Is An International Scout II Better Than A Jeep? This IH Hides Some Major Surprises!
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- Опубліковано 25 тра 2020
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On this episode we take a look at a 1972 IH Scout 2 that holds some huge surprises under that hood and throughout the rig!
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Badass Scout.
I drive from Philly to Colorado in my 63 harvester back in the 90’s…bought a 73 scout II when I got out here…life amd kids happened amd i don’t have either trucks…miss them everyday
I'm 73, I wish I had known how good those scouts were back in the day, you got yourself something special there. I wish someone was still producing simple, basic, rugged vehicles like this today.
This is Viktor, the owner. Thanks TFL for featuring my rig!
Well done Viktor, you have a respectable truck.
Dude awesome scout. My dad has two of them. He loved the set up of your scout.
Great truck Viktor 👍🏻
I have a 1979 Scout II, I did a reverse shackle and added a few degrees of castor at the same time. It now tracks very well at highway speeds. I still want to do an EFI conversion and add rear disk brakes and maybe hydroboost.
Cool! Do you have an Instagram page for your scout?
My dad had one when I was a kid, best hunting vehicle ever. That low Rev high torque motor and 4 low was capable of idling over obstacles that would halt other 4x4s. It crawled so slow in 4 low my dad once hopped out to take a leak and left it in gear, he only had to walk a few feet to get back in!
Scout leads the way!
I never saw Marlin of Marlin Crawler do that!!
My dad told me story about hunting out of one
Pure truth. 45 degree incline in 1 low, and you can get out and walk next to them.
My dad has one to that we've worked on. They are tanks on wheels. It idled so low the alternator stopped working lol. Trees can't stop it. They are amazing
Now that is a seriously cool rig it's nice to see a few of those still living on
I have a 73 I've owned for about 30 years. Hard to get stuck!
The "Wandering" is because of the fact that when it is raised it throws the caster out of alignment. I had to use 1/4" wedges on my front end to bring it back, and no more wandering.
Nice Scout ! Those quirky vents were very common in 50’s thru 70’s when you had no air and it was raining that was your only fresh air without getting soaked ! Great review
We used to use them as beer coolers in the winter!
I kinda miss those vents...all my older vehicles had them. I especially liked the ones in my '79 Jeep pickup...the knobs for both vents were right in the center of the dash, so you could open or close both sides very easily.
Ya, I got a chuckle out of him thinking those vents are "quirky," showing his apparently young age. Every truck in the 1970s had vents like that!
My uncle worked at an IH dealership back in the 70's and he was always driving a Scout demo. I have fond memories of all the rides I got in different Scouts.
My uncle was an International Harvester dealer in Monte Vista Colorado. He sold the Scout alongside agricultural equipment and he and our family would drive nothing else. When the Scout was discontinued my uncle was devastated, he wasn't about to switch to Jeep, Ford or to a GM product, so crazily he bought a Mitsubishi pickup instead (a gutless wonder!) just to be different. I wish that he had put one of his trucks in mothballs, for a future generation to enjoy, but alas that was not to be. Great walk around!
This guy must be pretty young if he has never seen a kick panel vent. Ask Mr. Truck about them.
Really. They were not so uncommon years ago. Even a nice car like 55-57 T-Birds had 'em.
I think I stopped seeing them in the mid 80's on our cars. I thought all older cars had them
@@jamieforrester7108 it depended if a car came with ac or not... i had a 1979 Catalina that didnt have them but i think my 84 S10 did but they were all gone by the mid eighties when we lost the fly windows
@@willb3018 its old school A/C poverty package!
My thoughts exactly !
The reason you're steering wanders is because they probably did not do a cut and turn on your axles when they did the spring over. Your caster is off and it may be worse than it was from the factory which was 0°. If you're going to lower it, you might consider having somebody do a cut and turn and add to five to six degrees of caster. Mine is raised higher than yours but I put Chevy Dana 44 underneath my front end. It came stock with about 5° and my truck tracks straight as an arrow at 75 mph.
Owner here. Good advice. I thought of this as well. I'll be diving into it at some point, but not anytime soon. Thanks for the advice.
Nice Scout! Thanks for sharing. I have a 69’ scout 800 with similar mods. The wandering problem is the result of having 0deg. caster from the factory. Having the knuckles cut and turned on your front axle to add caster will make a hug difference. Mine now has 6deg. and tracks great.
Nice Scout! I have had several, and love them. I have a JKU now, but I would much rather have a Scout II! But, I could not find one for the price I had budgeted. But, this year there were several that have come up within my price range. Great Scout. Good Job.
Just wanted to thank u. Had a scout when i was a teen and miss it bad. Been in a jeep ever since but its just not the same. Lol. Mine had the 258 6cylinder which still got me thru anything. Lol. Beautiful rig man and im totally jealous.
Thank you sir
Brings back memories. Wish I would have kept mine. I had a 72 with the 345 and limited slip 4:27 ratio differentials. Others have stated how these things would just crawl in low lock. If I accelerated slowly it would be in third gear by 10 mph. I remember in 2wd high I didn't like to go above 55 mph, because it was revving like a school bus. Great trucks. That 345 was made for heavy work.
Mine had a split bench seat in the front, and in the back had heavy rubber with metal strips. It was also on the back of the rear seat so when you folded it flat it was all the same. Nice tough liner for hauling things.
Beautiful scout! Thank you for sharing. I had a 74 with a spring over that handled horribly at highway speeds. I reversed the front leaf springs so that they the shackles pivoted in the back instead of the front. The improvements was amazing, I was even able to tow on the highway.
Growing up, my father had an '80 Scout II with a V8 and a '67 Scout. This was in the late 80's and they were quite unique even back then because most of them turned into piles of rust after a couple years here in Ohio.
Absolutely gorgeous and timeless! Enjoy!
I love the look of your scout. I had a '72 and a 79 SCOUT ( the '79 was my favorite) that I took off road every chance I could. I am wishing I didn't sell them when I needed a pick up for a new job. I have been on the lookout for another Scout II to replace them. I had a similar problem that you mentioned about it being unstable at highway speed so we went with a little wider tire and rim combo. The combo we had on it wasn't wide enough and it made the Scout feel like it was being pushed really bad when you would get up to speed.
Nice scout beautiful. I am a scout owner too. When I got my about 4 years ago I was thinking about doing an LS swap I’ve been beat the hell out of my scout doing off road. until today that engine 345 still strong like a bulletproof
The original stock seats are tan leather and are surprisingly comfortable and one of the more comfortable car seats I have been in
Always loved the Scout. One of the coolest in its day....and still. Don't see many of them.
Floor vents actually were not "quirky" in that era. In the 1970's, floor vents that let in air from the outside was actually very common. As were "wind wings" in driver and passenger windows. It is just an artifact of the era, which is no longer done.
Awesome rig! I drove a 1976 model in high school in the late 80s. Been missing it for many years.
My friend drove a '76 in high school...it had the 392 ci V8 with a manual four speed. Man I loved that thing! It was still fairly new at the time and it was definitely a sweet ride. Only thing I never liked about Scout IIs was the way the hood opened...seems like it would be a real bitch to work on with the hood in the way like that.
I enjoyed your post. The Scout II is really cool. I once owned a 73? one ton International 4 wheel drive with factory plow. The" Farmers truck". It was a beast. I ran it on propane. Best truck I ever had. Can't find anything comparable today.
Nice Scout II and thanks for the video! I have a brought back from the dead 72 Scout that I love. Its a never ending project but runs around just fine. Might have to do fuel injection at some point as well, that is a nice system.
I love it man my grandpa had one with a 4 speed 345. It was unstoppable in the colorado mountains. My grandpa really put his through some serious off road workouts and it never let him down. It was a 73 4 inch suspension lift and 35 in all terrain tires with an rv cam. This truck literally went anywhere one paths were straight up and narrow, which the scout climbed no problem. I would pay top dollar to have it.., today.
My buddy was a HUGE scout guy. He even had a traveler and a 3/4 ton travelall with the 390(I think) and a stick. I had a '78 traveler with the 345 and an automatic. LOVED IT! His fav was a 74 scout with the 345 and a manual. Great rig!! You are right, those 345 blocks are a beast! We were wrenching in my shop and moved around some blocks. The striped down 345 block was as heavy to lift as the 350 we picked up that was still complete. We were younger and thought we were gorillas. Lol. Love your rig. I was looking at those OX lockers for my 85 4- runner. I love the worm drive limited I have now, but can be a little tricky on slick rock if you have to manipulate it to get it to engage. .
That is such an awesome Scout II. I have always wanted a Scout, but they are very hard to find - unless you like a rust bucket.
I had that same year of Scout.
It was a 1972, Gold Body with a White Hard Top.
It had a Straight 6, 3 speed transmission. It seemed like it pulled 6,000 RPM’s at 55 miles an hour😂
I wish I had it back. It was a Mudding Monster👍😆
Your Vehicle is “top notch”👍😄
That is quite a gem he has there....Chevy trucks had floor vents up till the late 80'S.....
345 cubic Inch. Dad was a mechanic for a trailer home & delivery company during the early 70's, & spoke of the 345 blocks this way. As I rebuild the engine, one thing in common with each rebuild is that the block never needs to be bored over. It is as if their block steel has been somehow crystallized like porcelain. The piston & rings when wearing out seem to become a smidgen square; but never the cylinders.
What great rig! I love those OX lockers, so simple and reliable.
I love that this dude rattlecanned that paint job. Honestly adds a rugged character to rhe vechicle
Owner here. My only regret is exposing it to too much sun. The top is very faded.
WOOHOO!!! I had a 1974 IH Scout 304 V8 T-18A manual transmission. I would throw the top off in May and put it back on at the end of October. Rust bucket. But one of the funniest rigs I've ever had. IH meet in the Fort Wayne area this year. Love Scout II's.
I grew up in the 70s and worked for farmers and I remember these and Broncos which I would love to own! Bro you did good it looks very cool! Man I love that Scout you are one lucky guy!
I absolutely adore the Scout.
LOL. “Quirky little thing”. That was standard fare on all cars of that era! Jeeze, I’m old🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣. I did own a travel all, scout II, and a scout Terra. Great trucks.
I love Scouts. My dad had one when I was a kid. I want to get one really soon.
Very nice, the white with red and the light slate blue with white are my 2 favorite colors ever and they look great on the scouts. I Built one in Highschool and sold it in 92 which was 2 years after I graduated. Had no rust and I did a chevy 350 conversion mated to the 4sp, 4" lift with 33' and at one time 35's. Wish I had it today, that and my 79 bronco I put a 460 in with 4spd a XLT model. If we knew then what we knew now right.
Love the paint on both trucks we can see in this,that 70’s look is cool!
In 1978 during the biggest snow storm live through and I was in 67 also I was looking for my car because the snow was so deep it was level over the vehicles I heard something coming I couldn't believe it for big old guys in an international scout drove by with snow going over the top of the vehicle snow deeper than the hood plowing on its way through with no plow
I saw it
Those guy's you saw were probably me and my buddies heading to Nikko's Gyros for lunch and a beer.
I worked for IHC at the Melrose Pk branch and then got transferred to the Elston Ave branch in Chicago just before the "Big Snow" hit.
Awesome scout. I’m partial to both IH and Jeep. Back in the day try mom drove a yellow 76 scout and my dad drove a red 77 cj-5.
Loved this, great truck and an awesome tour from this guy.
Love the OX Lockers. I'd like to do that with mine. FWIW, sleeping in the back of the Scout is very comfortable with the tailgate down. That's how I do most of my camping.
Erm, floorboard vents were never quirky. My '69 Mustang convertible had them.
I really like this Scout. The lines and color scheme are awesome. Best part it's not a me too Jeep.
Everyone will call it a jeep though. Around 2010 considerably more people were all the sudden aware of what scouts are but Holy cow, people refer to it as that jeep thing or they think its a jeep scout or something like that constantly.
@@danh8302 not me I see them the front grill as a jeep renegade but still prefer the jeep comando first gen
@@danh8302 is awd or 4wd better for woods forest
@@danh8302 - yep. For some people EVERY 4wd SUV is a Jeep.
I had a great time listening to a buddy recount his co-worker's reaction to my Scout when I dropped him off for work one day. As I drove off he remarked that I had a very nice Bronco (at least he knew it wasn't a Jeep). Nope, my friend replied. Blazer? Nope. ...Jimmy? Nope. What is it? That, my friend, is an International Harvester Scout II! Ohhhh. xD. At least he didn't call it a Jeep!
@@mdemers767 haha yep!
I bought a new 76. Red and blue on white. 13,000 miles and it started falling apart. I went from Phoenix to Reno Nevada. Two breakdowns going and the last 60 miles on a hook to Phoenix.. No body wanted to work on it. Too bad. It was a beast off road.
Looks gorgeous man , I saw one here in south Australia 🇦🇺 yesterday at car show , same exactly style “RALLY” stripes metal gun grey same exactly BF/G tyres , very beautiful had 392 engine ??? Never heard of 392 anyway had a hood scoop with very beautiful 392 badges on it painted red inside letters , had absolutely gorgeous 70’s interior with all 70’s vintage gauges blowing my mind out ! Interior was gorgeous had vintage 70’s CB I loved the automatic gear lever never seen it before ! Wow what a ride ! They are beautiful very rare I only saw 2 here with short wheel base I’ve seen more like the harvester but scouts only 2 !
I drove a ex military M25A2 deuce for a couple of years and it had the same type of air vents in the foot area of the cabin :-)
Great rig, I'd love to own one!
Suggestion for this series. Allow the owners to do a drive test and/or show footage of their vehicles being driven.
I'm finally getting my 73 towed tomorrow to start work on it after 3 years!
I have a 1979 Scout II, I did a reverse shackle and added a few degrees of castor at the same time. It now tracks very well at highway speeds. I still want to do an EFI conversion and add rear disk brakes and maybe hydroboost.
That Chevy in the background looks awesome with the stripes on it !!!!
Awesome truck... love it !!! Really Enjoy seeing international trucks restored.. they are good looking truck !!!
love the GM EFI... International made two 345's... this small block and a big block that went into dump trucks and schools buses and from what an old mechanic told me because the big block had a bigger stroke they shared no internal parts. i know from looking at them the big blocks manifold stood like 6 inches taller at least
Nope. There’s only one 345, same engine in both light trucks and the big trucks. The 266/304/345/392 are SV or small V8 engines, at least in IH lingo. But they weigh more than a big block Chevy.
Nice Rig. If you take the spring over lift off and go back to spring under with a mild lift it will handle much better. Stock Scouts have a rediculously low Cg and can handle hill climbs and off camber extremely well. Spring over lifts are for show trucks or mud boggers not an effective off roader which the Scout ll is.
By adding the efi you got rid of one of parts that was always fun to say : Vacuum Operated Deceleration Throttle Modulator. LOL
I bought a new 78 Scout ll Rallye and enjoyed almost every minute of it, they have thier quirks but are unique and very capable. Its too bad IH was mismanaged and the Scout line was discontinued. But then again there arent any of the trucks from that era still made either. Time marches forward and leaves us with our fond memories.
Beautiful rig. I had 2 but all stock. Love the t18/t19 and 300 combo. Hear in Nova Scotia that high lift jack would have to be inside or it would get ruined by mud and salt.
Thanks for sharing! Inspires lots of ideas.
As for not driving straight, I had a '78 Scout II Terra ( Pickup bed with fibreglass pop top). Weird how they mounted the steering gearbox to the frame. It would flex like crazy.
Wow that is sweet dude. badass scout for sure. Appreciate you sharing.
Someone torched mine when i was younger otherwise i would still have it till this day. It's beautiful my friend ❤️ 💕
I’m more of a Jeep guy but I gotta respect him for the work he has put in so far. It’s a badass rig
What a great video.... Well done 👌👍
Great video! Appreciate all the detail
there were 2 different t-19 4 speeds available for a scout. the wide ratio as mentioned in this video with super granny low 1st gear. there was also a close ratio that meant you used 1st gear every time you started out just like in a car. it was great for towing a small boat or trailer.
Sweet ride. I have a 76 i need to get running. Going to be a big project tho. Been on a deer lease and sitting for 20 years lol. But was running when it was last parked. Just needed brake lines redone.
i'm doing work on a 1979 scout ii, 345 v8, trying to keep the interior orignal look and planning on repainting the exterior international red
Very nice ride!!! Thank you for sharing
Once you put the springs back under the axles (as designed) your wandering problem should mostly go away, particularly with the added steering brace. Also add the flat-bar anti-sway bar between the front shackles that was on later Scout IIs; and even the 1980 camber setting bushings (& disc brakes) to the front axle pivots. It will drive 100% better. Awesome rig!
Dude I love international scouts. My dad has two of them. I spent my youth helping work on the first one. It's a 72 with a 345 but it's a 3 spd auto. It has the same axles but i think the gear ratio is smaller. The only real modification that was done was we put cams in it and cats so it idles like a harley. Then the 2nd one I spent the end of my teenage years (like 17 - 19). Its a 1976 with 196 and a three speed manual. Its bored about 20-30 over but it's way lighter since we used fiberglass body panels. I love working on them and driving them is just as fun. I love the lockers you put in it and based off of what I know it looks like a two inch lift but you should have talked about the nut busters (wing windows).
I owned two Scout II’s in the 70’s I bought new. First one was a 73, I bought as a left over in spring of 76! From an International Truck Dealer. The reason why is they had ordered it for a client that passed away a day before delivery, that was a plain Jane, 258 straight-six, 727 auto, single-speed transfer case 4x4. it was a decent SUV for bad weather, great in the snow, but without Low Range sucked in beach sand! So I traded it in two years. For number Two, a special ordered, Special Edition, 78 Scout II TERRA pick up! basically a Scout II with 18” added wheelbase, between front doors an rear wheels giving it a 6.5’bed and 2,000 lbs capacity, with a 345 4brl dual exhaust, rated at 210hp, 320 lbs-ft. Tq. HD 727 automatic, 3:55 Detriot Locker Rear + Front open gearing, plus HD Two Speed Transfer Case! The Special Edition came in Canyon Black with Gold Rock Crawler Wheels, Gold strips along the sides just below the side view mirrors and removable white cab roof, with the SSII Grill just like above. Brown bucket seats and dash with matching plush door panels and black dashboard with wood grained areas and aluminum turned instrument cluster. A very nice truck that ran fantastic! But was mine for only 13 months, due to the family trucking business closing after OPEC II! I saw the truck in around 87, but ever though I had it ZeeBart Rust Proving done the day after I picked it up, it was totally rusted out! Sad how the tin worm had such a big appetite for the Scouts in wet/snowy areas! But also the body hardware, hinges door latches window cranks, heater cables were also all junk! But the engine,chassis and drivetrains were bulletproof!
We used these international harvesters scouts for pulling bailers all day long most of the filters were interchangeable with tractor filters and yes because it was made by a tractor company all the drive train is indestructible we also owned a 1959 international pickemup truck . Great vehicles
Damn that's a good looking rig
I had a 1977 Scout II with the T-19 4-speed tranny. Wonderful. First gear was synchronized so you should shift without gear grinding.
What an amazing and beautiful machine! Congratulations man.
Thanks! It's even better today than it was back when this video was made.
That’s the best looking scott I’ve ever seen , awesome
The venerable Warn 8274 stand up winch! Love them, and Cornbinders! Todd the retired trucker.
Awesome truck. Love these Scouts.
Killer scout big fan I have a 1978 Scout II and the stock springs are much better for stability. I also fitted mine with a sway bar and that helped dramatically with the body roll. Great work on it they are awesome.
That’s a really cool truck. And not a big fan of stripes but this red detail looks just perfect there.
I love the way the exhaust sounds
Wow!!!! What a badass Scout!! Love her!
Sweet I miss mine had a 79 in 79 orange black all my buddies got stuck but with front rear posi I never did
Scout was a champion to the bone. If you wanted a truck that got you anywhere in spite of winter, it was a fine choice. Never cheap.
Used to have a 72 myself. Great trucks!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Put a Rancho steering stabilizer shock on the front end and it will dramatically improve the steering at highway speeds. Thanks for sharing, wish I had never parted with mine. Edit: and the lift is perfect :)
Quirky!? those vents were on nearly every truck and car in the 50's through the 80's.
I kinda miss them.
Those and wing windows.
Great video. Well edited.
Nice Binder dude!
Love these Bindres or some would say Harvesters ! That's old man speak for International, because they built Cmobine Harvesters for over twenty years before producing their first truck.
I had a 1980 RHD Scout that was factory converted to RHD it was manual steering using a Ford truck steering box upside down. It had a 304 and a 727 tourque flight. It had 250 k miles and considering that it was used to deliver mail it's entire life that would be more than a million miles of run time on the never rebuilt engine and once rebuilt transmission. It was a great mail truck it was quite a work out on trash day getting around trash cans. It only had one seat so I built a fold and tumble seat so my daughter could ride home with me after my mail route. We almost got pulled over a few times when it looked like a little kid was driving. I would like to buy another Scout and put a modern E Rod motor on it.
Scout is probably my favorite car ever
I LOVE THIS TRUCK!! Very cool!
Always wanted to build up a scout. I learned to drive in a one ton travel all.
That 345 is MORE than powerful enough especially with that 4-speed. Tight, tight, tight turning radius and climbs like a billy goat. And easier to lift. That spring-over is just a matter of moving the springs to the top of the axle. They came stock under the axle. That's it! Cheap and easy! You can add blocks if you want, but you really don't need it. And with those floor louvers open and the rear window slides open you don't need AC. GREAT airflow! International designed these things SOOO well!
This thing is amazing, wow why dont they make em like this anymore? Really nice suv
they don't make them like that because they would never meet safety requirements and it would get horrible mileage. All of the things that make it awesome also aren't wanted by most buyers as they mostly want comfort and lots of options so a new one of these would have a very limited market. I still want one though.
I absolutely love it! Killer GM TBI! On a corn binder V8 to boot. There's a truck I'd be barking to buy!
The first thing I ever drove was an international scout ii, awesome machine
I really like these old Scouts. They are just a really cool vintage 4x4 SUV from before all suv’s had to be behemoth luxury vehicles. These are very true to purpose.