Both have positives and negatives. Wargroove is probably better balanced (since it can be patched) but I liked dual strikes art style and characters because I grew up with them. Nostalgia and all that.
I genuinely hope to see another one of these advance wars skits. I loved the heck out of the gameboy games way back so it's neat seeing some of this stuff again.
Wargroove has its charm, I will say the problem is the CO's in Wargroove just all seam kinda basic. The CO's in AW are incredible having personlities that compleatly refect their mechanics. Grit is a slow layback character who will sit back, build loads of of artilery and turtle you into submission. Max is like hia troop are head on and uses brute force to win. And Sturm is you Domonating daddy who you fear Point being from the music, mechnics to the the flavor text, the advqnce wars comander were just memorable and that was its edge
I tried my hands on Advance Wars Reboot Camp. I was so impressed and felt that the game is for me. After finishing it, I think it’ll be nice if I play a game with the same mechanics as Advance Wars but in a different theme. I heard about Wargroove 2 in a Nintendo direct. And so I went for it. Then also played the first game because I want to continue my experience.
I wonder if Tiny Metal will suddendly pop into one of these. It is tecnically another spiritual successor to AW. Fun vid btw! The struggle is 2real4me ;-;
You know, i think i never trought about the restriction of the pipes, i stop thinking about it too much when any not aerial unit, specially submarines, can block the movement of aerial units XD as for the carpet, as you see in 1:43 this tiles were made for interior structures, like the first level in the campaign that is a castle, technically it should have a wall over it so flying units can traverse, Fire Emblem for example miss the memo and structures have no roof whatsoever, how else do you think flyers trespass and even sit on walls. ;P
Im assuming that the carper and all those tiles inside castle doors represent a castle unterior so the flying thing ki da makes sense. To a degree. Still calling BS on the black hole pipes tho... (That Black hole pipe runner casually sliding un and deleting those downed units made my day)
I guess the carpet are forbiding flying and wheeled units in order to make sense... Cause it would be weird to see a bigass trebuchet or a bunch of flying wizards INSIDE a castle
so what about maps where people put carpets in the middle of the field with no relation to its design then? I wouldn't make this if they actually lock their "indoor" tiles to strictly as an indoor environment scenario, but you are free to place these "indoor" tiles in a open field, so yeah.
@@NCHProductions Welp game design isn't for everyone x) but that's just my thoughts on the red carpet for *solo* missions. I'm clueless for the pipe though
Have you seen The Saga of Tanya the Evil? Is about an alternative magical World War 1.5 where a salaryman is born as a little girl with magic and joins an aerial mage unit.
I guess the idea of the carpets and floors is that they're indoors areas and thus not practical for the bigger units to 'fit in'... but then I think golems just throw that concept into the woodchipper? WG is really weird on its tile rules sometimes XD
I sure hope to see more of those. Keep 'em coming! If you end up with ideas to contrast every different mechanic between the two games, it could end up being one of the best unintended tutorials ever made.
The silliest part about this is that walls/pipes are somehow tall enough to block flying units, yet ranged units can fire over them just fine, even if the target is "indoors."
I kind of assumed that tiles like the carpet were supposed to be "indoors" with the ceiling not displayed for the sake of making things easier to see and understand. So it makes sense that you couldn't get flying units or such into the area.
@@NCHProductions True enough. Plus if you consider the ability to shoot across walls and such with the idea that the flagstone and carpet is supposed to be inside, you've got to have some reality-warping window magic going on.
Well of course no vehicle can cross a carpet. They don't clean their threads. Not like people would simply roll out the red carpet to get it dirty now would they?
One of my biggest disadvantages in Wargroove (Specifically the second game) is that you cannot move units on wheels (like the trebuchet, the ballista, and the wagon) into a forest. Which is a shame because the forest provides good cover. Meanwhile in Advance Wars all of the land units can go into forests.
The reason Carpets are unmovable is because they are inside a castle/strcture, which would make no sence for air units to be inside. Pipes on the other hand Make no sence.
Well, the thing with the pipes is they are MASSIVE. Almost as tall as the cities... Still Flying over them shouldn't be hard, but yeah... They are F-ing massive.
I just realized that the witch might have the advantage if it's critical attack does more damage than a standard fighter attack. If it does do more damage, then the A.V. side is screwed since they don't have allied witches. In other words, the witches always get to do a critical attack.
Ok but are we not going to mention how despite the fact that nothing can fly over castle walls/pipes, it's still possible to shoot arrows/missiles over them?
@@NCHProductions Ah FOW...NCH. A question for you. What happens when a moving vehicle or a large unstoppable creature in motion meets something smaller?
nope, I'm doing it cause I love the series and want to do a series on both franchises. even regardless they get not much views, I want to give their respective fandom some content they can enjoy.
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I love how both sides are complaining about their own terrain oddities in this skit.
Piperunner displaying it's superiority. 👍
its*
@@Telogoryouyr'e gay
I think the flagstones and carpets are cool. It's like the castle has an inside where larger/airborne units can't go.
A lot here saying "I'm gonna go buy/play wargroove" and I'm here wanting to go back to advance wars dual strike.
I know it will never happen but I'd love an actual sequel to that game. Dual Strike was amazing and Days of Ruin just...wasn't.
I'm still waiting for a sequel to advanced wars.
I can’t find my copy or my ds to go back to advanced wars
@@finaladvance5085 Use emulator on your PC or Phone or whatever
Both have positives and negatives. Wargroove is probably better balanced (since it can be patched) but I liked dual strikes art style and characters because I grew up with them. Nostalgia and all that.
Rolling out the red carpet has a brand new meaning now.
The Jet acting like a Human at the end was oddly adorable.
Jet-Chan?
*NO*
@@enzoponce5832 *_YES_*
Well person controls the fighter
Jet Man from Megaman Unlimited!
@@Victor-056 F NO
I genuinely hope to see another one of these advance wars skits. I loved the heck out of the gameboy games way back so it's neat seeing some of this stuff again.
That piperunner brought me back, favorite part of the video
Another one heck yeah! Now I need to get back into playing wargroove.
Your last 3 vids convinced me to buy Wargroove. I freaking loved it!
I'm a bit dissapointed in wargroove but I stamd that it is a good game.
Wargroove has its charm, I will say the problem is the CO's in Wargroove just all seam kinda basic.
The CO's in AW are incredible having personlities that compleatly refect their mechanics.
Grit is a slow layback character who will sit back, build loads of of artilery and turtle you into submission.
Max is like hia troop are head on and uses brute force to win.
And Sturm is you Domonating daddy who you fear
Point being from the music, mechnics to the the flavor text, the advqnce wars comander were just memorable and that was its edge
@mrgerminaro I mean thats fair, you don't sudden spikes of difficulty like 'Showstopper'
I tried my hands on Advance Wars Reboot Camp. I was so impressed and felt that the game is for me. After finishing it, I think it’ll be nice if I play a game with the same mechanics as Advance Wars but in a different theme. I heard about Wargroove 2 in a Nintendo direct. And so I went for it. Then also played the first game because I want to continue my experience.
0:47 that's a lot of damage
I wonder if Tiny Metal will suddendly pop into one of these.
It is tecnically another spiritual successor to AW.
Fun vid btw! The struggle is 2real4me ;-;
Oddities like this make a game unique, I loved how that plane can move like a person
Should've have glanced over how stupid is that air units and ground units can't pass by each other, lol
I love seeing this mini serie, it just bring me back so much memories of advance wars.
like, how tall are the pipes/walls if you can fly over mountains?
also who dares to drive over a red carpet!! (no joke on why you can't fly over it..)
You know, i think i never trought about the restriction of the pipes, i stop thinking about it too much when any not aerial unit, specially submarines, can block the movement of aerial units XD as for the carpet, as you see in 1:43 this tiles were made for interior structures, like the first level in the campaign that is a castle, technically it should have a wall over it so flying units can traverse, Fire Emblem for example miss the memo and structures have no roof whatsoever, how else do you think flyers trespass and even sit on walls. ;P
I mean i sometimes drive through red carpet
Using my rc car XD
At least red carpet can be explained with "magic". But the pipes though
I saw it as those carpet tiles being "indoors" spaces where theres no room to fly
Because magic carpet.
I guess you can't fly over the carpet beacouse the carpet it's under a castle(?)
Yeah, that's the idea. Don't fly indoors.
@ Or ride, tanks or horses can't go trough that too
Im assuming that the carper and all those tiles inside castle doors represent a castle unterior so the flying thing ki da makes sense. To a degree. Still calling BS on the black hole pipes tho...
(That Black hole pipe runner casually sliding un and deleting those downed units made my day)
...Why can't they just fly over the castle?
LOL, they didn't expect that. I wait with joy(sadness) the last chapter. Good work!
Still waiting for the Trapped! joke when an AW unit runs into something at this point
I guess the carpet are forbiding flying and wheeled units in order to make sense... Cause it would be weird to see a bigass trebuchet or a bunch of flying wizards INSIDE a castle
so what about maps where people put carpets in the middle of the field with no relation to its design then? I wouldn't make this if they actually lock their "indoor" tiles to strictly as an indoor environment scenario, but you are free to place these "indoor" tiles in a open field, so yeah.
@@NCHProductions Welp game design isn't for everyone x) but that's just my thoughts on the red carpet for *solo* missions. I'm clueless for the pipe though
HOLY FUCK YOU ANIMATED THIS? OMG ITS BEAUTIFUL
I love these, please never stop
Dammit Lash, get your damn Piperunners out of here!
Lmao screw those pipe/walls
I'm hoping we will see AW DS broken mechanic, CO TAG POWER!!
Eagle + Sammy = ezpz
Maybe they don't want to Dirty the Carpet or Something
I honestly would love to see a total aerial warfare between jets and mages on flying brooms! Especially in CGI!
Have you seen The Saga of Tanya the Evil? Is about an alternative magical World War 1.5 where a salaryman is born as a little girl with magic and joins an aerial mage unit.
@@fenixmonomer8974 Never heard of it but thank you for telling me.
I guess the idea of the carpets and floors is that they're indoors areas and thus not practical for the bigger units to 'fit in'... but then I think golems just throw that concept into the woodchipper? WG is really weird on its tile rules sometimes XD
I sure hope to see more of those. Keep 'em coming!
If you end up with ideas to contrast every different mechanic between the two games, it could end up being one of the best unintended tutorials ever made.
Ahh I'm glad another episode came out even if it was short this time. These are great.
Yet you can easily fire over them.
Talk about rolling out the red carpet...
Ngl they should do this with more than just these games cuz dis stuff be kewl
Finally! I've been waiting for months. Maybe turn 5 will be naval comparison?
The silliest part about this is that walls/pipes are somehow tall enough to block flying units, yet ranged units can fire over them just fine, even if the target is "indoors."
Yaaay,i LOVE this serie. Advance wars is a serie i really like and Wargrove is really fin. I hope more episodes ^^
0:34 Botta be honest about the planes...
*They should have exploded to smithereens* Dx
I kind of assumed that tiles like the carpet were supposed to be "indoors" with the ceiling not displayed for the sake of making things easier to see and understand. So it makes sense that you couldn't get flying units or such into the area.
still not stopping anyone to put a carpet in the middle of the field. it isn't restrained to terrain placement logic in the editor
@@NCHProductions True enough. Plus if you consider the ability to shoot across walls and such with the idea that the flagstone and carpet is supposed to be inside, you've got to have some reality-warping window magic going on.
Well of course no vehicle can cross a carpet.
They don't clean their threads.
Not like people would simply roll out the red carpet to get it dirty now would they?
I forgot about Black Hole's Pipe Turrets!! Thanks :D
bomber:I can destroy pipe seams.
fighter:It's up to you.
Just seeing that Black Hole pipe runner come up and kill everyone just made my day
The power of fine carpetting!
...so who did the big mobile turret belong to? It destroyed both sides, after all...
The enemy
Black hole. If those colors are any indication
Lash bringing new meaning to "Terrain Tactics".
actually that turret thing is a unit in Advance wards dual strike, it is called a Piperunner
@@cid3303 which was developed by Lash. Soooo
love your animations!
Missed opportunity for an air unit to get stopped by an underwater sub.
These are so good.
I never knew I needed this
One of my biggest disadvantages in Wargroove (Specifically the second game) is that you cannot move units on wheels (like the trebuchet, the ballista, and the wagon) into a forest.
Which is a shame because the forest provides good cover.
Meanwhile in Advance Wars all of the land units can go into forests.
Cant wait to see the day when Wargove finds out about the true power of Money.
Piperunner demonstrating why it's the best unit.
Love this serie!
The reason Carpets are unmovable is because they are inside a castle/strcture, which would make no sence for air units to be inside. Pipes on the other hand Make no sence.
dosen't stop people from randomly puting carpet tiles in the middle of the field.
Well, the thing with the pipes is they are MASSIVE. Almost as tall as the cities... Still Flying over them shouldn't be hard, but yeah... They are F-ing massive.
That piperunner though.
Okay my feared begged me to get wargroove and now you upload something of it.
Ooh~ Another one! Also, I got Wargroove because of you.
Which is why AW 1 doesn't have pipes
I was worried we'd not get here!
I just realized that the witch might have the advantage if it's critical attack does more damage than a standard fighter attack. If it does do more damage, then the A.V. side is screwed since they don't have allied witches. In other words, the witches always get to do a critical attack.
Man those piperunners are pain in the ass
Wowie! This is Ultra-amazing!
Rigth? :D
so... the wall and wierd terrains win... trump would be proud....
I think that plane needs to work on their posture. Gonna be a hunchback later in life if they slump over like that.
More please! Can we see them do teamup battles now or something?
I was wondering that too.
Groovy.
Love it!
fucking walls always getting in the way
I'm really worry about that Chucklefish's problem...
I thought it was only problem of starbound but wargroove's steam evaluation is also going bad
Ha I am still playing the first game, so everything is ahead of me
I mean I got the carpets are inside a castle so naturally they can't fly there but walls I have to agree on that one.
Then tell me why is there no terrain rules in placing carpets.
good
Ok but are we not going to mention how despite the fact that nothing can fly over castle walls/pipes, it's still possible to shoot arrows/missiles over them?
Epic
Actually I think the Carpet and flagstone Tiles suppose to represent Indoors but I never played the games so I dont know much about the Maps.
You should make one about the FOW (Fog of War). Though, does War Groove have anything like that?
Yeah wg has it
@@NCHProductions Ah FOW...NCH. A question for you. What happens when a moving vehicle or a large unstoppable creature in motion meets something smaller?
i want to see wargroove characters fail/lose
@mrgerminaro i dont remember all of it anymore but i think that one was a tie.
@@Link3000XD No. Nell won, Mercia was killed.
Hahaha I forgot about that.
Can confirm, pipes are annoying as f...
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sad jet is sad.
Will you cover other factions like the Florans and Felheim?
Flying in Garry's mod be like:
The fighters were cute
Don't forget that planes can't fly over infantry! And fighters can't even attack infantry, or vice versa...
Noice
Chucklefish is paying you for these right?
nope, I'm doing it cause I love the series and want to do a series on both franchises. even regardless they get not much views, I want to give their respective fandom some content they can enjoy.
if chucklefish would just fix the online, the game would be a 100% gods blessing~
Don't remind me what they did! It's just when it happened the same as Ion Fury.
if theres a custom map where people use carpet tiles and such, yeah, flying units cant fly over carpet tiles.
I wish Chucklefish wasn't such a shitty company, their games are gold...
Is this actually sponsored by either of these franchises? Because the tutorializing reminds me of the Yugioh anime.
No. It's not sponsored at all. I did them cause I'm so fan of both series
@@NCHProductions thank you
Wait aren't air to air missiles long range i mean i know that its just a game but still
Is there a lobby in wargroove yet?
Row row fight the power
Who invented these walls
Online its pretty dead if you intention its to play multiplayer with randoms.
Wow, turn based strategy games... When's Waifu Emblem?
Never cause I never played fire emblem
0:43 What's that cannon doing there?
1:10 Doesn't sit well with me.
XD
:D
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