I feel like whether or not they are too strong really depends on what they intend the anomaly role to be. If one were to only consider the damage output of the attribute anomalies, they *should* result in a higher total dps because the attribute needs to be built up before the damage is received. otherwise, if the damage was on par or even less than an equivalent attacker, there wouldn't be much point to use an anomaly in the first place since attacker's damage output is more consistent. The big problem with this reasoning however is that anomaly can be procced so quickly that it is hardly relevant. On top of that, Anomalies like physical and ice are even less restricted because they deal their damage in one strike, allowing them to maximize their anomaly damage on their own, and then even with the other dot anomalies, disorder allows you to condense the damage and even get extra damage because of it. It's part of why Jane feels so powerful to me amongst anomalies, as physical can be spammed without disorder much better than Ether or Shock. If anomaly is not to be a specialized damage dealer, then realistically they should act as a specialized bridge between the attack and support role, as you could then have anomaly damage deal less overall dps to an attacker, while also applying debuffs that aren't quite as affective as a true support, while doing so in a manner that isn't the same as either main role. As it stands right now Anomaly is effectively a form of burst attacker, where rather than having each attack being strong, the damage is backloaded onto the attribute anomaly. Now I can't say for certain how I think Attackers in total feel compared to Anomaly, as the only S rank attacker I have is Soldier 11, she herself at least does feel remarkably lackluster, and not just in terms of damage output. The very premise of her kit is two things. One: time every basic attack for boosted fire damage and Two: Activate effects that make it so you don't have to time it anymore. The gimmick of trying to have to deal with the main gimmick as little as possible feels like rather poor design.
Haven't watched the vid but my 2 cents to this question is a simple YES. If this keeps up they're gonna have to give the attackers a more substantial purpose
I think the issue is people are coping in the same way as you. Hoyoverse has gotten more predatory ever since the over-success of genshin impact and it shows. Just look at honkai star rail for instance, the powercreep that happens there makes your characters irrelevant overnight, and the same kind of balance is being applied to zenless zone zero. Everyone who thinks otherwise are just coping. Even honkai impact 3rd has been getting hit with the massive powercreep imbalance as well. There is no wait and see, the anomaly characters are built to ruin the balance so hoyoverse can use that as an excuse to then balance the game around anomaly so that crit agents can be completely invalidated, all so they can push FOMO and in turn push you to spend,spend,spend. If you think Miyabi is the tip of the iceberg I got some bad news for you, in all likelihood the idol faction is coming up next after miyabi and you bet that means an ether anomaly unit is coming up next. The only way crit agents will ever be relevant again is if ZZZ devs also implement super-break mechanics and you can tell any honkai star rail player how badly that completely broke the game.
You’re right but for me as long as a character can clear shiyu defence or any challenge in the game comfortably i think it’s fine. The current ice teams no matter how i build them are just so god damn annoying to play, i hate ellens gameplay and i hope Miyabi power creeps her hard.
I though Zhu Yuan was strong compared to my other characters, then I pulled Jane Doe...
I feel like whether or not they are too strong really depends on what they intend the anomaly role to be.
If one were to only consider the damage output of the attribute anomalies, they *should* result in a higher total dps because the attribute needs to be built up before the damage is received. otherwise, if the damage was on par or even less than an equivalent attacker, there wouldn't be much point to use an anomaly in the first place since attacker's damage output is more consistent. The big problem with this reasoning however is that anomaly can be procced so quickly that it is hardly relevant. On top of that, Anomalies like physical and ice are even less restricted because they deal their damage in one strike, allowing them to maximize their anomaly damage on their own, and then even with the other dot anomalies, disorder allows you to condense the damage and even get extra damage because of it. It's part of why Jane feels so powerful to me amongst anomalies, as physical can be spammed without disorder much better than Ether or Shock.
If anomaly is not to be a specialized damage dealer, then realistically they should act as a specialized bridge between the attack and support role, as you could then have anomaly damage deal less overall dps to an attacker, while also applying debuffs that aren't quite as affective as a true support, while doing so in a manner that isn't the same as either main role.
As it stands right now Anomaly is effectively a form of burst attacker, where rather than having each attack being strong, the damage is backloaded onto the attribute anomaly. Now I can't say for certain how I think Attackers in total feel compared to Anomaly, as the only S rank attacker I have is Soldier 11, she herself at least does feel remarkably lackluster, and not just in terms of damage output. The very premise of her kit is two things. One: time every basic attack for boosted fire damage and Two: Activate effects that make it so you don't have to time it anymore. The gimmick of trying to have to deal with the main gimmick as little as possible feels like rather poor design.
Yup, my attacker type hero is way weaker then anamo type
Haven't watched the vid but my 2 cents to this question is a simple YES. If this keeps up they're gonna have to give the attackers a more substantial purpose
I'm hoping lighter evens things out a bit with the buffs provided. especially with the Ellen rerun coming.
Try to mix the audio better
I think the issue is people are coping in the same way as you. Hoyoverse has gotten more predatory ever since the over-success of genshin impact and it shows. Just look at honkai star rail for instance, the powercreep that happens there makes your characters irrelevant overnight, and the same kind of balance is being applied to zenless zone zero. Everyone who thinks otherwise are just coping. Even honkai impact 3rd has been getting hit with the massive powercreep imbalance as well.
There is no wait and see, the anomaly characters are built to ruin the balance so hoyoverse can use that as an excuse to then balance the game around anomaly so that crit agents can be completely invalidated, all so they can push FOMO and in turn push you to spend,spend,spend. If you think Miyabi is the tip of the iceberg I got some bad news for you, in all likelihood the idol faction is coming up next after miyabi and you bet that means an ether anomaly unit is coming up next. The only way crit agents will ever be relevant again is if ZZZ devs also implement super-break mechanics and you can tell any honkai star rail player how badly that completely broke the game.
You’re right but for me as long as a character can clear shiyu defence or any challenge in the game comfortably i think it’s fine. The current ice teams no matter how i build them are just so god damn annoying to play, i hate ellens gameplay and i hope Miyabi power creeps her hard.
Anamoly lol