I completely agree!!! As someone who is older with a full-time job and responsibilities, the books I choose to read are my safe space! I refuse to let negative tik toks make me feel bad about how I choose to enjoy reading
Yes!!! When you had a long day, there is nothing better than to be transported in to a different World. I used to feel ashamed of admitting what books I was reading and what I was watching on TV, until a few yrs ago my coworkers and I had an honest conversation, and we all admitted to watching and reading "less ambitious" things, and we decided to F it and do what feels good for us and our mental health. When you start talking about it, it is surprising how many people (from executives to students) need that type of escape. Thank you, Destiny, for always talking about how we can read what we want and how much we want, I think that is really beneficial especially for younger audience.❤❤
Agreed. I realized the change..the older i am the more picky what book that i want to read. Yesterday, i go to bookstore with my dad and spending 2 hours just only find 1 book that i really want to read...my dad was pissed lol.
I deleted TikTok a few months ago because it was so toxic, so I get my book recs from UA-cam and I agree, it is such a nicer community. ❤️ ALSO can’t wait for you to read ACOMAF… it’ll make you love rhysand even more !
100% agree booktok can be so toxic for slating books one person loves and another doesn’t, even if i dislike a book i will not deliberately comment about it it’s simply a difference in opinion 💕
This might sound daft but I honestly think the reason why booktok seems more toxic is because of the age range. Tiktok is primarily used by children/young teens, and lets be real kids just have no chill lmao. I’m not saying there aren’t any children on booktube or vice versa but I think you can clearly feel the imbalance in age and maturity of these two communities.
I totally see where you’re going with this. A lot do the booktok creators are older teens-adults but many of their followers seem to be younger-older teens with very little understanding of what their comments & criticisms actually do to people. So I can 100% see what you mean by this.
booktok has become so toxic, like why are we putting down authors and shaming people for liking specific books? people have different tastes??? it was honestly so sad seeing people hate on alex and lightlark, and go as far as to leave 1 star reviews on her book without EVEN READING IT?!! i can't even imagine how she's feeling rn :( like why are we putting so much energy to "cancel" her when we could be addressing and calling out actual problematic authors who have a very concerning history🤔🤔
I totally agree booktok used to be so fun and a space to share what everyone enjoyed reading and then over the last year it has just become more and more toxic. Everyone should be able to enjoy the books they want to read without feeling shamed or what not like what’s been happening on booktok recently.
You should try a video where you go to the bookstore and pick up books you've never heard of but chose because they seem intriguing to you (without looking up reviews or star ratings) Loved the video!!
Personally my problem with Colleen Hoover is that some of the portrayals of situations, like SA specifically, are romanticized, which trickles down into people being sort of uncritical of those aspects. I’m not saying that those scenes/relationships shouldn’t be in the books, but the way they’re handled I feel like isn’t great, which is mostly why I dislike coho books.
THANK YOU!!!! it isn’t just “hating” on colleen hoover and her books, it’s that there are serious problems with them! these things (romanticizing abuse and SA) are a common theme in her books, and never change. that’s why she is the problem just as much as her book are bad.
fallon I don’t share your opinion at all so it’s still just your opinion. and you can’t say there’s something ‘wrong’ with her books, just state it as YOUR opinion and move on.
@@saardcv your response is exactly what i mean when i say her books are harmful. to restate- i did say that she romanticizes abuse and SA constantly. but she as an author and her books are praised so much that people just look past it and don’t see it as a problem. what i’m getting from you is that you don’t see how harmful romanticizing abuse and SA is, especially labeling it as romance. it’s not just an opinion, if you don’t see how disgusting that is there’s something wrong.
@@saardcv I think that it’s just important to see and understand the issues lay in the books portrayal of situations which are objectively harmful. In the original version of November 9 there was a pretty explicit SA scene of the two mcs, which coho did remove but never made a real apology for, which to me shows that she doesn’t take things of that nature seriously in certain circumstances. I’m not saying a person can’t like her books, but there’s a lot which should be examined more critically by the reader imo.
@@fallon9178 now I don’t think colleen hoover meant to romanticise it for the sake of making it seem less harmful. I personally think she did a great job portraying the pov of a victim of SA and I assume she wanted to show the reader how manipulated the victims are and reading lily’s pov we see this romanticised version and fall for it. I feel like it’s a great way to draw a readers attention to the problem though I think some think could’ve been done better and I generally don’t lover her writing style. Again this is simply my opinion and I tolerate yours but I think just labelling it bad without further analysing the wished effect on the reader is stupid.
The dragging of Alex Aster, discovered that happening and was shocked. Putting a career on the line because they wanted to jump on the train of 'hating,' without reading the book or letting the author redeem herself.
I haven’t even read the book but the way everyone rushed to Goodreads before it was even released to bomb her with negative reviews is genuinely so sad. If I was an author I’d be so upset 😭
@@naaat3278 No honestly. From what I’ve heard on the situation, (which isn’t a lot) she’s a young author who needed some educating but in no way does she deserve the severe amount of hate she’s receiving. It’s genuinely so sad to see a bunch of people who consider themselves part of the bookish community bashing someone who put their work out there for people to see. :(
This is why I am VERY selective in regard to social media. I have Pinterest, Goodreads (I guess this counts...???), and UA-cam. I only comment on BookTube videos, because I feel welcomed and included. I really appreciate you talking about this topic. The fact that people are made to feel shame for a hobby that they love is disgusting. For some people, that makes people afraid to continue their hobbies and that's what is so sad to me. They end up losing parts of themselves. People preach about being yourself, but when you try, you are shot down if you don't align with them. Social Media has made society as a whole toxic.
100% agree girl!! This is a big reason why I always gravitate towards booktube rather than booktok. I just feel like with booktube, there's way more positivity. I don't get why there's so much negativity and bashing of others reading preferences and questioning people as readers for their choice of books!
This video spoke to me so much! I don’t like a lot of books that are hyped up on booktok so when I read a booktok book and I don’t like it sometimes I rate the books higher because of the hype. I’m so glad you made this video and spoke about this!❤️
I’m not coho fan personally, I’ve read ugly love and thought it was fine.I’m in interested in reading verity and heartbones in the future. But, I don’t think anyone should try to say someone isn’t a reader because they don’t read the most literary, and like serious books. Just because you only read “easy reads” doesn’t dismiss the fact that you’re reading. I love easy, fun books.I only mostly read romance but that doesn’t mean anything. People can be so elitist about books, and think they’re better because of the type of books they read!
Would you ever make a video trying a completely different genre? (horror, sci fi, etc) I would selfishly be curious to know your thoughts on a completely different genre since your romance tastes aligns so well with mine!
I personally understand people having strong feelings about the books they like. Every popular book is gonna have people that don’t like it, or that love it. But I don’t stand for people insulting the person that said that opinion. It’s not a big deal. I love colleens books. Some people don’t that’s fine, but they shouldn’t like be so harsh about it.
I actually agree with you about booktok! I have had several ppl post videos basically saying if you like this book you have bad taste. Or the trend where if they see someone recommend a specific book they know they don't have good taste. When all they have to say was this book wasn't for me.
I personally do not like the books I’ve read by Colleen Hoover, but I could never imagine belittling someone and saying they aren’t readers for reading her books. Reading is something so beautiful and an escapism for many. I don’t understand how people will sit there and bash others for doing something they love. It was good hearing your thoughts Destiny!!! 🤍
I haven’t had any negative experiences with reading until booktok and it’s so sad that it’s making this space “controversial”:( thank you for making this video❤️
I post booktok videos and I agree with you completely!! I hate seeing tiktoks in my feed of people putting people down for enjoying popular books and it makes me feel so bad for posting about and enjoying those books :( but I just try my best to ignore it and post positive stuff anyway!
Generally on tik tok there is a wide age range of about 14-early 20s. So when you think about it of course I would read different types of books and have different opinions on a book at 18 compared to a 14 year old because of my maturity level. When I was 14 I would read cute YA rom coms or YA fantasy’s now I tend to read more dark steamy romances. Which there’s nothing wrong about but when people on booktok deem a book as childish or to light and fluffy, yeah it might be for them but the younger audience on booktok might absolutely love that book because it’s more of their maturity level. But that doesn’t give people the right to make someone feel bad about liking or disliking a book or force an opinion. We are all different we all have different opinions and that’s perfectly fine. People need to just respect peoples opinions. I think people need to realise that the people on Tik tok and social media are real people. It unsettles me how much disrespect and inconsideration people have for others these days.
I’m so glad you brought this topic up ! Ngl I deleted TikTok due to how toxic it can be now and days and when I heard that people are really bullying others for READINGGGG! Literally reading ! A simple hobby that’s been around for decades. And even to the point they are slandering ppl for reading coho and calling her basic just does something to my poor readers heart. If you don’t like to read coho books then that’s fine but don’t bash someone for not having the same interest as you . Like y’all are upset that people are finding love in reading rather then wanting to spend their time on a screen for hours ? I would also think that while people are bashing coho for being “overrated” or “overhyped” I’m just glad mrs coho is in her bag ! Idk I feel like as an author I would love to be overhyped to the point everyone left and right are buying my books Thank you for speaking on this ! ❤️❤️ this is why I love you ! Booktok is a diff world and I hope people realize that it’s not ok to comment on peoples interest in a rude way
for real. I’m with Des on the fact that going back to it, I’m not a big fan of Ugly Love, however, I love a lot of her work and she got me back into reading. Her work may not be for everyone, but the amount of hate people get within random comment sections for liking her writing is totally extreme and unnecessary.
-It Ends With Us: I loved this book so much. I think one of the reasons it is SO popular and SO hyped is simply because of the subject matter it deals with, mixed with her writing style. I think so many women and girls can relate to Lily and it feels as though Colleen has described exactly what it is like to be in an abusive relationship. I think the people who are like really supporting this book are maybe ones who have gone through it and are feeling that emotional feeling like “people finally know my story” without them having to say “I’ve been through this too” personally, that’s why I loved it so much! -Ugly Love: I initially read this and it was a page turner and I even cried during certain parts. However looking back I realized that there was literally no character development on Tate and I wondered how either of them could even be falling in love because it seemed like their whole time spent together was so superficial. I thought Miles was an ass for how he treated her but in the end I even liked him more than her because we had more character development on him. Tate is literally one dimensional and her whole personality is just getting Miles to love her back. Spoiler maybe: The only time I felt like I got to know Tate a little more was when she showed up in November 9 and we got to see how caring she is.
hi destiny! i don’t usually comment but i just wanted to tell you i absolutely love your videos! your personality, books, everything is amazing! you are an amazing person!
I so need to read The Court of Thorns and Roses ~Series~ I'm not a fantasy lady so much...however I really enjoyed the Crescent City ~Series~ I also enjoyed It Ends with Us... I really don't care what people say about these books... It's what makes me feel something when I read them.. I also need to "Get On" the Addicted ~Series~... I'm so behind... Love your videos! ❤
the sad part is that it’s so common to romanticize abuse, SA, misogyny, etc, so people don’t see it right away and then don’t listen when people bring up why these books are problematic. her books are deeply harmful and just plain bad.
Yes this is definitely true. There’s no need to shame people for liking Colleen Hoover however it’s extremely important to bring up the problematic messages in her books and the toxic love interests she writes about. Especially since the majority of her audience is young teenagers
Literally been called and stupid and basic on booktok for enjoying popular romance books. It’s so unbelievably annoying. My taste in books or my enjoyment of a “basic book” does not even come CLOSE to defining who I am as a person. To judge a person you have quite literally never met or spoken to based on a completely harmless book they like is something I will never understand. And ffs when will people ever grow out of the “you’re basic” insult????
i stopped using TikTok a while ago and started watching UA-cam more. I just find that UA-cam is way more uplifting and people don’t argue and judge people over every little thing 😭
I love your channel Destiny! Can you create a Shatter Me reading vlog video? I’m not sure if I should read that series so it would be amazing to get your opinion on it! I completely agree with you about Booktok. It seriously is toxic! Thank you for this video! It should definitely help this negativity.
I think that stuff circulates faster on TikTok. In ugly love there is one quote( you probably know the one) that went around TikTok. I think without reading a coho book and only seeing ugly love (or one other book by her) being so popular, it’s a negative experience already for a potential reader. The only thing I’ve ever seen on Booktok about coho, is just what you said. It’s more immature writing. I personally love it. I read Sarah dessen books growing up. I prefer UA-cam! I feel like I find more book recs that I might normally not read or hear about ❤️❤️
I fully agree with you it comes to Ugly Love. I really wanted to love it but I had problems with the fact Miles haven't been in a relationship in years so what had made Tate sooo special. They never went on dates and we barely know their personalities. Ended up giving it a 3 star. Just because I didn't like the book didn't mean I don't like the author. And by the way I love your content and I'm to see to you addressing this topic.
Agreed. It was an "easy read" for me, finished it in about 5 hours but the way Tate and Miles were obsessed with each was too much. They need other hobbies. But I have also enjoyed other Coho books more.
I basically don't buy anything recommended by booktokers. Had bought a few and they were immatured, badly written and full of typos. I had literally never read such bad books. It was so surprising how these books could be so 'hyped and liked'. I can only assume they were all paid publicities. Nowadays even books covers have written 'sensation on tiktok'. Thanks for the heads up lol.
Seeing negative videos on booktok really makes me feel horrible, like feel guilty for enjoying the book! Especially when people hate on Colleen or hate on people who read a lot of hyped books. Like I have a bad taste for liking popular “basic” books. I really have to force myself to scroll past and not get effected by the video.
Also if I could read every book I would but that’s very expensive and time consuming. So of course I’m gonna read a book that a lot of people are hyping up more than a book I haven’t heard about.
@@hoperebecca28 i agree with you, I feel so guilty when people say something is wrong with people who read colleen hoover, I feel like something is wrong with me or something and the thing is i won't stop reading her books because they are so hyped up and i wanna know the hype
@@snothandothwala2062 exactly! Also as long as I still enjoy her books I’m not going to stop! What’s important is our own opinion and how a book made us feel! As much as we follow people on book tube and booktok, we can only determine if we like a book ourselves!
also agree 100% with the whole just because you don’t like a book doesn’t mean you don’t like the author as a person. books don’t have feelings, we can say we don’t like them lol
The Colleen hate came on STRONG AND FAST I was shocked like just read something else 🤷♀️ Like I can understand some of the criticism as there's been many books of hers I haven't enjoyed but there's been a few that I've loved and I'm excited for It Starts With US! I will say as a 28 year old I've found a lot more books I love from UA-cam creators because some of the ya books on tik tok are just written a little too young for me. But I love using both in tandem for recommendations.
I would love to hear more of your thoughts on the addicted/Calloway series and the shatter me series!! I’ve been debating on reading the series for awhile!
I wanna get into the addicted/Calloway sister series but the hype scares me lol I read book 2 & 3 of the off campus series and I LOVED them haha People just have different tastes - that’s normal if we all liked the same things we’d have less books to read
Sorry if I’m wrong, but isn’t SOME of the coho hate due to problematic things she’s written? I bought ugly love, but I refuse to pick it up due to seeing some of the lines written in it.
Lolol I feel like the hating game was so slow 😭😭😭 I read the first 50-80 pages and felt like I was drowning in boredom But I really liked the Spanish deception 1. I think that’s funny 2. Again to your point - people like different things and you shouldn’t hate on someone because of that
I gave IEWU 3/5⭐️. The last 100ish pages were the only good parts in my opinion. It felt like a messy wattpad story with too many time jumps and I really disliked the letters to Ellen as a way to tell Lily and Atlas’s story. I agree that it’s wayyy overhyped. If you dnf’d it i’d try to go back and read what’s left bc it does end up being a good ending
I had the same thoughts as you about Every Summer After. I read it pretty soon after Love and other words (which I enjoyed) that I had to ask myself if I was reading the same book twice.
Booktube and booksta are definitely superior book socials. I think it all comes down age and maturity. Quite a lot of the TikTok audience is such a younger demographic. I agree with almost all your book thoughts. There was only one I disagree on and it sally rooney, I really enjoy her writing. But that’s okay, we’re adults who can have different taste. But the rest of your book thoughts were spot on to my thoughts.
I feel so bad when people are mean to people who read colleen hoover. Like fr it's not that serious. Let people read what they want. Just because you read a different author doesn't make you superior. Just like you wouldn't be mean to someone for liking country music over rap, etc. We as the book community need to share the love we have for books, we need to get together and love each other over our mutual love for books.
As a 19 year old I saw all the hype around The summer I turned pretty series I decided I should try it, so I got it on audible. And let me just say, that’s one of my lowest rated books of the year, Belly was so immature and come on… Belly really. And I felt like the writing itself was immature, so I could definitely see 14-16 year olds enjoying it. So I was like idk maybe they get better but then I started reading some reviews and was like yeah ok nope not happening .
I said once that I didn't like shatter me and that I won't pick up the rest of the series. I got a 100 comments of people telling me I am wrong. That's what's wrong with booktok. I'm not wrong if I didn't like it. It's like they are this big cult and came on me, begging me to read more cuz "it was worth it". I wanted to rip that book into shreds, so no this isn't a series I want to continue. I don't like it, you like it, we leave it at that. That's booktube. Booktok tho? Oh they are gonna shred u apart. And don't even get me started on the fighting if there is a love triangle in a certain book...For example, I am a team Jeremiah girl. Sure she ended up with Conrad, whatever, I still like my ship more (and keep hating on the third book) that was MY experience with those books. This was the character that I enjoyed so much and he became a comfort to me. I once saw a video that went like "you're a -1000 if you are team jeremiah" people seriously putting people down and their LOOKS for liking a character and a ship that isn't endgame than the one that is endgame? And their defense mechanism is what? "Oh it's a joke" no honey. You meant it. You wouldn't have posted it if you didn't mean it. And now the final gambit will come out soon and they are just attacking eachother like wolves (not all but like most). It's a toxic community and I prefer booktube much much more. It's a safe space.
@@whatsdesreading exactly...also I just edited my comment after u answered lmao maybe u wanna read the rest as well cuz that is seriously a problem as well and I forgot to mention it
tiktok comments are either the greatest things i've ever seen- hilarious, encouraging, positive... OR they're the meanest most toxic things i've ever seen. there is no in between lol
I like Bucky Barnes TikTok lol...booktok is 50/50 I love book recs but this one guy said he's coming for booktok...he meant nothing by it but he's a good looking guy and people are always saying hey this guy looks like a booktok guy but when he says it himself people have a problem with it. Like if u cast urself as a booktok guy its a problem...I always have dark mafia romance recs and I love it...yea people ive seen on TikTok hate colleen hoover with a passion...A CLOCKWORK READER hates colleen hoover with a passion...her one video is nothing but bashing her
finally someone else who doesn’t think the spanish love deception was great! i gave it a 2 stars, i really did not enjoy lina, i felt like she was way too immature
I loved the first book of The Summer I Turned Pretty and I've watched the show and I really liked it and I have just started reading the 2nd book in the series.
I liked the show and loved the first book in the series as well, however, the 2nd book was quite boring to me and the third was messy. This is completely opinion based tho!! Lmk what you think of the 2nd and 3rd, I’d like to get different perspectives on them!:)
can someone please tell me why i cant get the old addicted to you cover to match perfectly with the rest of the series and why are they so expensive when you order from australia :(
a lot of your takes are very privileged to be honest. only reading books without any diversity or inclusivity is kind of strange, and authors like colleen hoover deserve to be called out for lack thereof. most booktok books are characters that are white and skinny, as well as the authors. it’s important that we call out this behaviour, and start diversifying our bookshelves.
I completely agree!!! As someone who is older with a full-time job and responsibilities, the books I choose to read are my safe space! I refuse to let negative tik toks make me feel bad about how I choose to enjoy reading
Yes!!! When you had a long day, there is nothing better than to be transported in to a different World. I used to feel ashamed of admitting what books I was reading and what I was watching on TV, until a few yrs ago my coworkers and I had an honest conversation, and we all admitted to watching and reading "less ambitious" things, and we decided to F it and do what feels good for us and our mental health. When you start talking about it, it is surprising how many people (from executives to students) need that type of escape. Thank you, Destiny, for always talking about how we can read what we want and how much we want, I think that is really beneficial especially for younger audience.❤❤
Agreed. I realized the change..the older i am the more picky what book that i want to read. Yesterday, i go to bookstore with my dad and spending 2 hours just only find 1 book that i really want to read...my dad was pissed lol.
I believe that the reason TikTok is so toxic is because of how young the most users are, UA-cam users are usually more mature.
I don’t understand people like this. You read a book you’re a reader. No one is better than anyone based on the books they are reading
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I deleted TikTok a few months ago because it was so toxic, so I get my book recs from UA-cam and I agree, it is such a nicer community. ❤️ ALSO can’t wait for you to read ACOMAF… it’ll make you love rhysand even more !
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100% agree booktok can be so toxic for slating books one person loves and another doesn’t, even if i dislike a book i will not deliberately comment about it it’s simply a difference in opinion 💕
This might sound daft but I honestly think the reason why booktok seems more toxic is because of the age range. Tiktok is primarily used by children/young teens, and lets be real kids just have no chill lmao. I’m not saying there aren’t any children on booktube or vice versa but I think you can clearly feel the imbalance in age and maturity of these two communities.
I totally see where you’re going with this. A lot do the booktok creators are older teens-adults but many of their followers seem to be younger-older teens with very little understanding of what their comments & criticisms actually do to people. So I can 100% see what you mean by this.
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booktok has become so toxic, like why are we putting down authors and shaming people for liking specific books? people have different tastes??? it was honestly so sad seeing people hate on alex and lightlark, and go as far as to leave 1 star reviews on her book without EVEN READING IT?!! i can't even imagine how she's feeling rn :( like why are we putting so much energy to "cancel" her when we could be addressing and calling out actual problematic authors who have a very concerning history🤔🤔
I totally agree booktok used to be so fun and a space to share what everyone enjoyed reading and then over the last year it has just become more and more toxic. Everyone should be able to enjoy the books they want to read without feeling shamed or what not like what’s been happening on booktok recently.
People on tiktok in general are so negative and love a good “why ___ is problematic and you’re a piece of shit for liking it”
something else i don't like about booktok is that they are BRUTAL with spoilers
specifically: the video everyone uses with the girl hitting the piñata. just skip every single one you see
You should try a video where you go to the bookstore and pick up books you've never heard of but chose because they seem intriguing to you (without looking up reviews or star ratings) Loved the video!!
Personally my problem with Colleen Hoover is that some of the portrayals of situations, like SA specifically, are romanticized, which trickles down into people being sort of uncritical of those aspects. I’m not saying that those scenes/relationships shouldn’t be in the books, but the way they’re handled I feel like isn’t great, which is mostly why I dislike coho books.
THANK YOU!!!! it isn’t just “hating” on colleen hoover and her books, it’s that there are serious problems with them! these things (romanticizing abuse and SA) are a common theme in her books, and never change. that’s why she is the problem just as much as her book are bad.
fallon I don’t share your opinion at all so it’s still just your opinion. and you can’t say there’s something ‘wrong’ with her books, just state it as YOUR opinion and move on.
@@saardcv your response is exactly what i mean when i say her books are harmful. to restate- i did say that she romanticizes abuse and SA constantly. but she as an author and her books are praised so much that people just look past it and don’t see it as a problem. what i’m getting from you is that you don’t see how harmful romanticizing abuse and SA is, especially labeling it as romance. it’s not just an opinion, if you don’t see how disgusting that is there’s something wrong.
@@saardcv I think that it’s just important to see and understand the issues lay in the books portrayal of situations which are objectively harmful. In the original version of November 9 there was a pretty explicit SA scene of the two mcs, which coho did remove but never made a real apology for, which to me shows that she doesn’t take things of that nature seriously in certain circumstances. I’m not saying a person can’t like her books, but there’s a lot which should be examined more critically by the reader imo.
@@fallon9178 now I don’t think colleen hoover meant to romanticise it for the sake of making it seem less harmful. I personally think she did a great job portraying the pov of a victim of SA and I assume she wanted to show the reader how manipulated the victims are and reading lily’s pov we see this romanticised version and fall for it. I feel like it’s a great way to draw a readers attention to the problem though I think some think could’ve been done better and I generally don’t lover her writing style. Again this is simply my opinion and I tolerate yours but I think just labelling it bad without further analysing the wished effect on the reader is stupid.
The dragging of Alex Aster, discovered that happening and was shocked. Putting a career on the line because they wanted to jump on the train of 'hating,' without reading the book or letting the author redeem herself.
i wanted to speak on that but felt like i wasn’t fully educated on the situation, from what i do know all i can say is, wow.
I haven’t even read the book but the way everyone rushed to Goodreads before it was even released to bomb her with negative reviews is genuinely so sad. If I was an author I’d be so upset 😭
@@naaat3278 No honestly. From what I’ve heard on the situation, (which isn’t a lot) she’s a young author who needed some educating but in no way does she deserve the severe amount of
hate she’s receiving. It’s genuinely so sad to see a bunch of people who consider themselves part of the bookish community bashing someone who put their work out there for people to see. :(
Runs to TT to see what the heck “shifting is.” Now I’m down another rabbit hole 😆
This is why I am VERY selective in regard to social media. I have Pinterest, Goodreads (I guess this counts...???), and UA-cam. I only comment on BookTube videos, because I feel welcomed and included. I really appreciate you talking about this topic. The fact that people are made to feel shame for a hobby that they love is disgusting. For some people, that makes people afraid to continue their hobbies and that's what is so sad to me. They end up losing parts of themselves.
People preach about being yourself, but when you try, you are shot down if you don't align with them. Social Media has made society as a whole toxic.
100% agree girl!! This is a big reason why I always gravitate towards booktube rather than booktok. I just feel like with booktube, there's way more positivity. I don't get why there's so much negativity and bashing of others reading preferences and questioning people as readers for their choice of books!
This video spoke to me so much! I don’t like a lot of books that are hyped up on booktok so when I read a booktok book and I don’t like it sometimes I rate the books higher because of the hype. I’m so glad you made this video and spoke about this!❤️
I’ve had covid and I’ve been binging destiny’s vids waiting for her to post again I’m so happy!
hello! I wish you a speed recovery! please be safe and healthy!! have a nice day, best wishes from India
@@harikasribooktalks Thank you so much I’m already feeling better I’m reading a lot to take my mind off of it. Again thank you have a great day
I’m not coho fan personally, I’ve read ugly love and thought it was fine.I’m in interested in reading verity and heartbones in the future. But, I don’t think anyone should try to say someone isn’t a reader because they don’t read the most literary, and like serious books. Just because you only read “easy reads” doesn’t dismiss the fact that you’re reading. I love easy, fun books.I only mostly read romance but that doesn’t mean anything. People can be so elitist about books, and think they’re better because of the type of books they read!
Would you ever make a video trying a completely different genre? (horror, sci fi, etc) I would selfishly be curious to know your thoughts on a completely different genre since your romance tastes aligns so well with mine!
Hope your having a good day des xx
I personally understand people having strong feelings about the books they like. Every popular book is gonna have people that don’t like it, or that love it. But I don’t stand for people insulting the person that said that opinion. It’s not a big deal. I love colleens books. Some people don’t that’s fine, but they shouldn’t like be so harsh about it.
I actually agree with you about booktok! I have had several ppl post videos basically saying if you like this book you have bad taste. Or the trend where if they see someone recommend a specific book they know they don't have good taste. When all they have to say was this book wasn't for me.
I personally do not like the books I’ve read by Colleen Hoover, but I could never imagine belittling someone and saying they aren’t readers for reading her books. Reading is something so beautiful and an escapism for many. I don’t understand how people will sit there and bash others for doing something they love. It was good hearing your thoughts Destiny!!! 🤍
I haven’t had any negative experiences with reading until booktok and it’s so sad that it’s making this space “controversial”:( thank you for making this video❤️
I post booktok videos and I agree with you completely!! I hate seeing tiktoks in my feed of people putting people down for enjoying popular books and it makes me feel so bad for posting about and enjoying those books :( but I just try my best to ignore it and post positive stuff anyway!
Generally on tik tok there is a wide age range of about 14-early 20s. So when you think about it of course I would read different types of books and have different opinions on a book at 18 compared to a 14 year old because of my maturity level. When I was 14 I would read cute YA rom coms or YA fantasy’s now I tend to read more dark steamy romances. Which there’s nothing wrong about but when people on booktok deem a book as childish or to light and fluffy, yeah it might be for them but the younger audience on booktok might absolutely love that book because it’s more of their maturity level. But that doesn’t give people the right to make someone feel bad about liking or disliking a book or force an opinion. We are all different we all have different opinions and that’s perfectly fine. People need to just respect peoples opinions. I think people need to realise that the people on Tik tok and social media are real people. It unsettles me how much disrespect and inconsideration people have for others these days.
I’m so glad you brought this topic up ! Ngl I deleted TikTok due to how toxic it can be now and days and when I heard that people are really bullying others for READINGGGG! Literally reading ! A simple hobby that’s been around for decades. And even to the point they are slandering ppl for reading coho and calling her basic just does something to my poor readers heart. If you don’t like to read coho books then that’s fine but don’t bash someone for not having the same interest as you . Like y’all are upset that people are finding love in reading rather then wanting to spend their time on a screen for hours ?
I would also think that while people are bashing coho for being “overrated” or “overhyped” I’m just glad mrs coho is in her bag ! Idk I feel like as an author I would love to be overhyped to the point everyone left and right are buying my books
Thank you for speaking on this ! ❤️❤️ this is why I love you ! Booktok is a diff world and I hope people realize that it’s not ok to comment on peoples interest in a rude way
Your videos are so comforting ur literally like my fav booktuber
i love how you worded everything and i agree! i’ve seen a lot of really mean stuff about people who read coho lately and i personally love her 😭😭
for real. I’m with Des on the fact that going back to it, I’m not a big fan of Ugly Love, however, I love a lot of her work and she got me back into reading. Her work may not be for everyone, but the amount of hate people get within random comment sections for liking her writing is totally extreme and unnecessary.
I would really love it if you made a video talking about the addicted/Calloway series!!
-It Ends With Us: I loved this book so much. I think one of the reasons it is SO popular and SO hyped is simply because of the subject matter it deals with, mixed with her writing style. I think so many women and girls can relate to Lily and it feels as though Colleen has described exactly what it is like to be in an abusive relationship. I think the people who are like really supporting this book are maybe ones who have gone through it and are feeling that emotional feeling like “people finally know my story” without them having to say “I’ve been through this too” personally, that’s why I loved it so much!
-Ugly Love: I initially read this and it was a page turner and I even cried during certain parts. However looking back I realized that there was literally no character development on Tate and I wondered how either of them could even be falling in love because it seemed like their whole time spent together was so superficial. I thought Miles was an ass for how he treated her but in the end I even liked him more than her because we had more character development on him. Tate is literally one dimensional and her whole personality is just getting Miles to love her back.
Spoiler maybe: The only time I felt like I got to know Tate a little more was when she showed up in November 9 and we got to see how caring she is.
Best part of any day is you posting aaahhhhh favorite UA-camR 💛💛💛
hi destiny! i don’t usually comment but i just wanted to tell you i absolutely love your videos! your personality, books, everything is amazing! you are an amazing person!
I so need to read The Court of Thorns and Roses ~Series~ I'm not a fantasy lady so much...however I really enjoyed the Crescent City ~Series~ I also enjoyed It Ends with Us... I really don't care what people say about these books... It's what makes me feel something when I read them.. I also need to "Get On" the Addicted ~Series~... I'm so behind... Love your videos! ❤
I also need to read ACOTAR, as I’m not a fantasy girl either. I’m also behind on Addicted/Calloway don’t worry girl! ❤️
Yes finally another Destiny post! I love all of your videos girl
the sad part is that it’s so common to romanticize abuse, SA, misogyny, etc, so people don’t see it right away and then don’t listen when people bring up why these books are problematic. her books are deeply harmful and just plain bad.
Yes this is definitely true. There’s no need to shame people for liking Colleen Hoover however it’s extremely important to bring up the problematic messages in her books and the toxic love interests she writes about. Especially since the majority of her audience is young teenagers
@@anna-vo2zu Oh yeah I was not saying that it was okay to shame people for liking Colleen. People like whoever they want.
Literally been called and stupid and basic on booktok for enjoying popular romance books. It’s so unbelievably annoying. My taste in books or my enjoyment of a “basic book” does not even come CLOSE to defining who I am as a person. To judge a person you have quite literally never met or spoken to based on a completely harmless book they like is something I will never understand. And ffs when will people ever grow out of the “you’re basic” insult????
I love your honesty ❤️
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Out of all the authors in the world I just think it is an interesting case study how CoHo has taken over Booktok. She owns it, it is her lol.
I would love an addicted Calloway sister series video !
I’m listening to addicted to you on audible as trying to get the books in the uk has been tough, ngl I’m enjoying it 😊
Also agree, just because people like a book doesn’t mean you need to love it or even like it! So I agree with you there x
i stopped using TikTok a while ago and started watching UA-cam more. I just find that UA-cam is way more uplifting and people don’t argue and judge people over every little thing 😭
Love your videos soso much destiny. Thank you for always making my day
I love your channel Destiny! Can you create a Shatter Me reading vlog video? I’m not sure if I should read that series so it would be amazing to get your opinion on it! I completely agree with you about Booktok. It seriously is toxic! Thank you for this video! It should definitely help this negativity.
If people can't handle opinions that are different from theirs, they shouldn't be on the Internet. At the end of the day, just read what you want!
definitely needed this video today, it’s been rough
I agree!! A video on Lauren Asher books would be cool!
I loved, It End With Us and Verity. Getting more of her books obsessed
I think that stuff circulates faster on TikTok. In ugly love there is one quote( you probably know the one) that went around TikTok. I think without reading a coho book and only seeing ugly love (or one other book by her) being so popular, it’s a negative experience already for a potential reader.
The only thing I’ve ever seen on Booktok about coho, is just what you said. It’s more immature writing. I personally love it. I read Sarah dessen books growing up.
I prefer UA-cam! I feel like I find more book recs that I might normally not read or hear about
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I fully agree with you it comes to Ugly Love. I really wanted to love it but I had problems with the fact Miles haven't been in a relationship in years so what had made Tate sooo special. They never went on dates and we barely know their personalities. Ended up giving it a 3 star. Just because I didn't like the book didn't mean I don't like the author. And by the way I love your content and I'm to see to you addressing this topic.
Agreed. It was an "easy read" for me, finished it in about 5 hours but the way Tate and Miles were obsessed with each was too much. They need other hobbies. But I have also enjoyed other Coho books more.
I basically don't buy anything recommended by booktokers. Had bought a few and they were immatured, badly written and full of typos. I had literally never read such bad books. It was so surprising how these books could be so 'hyped and liked'. I can only assume they were all paid publicities.
Nowadays even books covers have written 'sensation on tiktok'. Thanks for the heads up lol.
Seeing negative videos on booktok really makes me feel horrible, like feel guilty for enjoying the book! Especially when people hate on Colleen or hate on people who read a lot of hyped books. Like I have a bad taste for liking popular “basic” books. I really have to force myself to scroll past and not get effected by the video.
Also if I could read every book I would but that’s very expensive and time consuming. So of course I’m gonna read a book that a lot of people are hyping up more than a book I haven’t heard about.
@@hoperebecca28 i agree with you, I feel so guilty when people say something is wrong with people who read colleen hoover, I feel like something is wrong with me or something and the thing is i won't stop reading her books because they are so hyped up and i wanna know the hype
@@snothandothwala2062 exactly! Also as long as I still enjoy her books I’m not going to stop! What’s important is our own opinion and how a book made us feel! As much as we follow people on book tube and booktok, we can only determine if we like a book ourselves!
Love your content!! Just ordered the same prints you just got for your reading corner from Etsy :) thanks for sharing!
also agree 100% with the whole just because you don’t like a book doesn’t mean you don’t like the author as a person. books don’t have feelings, we can say we don’t like them lol
I love your perspective with book tok
The Colleen hate came on STRONG AND FAST I was shocked like just read something else 🤷♀️
Like I can understand some of the criticism as there's been many books of hers I haven't enjoyed but there's been a few that I've loved and I'm excited for It Starts With US!
I will say as a 28 year old I've found a lot more books I love from UA-cam creators because some of the ya books on tik tok are just written a little too young for me. But I love using both in tandem for recommendations.
You should do a guide to the addicted/calloway series!!
destiny said what needed to be said 💖
Twitter is just as bad for hating Colleen hoover! People will do anything to put down other people for liking something
I would love to hear more of your thoughts on the addicted/Calloway series and the shatter me series!! I’ve been debating on reading the series for awhile!
we need addicted ranking video destiny. And I love you girl
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I have a really bad habit with just buying booktok books. I would say about 8 books on my bookshelf are not booktok and the rest are
Yesss I’ve been waiting for a new video!!
Can you do a reading vlog of the heartstopper series
Its so crazy how many different corners of booktok there is cuz a lot of these books ive almost never seen on booktok
I wanna get into the addicted/Calloway sister series but the hype scares me lol
I read book 2 & 3 of the off campus series and I LOVED them haha
People just have different tastes - that’s normal if we all liked the same things we’d have less books to read
I'd love more ranking videos!
I appreciate your content and your honestly
Sorry if I’m wrong, but isn’t SOME of the coho hate due to problematic things she’s written? I bought ugly love, but I refuse to pick it up due to seeing some of the lines written in it.
Lolol I feel like the hating game was so slow 😭😭😭 I read the first 50-80 pages and felt like I was drowning in boredom
But I really liked the Spanish deception
1. I think that’s funny
2. Again to your point - people like different things and you shouldn’t hate on someone because of that
I DNF’d it ends with us I just couldn’t do it! I loved her other books maybe someday is my favorite!
I gave IEWU 3/5⭐️. The last 100ish pages were the only good parts in my opinion. It felt like a messy wattpad story with too many time jumps and I really disliked the letters to Ellen as a way to tell Lily and Atlas’s story. I agree that it’s wayyy overhyped. If you dnf’d it i’d try to go back and read what’s left bc it does end up being a good ending
I had the same thoughts as you about Every Summer After. I read it pretty soon after Love and other words (which I enjoyed) that I had to ask myself if I was reading the same book twice.
RAN to this video when I saw the title because I never see people talk about how toxic tik tok is so thank you for talking about it 🫶🏼
Booktube and booksta are definitely superior book socials.
I think it all comes down age and maturity. Quite a lot of the TikTok audience is such a younger demographic.
I agree with almost all your book thoughts. There was only one I disagree on and it sally rooney, I really enjoy her writing. But that’s okay, we’re adults who can have different taste. But the rest of your book thoughts were spot on to my thoughts.
I love the court of thorn and roses and I’m not a fantasy reader the second one is so good and right now I’m on the third book
I feel so bad when people are mean to people who read colleen hoover. Like fr it's not that serious. Let people read what they want. Just because you read a different author doesn't make you superior. Just like you wouldn't be mean to someone for liking country music over rap, etc. We as the book community need to share the love we have for books, we need to get together and love each other over our mutual love for books.
I agree w ur opinions on every summer after I hated the plot twist but I did enjoy it but it def wasn’t as good as love and other words to me
As a 19 year old I saw all the hype around The summer I turned pretty series I decided I should try it, so I got it on audible. And let me just say, that’s one of my lowest rated books of the year, Belly was so immature and come on… Belly really. And I felt like the writing itself was immature, so I could definitely see 14-16 year olds enjoying it. So I was like idk maybe they get better but then I started reading some reviews and was like yeah ok nope not happening .
I said once that I didn't like shatter me and that I won't pick up the rest of the series. I got a 100 comments of people telling me I am wrong. That's what's wrong with booktok. I'm not wrong if I didn't like it. It's like they are this big cult and came on me, begging me to read more cuz "it was worth it". I wanted to rip that book into shreds, so no this isn't a series I want to continue. I don't like it, you like it, we leave it at that. That's booktube. Booktok tho? Oh they are gonna shred u apart. And don't even get me started on the fighting if there is a love triangle in a certain book...For example, I am a team Jeremiah girl. Sure she ended up with Conrad, whatever, I still like my ship more (and keep hating on the third book) that was MY experience with those books. This was the character that I enjoyed so much and he became a comfort to me. I once saw a video that went like "you're a -1000 if you are team jeremiah" people seriously putting people down and their LOOKS for liking a character and a ship that isn't endgame than the one that is endgame? And their defense mechanism is what? "Oh it's a joke" no honey. You meant it. You wouldn't have posted it if you didn't mean it. And now the final gambit will come out soon and they are just attacking eachother like wolves (not all but like most). It's a toxic community and I prefer booktube much much more. It's a safe space.
100% agree, if you don’t like a book on tik tok it is the end of the world
@@whatsdesreading exactly...also I just edited my comment after u answered lmao maybe u wanna read the rest as well cuz that is seriously a problem as well and I forgot to mention it
Did you read zodiac academy yet it's so much fun and such a great book
I loved this video so much!!
I believe that the platform is one of the biggest threats to society today
tiktok comments are either the greatest things i've ever seen- hilarious, encouraging, positive... OR they're the meanest most toxic things i've ever seen. there is no in between lol
pleaaasssee finish acotar!!! i love it soo much it gets better after the first one
ily destiny
I will never understand ppl who gate keep…reading...????
does she have an in depth love and other words video? I am confused bc the plot twists seemed kinda similar yet different.
I like Bucky Barnes TikTok lol...booktok is 50/50 I love book recs but this one guy said he's coming for booktok...he meant nothing by it but he's a good looking guy and people are always saying hey this guy looks like a booktok guy but when he says it himself people have a problem with it. Like if u cast urself as a booktok guy its a problem...I always have dark mafia romance recs and I love it...yea people ive seen on TikTok hate colleen hoover with a passion...A CLOCKWORK READER hates colleen hoover with a passion...her one video is nothing but bashing her
I would looovvveeee to see your opinions on Taylor Jenkins Reid’s books. I’ve recently become obsessed!😻
finally someone else who doesn’t think the spanish love deception was great! i gave it a 2 stars, i really did not enjoy lina, i felt like she was way too immature
I loved the first book of The Summer I Turned Pretty and I've watched the show and I really liked it and I have just started reading the 2nd book in the series.
I liked the show and loved the first book in the series as well, however, the 2nd book was quite boring to me and the third was messy. This is completely opinion based tho!! Lmk what you think of the 2nd and 3rd, I’d like to get different perspectives on them!:)
@@emmisouliere5456 I will let you know!
@@claireduckworth7659 okay! I hope you like them:)
@@emmisouliere5456 Thanks! I did really like the first one and I am currently on chapter 5 of the 2nd book!
@@emmisouliere5456 I agree with this!! The 2nd book was ok to me but the third massacred all of the characters imo. But the show is so mf good!!!
can someone please tell me why i cant get the old addicted to you cover to match perfectly with the rest of the series and why are they so expensive when you order from australia :(
finaaallllly a video des
Have you read The Great Alone or The Nightingale?
a lot of your takes are very privileged to be honest. only reading books without any diversity or inclusivity is kind of strange, and authors like colleen hoover deserve to be called out for lack thereof. most booktok books are characters that are white and skinny, as well as the authors. it’s important that we call out this behaviour, and start diversifying our bookshelves.
of course you’re allowed to read what you like but we shouldn’t get annoying with POC who hate on these types of books
and i know you slightly mentioned diversity in this video but we should make it a bigger conversation
Doe anyone know what the name of her website is? Btw ily destiny! Also completely agree
Hi destiny, ily