Minnesota Vikings found HIDDEN GEMS after NFL Draft ended
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- Опубліковано 8 тра 2024
- Thor Nystrom joins Mackey & Judd for another Thorsday episode! The boys begin by discussing the latest Justin Jefferson reporting from The Athletic. When should Minnesota Vikings fans start to get nervous about this contract stalemate? Then, Thor explains why he LOVES some of the undrafted free agents the Vikings brought in last week!
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Thor needs to sign that extension with Purple Daily
extend Thor, cut forno
Thorsday is my favorite day of the week! Thor is the best...
Really enjoyed Thor's thoughtful analysis, he is great to listen to.
I agree. Thor is absolutely rising as a star and I think purple daily should absolutely continue with him if y'all can have the proper meeting of the minds. Keep in mind purple daily is gonna be the place to be for QBOTF and Vikings related stuff. Love the show you guys put together.
Keep Thor coming guys this guy is a Minnesota treasure
Thor is always a welcome guest!
You have to have this guy on every week. He’s ridiculously good at what he does.
Nobody wins if he disappears for 6 months.
Best part of the year watching Thor cook!
Awesome love it when thor's on😮
NOT paying non qb 35 mil.... build both line with that cash
I understand what you’re saying, but a player on the defensive line comparable to Jefferson as a WR would demand that same amount of money.
Paying that kind of money to one of the top 3 at their position is not a bad thing if they are a Tackle, D-Line, WR or QB.
Thor is the best 👍🏻👍🏻
Thor Rocks!
I've watched football long enough to see the signs that this jj negotiation is going to be a problem.
What signs?
@@jeffchaska9955 The fact he didn't sign before last season when all reports were that a deal was done and him not signing yet this year. Also the amount of the contracts that have been signed this off season with all the guaranteed money added to the fact that the Wilfs have never given more than 2 years of guaranteed money to anyone but a QB. I'm not saying he won't sign, but I can see the beginnings of a potential problem.
Thor 🐐🐐🐐🐐🐐🐐
Dwight McGlothern PFF #1 cornerback in the SEC will beat out Evans and Booth, will make the roster and challenge Blackmon for playing time. The guy is the real deal.
Not that’s a bold prediction! Booth and evans have been floating dumpster fires and Blackmon isn’t much better. If he is all that and a bag of donuts why wasn’t he drafted? You watched him play why did he slide?
If/when the Vikings shrewdly leak the offer jj turned down, then fans who idolize this guy may have a tough defense of their position. Tag-and-trade before the inevitable fake training camp injury or potential real injury. Can you imagine signing a WR to 37M/year then having him miss half the season again with another non-contact injury? There's huge risk to paying that kind of money to anybody who touches the ball only 5 to 12 times a game. Build a team, not a pedestal.
The mighty Thor.
I’m sure Jets and KOC sat down and chatted quarterback in a meeting. They seem chill like that
Love Thor, he needs to be on year round!
These udfas hitting is just like getting free draft picks. Ivan pace is at least a third round value maybe higher. Being a good place to go and a good vibe helps w these udfas
If he doesn't want a realistic team friendly contract then trade his ass. He's just a wide receiver they aren't that important. Dude almost missed all of last year pretty much. Might as well have. Plus there's games where he just disappears. He's my favorite prayer and a class act so I hate to say it but the teams foundation is more important than his income. I don't care if he's the best non QB that position isn't worth 25% of the salary cap....
Finally some gets it. WR's just don't move the needle where it matters. 1-8 with JJ last year, 5-2 without him, 30-30 overall in 4 years with 1 playoff appearance. You wouldn't pay a QB $35m/y after that kind of production, but we want to pay a WR? You don't need the best WR to win in this league, you just need 2-3 good ones on affordable deals. The best WR isn't going to help us overcome how weak we are in the trenches ... unless you trade him.
Thor any day of the week 👍
Love Thor from the BLA!
You guys keep saying it, and it's incorrect. It's not "highest non-paid quarterback", it's "highest paid non-quarterback."
non-paid means "works for free". That's definitely not what's happening here.
Since a lot of you guys have NEVER stepped on a football field in full pads, let me explain something to you. Jefferson is not only a GREAT player, but his talent and WORK ETHIC is inspirational and infectious in a lockeroom setting. Having your best player with that type of attitude is what makes championship teams. Watch the sideline audio from the Buffalo game and notice how his catches pumped up the sideline with the belief that they were gonna win no matter the obstacles. His value to the Vikings at this point in their ascent towards a super bowl, is immeasurable.
The fact that Jefferson started texting with JJ essentially right after he was drafted tells us everything. This is Jefferson’s team now he is THE leader on the offense and is a pillar of this team Kwesi will get the extension done
I don't understand the "trade JJ" crowd at all. The whole point of the draft/development process is to get as many awesome players as possible. You have the best WR in the league, you don't trade him away
Those people are the FANTASY FOOTBALL geeks.
Not true vikes fan if u want to trade our best player in my opinion don't we want the best players why would you trade him 😅
Justin Jefferson: If they are close on the numbers, but just have to iron out the details, I believe JJ signs before he lifts a finger. In other words, he signs before he is exposed to injury. Even a small injury, at this time, could derail the biggest contract for a WR ever.
Fcking Judd "Yes it's weird" 😂😂😂😂
We gotta trust the process, fellas. If Kwesi can sign a deal with JJ, he will. If he instead gets a player and draft haul for him, is that a bad thing ? Our cupboard's a little bare for the draft next year, we could make it something special for the next two years, moving him. Though JJ is special, was his WAR last year really that good ? Maybe he performs better this year with Darnold, and eventually JM, throwing to him. Take an edible, and let the process be what it will.
Smoke a dab boys and chill out
Do people not realize that the WR market goes up regardless? We can’t just expect all the players to play on rookie contracts and win a Super Bowl. If you have a future HOF player on your team, you pay him what he’s worth. We are paying our QB rookie money right now.. so now is the perfect time to pay a HOF WR big money for 4 years.
Happy Thorsday!
Effin A I want some Vikings football boys!!!
I sure cant wait to see this JJ deal get done!
Phil “fully realized version” Mackey
JJ is just waiting for CeeDee and Chase to get paid. Then JJ can get more!
Phil needs to understand the scaling related to DEFCON. Judd said "5" which is the LEAST severe condition. Thor stated "4" which is slightly higher. Phil stated he was actually a bit "lower at 3.5" which is actually a HIGHER defense condition. Peace.
I agree with Thor; cheering finger foods will lead to words being exchanged. Don't want your patty touching mine
17:27 cheers-ing wings is a thing. 😆
Im so excited about Dwight mcglothern ,jackson ,byron murphy, aj green III, griffin, blackman,akayleb evans this corner back group has so much potential it would be so great if it all works out .oh hell Im vary pumped about our defense period young , fast, versatile. I just wish we could keep them all.
Franchise Tag Justin Jefferson! Why NOT!? And why wouldn't Justin Jefferson want to be franchised?! Hell Franchise him twice!!! He's already willing to bet on himself so why not just take a double franchise tag?!
Look at it this way he played the last 4 seasons with the second highest payed player in NFL history and that guy was tagged twice! You could argue that Kirk wasn't even good enough to be the 2nd highest payed player ever and that his timing of contract made him rich beyond his capability and that timing was due to being franchise tagged twice.
JJ could get tagged in 25' & 26" and still sign a monster deal in 27' and he'll only be 27 years old he could still likely get a second huge contract!
I love what the Rams do. Never knew that. Evaluations should be based on if the kid play , and do they love football. Can't teach heart. So many of the greatest players in nfl history have been underdogs , overlooked guys with something to prove.
Ownership wants this deal so it’s a matter of “when” not “if” beat writers love to speculate Jefferson moving elsewhere
Sorry, no non QB is worth 35 million a year.
8 years ago, people would have said no quarterback was worth 100 million guaranteed and an average quarterback with Daniel Jones type talent wasn't worth 40 million a year. Things change, times change.
@@yolo25000a receiver cannot get you to a SB but a QB can. Many SB's have been won with average receivers. Not many with average QB's. Huge difference.
@@timhanna4700 well, we have the receivers, the only question is do we have the quarterback.
Jefferson would be the reason why Vikings win Super Bowl not by paying him but trading him. You are crazy to pay one guy this kind of money. I would rather have any top wide receivers in this last draft on a rookie contract then pay Jefferson. Get five picks and let him go! You have lineman to pay and other free agents.
Lmaooo theres .0001% chance any of those top wrs are anywhere close to jefferson
Cry. Vikes have a qb and wr2 on rookie contract. You can pay JJ. You dont trade hof caliber talent
@@laserchiefwankoo204 You don't need the best WR to win in this league. Can you remember the last time any WR's was the reason a team went on a run? It's just not a position that moves the needle where it matters. Unlike most other positions, you don't need the best WR, you just need 2 or 3 good WR's. You win in the trenches, which is where the Vikings are weakest. Trade JJ and use the draft capital and cap savings to beef up the IOL and IDL. That would help McCarthy more than making him feel like he has to force the ball to the $35m WR 10 times a game.
if trade him what chance that you hits on them draft pick?
Atlanta is looking for some fans man
It's a no brainer - every team goes into every draft trying to find a Mahomes, a Jettas, an Aaron Donald, a Micah Parsons - an elite game changing star. When you find them, you build your team around them. End of story.
CD Lamb hasn't signed. Chase hasn't signed. Dak hasn't signed. It's normal.
I don't think we should pay him some outrageous amount just to keep him...one bad hit and we don't have him in the game anyway. People need to get real
JJ's not going anywhere else. Everyone just take a deep breath. Captain Check Down is gone, so they have the $ to pay JJ. You don't trade the best WR in the league after you just drafted your first legit franchise QB in team history. 😂
Nobody knows if JJ is actually a franchise QB. That remains to be seen, but I agree. Jettas isn’t going anywhere.
Zactly. You don’t trade a game changing piece of your team. Absolutely not!
We have no idea about the qb, for all we know Sam Darnold ends up being our qb. I don't see trading jj for the next year or 2 though.
Vikings did make an offer, Jefferson said no thanks. Vikings lowballed him? They all of sudden realize the folly of the offer?..and give him what he wants? Idk..kinda seems like the writing is on the wall. Never know, Mensah does seem to do whatever strikes him in the moment.
@@903i9 no. The Vikings made an offer. Then Jefferson and his agent turned it down because they knew the cap was going to go up a ton and the other receivers would be getting new deals that he will beat when he gets his new deal so he will make way more money. He’s not going anywhere. Simple
My hottest take: Darrisaw gets an extension before Jefferson
Keep him in the mix to tell you guys about next years draft prospects.
After the draft Sean Payton said that Bo Nix was their guy the whole time, they decided after his pro day, obviously didn't trade back because of the Raiders need for a franchise QB. For the record, I think Nix is going to be a competent NFL QB.
I do get the trade value for JJ, but at some point you've got to remember it's not just X's and O's and $$$ signs. It's a source of pride having #18 on your team. It's exciting with him on the team. The Chiefs could afford to deal Hill bc they already had a bigger star in Mahomes. We don't. I liken it to a house you love in a fantasic neighborhood. Sure, you could sell it for top dollar, but is it worth it to live in a lesser home and lesser neighborhood just to afford other things?
Another way to look at it is to look at the past 20 Vikings 1st rounders. Pick any 3 at random. Odds are 1 was a bust, 1 was just okay, and 1 was great. But JJ is exceptional. How many of those 3 picks you selected at random were exceptional, and how many made you brag about them? None, exactly.
I'd rather watch JJ make circus catches and do the griddy than three boring 1st rounders we'd get for him, at most.
Jeffersons agent is the same agent for Joe Borrow (highest paid qb) and Nick Bosa (highest paid non qb) both extensions got done right before the start of the season. Itll get done in August. SKOL!
Thor content > Weekly "scoops"
Thor just took a limitless pill
Just pay Jets, man. We got enough cap, enough flexibility, and he's young enough... it's gonna be fine. Just give him what he wants and go watch him be the best in the business brother.
2 firsts for Jet is a no brainer
I think the ucla edge murphy will not only make the team but will contribute this year . Can see McGlovern also making the team if they end up moving on from booth or evans
great take on evil sean payton
I can’t wait to see the haul Kwesi can get for Jefferson. I’m going to set my expectation at a couple day 2 picks so I’m not pi$$ed off. Kwesi tries to do his best impression of Mike Flynn no matter which direction up or down the draft he goes. Trading a player is probably no different.
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Jefferson gets the offense into scoring position, which is wonderful.
But it hasn't translated into enough points because of O'Connell and Cousins and the lack of run blocking and running.
They don't need Jefferson.
Cousins was often very inaccurate when throwing to receivers in the end zone.
Should of gotten rid of Kirk sooner his contract philosophy rubbed off on JJ....
Haha right? That's why I didn't want a rookie QB sitting behind him a year or 2. The only thing he would've learned from Kirk is how to win a contract negotiation.
can phil,,,,,,,,,,,, Hire thor
Do we get the Twins back on TV first, or a Jefferson signing first?
The young man that intrigues me is Ty James. I see no one talking about this guy.
And Ty James was number 2 I think. Both undrafted. Going to get interesting.
There's no audio
"How much do you believe JJM can be a star maker vs the guy that needs stars around him." The season can't start fast enough.
Let's retire "running downhill".
It used to be "rolling downhill" which made sense.
Running downhill is very difficult and much slower than running on level ground (which is where football is played).
I could see JJ getting his new contract. If in 4 years, the other JJ is everything we expected or even better, we pay him. We could trade one of our JJ's for a load of picks and pay the other JJ. In 4 or 5 years, the QB JJ will probably be asking for $50 mil. That would cost too much to pay both JJs. WR JJ could be worth a load of picks.
JJ ain't going nowhere, he just got here! Let him play his first season before trading him.
Jetas will be a Viking until a franchise QB proves himself worthy.
I can hear just fine
JJ wants so bad to hit CJ Ham on a 7 route!
Also, Richter is a bigger guy than Kamara. IMO, he has more talent just was only given a shot his senior year due to roster depletion at the position. I see it that Gant will have to beat out Thompson if he’s just a ST guy.
guessing no matter what they offer he is out....get this year then Franchise him....could even Franchise twice and still be ahead over 3 years.....then get a 3rd round comp pick....
Now is the time to trade him if we want to go that route. Stack mad picks, out 1st next year is likely top 10 without him, then boom we load up like mad and roll out JJ.
No, actually, it's not fun to talk about or even speculate. As Vikings fans, we don't want to hear that. We want this done, and him focused on football, not his contract. Only people in the media think it's fun
Huh so an average 2 UDFA guys on offense and defence will be playing in every game
Sorry guys aint watching Thorsday. Its weird him and the love of his McHandoff....😂😂😂 I'll watch it as long as the 5th qb off the board isnt discussed...lol
If the Minnesota brass trades/doesn’t sign the best WR in the league, they are bigger idiots than I already think they are.
Its simple no Jefferson no Super Bowl .
You gotta pay to play...
murphy maybe a 1trick pony now but Ive seen a lot of 1 trick ponies through the the years some where along the line of their career they start rounding out and turn out to be a good player.
The Vikings are trying to win a Super Bowl and they need to know if Jefferson is all in or not. Is JJ an important part of this team going into a Super Bowl window for sure yes is he absolutely necessary for a Vikings Super Bowl hell no!!! Don’t let him be a distraction from the mission.
These guys should be more concerned about retaining Justin, Vikings may have a talent finding receivers, but they also have a bad habit letting the go.
Mick Tingelhoff was undrafted.
No sound.😢
Works on mine.
Difference between a Ooo and an Ahhhh is 2 inches. Advanced analytics..
Trade the deva. Get 5 big boys.
You’re not the GM for a good reason. Stick to whatever you do. Leave this to the great football minds on the Vikings staff.
They lost D.J. Wonnum along with Danielle Hunter.
4 years 152 million 100 million guaranteed before June 11th
No such thing as a hidden gem until they play in real games and not fantasy land
There's no Mr gadget arms or anything else like that that's going to come out where the Vikings actually win a super bowl anytime this century!
Should have traded Jefferson for picks if you aren't going to pay him. GITERDUN
If Kwesi needs to trade Jefferson, I'm sure he can get two 3rd rounders as long as he kicks in one of our 5th rounders.
Trade Jefferson. The guys sat out last season...we won.
He played, we lost.
This reminds me of Stafford Megatron scenerio, bleeding the teams $$.
There is a huge difference between the highest non paid qb and the highest paid non qb
No, Jefferson IS NOT the only reason a team would go to the S.B. There haven't been many big time receivers in the last few. He hasn't played in any of them !
Kwesi dropping the ball again?
Really what’s the difference between 20 or30 million per year. You can’t spend that much. If he is that greedy get rid of him. Team first.
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