It's fucking disgusting children are being taught that a Prince married another Prince. Royalty should be abolished and not taught to children as a positive
true , the marriage must be banned and biological males to caress other biological males and have sex ....so yes ban the marriage because is disgusting and nazi
Because Obama was taking about not promoting or fanning hatred and division among the American people and that is all they did for the last 4 years!!!!!! Hypocrites!!!!!
Well it’s 2024 and it’s still perverse to impose sexual preferences onto YOUNG children. They should not even have sexual ideas in their innocent young minds. It’s sick. And I am a Christian and God says the act is an abomination to Him. I will not apologize or oppose God’s Word.
@@joshdepaola4002 Why call yourself lame if that’s how you identify? This is a homophobic way of referring to yourself if you’re gay. It implies that gay is an insult. If that’s your choice, it seems confusing but that’s your own choice.
@@moonscape_3767 did I say that I think gay people are lame... people say “that’s gay” when somethings lame and there’s nothing I can do to change that I just thought the wording of the title of the video was funny “Democrats answer gay question”
@@satan3950 The mere fact that you chose that name 😉 Some BS blooding gurgling demon that you think you are... You're actually just a whisper and a whimper.
The real question is, why is someone who is gay or lesbian different than you are? They are not different. They are humans like every heterosexual person. Stop dividing people and saying that „he is different, they are different“, bc of their skin color, race, sexuality etc. That sounds wrong. It causes division and separation between people, bc we are slapping the word „different“ on anything that isn‘t normal to us. I‘m glad the rules changed now and gay marriage is allowed.
Snowflake I'm glad they could get married but that MIGHT change cause they R GONNA revisit that issue sooner or later...I JUST HOPE it STAY the SAME as it is NOW...I AIN'T gonna even hold you...😑
It's like "gay" is used by them as a primary identity- like a different species or something. They put it at the front in a strange way instead of just simply loving who they love.
Marriage is a traditional religious institution defined as being between a man and a woman, which was understood by everyone -- including Obama and Biden, see other CNN videos -- less than a decade ago. Asking "Why is someone who is gay different? They are humans like every heterosexual person." is like asking "Why is someone who hasn't studied medicine different? They are humans like every doctor." to justify letting people practice medicine without a license. That's just not what the medical license *is,* just like marriage just *is not* between two men or two women, nor is it "just a piece of paper", nor is it "just showing you love each other". That's what flowers are for.
@@karelglasner2673He cheated on his wife, had a kid with that mistress, denied being the father of the kid, later admitted to being father of the kid when the evidence was overwhelming, and then filed for divorce against his wife Elizabeth (she died while they were waiting for the 1-year waiting period for divorce that North Carolina mandates). Back then, scandals like that would finish you on either party. He might have survived those mistakes today, but times are different today than they were back then. He also was never an impressive candidate for President or for VP in 2004.
@@Kimberedkey What? I'm pointing out that they claim the slippery slope is a fallacy when it clearly isn't. Take any major issue. Once upon a time they said about abortion that it should be "safe, legal, and RARE" and now they offer up to birth and say "shout your abortion!". Years ago they said gay people just want to be able to marry and we now see them not only want to shove it down children's throats, but you have people on the left arguing for throuples to get married. Years ago they said they only wanted to remove Confederate statues and now we see them taking down statues of everyone from Teddy Roosevelt to renaming schools named after Lincoln and Washington. Hell, they even renamed the mascots of George Washington University from the Colonials to the Revolutionaries. It's nothing more than an Americanized version of Maoism.
Simply put... its wrong to not educate your children on same sex if theyre getting exposed to hetero marriage... we would wanna steer our children away from ignorance. This clip is only 12 years old and did not age well. These are grown people getting asked basic questions... its like asking should kids get exposed to people of color. Ofc they should.
It is kind of an odd terminology, isn’t it? I think it’s mostly because queer people have often been the ‘mysterious’ outsiders, like the ocean, rather than centrally annoying or hated. That’s why, going back even to the early days, there are plenty of stories and films about cishet people learning about queer people for the first time and just being like, “Nifty!”
2nd grade yeah NO and it's up to their parents and NOT the state who currently if I could I'd yank any of my tax dollars going to that FAILURE of an institution the public school system preparing our students for failure daily 🤣
@Jamieishere1 Over the past five decades, rulings of the United States Supreme Court have served to infringe upon the rights of Americans to enjoy freedom of speech relating to religious matters. Such infringements include the outlawing of prayer in schools and of the display of the Ten Commandments in public places. These rulings have not reflected a neutrality toward religious denominations but a hostility toward religious thought. They have served to undermine the foundation of our moral code
@@vm99125 She was asked about New York's legislation of gay marriage and if the rest of the nation should follow a suit, and she answered no, in the state of New York.
@prime440 The comedian in question is more of a philosopher and their points stand on their own merit, irrespective of their maker's occupation. You would have to justify that your foundation was a moral code before making that claim. 2 John 1:10 "10 If anyone comes to you and does not bring this teaching, do not take them into your house or welcome them." Luke 19:27 is another interesting teaching (a parable about spiritual wealth as far as I remember).
@prime440 When you impose your concept of right and wrong on to other people by restricting them from sharing the same rights as you have, despite their potential realization of those rights having no impact upon you, that's intolerance. It sounds like you do wish to impose your beliefs on to your kids. It's a shame none of the panel mentioned the word "censorship" because that is what was being debated... whether or not a specific aspect of reality should be censored from children.
Its amazing how similar the rhetoric that was used against the gay community is to todays rhetoric against the trans community. And hopeful that eventually it will die down much like it did for them
@iluvthebass3 Sure, though 1 Peter 2:18 is of course NT and much of the OT is incompatible with an omnibenevolent God. Furthermore, the bible says that God is unchanging (Malachi 3:6, Hebrews 13:8, Psalm 102:25-27, James 1:17 etc). In Matthew 5:18 Jesus says that: "until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law". Earth is still here... So your claim seems to be contradicted by scripture.
@prime440 Anyway, hopefully my suggestion that you may lie to your kids wasn't too offensive and sorry I can't get in to really debating the mini-topics you raised with you. To do so would require much more discussion and an actual analysis of the reasons given for those judgements by the judges and proponents of those viewpoints (which would include a thorough knowledge of the specifics of those rules/judgements, which I don't currently have).
@prime440 These rulings actually sound like they protect religious freedom because they prevent one religion from pushing it's beliefs and doctrines in to other people's daily lives. The bible was used to justify things such as denying women the vote, slavery and anti-miscegenation... you shouldn't want it to be the foundation of any moral code. As George Carlin points out, honouring your parents should be based upon performance. watch?v=p-RGN21TSGk
@Jamieishere1 suggesting a foundation of moral code is a healthier belief system then an immoral code, and quoting a comedian in terms of a serious matter does not hold much weight The lessons that jesus christ talks about have great meaning and are of sound advice, the teachings of atheists that since no god exists there isnt any thing to be morally accountable for.as long as it doesnt hurt anyone.you always pick out things to support your point of view using the bible ,
How is there no moral accountability for people who don't believe in God? That's absolute nonsense. Those who don't believe in God don't commit sins that they know will hurt others. That's moral accountability. If anything, if the moral reason you don't commit sin is because of fear of some God's wrath and NOT the affect it has on others, YOU are the one with no moral accountability. You are only not committing said sins for fear of what might happen to you. You are selfish
@snsrktl Being gay is not normal. A person can be abnormally kind compassionate and considerate. Why is normality relevant? Nobody is arguing that LGBT people are righteous, just as nobody says that about heteros... it is simply refuted that LGBT people are unrighteous, not advanced that they are righteous. How America was built isn't necessarily relevant to how it should be now though it wasn't built by the bible anyway. It is a secular nation, with religion specifically kept separate.
@prime440 My opinions are however generally demonstrably correct and/or self-evident. All opinions are not equal. Some are correct (or a closer approximation of reality), while others are not (or less so). That a book says something (proverbs 21:30) does not make it true or even have any baring on whether or not it is true. Many other religions likely have exactly the same kind of thing in their magic books tbh. I can disprove that God is just btw (which would disprove him).
@prime440 Any positive point made by Jesus or any aspect of Christianity or any other religion can be made independently of that religion and independently of the it's accompanying supernatural superstitions. I.E. it can be made in an entirely secular way. Atheist's understanding and interpretation of morality varies. It isn't monolithic. That the bible may hold some good advise is unsurprising, given how big it is. This does not give the bible sole and everlasting claim to it.
@prime440 Public places are for the public, not random members to display things relevant to them (the ten commandments), especially not at the tax payers expense. If you want to put on a display obviously you need to do it on land you've paid for, not shared land. The things you raise would require going in to specifics to debate properly. Why is prayer relevant to schools? I assume it is prayer as part of schooling, NOT private prayer that is outlawed.
@iluvthebass3 You Wrote: ".I will do whatever the bible say so" The bible sanctions slavery e.g. Leviticus 25:44 and 1 Peter 2:18. As the other commenter says, it also commands stoning to death of disobedient children (Leviticus 20:9), which is reiterated in exodus. I recommend you read all of Numbers chapter 31 to really appreciate God's omnibenevolent nature. In Leviticus 11:11 (and surrounding verses), eating shellfish is branded an abomination. Leviticus also condemns haircuts+shaving.
I am 65 and was around neighbors of same sex couples. I WAS NEVER AFRAID OF THEM. I didn’t need that kind of information at school to know that. This is ridiculous arguments about teaching YOUNG children about sexual preferences. It’s not ethical or moral to impose such thoughts upon young innocent children. It’s actually perverse
Don't tell me that (not that I care actually) you're gay and voting for a republican? Ha, and I thought 'gay christian' was the ultimate oxymoron already. Go figure.
Elementary schoolers don’t need to hear about it in school. By middle school they’ll hear all about it online and from friends anyway. The whole argument is pointless
Obama said so much and yet so little. Also why is it divisive to object when somebody BRINGS that content to my child? It’s divisive for the teacher to tell that to kids without parents’ consent.
2007 seemed like such a simpler time. Reading a story about two princes was controversy in Massachusetts of all places?? It’s now controversial in states like Florida to prohibit teaching about homosexuality to kindergartners 😭
That's right because our education system is at the bottom so until Basic education the reason we pay taxes for public education raises its standards, there will be no conversation about random things like that.
I like how they all refer to what they tell their children and not what would they do in office. But hear Obama saying " I always tell my kids not to be afraid of people that ARE DIFFERENT, becaus I was considered different before". Therefore he agrees to consider gay people on the same category that black people were put before and he is OK about it.
For the love of everything real, tangible and good you people seriously need to stop comparing being black with being gay. Why not compare having polio with being gay or being born a redhead with being gay? Inappropriate? Yes! So is comparing my blackness to someone’s gayness. Ty.
honestly, john's answer is just stupid, like, how about we also teach children about the after-life, wars, cheating (which edwards really loves btw), and depression? surely this won't be too old for their age and will destroy their innocence!🤦♂
@Jamieishere1You are entitled to your opinion as i am, however i will stick to my belief in jesus christ and continue to believe that GOD has to be a just GOD to be a real GOD.Proverbs 21:30
@@jrowlet where in that passage does it say "A man shall not marry another man"? From what I understand that's about switching loyalty from your parents to your wife.
@@jak_the_buddha Matthew 19:5: "For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, and the two will become one flesh." Jesus orders a man in this passage to leave his parents and marry one wive in a heterosexual monogamous traditional marriage (not for a man to marry a man, not for a woman to marry a woman, and not for a man to marry multiple men or for a woman to marry multiple men in polygamy). If you want to reject the Bible as an atheist/agnostic and justify homosexuality, you would be wrong in rejecting God and His True Presence and His Word in the Bible, but at least you would not be using the Bible to justify it. God condemns LGBT behaviors in several passages in both the Old and New Testaments. To claim that the Bible allowed the behaviors when it has several passages that prohibit the behaviors is an absurd oxymoron (like claiming that liquid water is dry). Again, homosexuality only makes sense in secular humanistic relativism (where humans make their own morals in the absence of God and His Word in the Bible). To claim that homosexuality is right, you would have to argue that God is either wrong or not real, and you would have to claim that the Bible is not the error-free Word of God (because you would have to argue that the Bible at least had multiple errors in the multiple passages where God bans LGBT behaviors).
These politians have it wrong on this issue. This is a *parenting* issue, not a government issue. If parents want their 6 year olds to learn about homosexuals (heterosexuals, or any kind of sex for that matter) it's up to them. If parents want to wait until some other age, that's up to them too.
I think, while there’s great value to just letting people run their households: it’s a matter of fact that gay people exist and also a matter of fact that gay children exists, and whether or not parents talk to their children about gay people or not is the difference of letting those gay kids know that they’re not weird or wrong for it. While I was raised by heterosexual parents, it was never any secret or unknown thing that gay people existed, and when I started questioning my sexuality I had an easy reference. There are far too many horror stories of gay kids growing up in households where gay people are secrets and shames, where they couldn’t be themselves. That’s meaningful damage to deal a child and I know far too many people who’ve lost connection with their kids because that’s how their household was run. Shame and self-loathing are devastating, especially to children.
only Jesus is king of king we are every body oney with God. ACTS Chapter 19-2 Jesus said to them, Did you erceive the Holy spirit when you believed? And they daid to him, We have not so much as heard whether there is a Holy spirit Holy spirit God and Jesud same person. ACTS Chapter 19-4
Is this the first political debate you've ever watched lol The art of politics is the art of not answering directly and instead pivoting to something else.
@Jamieishere1i dont teach my children to be haters but i do teach them the trueth and how they should take the treuth and examine it and decide for them selves what they deem as right from wrong, just because i believe in a GOD that doesnt make me intolerant to others, on the contrary , my belief in GOD gives me the wisdom to discern what is right and what may be wrong.It also doesnt make me a homophobe eithor, according to our lord we are not to judge others.
you teach your children right from wrong and dont lie to them and make silly excuses for those things that are wrong, no mr obama we dont feed our children bullshit! and perverse those things that are good and moral, we dont send our kids out to play in the street so that they can experience dangers and learn from it. To have a strong moral foundation is not a bad thing and to say its intolerance to do so is simply a falsehood.
17And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name. Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is 666."
@prime440 Np, it's taken practise lol and I still don't always succeed and thank you too. Anyway, regarding God's injustice, Christopher Hitchens does a good job of running through NT unjust teachings, though it's true that the UNCHANGING (according to the Bible) God is far worse in the OT. Numbers chapter 31 for instance (verses 17+18 in particular). God's Kill Count: /watch?v=IABptlAhyJw Hitchens on the immorality of Jesus' teachings: /watch?v=UGEh-fQS9Sk
Just not the case is it? This is the issue with people like this. They're so solid that they just gargle and spew out random information they've seen on their flat-earth Facebook page
Jesus loves you so much he suffered on the cross to forgive All sins thank Jesus for everything he has done for u he is the truth cause why do people say Jesus Christ when mad look up Christian Bible verses and tell people Christian Bible verses and this message and say sorry for your sins and Jesus is always with you even in hard moments you are strght. God did not mastike. Your gender If people don’t listen to u Sher Christian Bible verses or this message ask Jesus that everyone will know him
It's difficult to read your message because of the broken English and horrid punctuation, if that isn't a sin I don't know what is. First, this is a conversation about gay marriage not trans rights but I know it's hard for Religious people to not jump to lecturing others about the bible in the comments. Secondly, the new testament, like most of the Bible, isn't clear at all and contradicts itself every few pages and even then most Christians argue that the bible should be interpreted in the scope of modern society rather than literally. Just like the Bible you also contradicted yourself. So if Jesus loves all of us so much that he died on the cross he can't forgive a little bum fun? Also if we're all made in the image of god does that mean God likes men or is bi? Must be...
@@Izapertron123 he does like men not sexually do It is a sin gay in general because a men will be a leader in to the women because men have a sensitive spot towards women nobody gay it’s a lie from the devil if god whant people to be gay men and men and women and women will be able to have babies but that is only though men and women the Bible is clear just ask Jesus for help to understand the Bible
During the times when racism , was loud in clear n ugly...when President Obama came in. America , white America couldn't stand it. In here we go 2020 damn
To choose Sodomy and unnatural sex will ALWAYS be a sin, no matter how much media, flags, parades, or indoctrination of children. God loves all people but not the sin of homosexuality.
You do realize people who are gay don't always have sex, right? Two dudes might just want to hold hands or give each other a kiss. Whats so "evil" about that?
It's fucking disgusting children are being taught that a Prince married another Prince.
Royalty should be abolished and not taught to children as a positive
@GETH i was being sarcastic.
you had me in the first half ngl lol
true , the marriage must be banned and biological males to caress other biological males and have sex ....so yes ban the marriage because is disgusting and nazi
I see what you did there.
16years ago still disgusting?
why is this being recommended to me 13 years later
same
Because Obama was taking about not promoting or fanning hatred and division among the American people and that is all they did for the last 4 years!!!!!! Hypocrites!!!!!
tygerof354 hmmm?
@@tygerof354 divisions have been caused by racists like you and the republican party
@@millevenon5853 lol wow! If you knew me you would think differently. People that assume and say things like you just did are what is the problem 😏
seriously, why cant people just answer yes or no?
Because they have to explain why, you fucking idiot.
@@cia3058 wow there's no reason to be rude about it. whats wrong with you?
@@cia3058 Did you really just reply to an eight year old comment lol. Also take a chill pill you overreacted to the comment.
@@kell1reilly2 Respect that you responded to someone on an eight year old comment lol
@@captainasher287 lol yea right XD
Very interesting what people used to think about this topic
We still think that way 😅
@@Dreammaster695 Not most people, thankfully.
2007 wasn't that long ago
They still think that way, they will flip flop for your vote.
Millions of Americans still do
Interesting to see how all of these answers hold up in 2020.
Well it’s 2024 and it’s still perverse to impose sexual preferences onto YOUNG children. They should not even have sexual ideas in their innocent young minds.
It’s sick.
And I am a Christian and God says the act is an abomination to Him.
I will not apologize or oppose God’s Word.
@@phylliswestbury5081
Didn’t god create gay people?
@@phylliswestbury5081so if that story was about a prince marrying a princess, you still be against someone reading to second graders?
The title said gay question so I thought it would just be a lame question lol
That’s some blatant homophobia
@@moonscape_3767 I’m literally gay 😂
@@joshdepaola4002 Why call yourself lame if that’s how you identify? This is a homophobic way of referring to yourself if you’re gay. It implies that gay is an insult. If that’s your choice, it seems confusing but that’s your own choice.
@@moonscape_3767 did I say that I think gay people are lame... people say “that’s gay” when somethings lame and there’s nothing I can do to change that I just thought the wording of the title of the video was funny “Democrats answer gay question”
@@joshdepaola4002 it is funny lol, that's what I thought too. The title called the question gay.
I'm actually quite sad that john Edward's ended up in legal troubles. He seemed like a good guy that really knew what he was talking about.
How so/come?
@@thegulagarchipelago5921 actually listen to him talk in some of the debates he was in.
@@satan3950 I'd say your opinion is worth Absolutely Noting if you have that social media name!!!
Enough said.
@@thegulagarchipelago5921 what makes you think your opinion is worth any more than mine.
@@satan3950 The mere fact that you chose that name 😉 Some BS blooding gurgling demon that you think you are... You're actually just a whisper and a whimper.
The real question is, why is someone who is gay or lesbian different than you are?
They are not different. They are humans like every heterosexual person. Stop dividing people and saying that „he is different, they are different“, bc of their skin color, race, sexuality etc. That sounds wrong. It causes division and separation between people, bc we are slapping the word „different“ on anything that isn‘t normal to us. I‘m glad the rules changed now and gay marriage is allowed.
Snowflake I'm glad they could get married but that MIGHT change cause they R GONNA revisit that issue sooner or later...I JUST HOPE it STAY the SAME as it is NOW...I AIN'T gonna even hold you...😑
It's like "gay" is used by them as a primary identity- like a different species or something. They put it at the front in a strange way instead of just simply loving who they love.
Actually degeneracy is vile
Marriage is a traditional religious institution defined as being between a man and a woman, which was understood by everyone -- including Obama and Biden, see other CNN videos -- less than a decade ago.
Asking "Why is someone who is gay different? They are humans like every heterosexual person." is like asking "Why is someone who hasn't studied medicine different? They are humans like every doctor." to justify letting people practice medicine without a license. That's just not what the medical license *is,* just like marriage just *is not* between two men or two women, nor is it "just a piece of paper", nor is it "just showing you love each other". That's what flowers are for.
Exactly, there are no bigger perpetrators of fear, division and hate than THEM
@Jamieishere1Thanks for participating in our discussion in a peacefull mannor, wish more people could converse like you .
It's the water I tell ya. I turned gay when I stopped drinking the tap water
Gay water 😳
Yeah, didn’t it turn the frogs gay 😳
Wow. Go Edwards! Lol
Agreed ;)
Wow where did he go 🤣
@@karelglasner2673He cheated on his wife, had a kid with that mistress, denied being the father of the kid, later admitted to being father of the kid when the evidence was overwhelming, and then filed for divorce against his wife Elizabeth (she died while they were waiting for the 1-year waiting period for divorce that North Carolina mandates). Back then, scandals like that would finish you on either party. He might have survived those mistakes today, but times are different today than they were back then. He also was never an impressive candidate for President or for VP in 2004.
Just 15 years ago. Today the debate is “at what age should children be permitted to surgically ‘change their gender’”
The "slippery slope fallacy" is clearly not fallacy at all. These folks are nuts.
Right?? That’s their goal though, move the goal post further and further in the name of sexual liberation. It will only get worse.
@@kylerittenhousesar-1558 Pretending a fallacy doesn't count for you and you alone isn't intellectually honest
@@Kimberedkey What? I'm pointing out that they claim the slippery slope is a fallacy when it clearly isn't. Take any major issue.
Once upon a time they said about abortion that it should be "safe, legal, and RARE" and now they offer up to birth and say "shout your abortion!".
Years ago they said gay people just want to be able to marry and we now see them not only want to shove it down children's throats, but you have people on the left arguing for throuples to get married.
Years ago they said they only wanted to remove Confederate statues and now we see them taking down statues of everyone from Teddy Roosevelt to renaming schools named after Lincoln and Washington. Hell, they even renamed the mascots of George Washington University from the Colonials to the Revolutionaries.
It's nothing more than an Americanized version of Maoism.
@@kylerittenhousesar-1558 So does the possibility that it can go too far justify taking rights away from Americans?
Oh forget I said that... well, the more you know. I learned something today!
How are you doing today? can we meet?Its nice to see you here
Shame none of them could say "GAY MARRIAGE IS OK!"
Maybe cause it's not lol
@@fodraco4414 Of course it is lol. It's not up to you to decide that.
Maybe it's because back then nobody thought that it was.
That would have been political suicide in 2007, unfortunately.
@fodraco4414 So you think government should tell people who to marry? Maybe you should move to North Korea
Hum, are these the same people creating hate and devisiveness today?
Was that question actually gay??
Nah it was based
Simply put... its wrong to not educate your children on same sex if theyre getting exposed to hetero marriage... we would wanna steer our children away from ignorance. This clip is only 12 years old and did not age well. These are grown people getting asked basic questions... its like asking should kids get exposed to people of color. Ofc they should.
so if someone doesn't like something they are afraid of it?
It is kind of an odd terminology, isn’t it? I think it’s mostly because queer people have often been the ‘mysterious’ outsiders, like the ocean, rather than centrally annoying or hated.
That’s why, going back even to the early days, there are plenty of stories and films about cishet people learning about queer people for the first time and just being like, “Nifty!”
Edwards gave a good answer
I agree
2nd grade yeah NO and it's up to their parents and NOT the state who currently if I could I'd yank any of my tax dollars going to that FAILURE of an institution the public school system preparing our students for failure daily 🤣
@@karelglasner2673cry about it
This is how the madness started
@Jamieishere1 Over the past five decades, rulings of the United States Supreme Court have served to infringe upon the rights of Americans to enjoy freedom of speech relating to religious matters. Such infringements include the outlawing of prayer in schools and of the display of the Ten Commandments in public places. These rulings have not reflected a neutrality toward religious denominations but a hostility toward religious thought. They have served to undermine the foundation of our moral code
How are you doing today? can we meet?Its nice to see you here
Im still wondering how I ended up here
Who’s here in 2020
🖖
@nikkytoh Hmm, but what about the bible condoning homosexuality? Is there a new branch of Christianity for homosexuals?
litetally 4 years before this hillary stood on stage and said "gay marriage? fuck em not in my america!" and everyone cheered
Really? 😂
@@vm99125 She was asked about New York's legislation of gay marriage and if the rest of the nation should follow a suit, and she answered no, in the state of New York.
You mean neo-conservative?
Where’s Spitzer on Weiner?
@prime440 The comedian in question is more of a philosopher and their points stand on their own merit, irrespective of their maker's occupation.
You would have to justify that your foundation was a moral code before making that claim.
2 John 1:10
"10 If anyone comes to you and does not bring this teaching, do not take them into your house or welcome them."
Luke 19:27 is another interesting teaching (a parable about spiritual wealth as far as I remember).
@prime440 When you impose your concept of right and wrong on to other people by restricting them from sharing the same rights as you have, despite their potential realization of those rights having no impact upon you, that's intolerance.
It sounds like you do wish to impose your beliefs on to your kids.
It's a shame none of the panel mentioned the word "censorship" because that is what was being debated... whether or not a specific aspect of reality should be censored from children.
3:32 that face LOL
As she went onto being divisive and hateful 🤣
Well, at least you know what's the aim of the republicans. But saying the poor are like that because they want to, it's plain idiotic.
Its amazing how similar the rhetoric that was used against the gay community is to todays rhetoric against the trans community. And hopeful that eventually it will die down much like it did for them
@iluvthebass3 Sure, though 1 Peter 2:18 is of course NT and much of the OT is incompatible with an omnibenevolent God. Furthermore, the bible says that God is unchanging (Malachi 3:6, Hebrews 13:8, Psalm 102:25-27, James 1:17 etc).
In Matthew 5:18 Jesus says that:
"until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law".
Earth is still here...
So your claim seems to be contradicted by scripture.
I like how the president Obama said:
"Try to bring us together and stop try to fan the flames of devision and help us come together"
Aiiwolf Yeah, too bad he did the exact opposite.
@@dirkdetzler9044 🤦♂️ no he didn’t. That’s just conservatives take on him
@@bms77 no he's right. There hasn't been this much division in the country post WW2 than when Obama was in office.
@@wtDrake
Trump was more divisive than Obama. You're a hack if you argue with that.
@@anticorncob6 of course it was but it started getting bad under Obama's terms. It'll never be like the old days again
@prime440 Anyway, hopefully my suggestion that you may lie to your kids wasn't too offensive and sorry I can't get in to really debating the mini-topics you raised with you. To do so would require much more discussion and an actual analysis of the reasons given for those judgements by the judges and proponents of those viewpoints (which would include a thorough knowledge of the specifics of those rules/judgements, which I don't currently have).
Damn this comment was 9 years ago
@prime440 These rulings actually sound like they protect religious freedom because they prevent one religion from pushing it's beliefs and doctrines in to other people's daily lives. The bible was used to justify things such as denying women the vote, slavery and anti-miscegenation... you shouldn't want it to be the foundation of any moral code.
As George Carlin points out, honouring your parents should be based upon performance.
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This is cringe. This entire process! It simply doesnt belong in the current age.
Prince married a prince??? Whhhaaatttt?
More lasers!
16yr ago?
@Jamieishere1 suggesting a foundation of moral code is a healthier belief system then an immoral code, and quoting a comedian in terms of a serious matter does not hold much weight The lessons that jesus christ talks about have great meaning and are of sound advice, the teachings of atheists that since no god exists there isnt any thing to be morally accountable for.as long as it doesnt hurt anyone.you always pick out things to support your point of view using the bible ,
How is there no moral accountability for people who don't believe in God? That's absolute nonsense.
Those who don't believe in God don't commit sins that they know will hurt others. That's moral accountability.
If anything, if the moral reason you don't commit sin is because of fear of some God's wrath and NOT the affect it has on others, YOU are the one with no moral accountability. You are only not committing said sins for fear of what might happen to you. You are selfish
@snsrktl Being gay is not normal. A person can be abnormally kind compassionate and considerate. Why is normality relevant?
Nobody is arguing that LGBT people are righteous, just as nobody says that about heteros... it is simply refuted that LGBT people are unrighteous, not advanced that they are righteous.
How America was built isn't necessarily relevant to how it should be now though it wasn't built by the bible anyway. It is a secular nation, with religion specifically kept separate.
0:12-0:17 Still an issue 16 years later.
I’m really glad how far the Democratic Party has come. Unfortunately the Republican Party is still in the dark ages.
You still believe that?
@@williamthomas1 ??????
@@PremierCCGuyMMXVI Yea Right, LOL, you know good and well
@prime440 My opinions are however generally demonstrably correct and/or self-evident. All opinions are not equal. Some are correct (or a closer approximation of reality), while others are not (or less so).
That a book says something (proverbs 21:30) does not make it true or even have any baring on whether or not it is true. Many other religions likely have exactly the same kind of thing in their magic books tbh.
I can disprove that God is just btw (which would disprove him).
Back when democrats werent WOKE
@nikkytoh but why would you want to be????
what a terrible president
Where our country started to go down the toilet culturally.
So people who are different from you should have less rights then?
The children always being used for this, always
These people are creepy
@prime440 Any positive point made by Jesus or any aspect of Christianity or any other religion can be made independently of that religion and independently of the it's accompanying supernatural superstitions. I.E. it can be made in an entirely secular way.
Atheist's understanding and interpretation of morality varies. It isn't monolithic. That the bible may hold some good advise is unsurprising, given how big it is. This does not give the bible sole and everlasting claim to it.
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@@blu3_enjoyAmen! Praise Jesus!
Most or all of the people on that stage had no principle. they were just going along with whatever was popular at the time.
Wasn't Clinton very anti-gay?
@prime440 Public places are for the public, not random members to display things relevant to them (the ten commandments), especially not at the tax payers expense. If you want to put on a display obviously you need to do it on land you've paid for, not shared land. The things you raise would require going in to specifics to debate properly.
Why is prayer relevant to schools? I assume it is prayer as part of schooling, NOT private prayer that is outlawed.
Keep democrates as far as possble away from kids
If we feed them crap 💩
Hahaha Everything Nobamo said he did the total opposite. Plus the only president EVER ! For getting a Nobel peace prize for the bombing Syria
@iluvthebass3 You Wrote:
".I will do whatever the bible say so"
The bible sanctions slavery e.g. Leviticus 25:44 and 1 Peter 2:18. As the other commenter says, it also commands stoning to death of disobedient children (Leviticus 20:9), which is reiterated in exodus. I recommend you read all of Numbers chapter 31 to really appreciate God's omnibenevolent nature.
In Leviticus 11:11 (and surrounding verses), eating shellfish is branded an abomination.
Leviticus also condemns haircuts+shaving.
I am 65 and was around neighbors of same sex couples. I WAS NEVER AFRAID OF THEM. I didn’t need that kind of information at school to know that. This is ridiculous arguments about teaching YOUNG children about sexual preferences. It’s not ethical or moral to impose such thoughts upon young innocent children. It’s actually perverse
I miss Tim Russert. He was excellent. RIP Tim
Don't tell me that (not that I care actually) you're gay and voting for a republican? Ha, and I thought 'gay christian' was the ultimate oxymoron already. Go figure.
Elementary schoolers don’t need to hear about it in school. By middle school they’ll hear all about it online and from friends anyway. The whole argument is pointless
Obama said so much and yet so little. Also why is it divisive to object when somebody BRINGS that content to my child? It’s divisive for the teacher to tell that to kids without parents’ consent.
Don’t push gay on kids
If he doesn’t get to decide on behalf of his family then wtf lol.. it’s called family values
seriously, it's like, "I don't think I can force my views on my own kids, I think a leftist pervert should force their views on them instead."
John Edwards is daddy
2007 seemed like such a simpler time.
Reading a story about two princes was controversy in Massachusetts of all places?? It’s now controversial in states like Florida to prohibit teaching about homosexuality to kindergartners 😭
That's right because our education system is at the bottom so until Basic education the reason we pay taxes for public education raises its standards, there will be no conversation about random things like that.
@@karelglasner2673 I agree! Let’s focus on fundamental educational issues!
Source?
@@Kimberedkey which statement would you like a source for?
teaching about homosexuality to kindergarteners@@ryanbianchi3118
Selenda lagura to know arabic name
What a gay question.
Man people dress so different just 2008
That was 14 years ago, people dress differently in 1980 versus 1990 too
I don't think the clothing has changed at all from 2008 to 2023.
I like how they all refer to what they tell their children and not what would they do in office. But hear Obama saying " I always tell my kids not to be afraid of people that ARE DIFFERENT, becaus I was considered different before". Therefore he agrees to consider gay people on the same category that black people were put before and he is OK about it.
That’s not what he meant at all but ok
For the love of everything real, tangible and good you people seriously need to stop comparing being black with being gay. Why not compare having polio with being gay or being born a redhead with being gay? Inappropriate? Yes! So is comparing my blackness to someone’s gayness. Ty.
@@jacquelynn2051
You can't see any similarities?
If you think being gay is a choice, then you aren't straight.
Pretty sure he was saying that discriminating against gay people is just as wrong and irrational as how black people were treated pre-civil rights.
Murica used to be basd
honestly, john's answer is just stupid, like, how about we also teach children about the after-life, wars, cheating (which edwards really loves btw), and depression? surely this won't be too old for their age and will destroy their innocence!🤦♂
@Jamieishere1You are entitled to your opinion as i am, however i will stick to my belief in jesus christ and continue to believe that GOD has to be a just GOD to be a real GOD.Proverbs 21:30
Jesus never said shit about homosexuality
@@jak_the_buddhaJesus spoke for traditional male-female marriage (which gay/lesbian marriage clearly is not). Check out Matthew 19:5.
@@jrowlet where in that passage does it say "A man shall not marry another man"?
From what I understand that's about switching loyalty from your parents to your wife.
@@jak_the_buddha Matthew 19:5: "For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, and the two will become one flesh." Jesus orders a man in this passage to leave his parents and marry one wive in a heterosexual monogamous traditional marriage (not for a man to marry a man, not for a woman to marry a woman, and not for a man to marry multiple men or for a woman to marry multiple men in polygamy). If you want to reject the Bible as an atheist/agnostic and justify homosexuality, you would be wrong in rejecting God and His True Presence and His Word in the Bible, but at least you would not be using the Bible to justify it. God condemns LGBT behaviors in several passages in both the Old and New Testaments. To claim that the Bible allowed the behaviors when it has several passages that prohibit the behaviors is an absurd oxymoron (like claiming that liquid water is dry). Again, homosexuality only makes sense in secular humanistic relativism (where humans make their own morals in the absence of God and His Word in the Bible). To claim that homosexuality is right, you would have to argue that God is either wrong or not real, and you would have to claim that the Bible is not the error-free Word of God (because you would have to argue that the Bible at least had multiple errors in the multiple passages where God bans LGBT behaviors).
I miss this world
The one from before I had access to basic human rights or...?
Me too
These politians have it wrong on this issue. This is a *parenting* issue, not a government issue. If parents want their 6 year olds to learn about homosexuals (heterosexuals, or any kind of sex for that matter) it's up to them. If parents want to wait until some other age, that's up to them too.
Yes
The 2008 conservative couldn’t get any worse
I think, while there’s great value to just letting people run their households:
it’s a matter of fact that gay people exist and also a matter of fact that gay children exists, and whether or not parents talk to their children about gay people or not is the difference of letting those gay kids know that they’re not weird or wrong for it.
While I was raised by heterosexual parents, it was never any secret or unknown thing that gay people existed, and when I started questioning my sexuality I had an easy reference. There are far too many horror stories of gay kids growing up in households where gay people are secrets and shames, where they couldn’t be themselves. That’s meaningful damage to deal a child and I know far too many people who’ve lost connection with their kids because that’s how their household was run. Shame and self-loathing are devastating, especially to children.
Would you say the same thing if it was an INTERRACIAL couple they were learning about?
@oliverpiper7210 and the current liberal couldn't be more stupid 🤣
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Mommy brother mommy brother before calawa
only Jesus is king of king we are every body oney with God.
ACTS Chapter 19-2
Jesus said to them, Did you erceive the Holy spirit when you believed? And they daid to him, We have not so much as heard whether there is a Holy spirit
Holy spirit God and Jesud same person. ACTS Chapter 19-4
they didn't even answer the question. just say yes or no.
Is this the first political debate you've ever watched lol The art of politics is the art of not answering directly and instead pivoting to something else.
I'm agree same sex merragerd this and the world I'm cosidner
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@Jamieishere1i dont teach my children to be haters but i do teach them the trueth and how they should take the treuth and examine it and decide for them selves what they deem as right from wrong, just because i believe in a GOD that doesnt make me intolerant to others, on the contrary , my belief in GOD gives me the wisdom to discern what is right and what may be wrong.It also doesnt make me a homophobe eithor, according to our lord we are not to judge others.
you teach your children right from wrong and dont lie to them and make silly excuses for those things that are wrong, no mr obama we dont feed our children bullshit! and perverse those things that are good and moral, we dont send our kids out to play in the street so that they can experience dangers and learn from it. To have a strong moral foundation is not a bad thing and to say its intolerance to do so is simply a falsehood.
17And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name. Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is 666."
They destroyed marriage
@prime440 Np, it's taken practise lol and I still don't always succeed and thank you too. Anyway, regarding God's injustice, Christopher Hitchens does a good job of running through NT unjust teachings, though it's true that the UNCHANGING (according to the Bible) God is far worse in the OT.
Numbers chapter 31 for instance (verses 17+18 in particular).
God's Kill Count:
/watch?v=IABptlAhyJw
Hitchens on the immorality of Jesus' teachings:
/watch?v=UGEh-fQS9Sk
Now its in second grade your kid gets to decide to get sex changed without parents knowing or permission imagine that question asked to 06 Obama
Source on that?
Just not the case is it?
This is the issue with people like this. They're so solid that they just gargle and spew out random information they've seen on their flat-earth Facebook page
I’m a very discriminating person and proud of it. I hate liars too.
OBAMA '08!
choklitchoklit curious about how you feel about Obama and trump today since all of this time has passed
OGlettuceWEED Yooooo! We’re old ass video buddies!
Your wish came true
Times when Democratic Party was actually a sane party, not a woke mob.
Jesus loves you so much he suffered on the cross to forgive All sins thank Jesus for everything he has done for u he is the truth cause why do people say Jesus Christ when mad look up Christian Bible verses and tell people Christian Bible verses and this message and say sorry for your sins and Jesus is always with you even in hard moments you are strght. God did not mastike. Your gender If people don’t listen to u Sher Christian Bible verses or this message ask Jesus that everyone will know him
It's difficult to read your message because of the broken English and horrid punctuation, if that isn't a sin I don't know what is.
First, this is a conversation about gay marriage not trans rights but I know it's hard for Religious people to not jump to lecturing others about the bible in the comments. Secondly, the new testament, like most of the Bible, isn't clear at all and contradicts itself every few pages and even then most Christians argue that the bible should be interpreted in the scope of modern society rather than literally. Just like the Bible you also contradicted yourself. So if Jesus loves all of us so much that he died on the cross he can't forgive a little bum fun?
Also if we're all made in the image of god does that mean God likes men or is bi? Must be...
@@Izapertron123 he does like men not sexually do It is a sin gay in general because a men will be a leader in to the women because men have a sensitive spot towards women nobody gay it’s a lie from the devil if god whant people to be gay men and men and women and women will be able to have babies but that is only though men and women the Bible is clear just ask Jesus for help to understand the Bible
@@Izapertron123 Jesus is always with you even in hard times
@@elijahevangarcia It’s a shame he wasn’t with you when you wrote that car crash of a message
@@Izapertron123 he is with everyone all the time
No. Keep it out of school. You let parents teach morals, not schools!
You're a prime example of what happens when someone has shitty parents
Jesus said that some people are born gay, and nothing is wrong with that in Matthew 19:12.
Explain yourself here! Eunuchs are not automatically gay.
Oh my Lord, they're the devil. I SEE IT THE DEVIL IS HERE AMONG US REPENT REPENT TO JESUS
During the times when racism , was loud in clear n ugly...when President Obama came in. America , white America couldn't stand it. In here we go 2020 damn
For Obama to win, a few white ppl had to have voted for him.
Obama only won because of white people. 🦍
@@maryannwaters339Many white people (in the millions) had to have voted for him.
To choose Sodomy and unnatural sex will ALWAYS be a sin, no matter how much media, flags, parades, or indoctrination of children. God loves all people but not the sin of homosexuality.
Your ideology will be as quickly forgotten as your hair line :)
You do realize people who are gay don't always have sex, right? Two dudes might just want to hold hands or give each other a kiss. Whats so "evil" about that?
I missed the 2000s
John Edward's is a phoney