Guys.. Guys.. The spoiler in the title is about the story spoiler and NOT that Kel'thuzad is in the game. That has been known for months and this questline has been on youtube for a long time. And every single fan site has been covering this for a long time lol. and Wowhead etc. has not been trying to hide these spoilers. They have Kel'thuzad in multiple articles. However if you legit got spoiled, I'm sorry but sadly I can't change that :/ Shadowlands Login Screen: ua-cam.com/video/RYFIy4vK8LE/v-deo.html The Sins of Kael'thas Sunstrider: ua-cam.com/video/Sq7gsbyGJM4/v-deo.html Follow my twitter: twitter.com/LeystTv Join our Discord: discord.gg/3jHzQWB
The thing is we can avoid fan sites if we don't want spoilers but can't really avoid youtube recommended videos. I've had a few pop up from you now that have named dropped big characters that I would consider spoilers. It hasn't phased me too much but it could suck more for others who want everything to be revealed in-game.
@@UberNoober23 You pretty much have to avoid the internet if you want to avoid spoilers :) Naming Kel'thuzad after months and months later I wouldnt really call a spoiler. That's like talking about harry potter 10 years after its out and calling it a spoiler :p everything has been spoiled at this point :))
@@LeystTV I respectfully disagree. The expansion isn't out yet, let alone been out for 10 years. The fact is people are only now learning about this through your video title and not seeing it in game. This isn't something that everyone knows as you can clearly see by the responses you are getting. I have been pretty frequently browsing wowhead and they do a pretty good job of limiting spoilers by hiding the information inside the post rather than in the name, and it's the same for youtube as well. Like I said earlier this was something I would have preferred to see in game but didn't get the chance to. You can call it what you want really but at the end of the day it's going to disappoint some people, myself being one of them.
I still Prefer Darion's call. "Soldiers of the Scourge, Death Knight's of Acherus, Minions of the Darkness; here the call of the Highlord! Rise! The sky turns red with the blood of the fallen. The Lich King watches over us minions. Leave only ashes and misery in your destructive wake!
@@121WoWfreak Same here. Hous old VA fit the character perfectly. I have such nostalgia for him going into the Ebon Hold and bothering him. His new VA just seems off.
@@itouchbuttons Exactly, wow developers are running out of ideas and they use nostalgia to bring back and to keep players. Just look to wow classic and now this expansion, filled with a lot of old wow characters... Disappointing
@@mariofernandezramirez5603 No lol are you dumb? The story revolves around the afterlife it's not running out of ideas it's being smart with the story...this isn't anything new with kael'tas the sunstrider coming back even during the burning crusade....
This feels really hollow and underwhelming. They bring back all these characters, but it doesn't feel meaningful in any way. It doesn't even feel like Kel'Thuzad. And Kael is all over the place.
@@LeystTV Kel'Thuzad wasn't even supposed to be dead. His phylactery was never found. Also, if he did die and wound up in the Shadowlands, how can he be a lich? His soul would be in human form, wouldn't it?
"Hollow and underwhelming" describes Blizzard for the past few years. The original talent that created these long-lasting IP's like Warcraft and Diablo have all left the company. Now they're just milking the IP's bone dry for all they're worth until the company collapses.
Whose Fault is Sunwell Kel'Thuzad->Arthas->Lich King->Jailer and Sylvanas sided Jailer or Did she? I don't think she changed since death still vengeful banshee. she is going overthrow jailer for Quel thalas as Evil.
@@kyleellis9177 Because he knew Arthas was also going to join the Lich King and resurrect him. I find it really hard to believe that Kel'thuzad would be on board with anything to do with the Jailor or Sylvanas. Kel'thuzad is all about being pragmatic and sensible. I guess that's not in his personality from WoW, but that's really lame.
I really miss his calm and sinister tone back in Warcraft 3. Now he really acts like a villain from a cartoon. More likely, a deep modified voice of Skeletor.
all these years people speculating about KT and how he did a 4D chess play in nax, to simply bring him back as a random jobber, with a cartoon villain voice and bleak motivation...the very same character that was an mastermind in W3 and was the most loyal one for the will of the LK and the undead scourge turned into a goon for this new jailer...thx blizz i really needed that ps: did i mention that this is the same guy that hated sylvanas to his very core because she always acted against the will of the scourge and now is siding with her new club?
Remember N'zoth and Nyalotha? Azshara and Nazjatar's backyard? Bolvar the Lich King? It shouldn't be surprising anymore with Danuser completely and entirely fucking up the story to spite everyone who's been waiting on all these decade old build ups.
@Wonder of U original voice actor* i corrected for you genius, and it sounds bad, it doesn't matter if it is the same person or not if the people who records don't give AF
@@Uouttooo Maiev, Tyrande, Malfurion, Shandris, Muradin, Thrall, Nazgrel, Garthok, Rexxar, Gazlowe, Baine, Vol'jin, Rok'han, Kel'thuzad, Sylvanas. (Not including generic WC3 names that became charactes) Who else did I miss?
F for Kel'Thuzad, He ain't the loyal homie we once knew in Wc3. He was my second favorite character in Wc3, first being Sylvannas. Shame what blizzard has done to them, but you cant have nice things forever. He had a badass, wise, sinnister voice in wc3. Now he sounds like a budget protagonist.
You have to keep in mind it's still WIP those voice (i hope) may be placeholders for better ones. Also yeah Sylvanas' story has taken a route i never thought. In Wc3 she was one of my favorites too,but blizz used her for plot becouse they needed an evil leader and they already used orcs, tauren and night elves are peacefull,Humans and worgen have Anduin and genn and they want peace, and nobody would take an expansion where the main villian is a Gnome/Goblin/Panda. SO only evil leader could be Sylvanas and the edgy undead.
Original Kel'Thuzad: wise, cunning, reserved, always keeping his cool because he is assured of his victory (and for good reasons), has no need for senseless bravado -Fanfic- New Lore Kel'Thuzad: MUAHAHAHA, SO YOU HAVE COME!!! OHHH, HOW IS THE SUNWELL, TEEHEE!! *ded* Original Kael'Thas: wise, eternally loyal to his subjects and those who aid him, compassionate, wants nothing but peace -Fanfic- New Lore Kael'Thas: GREED, DEMONS, AHAHAHAHA, SUFFER!!!! Original Zul'Jin: wise, cunning, absolutely fucking badass troll who is the literal personification of "AMANI NEVAH DIE!", keeping his hand and eye from healing to become a symbol of vengeance for his people -Fanfic- New Lore Zul'Jin: Zul'Who? oh, yeah, that one random soul in Revendreth? What of him? Man, fuck Blizzard _writers_ . Bleh, it took a lot of willpower to even call them that after they butcher one incredibly written character after the other. Wow has no lore anymore.
I’m more happy seeing Vashj and Kael’thas reunited than seeing Kel’thuzad. 😁🤣 I really find Kael’s role interesting here and I kinda like his voice in this expansion, although it didn’t sound like his old voice, he’s like an arrogant yet obedient boy lmao.
I find it Ironic that, in life, and prior to killing Arthus, Shylvannas was against Kel'Thuzad, but now they both work for the jailer. It would also be funny if Arthus would be against the Jailer as that would mean Kel'Thuzad and Arthus are enemies again.
@@1MultShot The fact that a key common amongst the returning characters is redemption, if Arthus does return, I believe there will be some redemption for him.
@@TheDerek14 according to one of blizzard interview, we will get to interact Arthas in Shadowland but he doesn't have any major role or story in this expansion 😒
Sigh look at how they murder my boy Where's the archlich that held off a continent before a bunch marysue came and wreck his place blasting new age music
What I dont understand from Shadowlands; Keal'thas became Wretched by the end of Burning Crusade. Here in shadowlands we see him in full glory. Kel'Thuzad Became a Lich. Here in Shadowlands; Still a Lich.
Shadowlands is such a weird concept. The fact that everyone who died just came back; so what do people do if they died in shadowlands? This just seems like Blizzard ran out of story to tell and now they’re trying to bring back fan-favorites to lure people back.
When they die in shadowlands their anima is united with the land itself and the person cease to exist. That does not apply to you as a player though as your soul is bound to the titan Azeroth and not the shadowlands.
@@aedivian so just like when they said in the old lore if you died your soul went to the twisting nether? I can't wait until 3 expansions from now when we go to the shadowierlands and if you die in the shadowlands you go there.
@Wonder of U In SL we have: literally every single dead character from a previous expansion that isn't in the Maw. WoTLK, an undead themed expansion, we had: some zombie bosses. yeah, not exactly the same. nice try though.
Thanks for the spoiler about Kel’thuzad being in the game. Could’ve just had the title be “Venthyr final chapter” but nope gotta squeeze those extra views and screw over people trying to avoid spoilers.
that was spoiled months ago by everyone else, wowhead, mmo-c, everyone else on youtube etc. and im far from trying “squeeze” viewers. And if you actually knew my channel you would know that my friend :)
@@LeystTV Since you've needed to pin a post to say otherwise, it's pretty clear that you've just spoiled it for a bunch of people by putting it in the TITLE (including myself). So next time try to be a little considerate of people trying to avoid spoilers :)
Soooo here is a theory: What if KT is working WITH the jailor in order to SAVE ARTHAS? everyone who played wc3 knows how loyal he is to arthas and with arthas being in the maw... you know where it goes from here🤔🤔
he wasn't this loyal to arthas. He is just smart enough to play along. He was probably in touch with the jailer even before arthas became the LK... since he died, probably going into the maw... to finally comeback. If the jailer ordered him to carefully serve Arthas, he will do. He always said he was following bigger plans... yeah it could have been the LK thing like "you killed me but i knew what would come...blahblahblah..."... but it could also been this^^ aka "you killed me, but i knew you would serve death...more than you think...wink wink".
@@GniinG If u do some research you'll find out that killing a lich isn't as easy as just destroying the body and KT is pretty loyal to arthas as arthas calls him his only true friend so i don't think he would switch to the jailors side just for some extra power
@@sethadadk9771 i dont see the point with the lich... since... when arthas killed him the first time... he... wasnt a lich yet ? and exactly... ARTHAS calls him his only true friend... not the other way around... helloooooo. And i didn't said he switched side just for power... but he always was on the jailer side, from the beggining, and that it was all a master plan, and he played his role.
I was hoping more to see Kel'Thuzad searching to find Arthas soul since it was his loyal servant, and for Arthas, his (onlly) friend. Traying to rescue him, even if it wasn't the Arthas he know, showing his loyalti to his king.
Why do liches exist in the 'afterlife'? Like...liches were mortals, humans or whatnot at their origin, their souls should be returned to normal, no? Why do they retain that form from azeroth?
Given the reunion of old characters, I have but one questions that I’m not sure I want to know the answer to... Do dead old gods go to the Shadowlands..?
@@gaminginhdmax3854 Y'Shaarj died, so he might be. but given that we just fought 2 old gods in bfa I doubt blizzard would throw another one at us in such a short amount of time. and Im not sure if we killed G'huun, but he is technically an old god.
@@lordstarscreamy329 seems reasonable to assume that old gods either disappear or their essence goes somewhere after death. Even demons have this with the twisting nether. I would assume the old gods just return to the void though
She is the leader of the house of rituals (aka the necromancer house). There are 5 margraves and they lead one of the houses. She is basically the equivalent of drama and co, a military leader of the realm
Meanwhile us night fae in our gay forest "CHAMPION LOOK, BLACK FAIRIES ARE ATTACKING THE BLUE FAIRIES! STOP THEM!" "OH AND YSERA AND BWONSAMDI ARE HERE TOO!" Ysera: *spits on some people* "RIDE ME CHAMPION!" The queen: "You saved us, you are a great ally, I now declare you the guardian of the forest" Me: "My queen, to be honest, I thought I was on an LSD trip the whole time"
You can basically feel the desperation radiating through the screen with every line, look we brought back all those characters although noneo f them act or behave like they should, don´t you want to give us your money again? Blizzards writing has been shit, but now they even desecrate the storylines that were actually good
@Wonder of U wall of text? you are saying that I am tyhe guy who wrote that and this is another "my" account? because if you think so you are giga wrong, I just expressed my opinion which is that I think that it sucks.
they're not vampires, they're gargoyles, hence they turn into stone. Some mythologies describe gargoyles with legs, arms and wings, some have only legs and wings, just like theres dragons with arms, and dragons without arms.
Interested to see the finished cinematic for Kel'Thuzad's "defeat." Say what you will about the story and gameplay, but Blizzard's cinematics are 99% incredible (minus the LOTR/N'Zoth ending).
Seeing our "Champion" kamehameha N'zoth into oblivion after Magni begged us to remember that we're a CHAMPION OF AZEROTH to break the mind control was the most embarrassing thing I've ever watched in my life.
@@j.l.4054 Well at least we know Blizzard likes DBZ a lot (like Kerrigan/Narud in Starcarft II)...But on the main point, maybe would've been interesting to have a cinematic of flashbacks of everything N'Zoth helped create/destroy (Deathwing, Emerald Nightmare), to flesh out the in-game lore. On the gameplay...there's been enough of that expansion so glad to move on to Shadowlands.
I dont know how they could've allowed the ''confrontation'' to be built like that. There is no meaning in it, everyone just rushing all around. You want to build it with some excitement? Have Kel and Kael fight 1v1 while you do some small tasks around the necropolis, I mean THEY are supposed to be the legendary characters, right?! Blizz now has built the ''legendary champion'', a player who can stand in kel'thuzads ice blast ( OR let Kel be fooled by mere mirror images 5:30) without blinking an eye, just spamming spells. I can say from farming mounts in old raids just running them through, I get the same feeling watching the new content. There is nothing in it, well the old raids have the thrill of the possible mount loot but that only lasts for one rightclick.
I can't fucking wait for the pre patch... Pls Blizzard don't let us wait any longer. And after the release of the pre patch : I can't wait for shadowlands 😂
Why does everyone still have access to their powers? We know that the living essences don't exist in the Shadowlands. This has been stated in the Bastion story line when they tell you that the Light and Void don't have influence over the Shadowlands.. So why can Kael'Thas still use Arcane, and Kel'Thuzad still use Death magic? If those forces don't have a presence in the Shadowlands, how do they have a presence in the Shadowlands? It doesn't make any sense.
@@LeystTV Realistically, the way it's been re-imagined in Chronicle, is that these forces are kind of like "The Force". They blanket everything in existence. They all exist in all space at once within their realm. (Ie. The living universe.) And people can simply tap into the energy around them and manipulate it. Druids do this when they manipulate the weather. Malygos was doing this when he was siphoning the Arcane energy through the surge needles and feeding it into the Occulus. It's not a power that's inside someone. It's an external force that people have the ability to see and touch. Those that are attuned to the Light can see and feel it's presence in the universe, and can touch it to manipulate it to heal or damage. Mages can see the energy of "Arcane" and use it to cast fireballs, or teleport. But if those essences don't exist in the Shadowlands, it doesn't make sense that anyone could use their powers. Because it's not THEIR power that's inside them. It's an external force.
@@Saimeren This bothers me too. But maybe it's because the shadowlands are open to the mortal world now, so all the forces you mention are now present there as well
@@Saimeren It also could be that because Shadowlands lacks of death matter that keeps shadowlands together, it may cause the world to get "influenced and corrupted" by other significant elements.
@@Porkey798 Maybe, but it kind of seems like Kel'Thuzad was using his powers before we got there. It's also weird that the Kyrians wouldn't have noticed the difference when they say that the Light and Void don't exist in the Shadowlands.
after he is stuck in the air, relog, you will be on the platform. Talk to the npc again and he will fly right when he goes up in the air leave him by clicking on the arrow that will make a copy of him that will follow you. Once you have 1 copy talk to the other npc on the right and gg 😁 let me know if this helps
@@LeystTV I was joking, i think they are the same, but the voices in WarCraft 3 are so smooth, now they just made every bad guys voice too grouchy, or deep, or both
when he gets stuck in the air relog, then u will be on the platform, then after that talk to him again and right after click the arrow to leave then talk to him again and gg :p let me know if that work
@@LeystTV At first it was just producing duplicates of Dreven -- but then it worked after a few times, though I did have a dup Dreven following me around until final phase lol Thanks!
@Wonder of U I think most people will understand that i mean he sounds nothing like how he sounds in wc3. Same voice actor or not. I think you knew that is what I meant. I think you are just a weak little beta male who is looking for any sort of jabs to dish out on the internet.
Ok so... they bring back the most fucked up characters like Vashj and Kael'thas as good guys, but they turn Kel'thuzad into a pointless villain again, which means Arthas would also be a pointless villain because Kel'thuzad is Arthas's most loyal servant. Blizzard is just playing TBC favoritism, i'm sick of them ruining my favorite chars from War3, i might actually quit the game, i'm not feeling any type of connection with the story anymore.
Kel’thuzads model was datamined about 6 months ago. so if someone didnt live under a rock they know he is in shadowlands :) the spoiler is what happens and what they talk about and not so much that kel’thuzad is in the game again since that got spoiled 6 months ago like I said :))
@@LeystTV "confronting, during the venthyr campaign" Now people know where and when to look for him thanks. No surprise there. "living under a rock" - in the case where you live and breathe shadowlands/wow yea sure. Anything not publicly shown by blizzard or is obtainable by all players is a spoiler and he is not shown as far as I can tell in any official Blizzard capacity. It is like me spoiling the the ending of your favorite TV-show by wearing a shirt that gives away part of the ending plot and me telling you, the script was leaked 5 months ago and you should have read it.
Wow is still the best mmo. It could be a legend but blizzard is afraid to take risks. It's amazing how every npc is so well designed, with dialogue lines and unique abilities. Shame it's not challenging so we can feel more entertained. But anyway, i think shadowlands will be a hit
This was really anti-climactic and bland, I'm ashamed of myself for having so many expectations. I was really convinced that the quest was Kael'Thas going rogue with the aid of the player to seek vengeance on Kel'thuzad and in the end you actually played into Prince Renathal's plan all along. In truth you mob up with other characters turned "good" and face off Kel'thuzad that got turned into one of those comic book villains that doesn't shut up about how everyone's doomed and that there's no stopping the inevitable.
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Guys.. Guys.. The spoiler in the title is about the story spoiler and NOT that Kel'thuzad is in the game. That has been known for months and this questline has been on youtube for a long time. And every single fan site has been covering this for a long time lol. and Wowhead etc. has not been trying to hide these spoilers. They have Kel'thuzad in multiple articles. However if you legit got spoiled, I'm sorry but sadly I can't change that :/
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The thing is we can avoid fan sites if we don't want spoilers but can't really avoid youtube recommended videos. I've had a few pop up from you now that have named dropped big characters that I would consider spoilers. It hasn't phased me too much but it could suck more for others who want everything to be revealed in-game.
@@UberNoober23 You pretty much have to avoid the internet if you want to avoid spoilers :) Naming Kel'thuzad after months and months later I wouldnt really call a spoiler. That's like talking about harry potter 10 years after its out and calling it a spoiler :p everything has been spoiled at this point :))
So did we kill him? Or did he just escaped?
I didn't knew and got this randomly on my recommended
@@LeystTV I respectfully disagree. The expansion isn't out yet, let alone been out for 10 years. The fact is people are only now learning about this through your video title and not seeing it in game. This isn't something that everyone knows as you can clearly see by the responses you are getting.
I have been pretty frequently browsing wowhead and they do a pretty good job of limiting spoilers by hiding the information inside the post rather than in the name, and it's the same for youtube as well.
Like I said earlier this was something I would have preferred to see in game but didn't get the chance to. You can call it what you want really but at the end of the day it's going to disappoint some people, myself being one of them.
Horde and alliance: how many times do we have to teach you this lesson old man
Kel’thuzad: ( laughs in lich)
"Minions! Servants! Soldiers of the cold dark! Obey the call of Kel'Thuzad!"
Obeeey :D :D
I still Prefer Darion's call.
"Soldiers of the Scourge, Death Knight's of Acherus, Minions of the Darkness; here the call of the Highlord! Rise! The sky turns red with the blood of the fallen. The Lich King watches over us minions. Leave only ashes and misery in your destructive wake!
@@Saimeren i miss Darion's old VA... i dont like his new VA :(
@@121WoWfreak Same here. Hous old VA fit the character perfectly. I have such nostalgia for him going into the Ebon Hold and bothering him.
His new VA just seems off.
Good hearthstone memories!
Dam this expansions is like a high-school reunion 😳,so many character coming back
haha ye
Its what happens when ya run out of ideas you just go back
@@itouchbuttons Exactly, wow developers are running out of ideas and they use nostalgia to bring back and to keep players. Just look to wow classic and now this expansion, filled with a lot of old wow characters... Disappointing
It literally is for them, they both studied and worked at Dalaran and were members of its high council.
@@mariofernandezramirez5603 No lol are you dumb? The story revolves around the afterlife it's not running out of ideas it's being smart with the story...this isn't anything new with kael'tas the sunstrider coming back even during the burning crusade....
This feels really hollow and underwhelming. They bring back all these characters, but it doesn't feel meaningful in any way. It doesn't even feel like Kel'Thuzad. And Kael is all over the place.
ye feels like they just got them back because they could
@@LeystTV Kel'Thuzad wasn't even supposed to be dead. His phylactery was never found. Also, if he did die and wound up in the Shadowlands, how can he be a lich? His soul would be in human form, wouldn't it?
I'm sure we will know more about him in the future. I doubt this is the end for Kel'Thuzad
@@alexandrumarin8981 i guess he chose to stay a lich, just like vashj chose to stay a naga instead of her old NE look :D
"Hollow and underwhelming" describes Blizzard for the past few years. The original talent that created these long-lasting IP's like Warcraft and Diablo have all left the company. Now they're just milking the IP's bone dry for all they're worth until the company collapses.
In another universe, Kel'thuzad becomes the headmaster of a magic school
strangely it feels more in character than this deep voiced skeletor
@@ICHBinCOOLERalsJeman HE-MAN!!?? NYAAHH!!!
I find it very hard to believe kelthuzad would side with sylvanas...
He's siding with the Jailor... it's just that Sylvanas also happened to side with the the Jailor
He sided with Arthas even knowing he was going to be killed by him.
I used to ship them, in Frozen Throne. :D
Whose Fault is Sunwell Kel'Thuzad->Arthas->Lich King->Jailer
and Sylvanas sided Jailer or Did she?
I don't think she changed since death still vengeful banshee.
she is going overthrow jailer for Quel thalas as Evil.
@@kyleellis9177 Because he knew Arthas was also going to join the Lich King and resurrect him.
I find it really hard to believe that Kel'thuzad would be on board with anything to do with the Jailor or Sylvanas. Kel'thuzad is all about being pragmatic and sensible. I guess that's not in his personality from WoW, but that's really lame.
god, they turned him into a cartoon character
Hahahahaha, they updated the model ye
I really miss his calm and sinister tone back in Warcraft 3. Now he really acts like a villain from a cartoon. More likely, a deep modified voice of Skeletor.
@@LeystTV ..no, leyst, not the updated model. the character itself. is terrible.
Exactly. Shadowlands is one giant project in milking old characters that have died during some better times in the game.
I feel like Hearthstone is the reason why KT more and more cartoonish. First they made him goofy in the card game, then HoTS, now this.
all these years people speculating about KT and how he did a 4D chess play in nax, to simply bring him back as a random jobber, with a cartoon villain voice and bleak motivation...the very same character that was an mastermind in W3 and was the most loyal one for the will of the LK and the undead scourge turned into a goon for this new jailer...thx blizz i really needed that
ps: did i mention that this is the same guy that hated sylvanas to his very core because she always acted against the will of the scourge and now is siding with her new club?
Remember N'zoth and Nyalotha? Azshara and Nazjatar's backyard? Bolvar the Lich King?
It shouldn't be surprising anymore with Danuser completely and entirely fucking up the story to spite everyone who's been waiting on all these decade old build ups.
@@corypopowich7046 nobody can forget, particularly N'zoth dying with the power of anime and friendship
@Wonder of U original voice actor* i corrected for you genius, and it sounds bad, it doesn't matter if it is the same person or not if the people who records don't give AF
I'm just glad they got Michael McConnohie back to do Kel's voice.
😁
I hope this isn't the end for old K.T.
I doubt it 😁 there is a missing cutscene or something right before u “kill” him
It isnt. Kael'thas has text that says Kel'Thuzad escaped and is working with the Jailer.
He is one of the few from Warcraft 3 that is still "alive" and kicking.
@@LeystTV From what I heard, Sin'dane breaks lose and proceeds to freeze him. Wouldn't be surprised if they brought him back in the Maw
@@Uouttooo Maiev, Tyrande, Malfurion, Shandris, Muradin, Thrall, Nazgrel, Garthok, Rexxar, Gazlowe, Baine, Vol'jin, Rok'han, Kel'thuzad, Sylvanas.
(Not including generic WC3 names that became charactes)
Who else did I miss?
F for Kel'Thuzad, He ain't the loyal homie we once knew in Wc3. He was my second favorite character in Wc3, first being Sylvannas. Shame what blizzard has done to them, but you cant have nice things forever. He had a badass, wise, sinnister voice in wc3. Now he sounds like a budget protagonist.
I bet there is a plot twitst
You have to keep in mind it's still WIP those voice (i hope) may be placeholders for better ones. Also yeah Sylvanas' story has taken a route i never thought. In Wc3 she was one of my favorites too,but blizz used her for plot becouse they needed an evil leader and they already used orcs, tauren and night elves are peacefull,Humans and worgen have Anduin and genn and they want peace, and nobody would take an expansion where the main villian is a Gnome/Goblin/Panda. SO only evil leader could be Sylvanas and the edgy undead.
How many times must we teach you this lesson, old man!?!?
too many 😁
That was the most smooth sounding music I heard to a battle
Kel-Thu-Freaking-ZAD!
- 🐱 miayy!..
Hahaha 😄😄😄😄
Original Kel'Thuzad: wise, cunning, reserved, always keeping his cool because he is assured of his victory (and for good reasons), has no need for senseless bravado
-Fanfic- New Lore Kel'Thuzad: MUAHAHAHA, SO YOU HAVE COME!!! OHHH, HOW IS THE SUNWELL, TEEHEE!! *ded*
Original Kael'Thas: wise, eternally loyal to his subjects and those who aid him, compassionate, wants nothing but peace
-Fanfic- New Lore Kael'Thas: GREED, DEMONS, AHAHAHAHA, SUFFER!!!!
Original Zul'Jin: wise, cunning, absolutely fucking badass troll who is the literal personification of "AMANI NEVAH DIE!", keeping his hand and eye from healing to become a symbol of vengeance for his people
-Fanfic- New Lore Zul'Jin: Zul'Who? oh, yeah, that one random soul in Revendreth? What of him?
Man, fuck Blizzard _writers_ . Bleh, it took a lot of willpower to even call them that after they butcher one incredibly written character after the other. Wow has no lore anymore.
I’m more happy seeing Vashj and Kael’thas reunited than seeing Kel’thuzad. 😁🤣
I really find Kael’s role interesting here and I kinda like his voice in this expansion, although it didn’t sound like his old voice, he’s like an arrogant yet obedient boy lmao.
ye the voice is different but def not bad 😄
LeystTV it’s the same voice actor just different tones from the Warcraft 3
Kel'Thuzad you were never strong enough
Hahaha 😂
least he never power slide into a sword wielding death knight....
That plot armor is good eh?
Coming from an elf whose armor is made of plot
lol
I find it Ironic that, in life, and prior to killing Arthus, Shylvannas was against Kel'Thuzad, but now they both work for the jailer. It would also be funny if Arthus would be against the Jailer as that would mean Kel'Thuzad and Arthus are enemies again.
its gonna be interesting to see what the jailer wants and why they are willing to help him
I just hope Arthas doesn't have a saga in search of redemption, I prefer to see him seeking revenge against the Jailer
@@1MultShot The fact that a key common amongst the returning characters is redemption, if Arthus does return, I believe there will be some redemption for him.
Yeah I'm sure he will have some sort of redemption as well
@@TheDerek14 according to one of blizzard interview, we will get to interact Arthas in Shadowland but he doesn't have any major role or story in this expansion 😒
Shadowlands : how to milk old characters to no end. Even death does not save them from the milcc.inc!
Let us know if we ever free Arthas, by any chance. I'd like to see Arthas come back and make up for his sins against everybody.
what sins? he only made world better place
Sigh look at how they murder my boy
Where's the archlich that held off a continent before a bunch marysue came and wreck his place blasting new age music
What I dont understand from Shadowlands;
Keal'thas became Wretched by the end of Burning Crusade.
Here in shadowlands we see him in full glory.
Kel'Thuzad Became a Lich.
Here in Shadowlands; Still a Lich.
Shadowlands is such a weird concept. The fact that everyone who died just came back; so what do people do if they died in shadowlands?
This just seems like Blizzard ran out of story to tell and now they’re trying to bring back fan-favorites to lure people back.
When they die in shadowlands their anima is united with the land itself and the person cease to exist. That does not apply to you as a player though as your soul is bound to the titan Azeroth and not the shadowlands.
@@aedivian so just like when they said in the old lore if you died your soul went to the twisting nether?
I can't wait until 3 expansions from now when we go to the shadowierlands and if you die in the shadowlands you go there.
If people die in the shadowlanda they become anima
@Wonder of U There's a difference between bringing back a handful of characters and bringing back like five expansions worth.
@Wonder of U In SL we have:
literally every single dead character from a previous expansion that isn't in the Maw.
WoTLK, an undead themed expansion, we had: some zombie bosses.
yeah, not exactly the same. nice try though.
Loving the story. I think this will be the best Covenant
same 😁
Thanks for the spoiler about Kel’thuzad being in the game. Could’ve just had the title be “Venthyr final chapter” but nope gotta squeeze those extra views and screw over people trying to avoid spoilers.
that was spoiled months ago by everyone else, wowhead, mmo-c, everyone else on youtube etc. and im far from trying “squeeze” viewers. And if you actually knew my channel you would know that my friend :)
@@LeystTV Since you've needed to pin a post to say otherwise, it's pretty clear that you've just spoiled it for a bunch of people by putting it in the TITLE (including myself).
So next time try to be a little considerate of people trying to avoid spoilers :)
@@LeystTV It's nobody's fault but Blizzard's who haven't embargoed the betas for years now.
Soooo here is a theory:
What if KT is working WITH the jailor in order to SAVE ARTHAS?
everyone who played wc3 knows how loyal he is to arthas and with arthas being in the maw... you know where it goes from here🤔🤔
he wasn't this loyal to arthas. He is just smart enough to play along.
He was probably in touch with the jailer even before arthas became the LK... since he died, probably going into the maw... to finally comeback.
If the jailer ordered him to carefully serve Arthas, he will do.
He always said he was following bigger plans... yeah it could have been the LK thing like "you killed me but i knew what would come...blahblahblah..."... but it could also been this^^ aka "you killed me, but i knew you would serve death...more than you think...wink wink".
@@GniinG If u do some research you'll find out that killing a lich isn't as easy as just destroying the body and KT is pretty loyal to arthas as arthas calls him his only true friend so i don't think he would switch to the jailors side just for some extra power
@@sethadadk9771 i dont see the point with the lich... since... when arthas killed him the first time... he... wasnt a lich yet ?
and exactly... ARTHAS calls him his only true friend... not the other way around... helloooooo.
And i didn't said he switched side just for power... but he always was on the jailer side, from the beggining, and that it was all a master plan, and he played his role.
Is it kind of just assumed that Kel'Thuzad will be a future raid encounter again or no.
I'm hoping Kel is a only working for The Jailer to help protect Arthas. I just can't see a cat lover being a truly bad person.
Jesus christ it really looks like blizzard are out of ideas
Me seeing Kel’thuzad for the third time:
“Ah shit, here we go again...”
ikr 😂
I was hoping more to see Kel'Thuzad searching to find Arthas soul since it was his loyal servant, and for Arthas, his (onlly) friend. Traying to rescue him, even if it wasn't the Arthas he know, showing his loyalti to his king.
Didn't spect to lose the like of my coment for just edit a mistake XD
Nice video mate
Thanks
Why do liches exist in the 'afterlife'? Like...liches were mortals, humans or whatnot at their origin, their souls should be returned to normal, no? Why do they retain that form from azeroth?
I legit did not know he was in the shadowlands last I knew his phylactery was *somehwere* on azeroth.
Given the reunion of old characters, I have but one questions that I’m not sure I want to know the answer to...
Do dead old gods go to the Shadowlands..?
Thats a great question. Not sure what to answer haha
we never killed any old gods though :D
@@gaminginhdmax3854 Y'Shaarj died, so he might be. but given that we just fought 2 old gods in bfa I doubt blizzard would throw another one at us in such a short amount of time.
and Im not sure if we killed G'huun, but he is technically an old god.
@@lordstarscreamy329 seems reasonable to assume that old gods either disappear or their essence goes somewhere after death. Even demons have this with the twisting nether. I would assume the old gods just return to the void though
@@gaminginhdmax3854 it does sound most reasonable, that they just return to the void
Is'nt Kel'thuzad left behind on Lordaeron by Arthas?
I guess not 🙊
He was a raid boss twice since.
Glory too the scourge!!
may these weaklings fall like the quel'dorei's homeland!
Haha!! :D The new scourge!!! :p
@@LeystTV The jailer is no substitute for a lich king.
shame we won't have that again.... oh well, maybe we can get king arthas back?
Haha I would love Arthas back :D
@@Hawkens4k Arthas and his sister will rule the Forsaken.
Hope Kael rides Al'ar or something same in model when flying is unlocked in Shadowlands
Hahaha :D Would be cool imo
I was honestly hoping, Kel'Thuzad would be an ally in shadowlands
Who is "Margrave sin"dane, i play wow since 2004, and i maybe be confused but i think i never saw anything about this NPC, any one can help?
he/she is from maldraxxus 😀
@@LeystTV Oh, i was thinking she was some type of Queen of Death, or even Keltuzad mom, thank you!
It's a character in maldraxxus :p not too sure about the lore with him
She is the leader of the house of rituals (aka the necromancer house). There are 5 margraves and they lead one of the houses. She is basically the equivalent of drama and co, a military leader of the realm
Meanwhile us night fae in our gay forest
"CHAMPION LOOK, BLACK FAIRIES ARE ATTACKING THE BLUE FAIRIES! STOP THEM!"
"OH AND YSERA AND BWONSAMDI ARE HERE TOO!"
Ysera: *spits on some people* "RIDE ME CHAMPION!"
The queen: "You saved us, you are a great ally, I now declare you the guardian of the forest"
Me: "My queen, to be honest, I thought I was on an LSD trip the whole time"
You can basically feel the desperation radiating through the screen with every line, look we brought back all those characters although noneo f them act or behave like they should, don´t you want to give us your money again? Blizzards writing has been shit, but now they even desecrate the storylines that were actually good
damn, you must be in a really bad spot in life if everything is that bad in your eyes.
@@saxinantay3244 no it just sucks lol, no need to act cool
@Wonder of U wall of text? you are saying that I am tyhe guy who wrote that and this is another "my" account? because if you think so you are giga wrong, I just expressed my opinion which is that I think that it sucks.
What's this addon in the beginning with the dialogue window? It looks good
nice nice i didnt watch the whole video mate becuase i canit wait for shadowlands . i saw a few seconds of it .
Haha no worries mate
Kel'Thuzad was never loyal to Arthas his loyalty lies in the Lich King the spirit inside the helmet. Its destroyed by Sylvanas.
A other good vidoe dude keep it up you rock to bad he is not a dungeon or raid boss again
Thank you brother
@@LeystTV naxx 2.0
Haha Naxx 3.0 :p we had naxx 2.0
I didnt get it. Is he "dead" for now or he managed to escape now that you ruined his plans or what? :o
He isent "dead" there is a missing cutscene right when you "kill" him :p
@@LeystTV Whew...hope he will be still relevant. Thank you
They even reused harpy’s model and it makes no sense on vampires.
ye 😅
they're not vampires, they're gargoyles, hence they turn into stone. Some mythologies describe gargoyles with legs, arms and wings, some have only legs and wings, just like theres dragons with arms, and dragons without arms.
Kel'Thuzad your in the wrong adventure!!!!
So.... the Hearthstone version of Kel'thuzad is now the canon one. Fucking Blizzard man.
haha yep
Nice!!!! Cant wait to play it
its pretty nice 😄
Interested to see the finished cinematic for Kel'Thuzad's "defeat." Say what you will about the story and gameplay, but Blizzard's cinematics are 99% incredible (minus the LOTR/N'Zoth ending).
facts 😁
Seeing our "Champion" kamehameha N'zoth into oblivion after Magni begged us to remember that we're a CHAMPION OF AZEROTH to break the mind control was the most embarrassing thing I've ever watched in my life.
@@j.l.4054 Well at least we know Blizzard likes DBZ a lot (like Kerrigan/Narud in Starcarft II)...But on the main point, maybe would've been interesting to have a cinematic of flashbacks of everything N'Zoth helped create/destroy (Deathwing, Emerald Nightmare), to flesh out the in-game lore. On the gameplay...there's been enough of that expansion so glad to move on to Shadowlands.
My exact transportation, except I display the helm.
I dont know how they could've allowed the ''confrontation'' to be built like that. There is no meaning in it, everyone just rushing all around. You want to build it with some excitement? Have Kel and Kael fight 1v1 while you do some small tasks around the necropolis, I mean THEY are supposed to be the legendary characters, right?! Blizz now has built the ''legendary champion'', a player who can stand in kel'thuzads ice blast ( OR let Kel be fooled by mere mirror images 5:30) without blinking an eye, just spamming spells.
I can say from farming mounts in old raids just running them through, I get the same feeling watching the new content. There is nothing in it, well the old raids have the thrill of the possible mount loot but that only lasts for one rightclick.
Since they brought back Kel Thuzad again.....there's a chance they will bring back Arthas for his redemption arc?
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I can't fucking wait for the pre patch... Pls Blizzard don't let us wait any longer.
And after the release of the pre patch : I can't wait for shadowlands 😂
Why does everyone still have access to their powers?
We know that the living essences don't exist in the Shadowlands. This has been stated in the Bastion story line when they tell you that the Light and Void don't have influence over the Shadowlands.. So why can Kael'Thas still use Arcane, and Kel'Thuzad still use Death magic? If those forces don't have a presence in the Shadowlands, how do they have a presence in the Shadowlands? It doesn't make any sense.
actually a very very good question
@@LeystTV Realistically, the way it's been re-imagined in Chronicle, is that these forces are kind of like "The Force". They blanket everything in existence. They all exist in all space at once within their realm. (Ie. The living universe.) And people can simply tap into the energy around them and manipulate it. Druids do this when they manipulate the weather.
Malygos was doing this when he was siphoning the Arcane energy through the surge needles and feeding it into the Occulus.
It's not a power that's inside someone. It's an external force that people have the ability to see and touch. Those that are attuned to the Light can see and feel it's presence in the universe, and can touch it to manipulate it to heal or damage.
Mages can see the energy of "Arcane" and use it to cast fireballs, or teleport.
But if those essences don't exist in the Shadowlands, it doesn't make sense that anyone could use their powers. Because it's not THEIR power that's inside them. It's an external force.
@@Saimeren This bothers me too. But maybe it's because the shadowlands are open to the mortal world now, so all the forces you mention are now present there as well
@@Saimeren It also could be that because Shadowlands lacks of death matter that keeps shadowlands together, it may cause the world to get "influenced and corrupted" by other significant elements.
@@Porkey798 Maybe, but it kind of seems like Kel'Thuzad was using his powers before we got there. It's also weird that the Kyrians wouldn't have noticed the difference when they say that the Light and Void don't exist in the Shadowlands.
This looks like a saturday morning cartoon parody of WoW. Looks like BFA 2.0.
🤣
Curious about where Vashj and Kael disappeared after the confrontation.
im sure we will figure out 😁
Kel'thuzad is basicly a discount Nagash, change my mind.
This quest is bugged for me after P2 is completed =/
after he is stuck in the air, relog, you will be on the platform. Talk to the npc again and he will fly right when he goes up in the air leave him by clicking on the arrow that will make a copy of him that will follow you. Once you have 1 copy talk to the other npc on the right and gg 😁 let me know if this helps
For the ALLIANCE
😄
Omg...
Kel'Thuzad should have printed more brochures.
🤣
Why is KT in shadowlands?
shadowlands = the realm of death 😃
POG KELTHUZAD
😄 yep
You have fallen very low WoW... so sad.
soooo why is kel'thuzad in meldraxxus and not ravendrath?
Why would he be in revendreth? 😁
@@LeystTV he's commited so much sin that he definitely needed to be redeemed
Would be cooler if we can fight Keltha'zud in a raid again.
maybe we will 😃
any dialogue from kael and vash?
you mean after the quest?
@@LeystTV yeah after or before the quest. Like when they meet again?
Even the Title is a Spoiler. GG.
Wait. So Kael is trying to redeem himself?
Yes he is :p Not sure if you watched the previous vid ua-cam.com/video/Sq7gsbyGJM4/v-deo.html but ye he is kinda trying to redeem himself :D
@@LeystTV I'm sorry but I had ro cut it. But I'll go and watch it again.
Haha dont worry about it 😄 But ye he is kinda trying to redeem himself
The point of being sent to Revendreth is to redeem oneself.
@@Lahiss sorry. I don't play lol but I follow the storyline since W3
2020 and wow looks still like crap imao
*still looks.
Kel'Thuzad meet Jaina
Great vid :D
Thank you
Where is keltuzard? He is escape?
If meet again we will crush him before slyvanas.
he escaped :p
Really kt is a quest kill? How under whelming
i mean nerzul was a relatively early dungeon boss
@@BiologyIsHot true major life characters get no justice
They butchered Kel thuzads voice... Where are the WarCraft 3 voice actors?
Haha they probably couldnt get them?
@@LeystTV I was joking, i think they are the same, but the voices in WarCraft 3 are so smooth, now they just made every bad guys voice too grouchy, or deep, or both
Is this game only on android for mobile cos i cant find him on the app store?
hahahahahahahahaha
They still be doing my man dirty. :/
yes :(
So where is My Homeboy Arthas?
Good question :p
Why do I feel like we're not done with him?
im 99.99% sure we will see him again 😀
dont wire spilers after "SPOILER" some people got some nerve smh
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 the spoiler isent that he is in the game that was spoiled months ago by everyone else. But story spoiler haha
Yikes bud. Really had to put the spoiler in the title huh?
Its been spoiled months ago. :)) The spoiler warning is the story and not that he is ingame
I liked his wotlk voice more.
I miss kel thu zad to be honest....😭
He will be up on classic soon 🙊
😭😍
Scenario is busted on my server, can't start Phase 3
when he gets stuck in the air relog, then u will be on the platform, then after that talk to him again and right after click the arrow to leave then talk to him again and gg :p let me know if that work
@@LeystTV At first it was just producing duplicates of Dreven -- but then it worked after a few times, though I did have a dup Dreven following me around until final phase lol Thanks!
Yeah you need the duplicate to go with u :D
@@LeystTV Do you have any fixes for the inbetween effect to make it go away? :)
Could you try not putting the spoiler in the title even before mentioning that there are spoilers? That would really be great.
This has been known for about 6 months :) that he would be ingame
@@LeystTV your title doesnt say "KT is in the game" now does it?
What the hell? This is not kel'thuzad's personality or even close to his voice.
nope :p
@Wonder of U I think most people will understand that i mean he sounds nothing like how he sounds in wc3. Same voice actor or not.
I think you knew that is what I meant. I think you are just a weak little beta male who is looking for any sort of jabs to dish out on the internet.
It's a shame because the characters have quality to them (Kael thas, Kel thuzad) and the voice actors are great, but the writing is sub par.
What happen if you die in the shadowlands
good question
Ok so... they bring back the most fucked up characters like Vashj and Kael'thas as good guys, but they turn Kel'thuzad into a pointless villain again, which means Arthas would also be a pointless villain because Kel'thuzad is Arthas's most loyal servant.
Blizzard is just playing TBC favoritism, i'm sick of them ruining my favorite chars from War3, i might actually quit the game, i'm not feeling any type of connection with the story anymore.
we will see what they do with him in the future
....kinda hate this.Kel'Thusad as a simple quest "boss"? I get that he was a raid boss like twice but god damn does this seem anticlimactic.
"spoilers" hmm kind of already happened in the title of the video.. You done goof there son...
Kel’thuzads model was datamined about 6 months ago. so if someone didnt live under a rock they know he is in shadowlands :) the spoiler is what happens and what they talk about and not so much that kel’thuzad is in the game again since that got spoiled 6 months ago like I said :))
@@LeystTV "confronting, during the venthyr campaign" Now people know where and when to look for him thanks. No surprise there.
"living under a rock" - in the case where you live and breathe shadowlands/wow yea sure. Anything not publicly shown by blizzard or is obtainable by all players is a spoiler and he is not shown as far as I can tell in any official Blizzard capacity.
It is like me spoiling the the ending of your favorite TV-show by wearing a shirt that gives away part of the ending plot and me telling you, the script was leaked 5 months ago and you should have read it.
Wow is still the best mmo. It could be a legend but blizzard is afraid to take risks. It's amazing how every npc is so well designed, with dialogue lines and unique abilities. Shame it's not challenging so we can feel more entertained. But anyway, i think shadowlands will be a hit
Yeah wow is by far the best mmo game no doubt about it 😄😄
FFXIV has been better than WoW in every conceivable way for a few years now.
@@toasty_goat yes but i don't like the art style, graphics and combat. Also it's not open world so not my thing
@@albertgeorgy6827 FFXIV is as, "open world" as WoW is. Both games are fairly linear themepark MMOs.
Naxx Out? PogChamp
yes! 🤣
This was really anti-climactic and bland, I'm ashamed of myself for having so many expectations. I was really convinced that the quest was Kael'Thas going rogue with the aid of the player to seek vengeance on Kel'thuzad and in the end you actually played into Prince Renathal's plan all along.
In truth you mob up with other characters turned "good" and face off Kel'thuzad that got turned into one of those comic book villains that doesn't shut up about how everyone's doomed and that there's no stopping the inevitable.
hopefully this is a setup to something better
naxx 3.0?
And that’s how we turn a cold and sinister character in to a Disney villan
haha yep