what he said is half true, whats hes saying about cybernetics is true, but so are the things that he discounted, and excluded. in my opinion, this was a good introduction to a much ignored portion of cybernetics. feed back loops are interesting, there was plenty of research done involving feedback loops and mind control. i think there should be more videos made on this.
Yuck it’s sorta an insult to his degree of knowledge, for you to quote Stanford Beer, and not give him credit. After all, it’s where you got your information.
Straight up. Wrote plenty of books on cybernetics (I.e 'management cybernetics', 'designing freedom', 'diagnosing the system for organization', ect..). Ever implemented concepts of homeostasis theory on a socio-economical level in Chile 🇨🇱 ... until the C.I.A didn't like it and ultimately put an end it to (with the help of the Chicago boys). R.i.p Salvador Allende.
Feedback has been a feature of engineering for at least a century. This presentation is a load of pseudo intellectualized, name dropping BS riding on the work on actual innovators.
this man knew Beer and Pask personally. It's the same school of thought. You should go read things other than Beer. He is brilliant but much of his reasoning comes from Pask and Ashby.
Have you ever heard of Stuart Lichtman who studied at MIT and wrote the book How to Get Lots of Money for Anything Fast with is a system of getting what you want by CLEARING the resistance in the unconscious mind.
You have zero innerstanding as I hear you Pete and repeating bits and pieces of different information. It’s quite chaotic as well as your unruly crowd.
"Cybernetics is the art of getting what you want" - he said the quite part out loud 😆
Brilliant inspired talk about engineering Cybernetics and Conversation theory transforming futures of interactive cognitive environment.
It could be argued that Stafford created the internet in "public" in Chile... Paul...
Is it censored? Why the sound keep cutting off?
amazing content
This dude was really pissed off with the AC guy
what he said is half true, whats hes saying about cybernetics is true, but so are the things that he discounted, and excluded. in my opinion, this was a good introduction to a much ignored portion of cybernetics. feed back loops are interesting, there was plenty of research done involving feedback loops and mind control. i think there should be more videos made on this.
Exactly.
How to study cybernetics...???
What a difference between Pangaro and Gregory Bateson.
PROBLEM / REACTION / SOLUTION.....................................;
To me, cybernetics is just control systems
Same
Bucky wishes he was stafford.
Yuck it’s sorta an insult to his degree of knowledge, for you to quote Stanford Beer, and not give him credit. After all, it’s where you got your information.
Straight up. Wrote plenty of books on cybernetics (I.e 'management cybernetics', 'designing freedom', 'diagnosing the system for organization', ect..). Ever implemented concepts of homeostasis theory on a socio-economical level in Chile 🇨🇱 ... until the C.I.A didn't like it and ultimately put an end it to (with the help of the Chicago boys).
R.i.p Salvador Allende.
Who's goal? "You" in this story are the rudder to be steered. Don't be fooled.
O like mentors cloth🧐
Feedback has been a feature of engineering for at least a century. This presentation is a load of pseudo intellectualized, name dropping BS riding on the work on actual innovators.
r u trying to reduce the size of the video by cutting off the unimportant sounds?
that's chaotic !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Causal Reasoning ... ? You missed 51% of the science... go back and read BEER... or have a drink!
I'm 75% through this lecture... ahem... and no mention of Stafford Beer. This is not true cybernetics. He is rockin and rollin in his grave.
On the Graph of influential cyberneticians~ Stafford Beer is Boldly Placed...near 75% of the way through...
He also quoted Stanford Beer several times without giving him credit!!! This guy is all about the new digital gmo human. We are analog beings.
I thought the Father of Cybernetics was Norbert Weiner
this man knew Beer and Pask personally. It's the same school of thought. You should go read things other than Beer. He is brilliant but much of his reasoning comes from Pask and Ashby.
Also from von Foerster. Read the history of the movement before making your comment.
He ripped off Cybernetics 101 from Stafford Beer..
Have you ever heard of Stuart Lichtman who studied at MIT and wrote the book How to Get Lots of Money for Anything Fast with is a system of getting what you want by CLEARING the resistance in the unconscious mind.
He did these folks are already brain dead
he worked with Pask and Beer so he doesnt need to quote them, people should assume knowledge of where this came from, Paul was Pask's advisee
He sounds so much like Elon Musk...
LONG LIVE BEER
You have zero innerstanding as I hear you Pete and repeating bits and pieces of different information. It’s quite chaotic as well as your unruly crowd.
Cybernetics=ArtOfGettingWhatYouWant=NotSinning
For the love of god please don't mute him every second he doesn't say anything it's so annoying
Wiener would be disappointed.
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