I have this model, being from the Chicagoland area and going to IRM for over 40 years now, well this model is a must for us in the O gauge. I'm not unhappy with all the inaccuracy with the model, knowing it will never be perfect 1 to 1. Just happy it was finally built and this is one engine I will never let go.
Great review and video! I have yet to actually see #1630, but in that I live in Missouri and am a fan of the FRISCO I could not pass up this beautiful locomotive model. As I write this my model is wrapped under the Christmas tree where it will remain until Christmas morning. Thank you for a wonderful sneak peek! Bill B.
Lionel is really been dropping the ball. This locomotive was also supposed to have wireless connection between the tender and engine. I wonder if these things could fall under false advertising?
They couldn't fit the electronics in the engine, hence the tether. Better for power pickup for going over switches anyway with all pickup rollers tender/engine tied together.
It's diecast, you are never going to get prototype specific details on diecast when you have one mold and can stamp many road names on it to increase sales. The builder plates is a big miss though.
when it has over sized flanges, blind drivers , and over sized couplers , preclude it from being scale, not to mention the 3 rail track, but for High rail its a great looking locomotive
All I'm hearing is nitpicking in this video.. I like an engine with a tether, gives it a great electrical footprint and allows the drawbar to be shortened.
Nitpicking my backside - things better be right when you’re charging $1,200 for an engine…it better especially have the features the manufacturer advertises it has.
@@TheSteamChannel not having builders plates is extremely abnormal for lionel. But I will tell you, when lionel makes am engine, they almost NEVER model accurately to the prototype. They're not like HO scale companies.
@@ChargerusPrime Precisely my point. There are numerous companies making diecast steam engines faithfully to the prototype in HO for more than half the price. If they can do it - there is not much reason the attention to detail cannot be put into these models. Especially when most of the models are now pushing $1,500 to $2,000. The wired harness is here nor there…but it is a pain to pull out. Over time the wires may get damaged. Like my father pointed out, when MTH does a wired harness…they wrap the wiring in a heavy outer rubber casing. Lionel left these wires totally exposed which will not help protect them against pull outs. I don't mind the representation...from five feet away you won't notice a lot of the small things...but the oversight on the builder's plates erks me. The engine looks toyish without that. That's not something one should be saying of a $1,200 engine. I bit on this because 1630 is local - but I don't think I'll be biting on anymore recycled MTH tooling. I've been much more impressed with the engines where the tooling was designed in-house by Lionel.
I always found it strange how HO manufacturers can cram way more detail into their models and larger models seem to be lacking 9 times out of 10 @@TheSteamChannel
I have this model, being from the Chicagoland area and going to IRM for over 40 years now, well this model is a must for us in the O gauge. I'm not unhappy with all the inaccuracy with the model, knowing it will never be perfect 1 to 1. Just happy it was finally built and this is one engine I will never let go.
Great review and video! I have yet to actually see #1630, but in that I live in Missouri and am a fan of the FRISCO I could not pass up this beautiful locomotive model. As I write this my model is wrapped under the Christmas tree where it will remain until Christmas morning. Thank you for a wonderful sneak peek! Bill B.
Nice railway video, Like !
That was a wonderful and complete review of that locomotive. Well done!
I love the model of Frisco 1630.
A great video of a very beautiful steam locomotive, original and model. Thank you for showing me. Wish everyone a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year
Merry Christmas!
Great Job.
Lionel is really been dropping the ball. This locomotive was also supposed to have wireless connection between the tender and engine. I wonder if these things could fall under false advertising?
They couldn't fit the electronics in the engine, hence the tether. Better for power pickup for going over switches anyway with all pickup rollers tender/engine tied together.
Then dont advertise it that way. . . .@@garylevite6099
That boiler is very small lol it couldn’t have wireless connection or whistle steam
They also have a outside throttle linkage when the real one dose not
It's diecast, you are never going to get prototype specific details on diecast when you have one mold and can stamp many road names on it to increase sales. The builder plates is a big miss though.
Cool review 😊
I would like the name of the design director at Lionel. Half the things you pointed out were not in favor of this loco.
when it has over sized flanges, blind drivers , and over sized couplers , preclude it from being scale, not to mention the 3 rail track, but for High rail its a great looking locomotive
It’s for those of us that know how to loosen up a little…
The second you said "mth" that explained all its inaccuracies
Do you think this model could handle O-31 curves since it’s not super long?
1630 is the only Russian decapod in operation in the states
Not just 1630. There's also GWR/SRC #90 who's residing in the cozy rails of Strasburg Railroad up in Lancaster County, PA
@@HarryRollisProductions
SRC #90 is not a Russian Decapod though.
@@MackeyBigBoy4014 No, but she's the only other decapod running in the us, PERIOD!
All I'm hearing is nitpicking in this video.. I like an engine with a tether, gives it a great electrical footprint and allows the drawbar to be shortened.
Nitpicking my backside - things better be right when you’re charging $1,200 for an engine…it better especially have the features the manufacturer advertises it has.
@@TheSteamChannel not having builders plates is extremely abnormal for lionel. But I will tell you, when lionel makes am engine, they almost NEVER model accurately to the prototype. They're not like HO scale companies.
@@ChargerusPrime Precisely my point. There are numerous companies making diecast steam engines faithfully to the prototype in HO for more than half the price. If they can do it - there is not much reason the attention to detail cannot be put into these models. Especially when most of the models are now pushing $1,500 to $2,000.
The wired harness is here nor there…but it is a pain to pull out. Over time the wires may get damaged. Like my father pointed out, when MTH does a wired harness…they wrap the wiring in a heavy outer rubber casing. Lionel left these wires totally exposed which will not help protect them against pull outs.
I don't mind the representation...from five feet away you won't notice a lot of the small things...but the oversight on the builder's plates erks me. The engine looks toyish without that. That's not something one should be saying of a $1,200 engine. I bit on this because 1630 is local - but I don't think I'll be biting on anymore recycled MTH tooling. I've been much more impressed with the engines where the tooling was designed in-house by Lionel.
I always found it strange how HO manufacturers can cram way more detail into their models and larger models seem to be lacking 9 times out of 10 @@TheSteamChannel
That’s because it’s made in China unfortunately !
Where it’s made has nothing to do with anything - a factory is building what the client calls for.