatest person on the planet.
THE FUCKINH “wow son we need to have a word” AND THEN THE CUTOFF IS SO FUCKING FUNNY TO ME I HAVE BEEN GIGGLING AT IT FOR 30 MINUTES AND HIS VOICE IS SO BAD
I like how uncreative aster’s “toxic masculinity” is. It’s so incredibly basic. What a one-note, token, stereotype character. Gotta have him be white, blonde haired, and blue eyed too. What revolutionary ground the writers are exploring here. It’s funny seeing them try to make cultural statements while simultaneously revealing their own prejudices.
@@JonkoSlunko What. I'm saying toxic masculinity was really portrayed well through him before he had his whole arc. He was sexist and had a skewed idea of what it meant to be a man. But it was never malicious and he genuinely cared about people.
@@Nana-wi4gi I see what you mean. He saw women as damsels and that he NEEDED to be strong to be a man, and not for an ego type of way but to prove himself as a person
Black man calling him “son” is the best part of the scene. It feels genuine. Like he’s just thinking “What the hell is this kid saying? Did a crack addict override his brain?” Black man best character.
It kinda looks bad when you parade your group of writers composed 100% of women as some kind of statement against the status quo, and then proceed to put out this kind of uncomfortably robotic dialogue between equally uninspired characters.
In all honesty any show is destined to fail when its main selling point is 100% of any gender. Gender doesnt amplify a skill or quality since even the worst at everything can be male or female. Gender doesnt matter and all it does it take the fun out of it.
they don’t seem to understand how normalizing things works, maybe if they actually looked and hired good female writers instead of just any woman who came by and seemed nice to them, and then didn’t mention that their writers were all women (instead of bringing everyone’s attention to it as a selling point, which is literally the opposite of normalizing something) then we would all be fans of this show. maybe.
@@bigdingus9333 Or dont have a writing team at all. Doing it alone seems better bc you always are bound to disagree with people on a matter and it just possibly makes the story inconsistent. Animanga Industry BEEN doing that
One of the things I remember most about an instructional book about drawing manga is that "hair grows; it's not just plonked on." I've played flash Avatar creators with less plonked-on hairstyles.
Alright everybody, new head cannon. Everyone on the show is an actor in a purposely bad show. And Aster is actually a sweet “himbo” like some comments are saying he could’ve been. Just like everyone playing a shit character here is actually a decent, realistic human being behind the scenes. This is my AU.
My headcanon/theory is Aster is forcing himself to be rude towards women because if he does, an interdimensional entity called The Writer punishes him and swallows the whole HGS universe, thus ending it
His cartoony over the top way of being so on the nose makes it sound like he knows exactly how dumb the character is but he's playing it up for laughs. Intentionally or unintentionally, I find his performance pretty enjoyable here.
These line reads don't sound like they were from the same conversation. It almost sounds like the showrunners used sentence mixing to splice together a scene.
I've noticed that the writers don't understand what makes a "bigoted" character the way they are. I'm assuming this is because they don't understand the thought process behind said character, and simply create them out of spite. They seem to understand that their enemies are irrational, but they don't want to understand *_why_* they are. Is Aster like this because he is: Having self-esteem issues? Hiding his true self? Chasing "the high" of being dominant? Seeking attention and validation? You can't see these flaws in Aster's character, which is why his dialogue comes of as fake.
Fun Fact: One of the writers on this show (Kate Leth) has a history of being racist and transphobic. Edit: This is a TLDR taken from a document detailing of her past if anyone is curious TL;DR: Kate Leth created a facebook group for “women in comics” (that later added the inclusion of non-binary people) called the Valkyries. The space was criticised for not being inclusive toward POC and non-binary members. She ultimately left the group after being criticized but retained control of the group and would not let remaining admins make any adjustments. She has had history of exclusionary transphobic and racist behavior toward other comics creators. She also has a pattern of giving empty apologies when criticized for her actions, deleting her posts, deflecting blame without taking accountability and “taking a break” then returning once things have blown over. Kate also has a history of centering herself in all situations and often does not support specific communities until she can see herself within said community.
She also openly hates men and regularly calls for the deplatforming of male creators and the death of men to the point that she has Merch with "Kill all men" on the front.
This feels like my level of writing. And yes, I just insulted myself, but I never thought of myself as amazing or talented at many things so I consider comparing something to me to be an insult.
Well, the sheer fact you see this as utter dreck and you also compare it to yourself shows you have growth potential and growth development. The writers on this are not that. To me, this should've been on CN, not CR. Gives off Steven universe/ netflix she-ra/ voltron/ "I am not starfire" vibes if all were thrown in a blender and left on for a week and rotted.
I feel like my opinion needs to be shared here: I didn't care for their initial trailer talking about how "inclusive" their writing team was, but I was still really excited for this show. I say this because I am a lesbian and it feels like the writing team was trying to partly speak to people like me in the trailer. I know that trailer turned many off of you away from it, and I don't blame you. It made me uncomfortable too. what. the fuck. is this? I've seen so many shitty clips from this show. The dialogue is shit, the art style is terrible when animated (and gives me She-ra flashbacks *shudders*), and the animation itself is so cheap. What is this garbage? I don't think I'm going to even give this show a chance now lmao I say "lmao" but I am legitimately sad.
The only problem is that they were speaking for you, not to you. That’s why even for the supposed demographic, this is disappointing. The only people this show is for are the types who spend their entire days on twitter obsessing over people they’re too narrow-minded to be tolerant of. Like, this has no merits as entertainment, only as a cheap attempt at bragging rights.
I'm not gonna lie, there is ONE line in this entire scene that is actually compelling. When he shifts vocal tone, right at the start of that line when he does a little inflection and gesture with putting his fist over his mouth and extremely disingenuously goes on to claim to have been very moved. Really nailed that exact tone, phrasing and pace for the delivery. It lasted only from "that I have a lot to learn, *pause* about myself." Immediately after that line, it went back to being nonsensically paced and poorly written, but that one moment was solid.
He's so dramatic it's honestly hilarious. Like why make him needlessly sexist when he could have been a perfectly funny himbo? Would have been a better take on the Mr. Perfect trope. Smh. And why does the black dudes head move like that when speaking, like that's not what people do when they say stuff like that-
"shes just a regular girl, nothing to notice" that must be one of the worst lines i have ever heard in my life, that is some sentence you might find in an essay about the series but not the series itself
When you say that I genuinely believe the AI that made _Harry Potter and a Portrait of What Appears to Be a Pile Of Ash_ was the only member of this show's writing team.
I like how he was legitimately complimenting her and she got mad and called him a name and then he insults her back and then he got in triuoble for doing absolutely nothing wrong in the first place lmaoooo
I thought he was being sarcastic and she didn’t like that. So he called her stuck-up for not understanding it was a joke, but the comments are talking about toxic masculinity. Can someone explain?
I want to know too. The only thing I can inference is that blond guy is just misogynistic are whatever else describes him. Thing is, his personality and portrayal is done poorly.
It's the writers pathetic attempt to portray anyone as male/straight/cis/white/etc as some dumb bad nasty "grrrr😠". The writers are openly prejudiced against any majority and only care about woke points, this is their attempt to write a depiction of their nonsensical understanding of a "typical" stereotype of a man, they're twitter/Tumblr feminists who are so desperate to seem progressive that they're actively regressive being heavily misandrist and even being transphobic to their own friends if it gives them a chance to go on about "Yaya! Girlpower ecks dee XD!" and how much they hate men. The most hypocritical nonsense around, prime example of that particular brand of the bad side of the far left. Honestly the amount of prejudice is already awful no matter who it's from but they're pretending to be progressive heroes at the same time, which is just saddening.
Yeah I was wondering the same thing. The only unnatural thing is the last line from the teacher. Otherwise this just sounds like a normal scene, maybe giving like abridged vibes since it seems like it’s not serious and being satirical of the concept “reformed sexist”. Then again, I haven’t watched the show.
That's kinda doing a disservice. There are many great female writers who have created amazing stories. THESE women however are not even of the same talent as them.
@@-o-dq7nd And now the talented female writers may have trouble finding jobs bc these losers probably scared everyone away from counting on female writers.
Nah, Ai's will say or do whatever they want in a chaotic and random matter, which may even be funny. This is too restricted to what it can or not can do.
“Huh, should’ve known you were stuck up.” In contrast with the rest of the scene, this one line delivery sounded pretty good. Not the actual line in context or anything, just the voice actor’s performance. Something decent is so out of place I woke up for a second.
@@Aevum13th In comparison to the "sexist/discriminatory" lines that were so bland I thought, "Wow, he's pretty horrible with names... and the comment of cute must be pretty unintentional cause of how awkward he seeems". Like, I didn't realize he was supposed to be... a character that wasn't just awkward and bored. And forgetful (or obsessed with rutabaga, the vegetable)
The escalation of this scene is so damn weird. First you get Rosemary's weird groaning line, then you get Aster's response about her being stuck-up which, contextually, seems to have no easing into it. And then Rosemary growls? And the way the professor abruptly steps in? It's so unnatural. The pacing of their conversation and emotions is all off.
@@Deadflower019 It could actually, if they made it so that it was all just acting for a theater story. That way, this whole cringe stuff wouldn't be cringe anymore because it's just all acting.
"Son, we need to have a word." "This is a portal to a different series. don't know how good it is, but it's gotta be better than this--go! There's no time, save yourself!"
“Should’ve known you were stuck-up” sounds like it was just the actor caught on a hot mic but the writers were just too stupid to realize that he was insulting them and not ad-libbing a line 😂
@@solarflames7721 I thought it was supposed to be the feminist cliche of the guy trying to hit on the girl only when she rejects his advances he gets mad and calls her a B!txh. She kinda is though
How the fuck does this have so many likes
IDK bro u famous, congrats!
@@webizaoescaldao9096 show me dude
@@YanoLBP Idk bro, I just happened to cross this vid.
Thank the algorithm
because big funny
When you try to write a Misogynistic Character but your only influence is that one clueless guy who misspelled your name on your Starbuck cup in California
Now this😂😂😂😂i actually laughed at
So oddly specific, yet accurate.
@@plagueday5395 I know its oddly specific but its the truth, these people probably never leave LA
Never happened to me, and I've lived in LA, my entire life. I wouldn't write someone this terrible, because I've genuinely seen terrible men, and women that womanize, misogynistic tendencies, and r@p3 women on the daily basis. These show writers are just terrible writers.
@@TermiHorsecity My condolences and prayers
Fans to CrunchyRoll: “Wow, son, we need to have a word….”
There are still fans?
Wait cringeyroll has fan?
@@notimportant1659 Good point. More like, “users stuck with no other alternatives.”
Lol
Haha lol yeah
Funny how they wrote the show to try and make you hate Aster, yet he's more likable than most of the characters
He's a manly looking man, of course he's the bad guy. Only women and transgenders are allowed to be put in a positive light.
are you talking about the baby faced man with a ponytail?
@@animegirl7881
That's the name of the character yeah
@@animegirl7881 Every man is babyfaced because the writers hate masculinity
@@animegirl7881 He's literally just Link but he talks
"Wow. Son. We need to have a word."
-A Human Person
Or Baron von Horrible Voice Actor.
🤙 Determinism is Freedom 🤙 🤙
“Wow son we need to have a word”
WAS THE ‘WOW’ PART REALLY NEEDED!? I can’t…
Unbased should've said wowie zowie
_Waow_
this show would be so much better if everyone just said wowie zowie all the time
@@abyssalnothingness zoo wee mama!
“Whoa there, kiddo. We need to rap for a minute about your ‘tude. ...I’m a cool writer! Please think I’m cool, we’ve all been on Tumblr most of our lives and the only man I know is my creepy uncle who visits on Thanksgiving! Please like us!”
"Son we need to have a word."
Theres no way a line THIS FUCKING SIMPLE can still be delivered so horribly.
And yet it was.
you forgot the "WOW" before it.
It reminded me of the one kid from Bojacks acting class in Bojack s6 that always acted with an old man voice lol
THE WOW WAS NOT NECESSARY 💀
He said "waow, son, we need to have a word"
Teacher: "Son, we need to have a word."
"If you're going to throw insults at the newbie, you need to loosen up. Don't deliver your taunting so stalely. And be sure to *really* dig deep into them. I want to see tears next time you dish it out."
Aster: "Thanks for the advice, teach. I won't let you down."
Ha ha now that’s some good criticism.
Good Ending
How does this comment have better dialogue than the entirety of the show?
“Excellent Advanced Rudery, Hiccup! We’ll make a Viking out of you yet!”
-Gobber the Belch
"Motivate the protagonist into being a true rival rather than delivering your lines like you're being underpaid!"
I got an ad for a suicide hotline before this
It's a sign
And people say UA-cam’s ads are a problem
Definitely needed
precaution
I need one after this
This show deserves the Ghost Stories dub treatment if that’s the quality of the voice acting for it.
DUDE, it needs to happen
@@Cometstarlight I doubt any youtube channel would want to do an abridged of this series, but hey, we can dream alright?
@@saulesalejos4483 oh I’m sure there’s plenty of people who would love to riff on it, but yeah, it’s pretty janky to have to stare at for long periods of time
@@saulesalejos4483 oh man I'd LOVE to voice act in an abridged series of this. It would be fucking hilarious (and probably better than this)
@@saulesalejos4483 It’s shitty shows like this that need to be abridged the most, cause it’s the only way to make them fun: by ripping the hell out of ‘em XD
0:25 This part straight up sounds like a kid trying to win an argument in the most badass way possible
"I can't think of anything worth saying, so I'll just make awkward noises to convey a vague disapproval."
It looks like a 2D cut out on a 3D background and I hate it.
@@Ozzy08018 hey if it works for gumball it works for this, what is artistic direction anyway
@@RusticRonnie Not if the show is this bad
And then the dude just shuts her down 🤣
why does aster get the best voice actor? that "should've known you were stuck up" was really good
Rewatched the clip to see what you meant and yeah- he seems like a solid va who was just really poorly directed at times.
On a rewatch yeah, that line was delivered so well
It sounds weirdly cute
@@pikapower_kirby Yeah, VAs only do good when you give them clear instructions, just like artists, and clearly this anime didn't do that in any sense.
@@asdgreersf
>anime
“Son, we need to have a word” -🤖
Don't forget the WOW!!!
🤙 Determinism is Freedom 🤙
my favorite “misogynistic” character ever written has to be sokka from avatar the last airbender. he’s naturally written, and his progression makes sense. this dude feels so inorganic tho.
Sokka grew up in a society with highly enforced gender roles. He had been raised to believe that men best served the role of warrior/breadwinner while women were better at housekeeping. When he explored new cultures and found indisputably that this was not true, he apologized and humbled himself.
It was such a simple, honest part of his character progression compared to this abomination
Yeah Suki, quite literally, kicked the sense into Sokka.
@@tlkfanrwbyfan8716 gave him that respect women juice
@@tlkfanrwbyfan8716 Sometimes all a guy needs is a warrior, muscle-girlfriend who can, will, and has beat the absolute shit out of them.
@@meanyapickles wasn't that a major plot point for him with that group of non bending warrior women from the earth nation?
You know why this guy has wheat-coloured hair?
Because he's a literal Strawman.
0:04
This is actually an Intelligent comment.
@Александар Миловић indeed. This is like Light Yagami level punnery. I know "punnery" isn't an actual word, but whatever.
I’m surprised everyone didn’t start clapping after the teacher said
“Wow. Son, We need to have a word”
I’m gonna take a wild guess and say NONE of the writers have ever met or heard an actual sexist person talk lmaooo
You don't think the writers talk with eachother?
Based on other clips I've seen, I'm not sure these writers have ever heard anyone talk.
@Aaaagh Door Im sorry for the way they treated your kind
Edit: Bc some ppl can't tell, yes this is a joke.
They looked at one post from r/niceguys and put it in an AI
I concur
"uh..uh....nyaaah" so thought provoking.. so innovative.. someone get them an award for such miraculous writing and execution!!!
Someone bring the Oscar awards
Top quality scripts
If ever there were a case for execution, I’m not sure this is it. Maybe.
It certainly challenged my thoughts...
it look significantly stranger when typed out.
This felt like a 1st draft instead of the final script. How many years have they’ve been in production?
They said it was supposed to be released in 2019
Here we are 2 years later
What happened in between then?
Who knows
@@halodragonmaster Whoever does dialogue has clearly never been near another human before
@@PaintSplashProductions not for about a good 20 years.
Oh come on, respect the all women's writer's roo-
-Ohhhh that's the problem.
@@Ruldolphmaker It feels they were surrounded by 'Yes men'
Tell me you have no idea how to write male characters without telling me you have no idea how to write male characters.
This is legitimately how they view all men as.
To them, this IS perfection.
This is why, and no I will never call the show and anime, but I've heard a lot of sjw's talk about support female anime writers blah blah blah but to be honest with you, as someone who calls myself a feminist and an otaku, the most feminist anime I've watched and manga I've read were written by men, ironically, the stuff written by women, we're actually quite condescending towards women. It's almost like they had internalized misogyny or something. They hyper focused way too much on a roll of a woman and basically a lot of female tropes that just need to die off for goodness sakes, and I have to say, in comparison, evangelion is a whole heck of a lot more politically correct than this show by a long shot. It shows a humanized, non-toxic masculine male character, and authentic representation of a boy with actual complicated emotions who cries, and isn't a stereotype in any direction, and deals with the very real problem of daddy issues. It is vent art, and to be honest with you, while I love the basis of the plot, I really struggle to watch evangelion, just simply because especially if someone who's been sexually assaulted before, I just can't watch the poor thing go through several seasons of episodes living with a woman who's literally grooming him. If you don't know what I'm talking about, note like the first scene, where he has a photograph of the woman who's supposed to pick him up, and literally, misato has a photograph of her with handwritten notes on it pointing out her cleavage and everything, it was so disturbing. I've really feel bad for the poor kid, I know he's fictional, but that's why I can't watch it, I just feel too bad for him and I will always cringe at the female characters in that anime, I'm guessing it was reflective of something the creator of it went through, I'm assuming also how he sexualizes shinji's sexual abusers, I kind of wondered if the guy was maybe groomed by women growing up?? I don't know it seems very likely to me, either way, I feel really bad for both the writer as well as the fictional character he wrote that goes through all kinds of horrendous things. Either way though, evangelion has much better social representation than this show ever will
Edit: I was using voice to text, and how I said anime made Google think I said enemy
They don’t know how to write female character either
Nah fam they don't know how to write at all
“Hello fellow tweens! (smirks) My name is CHAD MANspread and I think girl = weak. I guess Rubicon here proved me wrong. Just this once though. I’m also a misogynist. Could you tell?”
Every girl in this series when a male character speaks: ua-cam.com/video/PKwI2zZXiRE/v-deo.html
Hold on, I can explain this scene just fine.
Aster starts the clip sincere, praising his crush. Then, he is told to take it back a notch. He does this through making a joke. His joke is producing an overly dramatic speech about his recent loss. But not realising that he should probably stop praising Rosemary, he leads the joke straight into continuing the praise, although in a less aggressive manner.
This all characterises him as someone who:
-Is passionate for what he loves (Hence the praise, and hence why he is impossible to derail from it)
-Is socially blind (Since he clearly can't read the room)
-Is not bothered by trivial failure (Since he jokes about a recent loss)
-Is somewhat intelligent (Since he can come up with a joke in about a second)
-Tries being considerate (Since he does reduce the intensity of the praise, even if he doesn't stop)
Then the writers realise that "softboy with Asperger's" is too likeable and turn him into a stuck-up prick, thereby destroying 4 of the 5 traits established in the same scene.
I couldn't tell without the context of seeing more of the show if he was antagonistic towards her and was being sarcastic or if he fancied the pants off her and was managing to make a complete fool of himself while trying to praise her. But yeah acting like he did something seriously wrong by doing so was a bit weird. No blood was spilled. Not if the adult then followed that up with a conversation about how to speak to someone you are crushing on without antagonising them - that might be helpful - but I suspect a show like this isn't going to take the show's spotlight away from the protagonist to show such a conversation or even admit to his motivations and if they are positive or negative - they might not even care - they instead only care about how she feels about what he says not what he intended to say be it good or bad.
And? Why does he have to be likeable?
Yes Yes everything you just said was what I was thinking. I just couldn't put it into words but yeah they aren't establishing this character like what a human would act.
The change in tone and mood did not make sense here at all. They never tried to have him establish any reasoning of why he started acting like a stuck up prick. No asking of questions or trying to understand each other.
@@ieatbatteries7 why can't he be likable?
It's funny how the writer's of this show say that men can't write good female characters, yet somehow they managed to not only write the worst female characters imaginable, and make the male characters the most appealing part of the show 💀
Meanwhile much better shows with women are written by Men & Women! Really, the difference is talent in writing.
Ironic at Peak :)
Lmao , Slime boy feels like my Mindvoice but slightly bad
because i am clumsy man
sorry :(
Huge coincidence
When they’re only hired for their gender and not for their talent
for real like i can tell this guy is intended to be annoying or bad but all this clip has done has given me an interest in his character
"Wow, son, we need to have a word." Was exactly what I was thinking of saying to the writer when I watched this.
🤙 🤙 Determinism is Freedom 🤙 🤙
At this point, I’m sure even a bot could write better dialogue.
Bots writing stuff is already hilarious so
@@themostbritishpersonalive868 True
Dude I would recommend dugdug's battle royale video the story is a masterpeace made by bots
@@Alexanlite lol I just read the replies and saw another dougdoug reply.
ai dungeon already writes better stories
The animation does not suck even though the style is not my cup of tea, the rest is just bad, I wonder if a rewrite dub and I mean a Ghost Stories-level of departure from the original source could actually make this something bearable.
I would watch that.
Abridgers could probably make this 100x more enjoyable
SAO vs SAO Abridged will do this series justice
I want the violet one to be a screaming racist
Yeah the animation is ok. And if there were plushies, they would be really cute.
The women who wrote this have never held a real conversation with a real human male in their entire lives.
Edit: Watching this comment blow up over the last two days was pretty fun. Thanks guys and gals (:
I mean yeah weve seen them and their twitter accounts
they constantly hashtag kill all Men
A combo of their Twitter and make Real Medusa look like Fate Medusa...
Spent too much time hating on men instead of actually interacting with them.
have you seen their twitter account and what they posted?
@@anasbakhit4303 Yeah it's in the video. I was just struck with the realization that these women (and trans men I guess) are basically the inverse of the stereotype of the nerdy socially inept dude that never talks to girls. It made me realize that getting no attention from the opposite sex is just as unhealthy for women as it is for men.
I bet the black dude, took Aster inside and told him, "listen man, I was just putting up an act, there is no reason for you to be suffering and having a conversation with the world's most unintersting basic girls" *hugs him and cries*
If I'm not mistaken, I believe the person who wrote this was held at gunpoint
And had a rope around the neck,just in case.
Write 100% womans
No, maybe the person who voiced the lines but I’m 200% sure the writer is proud of herself
Nah it was just a wamen thinkin she was bein smart and shit.
@Lovely Lovely it was a man who wrote this.
These are the people who say that male writers can't write female characters, then write men like this.
It’s equality in the worst way possible lol
@@JPOG7TV Well, it turns out they can't write female characters either, so...
You saying there are no men in the world like blondie here?
@@burningmagyk4986 Yes.
@@enkelegy xD love it, well played.
If the writers of this show actually met a genuine mysogynist who had even a SLIVER of social awareness, he could probably convince them he was the greatest person on the planet.
That's true.
That's true.
No kidding, most [insert here]-ists hate in secret.
Many of them are even on their side
THE FUCKINH “wow son we need to have a word” AND THEN THE CUTOFF IS SO FUCKING FUNNY TO ME I HAVE BEEN GIGGLING AT IT FOR 30 MINUTES AND HIS VOICE IS SO BAD
LITERALLY I'VE BEEN OBSESSED WITH THIS CLIP FOR A YEAR
I like how uncreative aster’s “toxic masculinity” is. It’s so incredibly basic. What a one-note, token, stereotype character. Gotta have him be white, blonde haired, and blue eyed too. What revolutionary ground the writers are exploring here. It’s funny seeing them try to make cultural statements while simultaneously revealing their own prejudices.
that had "i hate men" writen all over lol.
I think a really good display of toxic masculinity was Sokka from Avatar: The Last Airbender
@@Nana-wi4gi Sokka was memorable lol how was he bad?!
@@JonkoSlunko What. I'm saying toxic masculinity was really portrayed well through him before he had his whole arc. He was sexist and had a skewed idea of what it meant to be a man. But it was never malicious and he genuinely cared about people.
@@Nana-wi4gi I see what you mean. He saw women as damsels and that he NEEDED to be strong to be a man, and not for an ego type of way but to prove himself as a person
"Noo AI cannot replace our jobs!"
The job about to be replaced:
I feel like 9 seasons of AI generated High Guardian Spice would be better than the one we have now 😭
@@Deadflower019Because then it can just rip tropes and shit from actual anime instead of being a boring Cartoon Network reject
It reads like a greentext story that you would feel compelled to respond to with "and then everyone clapped".
"You guys should have seen this girl."
"go away."
oscar-worthy dialouge.
You speak the funnies kind stranger.
@@PeekinBlyne Thank you kindly ✨
“HAHAHA!”
That line is what really made the dialogue clunky for me
tbh i thought this was just an abridged version just because of that
My dialogues whenever someone tries talking to me:
I actually like aster. He could’ve been a cool character if the writers didn’t use him to convey a “men bad and dumb” message
he doesn't look that cool
@@aeioouui They didn't ask
@@primrose5925 ok?
@@primrose5925 wut
@@b-six-twelve ????
The ending truly reads like the classic "and then everyone clapped" stories from 2010s Tumblr. It really shouls have stayed there...
This kinda makes NPC dialog from The Elder Scrolls sound like absolute poets
Especially oblivion
It's like listening to a Tunblr fan-dub audio
Or any '96 Anime with English only dubs.
Either way it's unreal.
Some fandubs are better than this
Black man calling him “son” is the best part of the scene. It feels genuine. Like he’s just thinking “What the hell is this kid saying? Did a crack addict override his brain?” Black man best character.
My white son, my white son, now each day is seeming really wonky
Don’t even remember sleeping with that lady but I did
It kinda looks bad when you parade your group of writers composed 100% of women as some kind of statement against the status quo, and then proceed to put out this kind of uncomfortably robotic dialogue between equally uninspired characters.
Yeah, as a non binary person who actually wants to write stories this feels insulting.
I feel as if an all woman writing team is as bad as an all man writing team. You need all kinds of people to add their own input
In all honesty any show is destined to fail when its main selling point is 100% of any gender. Gender doesnt amplify a skill or quality since even the worst at everything can be male or female. Gender doesnt matter and all it does it take the fun out of it.
they don’t seem to understand how normalizing things works, maybe if they actually looked and hired good female writers instead of just any woman who came by and seemed nice to them, and then didn’t mention that their writers were all women (instead of bringing everyone’s attention to it as a selling point, which is literally the opposite of normalizing something) then we would all be fans of this show. maybe.
@@bigdingus9333 Or dont have a writing team at all. Doing it alone seems better bc you always are bound to disagree with people on a matter and it just possibly makes the story inconsistent. Animanga Industry BEEN doing that
Meanwhile here I am, pouring my heart and soul into my fanfiction writing and not getting paid shit for it. Justice is a lie in this world.
0:13
Where’s his sword go?
They literally had a likeable character for about 5 seconds
It's hilarious how the character that they wrote to be extremely obnoxious and awful is one of the few characters that I actually kind of tolerate.
I miss 40 second ago when I didn’t know this show existed
One of the things I remember most about an instructional book about drawing manga is that "hair grows; it's not just plonked on." I've played flash Avatar creators with less plonked-on hairstyles.
Alright everybody, new head cannon. Everyone on the show is an actor in a purposely bad show.
And Aster is actually a sweet “himbo” like some comments are saying he could’ve been. Just like everyone playing a shit character here is actually a decent, realistic human being behind the scenes.
This is my AU.
Whaddya mean "AU"? It's canon.
I like this au and this au has now became a headcannon
My headcanon/theory is Aster is forcing himself to be rude towards women because if he does, an interdimensional entity called The Writer punishes him and swallows the whole HGS universe, thus ending it
I love this take
His cartoony over the top way of being so on the nose makes it sound like he knows exactly how dumb the character is but he's playing it up for laughs. Intentionally or unintentionally, I find his performance pretty enjoyable here.
These line reads don't sound like they were from the same conversation. It almost sounds like the showrunners used sentence mixing to splice together a scene.
"wow, son" he says to sexist Link
"It's been fun, aster, but aaugh-eaauughh~uaghh-ueh-nyeahh." GIRL JUST HAD A STROKE -
Incase you forgot
This is supposed to be an anime
I've noticed that the writers don't understand what makes a "bigoted" character the way they are.
I'm assuming this is because they don't understand the thought process behind said character, and simply create them out of spite.
They seem to understand that their enemies are irrational, but they don't want to understand *_why_* they are.
Is Aster like this because he is:
Having self-esteem issues?
Hiding his true self?
Chasing "the high" of being dominant?
Seeking attention and validation?
You can't see these flaws in Aster's character, which is why his dialogue comes of as fake.
Simply put; unreliable narrator.
This story from Aster's perspective could be phenomenal.
Well said.
Nothing was out of place until, "WAO. SUN. WE NEED TO HAVA WURD."
Until that point, I was like "ok it's just generic current year Cartoon Network dialogue"
But then this line happened and half my brain got paralyzed
it reminds me of that gillette commercial where the black guy paused the white guy from looking at a female
@@professorpenne9962 I remember that one.
@@teneleven2818 my brain had thrown that out with the trash, but now it's back in there
I couldn't hold it together when he said "SON, we need to have a WORD" 😂
This makes my Cs in English look like A+
“WOW! Son, we need to have a word” one hundred percent natural dialogue
Fun Fact: One of the writers on this show (Kate Leth) has a history of being racist and transphobic.
Edit: This is a TLDR taken from a document detailing of her past if anyone is curious
TL;DR: Kate Leth created a facebook group for “women in comics” (that later added the inclusion of non-binary people) called the Valkyries. The space was criticised for not being inclusive toward POC and non-binary members. She ultimately left the group after being criticized but retained control of the group and would not let remaining admins make any adjustments.
She has had history of exclusionary transphobic and racist behavior toward other comics creators. She also has a pattern of giving empty apologies when criticized for her actions, deleting her posts, deflecting blame without taking accountability and “taking a break” then returning once things have blown over.
Kate also has a history of centering herself in all situations and often does not support specific communities until she can see herself within said community.
Yep, yep, yep
I honestly don't care about that, the show is just not good
Ironic
@@Eking-su3tr I mean we COULD use this to cancel her and the show, so there is that...
She also openly hates men and regularly calls for the deplatforming of male creators and the death of men to the point that she has Merch with "Kill all men" on the front.
I love this show, in a it's so bad it's good.
This feels like my level of writing. And yes, I just insulted myself, but I never thought of myself as amazing or talented at many things so I consider comparing something to me to be an insult.
In all honesty, I think anyone with a decent mindset that isn't rotten from the inside out with misandrist feminism could write a better script.
This comment alone is way more funny and self aware than this entire show lmao
I bet you could've written a better script
@@jujuberrie better script? Maybe. Great script? Nah
Well, the sheer fact you see this as utter dreck and you also compare it to yourself shows you have growth potential and growth development. The writers on this are not that.
To me, this should've been on CN, not CR. Gives off Steven universe/ netflix she-ra/ voltron/ "I am not starfire" vibes if all were thrown in a blender and left on for a week and rotted.
Literally the level of an average fanfiction except its not even as interesting as the latter.
"EH, UH, NYAA"
Sounds like a wattpad fanfic
I feel like my opinion needs to be shared here:
I didn't care for their initial trailer talking about how "inclusive" their writing team was, but I was still really excited for this show. I say this because I am a lesbian and it feels like the writing team was trying to partly speak to people like me in the trailer. I know that trailer turned many off of you away from it, and I don't blame you. It made me uncomfortable too.
what. the fuck. is this?
I've seen so many shitty clips from this show. The dialogue is shit, the art style is terrible when animated (and gives me She-ra flashbacks *shudders*), and the animation itself is so cheap. What is this garbage? I don't think I'm going to even give this show a chance now lmao
I say "lmao" but I am legitimately sad.
Honestly she ra is better
@@samuelhadjaissa5201 Yeah atleast there were good episodes and characters and that there was effort in it
They knew that it was garbage so they went with the 'inclusive' aspects of the show since that's the only thing they had to offer
@@kashen1147 like I don't hate High guardian spice like everyone else, its just at best average
The only problem is that they were speaking for you, not to you. That’s why even for the supposed demographic, this is disappointing. The only people this show is for are the types who spend their entire days on twitter obsessing over people they’re too narrow-minded to be tolerant of. Like, this has no merits as entertainment, only as a cheap attempt at bragging rights.
Go awa-
Hahahahah
Ma'am she wasn't even done
The blond dude is the only character with a crumb of personality
Even though he doesn't talk like an actual person. Lol
@@MrPonytronand that says a lot about the show
I'm not gonna lie, there is ONE line in this entire scene that is actually compelling.
When he shifts vocal tone, right at the start of that line when he does a little inflection and gesture with putting his fist over his mouth and extremely disingenuously goes on to claim to have been very moved.
Really nailed that exact tone, phrasing and pace for the delivery.
It lasted only from "that I have a lot to learn, *pause* about myself."
Immediately after that line, it went back to being nonsensically paced and poorly written, but that one moment was solid.
I refuse to believe an actual human being wrote this show’s dialogue
They're not humans..
They're *Feminists* ...
@@St0pLookingAtMyProfile feminazis*
@@HBIsBlessed tru
He's so dramatic it's honestly hilarious. Like why make him needlessly sexist when he could have been a perfectly funny himbo? Would have been a better take on the Mr. Perfect trope. Smh.
And why does the black dudes head move like that when speaking, like that's not what people do when they say stuff like that-
"shes just a regular girl, nothing to notice" that must be one of the worst lines i have ever heard in my life, that is some sentence you might find in an essay about the series but not the series itself
These characters all look like they were made from Christopher Hart's 'How To Draw Anime/Manga' guide books.
Agreed
„Go away“
„Hee-ha-hya-hya“
I wasn't even focused on what they were saying because the lip syncing feels wrong to me and I ended up observing that instead
Can we just all take a moment to say that the voice actors are trying WAY HARDER than anyone thought possible.
"it's been fun but uh, yeah"
Now I feel good about my own writing, thanks!
When you say that I genuinely believe the AI that made _Harry Potter and a Portrait of What Appears to Be a Pile Of Ash_ was the only member of this show's writing team.
Nah, the AI wrote better dialogue than this
I like how he was legitimately complimenting her and she got mad and called him a name and then he insults her back and then he got in triuoble for doing absolutely nothing wrong in the first place lmaoooo
I thought he was being sarcastic and she didn’t like that. So he called her stuck-up for not understanding it was a joke, but the comments are talking about toxic masculinity. Can someone explain?
I want to know too. The only thing I can inference is that blond guy is just misogynistic are whatever else describes him. Thing is, his personality and portrayal is done poorly.
It's the writers pathetic attempt to portray anyone as male/straight/cis/white/etc as some dumb bad nasty "grrrr😠".
The writers are openly prejudiced against any majority and only care about woke points, this is their attempt to write a depiction of their nonsensical understanding of a "typical" stereotype of a man, they're twitter/Tumblr feminists who are so desperate to seem progressive that they're actively regressive being heavily misandrist and even being transphobic to their own friends if it gives them a chance to go on about "Yaya! Girlpower ecks dee XD!" and how much they hate men.
The most hypocritical nonsense around, prime example of that particular brand of the bad side of the far left.
Honestly the amount of prejudice is already awful no matter who it's from but they're pretending to be progressive heroes at the same time, which is just saddening.
@@_-Lx-_ And the cast is all women right?
@@waluigihentailover6926 all if them are
Yeah I was wondering the same thing. The only unnatural thing is the last line from the teacher. Otherwise this just sounds like a normal scene, maybe giving like abridged vibes since it seems like it’s not serious and being satirical of the concept “reformed sexist”. Then again, I haven’t watched the show.
Someone was paid to write this...just let that sink in
"This dialogue was written by an actual person."
That can literally go for any line in the Mister Spiff series. Just saying.
This dialogue sounds like if it was put together with duct tape.
How tf do you make a line as simple as "son we need to have a word" be delivered so damn TERRIBLY
IT DOESN'T SEEM HUMANLY POSSIBLE BUT HERE WE ARE.
Why did I have to dirty my video history watching this exactly?
Everyone talks about the dialogue, but I'm just wondering where his sword went.
Maybe he has one of those pocket dimension chests on his back
Where the sun don't shine
In the huge void that is his ego
We don't talk about the sword 🗿
WOW son we need to have a word makes me cry laugh to this day
bruh this is the equivalent when men write women characters only for fanservice
So we finally get an all female writing crew, and it’s as bad as everyone stereotyped it would be.
Which is kinda sad but well, can't say I expected otherwise
That's kinda doing a disservice. There are many great female writers who have created amazing stories. THESE women however are not even of the same talent as them.
@@-o-dq7nd And now the talented female writers may have trouble finding jobs bc these losers probably scared everyone away from counting on female writers.
Wasn't Sailor Moon an all female writing crew?
@@microwave8931 Yes. Studio Clamp.
"go away."
"AHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHHAHHAHHAAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAH"
Area 51 called they want their aliens back
This show was so bad, I'm finding that even pirate anime sites aren't pirating it. XD
Oof xD
They have standards
It's not an anime so...
Pirates have morals codes and obtain high value stuff this shit isn't vulnerable enough
I got this for free and I still feel ripped off.
what are any of them even saying i literally cant process this
This show’s dialogue was written by an AI.
No, it was written by a neon-haired no-talent hack who openly fantasizes about indiscriminately slaughtering men for being men
@@Mnemoniforma9.00 yep pretty much🥱☕️
AI pulls out better stuff than this.
Can't have been. AI's are supposedly super racist/sexist because they won't tow the party line. Always telling SJWs what they don't want to hear.
Nah, Ai's will say or do whatever they want in a chaotic and random matter, which may even be funny. This is too restricted to what it can or not can do.
Sounds like something I'd put on a test if I had a little bit of time to write a dialogue and a headache
I feel like they changed topics almost every sentence
“Huh, should’ve known you were stuck up.”
In contrast with the rest of the scene, this one line delivery sounded pretty good. Not the actual line in context or anything, just the voice actor’s performance. Something decent is so out of place I woke up for a second.
It does sort of feel like a more natural response.
@@Aevum13th In comparison to the "sexist/discriminatory" lines that were so bland I thought, "Wow, he's pretty horrible with names... and the comment of cute must be pretty unintentional cause of how awkward he seeems". Like, I didn't realize he was supposed to be... a character that wasn't just awkward and bored. And forgetful (or obsessed with rutabaga, the vegetable)
It was the only line the voice actor actually agreed with
“Ahh… ehhh- nyahhh…”
Plot twist, it wasn't in the script, he just said it to the script writers and the animators kept it in
The escalation of this scene is so damn weird. First you get Rosemary's weird groaning line, then you get Aster's response about her being stuck-up which, contextually, seems to have no easing into it. And then Rosemary growls? And the way the professor abruptly steps in? It's so unnatural. The pacing of their conversation and emotions is all off.
Honestly, I thought maybe it was because of the lack of context.
@@blueflare3848 context couldn't fix the pacing here 😭
@@Deadflower019
It could actually, if they made it so that it was all just acting for a theater story.
That way, this whole cringe stuff wouldn't be cringe anymore because it's just all acting.
@@MirrorOfEmotions High guardian spice was all a fever dream
@@MirrorOfEmotionsSo like the stage play episode of Spectacular Spider-Man? Yeah, I could see that working.
"Son, we need to have a word."
"This is a portal to a different series. don't know how good it is, but it's gotta be better than this--go! There's no time, save yourself!"
This is how albedo came to the world of tevyat
The good ending
@@spiritpyros albedo's past is more tragic than we knew
And then the blond guy turn into parsee
I was thinking more for him being his dad that dude's pretty white
“Should’ve known you were stuck-up” sounds like it was just the actor caught on a hot mic but the writers were just too stupid to realize that he was insulting them and not ad-libbing a line 😂
💀 I would have had a few choice words that were a lot worse than “stuck-up”.
Wow son, we need to have a word. You're terrible at insulting people you need to step up your game.
Wow thanks Teach, I will
wait that was supposed to be an insult?
@@solarflames7721 I thought it was supposed to be the feminist cliche of the guy trying to hit on the girl only when she rejects his advances he gets mad and calls her a B!txh. She kinda is though
wait that was meant to be an insult?
I don't know at which point I was suppose to feel offended
0:03 Why does she even laugh 💀
laughing at script on accident
Honestly, I would be laughing too due to the awkwardness, lol
It’s soooo jarring haha
“Son we need to have a word”
“This is a girl’s school. We sent you here as a joke.”
lmao
I’m sorry, but his voice when saying we need to have a word is killing me
I love how I read this in darth Vader’s voice with your profile pic it this time of 2021
was so hard for him just to say "young man, we need to talk"?,
besides what kind of teacher say something like that?
@@tsubasasupremo One who’s written by a chick who thinks African Americans still talk like the 70s, ya dig?