Honestly, I will pull for degen and walter (while also sparking for mumu) and after that I won't care for meta (except for medics cause I really need s good medic like eyja or Nightingale) so I will only pull for characters I like whether they are good or not
Ch'en advantages: Untargetable, able to charge skills without hitting enemies, higher survivability, can focus damage on a single target. Irene advantages: Higher damage, crowd control, better able to deal with crowds. Degenbrecher: Fuckin all of the above but even better at it. Seriously, it's absolutely ridiculous.
@@knightcomrad6825 not really because irene is still stronger than most 6* operators and chen is a huge SP battery if you are using offense / defense recovery operators like fiammetta, irene, mudrock. degenbrecher is just a *7
Well, I mean... She kills up to 6 shieldguards within her range, even if they were somehow flying, with one skill activation. Every 30 seconds. She's also untargetable during that. And all her damage is proportional, so buffs are very effective
@@skarhabekgreyrukh8601 powercreep means that a new character is stronger than older existing ones without any downsides to balance them out, which is what Degenbrecher does. It's a matter of definition
It's frustrating. I like the animation on her S3 and I don't particularly mind the absurd stats powercreep. But, I vehemently hate that its autorecovery on a Swordmaster.
I heard she has the same VA as Haō from shaman king and that alone was enough reason, her being a carry and me not having uncle horse Chen or Irene it's just a bonus 😊
With her, she makes RS-6 to RS-8 a breeze. So glad I got her. Also if I may add, what makes her really good and how Degen is able to do so much damage is her talent. The fact her talent lets her pierce through defense, more enemy defense = more pierce, is insane. Do correct me if I am wrong though. Anyway, considering the amount of good limited operators we’re getting…I may need to get more money than what I get for being a seasonal tutor Edit correction: the fact her Tremble talent makes it where the affected enemies cannot normally attack is even more insane. It is no wonder Sciel and other Arknights UA-camrs uses Degen so much in IS stages.
@@UnripeBeef I mean mlynar completely replaced SA s3 in 90% of use cases with the 10% being fringe scenarios when he isn't fast enough or the -10% redeployment is necessary, but go off.
maybe i will skip cuz lack resouce and... before i see Wisadel, ulpian or logos, maybe degen must pull cuz degen most broken OP at first release.but now not most broken anymore (but still good for pull)
came back to the game just cuz, why not? and i did two pulls with 5 originite prime and some left over orondum and dropped her. glad to see she's really good :D
Idk if anyone else mentioned it in the comments, but you kinda forgot to say that the tremble status stops them from attacking only if they're blocked iirc
I cleared all the stages in the game except WD-EX-8 and finally I can clear this stage too with degen. yes I do not have chen or irene or exusiai to delete the Emperor's blade.
So I just need eyja alter, surtr, degen, ray, shu, Wisadel, Logos, maybe Mumu cause she looks fun. The recent patches really do make me consider spending. Also lets be honest, Degen is stacked, up to interpretation, but yes she is STACKED. If that's not a reason to pull for her then I don't know what is.
Was going to wait for w alter to pull and give up on her. But then I just said fk it and decided to pull only up until I got the guaranteed 5 star. Got her first pull. I’m happy now 8D
Indeed, ironically, Degen's biggest advantage over irene and Chen - her auto-recover on S3 - would be a huge liability in current CC when you need to put SP-regen penalty to get >=620 risk
Shu and snek man plus the r6 collab looks way more enticing for me so i’ll pass. Besides I guarantee that in 6 to 9 months from now a stronger, even more powerful guard will pop up, so there’s really no incentive when the powercreep is escalating
As a diehard Irene fan I’m kinda sad about the powercreep, I wouldn’t even mind so much about the stats but the auto recovery is just a slap in the face lol. But them’s the breaks in a gacha game I suppose, and Degen is a great character, good luck to everyone pulling for her!
I got her on my first ten-pull. Ironically, I had to do another 2 ten-pulls to get Leto, lmfao. But I also got Hoederer and the 5* rate up on my first ten-pull of that banner. Am I going to die soon? This streak of luck is unprecedented for me.
i dont really need a 3rd op to join mlynar and surtr in the "leave at level 1 out of princible" gang. but mabye if she spooks me ill finally pull the trigger on s2m3 ing the three of them. saving for -(the totally coming soon)- rangers alter anyway.
well my main priority for next 6 month is degen, zuo le, sue, logos, walter. so absolutely gonna pull. didn't have any particular interest in r6 character so skip and ray is kinda replaceable.
If you don't have boss killers or only have 1 of these (Mlynar, Typhon, Surtr, Chalter, Texalter) go for Degenbrecher. If you don't have high pressure defenders (Saria, Hoshiguma, or Nian) go for Shu.
Shu will be a lot harder to get in the future and Degen will get a rerun when her event comes back, she is also more replaceable than shu so go for the Chinese new year banner tbh
Wanna ask, i have a roster of op that i wanna pull, but it doesnt suit with my cost so it makes me to critically think considering the need and want, and this is what i wanna ask, should i pull her even if I have irene and chen? Are both enough if sometimes there’s a content that needs swordsman? I just look for something enought to minimalize my cost for my roster of op.
With shu and wisadel coming, she may be meta but she's not necessarily at all, and she doesnt even compare to wisadel, especially if you have mlynar, if not it's okay too
I'm so glad that I have started saving my pulls since before Eyja alter event. Might even be enough for all these upcoming insane banners and also a spark on Wis'adel banner.
Chens invulnerablility, Irene’s AoE. She’s better than both of them whereas Irene was a side grade to Chen. The only time S3 is “bad” is SP restrictions
Her module is a decent chunk of her dps since tier 1 is a flat 10% atk_scale bonus for her skill, tier 3 taker her talent 1 from 160% to 170% and gives an extra base 50 attack. If you're pulling degen then her module is fairly mandatory to maximise her potential killing power.
I'll skip sadly. My pulls are already reserved for Shu, Ascalon, and Logos. Maybe Ulpian too if there's any resources left. My 600+ pulls seems not enough i feel like..
It's not, what people worry about new Broken Operator means HG will make more cracked crazy hard stage/boss to make those Broken OP can't be abuse U can already see most mechanics these day doesn't allow Helidrop shines Since Mlynar and Wis'adel doing tons Physical DMG, idk how they gonna make stup*d hard stage in future If u talking about bringing them on older stage, it's literally since long time ago it's make it easier, since Surtr exist
Me *knowing there're Ray, Shu, RS6, Logos and Walter banner after this* : "I hope my dear Doctor friends will pull for her"
Same lol, i love degen, but i want to prioritize Ray, Shu, Logos, and Ulpian
Me who’s gonna skipping every banner to save 300 pulls for guaranteed W alter and Texas alter: sorry… doctors…
Edit: I’m desperate for Texas alter
Talked completely like a E Rank luck Dokutah :v just get her on a single ticket bro 🗿
@@Gacha-Ritual-Master I do have E rank luck… but if I do get her with tickets I’ll reply to this comment again
Honestly, I will pull for degen and walter (while also sparking for mumu) and after that I won't care for meta (except for medics cause I really need s good medic like eyja or Nightingale) so I will only pull for characters I like whether they are good or not
Ch'en advantages: Untargetable, able to charge skills without hitting enemies, higher survivability, can focus damage on a single target.
Irene advantages: Higher damage, crowd control, better able to deal with crowds.
Degenbrecher: Fuckin all of the above but even better at it.
Seriously, it's absolutely ridiculous.
Seriously, why does HG envy her with sp/s instead of sp/atk like every other dualstrike guard? It's like they're afraid she wasn't op enough 💀
at this point they might as well downgrade chen and irene to 5 stars haha
@@knightcomrad6825 not really because irene is still stronger than most 6* operators and chen is a huge SP battery if you are using offense / defense recovery operators like fiammetta, irene, mudrock. degenbrecher is just a *7
@@knightcomrad6825its not that chen and irene really that bad, degen is simply build different.....SHE IS HER 🗣️
Ahh yes, the swordsmaster class is filled with Swordsmasters
Just like Tachanka
@@jasperwong2970Lord Tachanka has a massive sword, you just cant see it
Pulling because of her big damage ❌
Pulling because she crushed down Gnosis✅
God I wish I was gnosis
pulling for big boobaaa
I'm pulling because I like horned characters.
based
she even talk about that in her dialogues 😅
Will say she she only gets def ignore when enemies have tremble. Enemies that are resistant to the debuff are *Checks list:* No one
Well, I mean... She kills up to 6 shieldguards within her range, even if they were somehow flying, with one skill activation. Every 30 seconds. She's also untargetable during that. And all her damage is proportional, so buffs are very effective
she is not powercreep. Degenbrecher herself is comparable to Margareth in term of strength. she is Champions of Kazimier.
@@skarhabekgreyrukh8601lore doesn’t matter in this discussion.
@@skarhabekgreyrukh8601 powercreep means that a new character is stronger than older existing ones without any downsides to balance them out, which is what Degenbrecher does. It's a matter of definition
@@skarhabekgreyrukh8601 by that logic, all the Shu siblings are OP yet nobody uses Dusk because she's god awful 90% of the time
@@sidekic1109 huh? I did bring her, with module her DP cost only 25. and she is workable. just saying S3 can stall enemies with looong duration.
I ABSOLUTELY LOVE the chibi style commentary with the choice of the ost. 👍 I will be going for p4 ideally depending how the pulls are going.
thanks for financing the game
@@andreap5420 no problem XD
have 10 pulls and a dream, can't go higher than that with logos incoming
you and me both
Me too
You have 6 months for Logos relax
I do want Shu and Ela too (and maybe Ray) so I gotta plan my pulls wisely
@@Trishaanned With those 3 I understand it more
nah cutter and bibeak are still the best.
Bibeak mentioned ❤
Nah, y'all wrong
It's 100% Tulip
She's definitely the best Nuker Guard in here
I regularly use Tachanka
@@Therestrial205 The true first auto sp regen nuker guard
@@Therestrial205 but tulip is vanguard, doesnt have art dmg & pshy ignore
ah yess nuker with auto recovery
The game's decided to not give me Mlynar, so I'll definetly pull for her.
Game gave me Mlynar on her banner. I hope you get her o7
@@EphemeralMemory I got her!
YES! Definitely pull, how can you ignore that ginormous and juicy attack power!
Two very juicy attack power, yes...
I'm going to pull her because she basically has Heavenly Restriction.
It's frustrating. I like the animation on her S3 and I don't particularly mind the absurd stats powercreep. But, I vehemently hate that its autorecovery on a Swordmaster.
Degen, Shu, Logos, Walter, Ulpian...
Too much food. . .
you can skip ulpipi if you don't play AH squad tbh
@@LeinRa-Reactiondoes Ulpian need the full AH squad to fully utilize the talents or hes good on his own?
@@dnguyen141 He's pretty good with just Gladiia, who you get for free, so still worth pulling
A wise Russian once said:
*LET THEM COME*
Of course i'll pull on her banner...
Only for Leto 😎
I heard she has the same VA as Haō from shaman king and that alone was enough reason, her being a carry and me not having uncle horse Chen or Irene it's just a bonus 😊
Any guesses when she‘ll release on global? Can‘t wait for her anymore
5 days lol
Next June 20-21
Basically next week
21
@@Daredevil-jc7du june 21
Been saving up for her since she was announced. I pray to the RNG for a pot 6 Degen. 🙏
With her, she makes RS-6 to RS-8 a breeze. So glad I got her. Also if I may add, what makes her really good and how Degen is able to do so much damage is her talent. The fact her talent lets her pierce through defense, more enemy defense = more pierce, is insane. Do correct me if I am wrong though. Anyway, considering the amount of good limited operators we’re getting…I may need to get more money than what I get for being a seasonal tutor
Edit correction: the fact her Tremble talent makes it where the affected enemies cannot normally attack is even more insane. It is no wonder Sciel and other Arknights UA-camrs uses Degen so much in IS stages.
She is basically "When the boss became playable but still strong"
Start with this very operator we enter the powercreep era.
mlynar said hi
@@tibbiesthehawk Every gacha 6* operator released after Degen is a powercreep to existing one, same thing can't be said to Mlynar.
@@UnripeBeef I mean mlynar completely replaced SA s3 in 90% of use cases with the 10% being fringe scenarios when he isn't fast enough or the -10% redeployment is necessary, but go off.
I'm saving for ling spark, the most thing I'm looking forward to in the next event is GG and suzu's modules, I even have the mats ready
she's on my "must pull" list, she really fits with my playstyle
She's on my "must pull" list, she really fits with my mommy collection
I've been wanting for her to be playable since I saw her in Break the Ice. Being meta is a nice bonus
playstyle of pressing 1 button to delete everything?
@@Fesax69ngl that playstyle sounds good lmao
@@elderalencar4832 Same I wanted her b/c of Break the Ice
I have 2 reasons NOT to pull her:
1) Shu banner.
2) Damn yellow shirt and a brown costume... who the hell thought it's a good idea.
she may have a skin soon meanwhile who knows ;v
I like her color palette. I think her uniform is more of an olive hue than brown.
I do like her colors. I do think she would look better in darker colors like black though
@@Bingohandlewe could get that as a skin. she was known as The Black Knight during her days as Kazimierz champion
maybe i will skip cuz lack resouce and...
before i see Wisadel, ulpian or logos, maybe degen must pull cuz degen most broken OP at first release.but now not most broken anymore (but still good for pull)
preach it Doctor.. for reals here
She's also permanent, so less value than the incoming limited ops
If I get Degenbrecher before Leto when I'm pulling for Leto I'm gonna riot
came back to the game just cuz, why not? and i did two pulls with 5 originite prime and some left over orondum and dropped her. glad to see she's really good :D
Finally! A grandma! Not just a grandma but a tomboy grandma!
Idk if anyone else mentioned it in the comments, but you kinda forgot to say that the tremble status stops them from attacking only if they're blocked iirc
Me skipping her because I know the next Swordsmaster 6* will powercreep her anyways:
like seriously, the 6 stars on this archetype has done nothing but powercreep each other
You might wait for a good while.
@mysteryofn2955 i dont really mind. her role as a guard is already filled by irene for me and I'd rather get Ray and Ascalon than another guard
@@seirei_mfair. Both are strong and unique, and beautiful of course.
@@mysteryofn2955 Irene has the upperhand on Degenbrecher on one thing. Her massive forehead.
I cleared all the stages in the game except WD-EX-8 and finally I can clear this stage too with degen. yes I do not have chen or irene or exusiai to delete the Emperor's blade.
A pain I try to pull degenbreacher but got stainless instead I just need a boss killer
Definitely save for logos and walter next. Like two top prioritize frfr
I...WANT...THAT...CHIBI!!!!!! So cute!!
Great video as always!
300 pulls saved here, but I'll only do one 6 star for her if she come good, if she doesn't whatever
So I just need eyja alter, surtr, degen, ray, shu, Wisadel, Logos, maybe Mumu cause she looks fun. The recent patches really do make me consider spending. Also lets be honest, Degen is stacked, up to interpretation, but yes she is STACKED. If that's not a reason to pull for her then I don't know what is.
MOMMY PLEASE COME HOME
Because i'm a villain collector, i must pull her
So yesterday I got her after 3rd pulled. The reason I want her because I want to check her bio or profile whatever
No way, I want to save for Walter, logos but she really strong 😂.I also want shu and zuole. Better plan for my pull😢
I will give this banner a 10 pull and that is gotta save up for the rice farmer
Was going to wait for w alter to pull and give up on her. But then I just said fk it and decided to pull only up until I got the guaranteed 5 star. Got her first pull. I’m happy now 8D
Looking at this current CC#1, its clear Degen's weakness will be CC...
Indeed, ironically, Degen's biggest advantage over irene and Chen - her auto-recover on S3 - would be a huge liability in current CC when you need to put SP-regen penalty to get >=620 risk
Degen can be used in CC Underdawn on risk 700+😂
@@sylphyyyyy melee units suffer a lot in Underdawn
@@sylphyyyyy You can get 700+ if you have enough meta units...
@@seirei_m it is, but it doesn't mean u can't use melee
Shu and snek man plus the r6 collab looks way more enticing for me so i’ll pass. Besides I guarantee that in 6 to 9 months from now a stronger, even more powerful guard will pop up, so there’s really no incentive when the powercreep is escalating
Would like to get her, but the second R6S event compels me to save up. So... yeah.
I'll probably skip her, because of Ray and I seldom use her archetype. Also I'm satisfied with Irene.
I wish she was the part of Attack Recovery Niche, but reality is harsh. At least she's become meta operators
Her 3rd skill being auto recovering is the best thing ever, if you use chen you know how annoying it is to have her keep attacking to use her s3
If u don't have mlyar she's ur answer, even if u have him , she is still your answer
i want her since there's no fcking sprite, just legends and rumor. she's guaranteed to be on my team
I got DegenBrecher on my F2P account in my first pull. My main account, however....WHY YOU NO COME TO STEP ON ME!?!?!??!?!!
She’s voiced by Takayama Minami. For me, 100% MUST PULL.
As a diehard Irene fan I’m kinda sad about the powercreep, I wouldn’t even mind so much about the stats but the auto recovery is just a slap in the face lol. But them’s the breaks in a gacha game I suppose, and Degen is a great character, good luck to everyone pulling for her!
I LOVE WOMEN IN PANTS
Overall the only 6 star i will pull until after 8 months
awshit its the powercreep season. except for ray, i will pull you no matter what
The name of the squad lol
well actually these whole team is powercreep
Reasons to get her: *MOMMY!*
I got her on my first ten-pull. Ironically, I had to do another 2 ten-pulls to get Leto, lmfao. But I also got Hoederer and the 5* rate up on my first ten-pull of that banner. Am I going to die soon? This streak of luck is unprecedented for me.
i dont really need a 3rd op to join mlynar and surtr in the "leave at level 1 out of princible" gang. but mabye if she spooks me ill finally pull the trigger on s2m3 ing the three of them.
saving for -(the totally coming soon)- rangers alter anyway.
i plan on doing that for Wisadel cus i like snipers and her s2 seems fun asf
I see you don't like to use broken units as well, it just makes things too easy
Same, my chalter has been here ever since her banner and she’s still e0
she was waifu from the moment i saw her as a boos so yeah
Nah I'd save, for 2 back to back sparks for Ling and Walter.
Me with around 210 pulls rn: "No, I dont think i will"
she does have quite big... horns
I'm pulling for Minami Takayama
Me at 9:35
HUH 😳
Using her skill 3 literally feels like I’m cheating. Just unholy and wrong levels of damage 😂😂😂
Don't even care about her kit. She's a mommy I've been waiting for two fking years damn..
does anyone knwo who the artist for the degenbrecher chibi is?
Got her she costs everything tho
I have Mlynar SA and Chen. Im debating if shes worth pulling. Any advice? F2p btw so pulls are scarce lol
Save for limited, more value, especially wisadel coming
3 similar ops and 3 eras of powercreep 😂
Nah save for Shu
well my main priority for next 6 month is degen, zuo le, sue, logos, walter. so absolutely gonna pull. didn't have any particular interest in r6 character so skip and ray is kinda replaceable.
The time has come, 400 pulls saved (getting Arturia in free 10 helped ngl) for this banner wave from here till Walter, and with some luck even Ulpi.
Is her banner like VirtuosaViviana where she's guaranteed at 300 summons?
Sorry new dokutah
She's standard banner so it's 150 for guaranteed.
After 150 pulls the next 6* is guaranteed to be her*
Yes! So I have time to save for W Alter, thank you guys!
ur dog is adorable
Also despite of the bigger number, the animation of Degen's skill3 seems made with lower effort.
What do you should someone summon for her or shu ??
Which should you recommend if anyone wants to go for only one ??
Need your suggestion.
Pull both xd. Shu probably higher priority but only because she's limited
If you don't have boss killers or only have 1 of these (Mlynar, Typhon, Surtr, Chalter, Texalter) go for Degenbrecher. If you don't have high pressure defenders (Saria, Hoshiguma, or Nian) go for Shu.
Shu will be a lot harder to get in the future and Degen will get a rerun when her event comes back, she is also more replaceable than shu so go for the Chinese new year banner tbh
what Storn said
Tbh, boss killer on average get powercrept aroun 1-2 years. Supportive unit like skalter, shamare & aak is harder to powercrept
man I’m broke
Can I get the pic chibi degenbrecher thanks sir
Wanna ask, i have a roster of op that i wanna pull, but it doesnt suit with my cost so it makes me to critically think considering the need and want, and this is what i wanna ask, should i pull her even if I have irene and chen? Are both enough if sometimes there’s a content that needs swordsman? I just look for something enought to minimalize my cost for my roster of op.
With shu and wisadel coming, she may be meta but she's not necessarily at all, and she doesnt even compare to wisadel, especially if you have mlynar, if not it's okay too
I'm so glad that I have started saving my pulls since before Eyja alter event. Might even be enough for all these upcoming insane banners and also a spark on Wis'adel banner.
Can anyone please tell me who is the operator deployed on top?
Must pull for someone who's about to mald is4 2nd expansion😢
my reason is more simple , coz her va is Fu Hua’s (honkai impact)❤❤ hahaha
sorry man,i'm too poor for her
why guaranteed limited needs 300 pulls,don't they know you need like half year to get 300 pulls
theres games that release limiteds more often. but true. although honestly, most of the time, limiteds appear around 150 pulls anyways
@@seirei_m not for spark sadly...have to farm 300
her voice sounds familiar... same VA as HI3rd fu hua?
Yes. So Irene and Degen is Kiana and Fu Hua together once again in another gacha.
@@dekkers5897 well we also have teriteri as mumu and mei as ho'olheyak, so only bronya and seele are missing here
@@haiffy snowsant is bronya VA and Blaze is Selee
@@oturan9728 so that's why i feel like HSR's seele kinda sounds like a character from arknights, that's all complete then
when is the next update?, i need her ASAP
21 june
She is Chen(guard) upgrade with steroid lol
not just chen guard, even irene dude. Even Irene + Chen cant compete with a single Degen
@@seirei_m ok 😂
Chens invulnerablility, Irene’s AoE. She’s better than both of them whereas Irene was a side grade to Chen.
The only time S3 is “bad” is SP restrictions
What about module for her?
Her module is a decent chunk of her dps since tier 1 is a flat 10% atk_scale bonus for her skill, tier 3 taker her talent 1 from 160% to 170% and gives an extra base 50 attack. If you're pulling degen then her module is fairly mandatory to maximise her potential killing power.
Unfortunately shes gonna get skipped because money doesnt grow on trees 😂
Welp skip for me, I have only 300+ pulls and Shu, Walter,maybe Ela, Ray ony radar. Someone must be sacrificed
I'll skip sadly. My pulls are already reserved for Shu, Ascalon, and Logos. Maybe Ulpian too if there's any resources left.
My 600+ pulls seems not enough i feel like..
But, is she the Arknight?
No, Amiyi is and always will be the Arknight 😤
I got Eben instead of her 😭😭
He isn't even new character for me 😭
E1 art > E2 art ?
ak become more n more ez game
It's not, what people worry about new Broken Operator means HG will make more cracked crazy hard stage/boss to make those Broken OP can't be abuse
U can already see most mechanics these day doesn't allow Helidrop shines
Since Mlynar and Wis'adel doing tons Physical DMG, idk how they gonna make stup*d hard stage in future
If u talking about bringing them on older stage, it's literally since long time ago it's make it easier, since Surtr exist
Shes good and a hot waifu what more do u need