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  • @TheTrinityDelusion
    @TheTrinityDelusion  6 років тому +10

    Trinitarians ignore/disregard the contextual facts to tell their lies about this verse. The name "God with us" refers to the fact that Jesus Christ's God was with Israel in plan and purpose by giving them this human child to save them from their sins. The same is true in Luke's gospel (1:68ff.) which says God has visited us by raising up a horn of salvation in the house of David.

    • @christos8418
      @christos8418 6 років тому +1

      The Trinity Delusion great video again brother, I was just wondering what a good response would be to a trinitarian who uses, “let us make man in our image” in genesis to back up the trinity?

    • @TheTrinityDelusion
      @TheTrinityDelusion  6 років тому +2

      Ask him where he got his information that US and OUR refer to three persons and not two or four. Ask him to also provide where he got his information that US and OUR refers to the 3 hypostases of his doctrine.

    • @junedewar3551
      @junedewar3551 4 роки тому

      Would you accept what I know to be true all of Christianity have it wrong. The Son of God was named Yehoshua meaning Yahveh is Salvation that was the name given to my Anointed Messiah who came to save the Israelites from their sins as Matthew 1: 24, 25 refer to in the first coming of the Son of God who died and was risen. However Yahveh God promised he would again bring His Firstborn Son into the inhabited earth as written Hebrews 1:6. In the first coming the Son of God was born from Mary who was a descendant of Judah.
      In the second coming the Son of God was named Emmanuel by His Father when he was caught away to heaven before the serpent could devour the woman's child (Rev. 12:5) and 'they' being God the Father and Mary who nurtured her child in the First coming and second coming called the Son of God Emmanuel in that second birth time period. The second birth was by a woman descendant of Aaron and also Phinehas whose offspring were in the priesthood covenant with Yahveh God to time-indefinite.
      That is until the Second Coming when Emmanuel would take up the Sceptre and Commanders staff that did depart from between Judah's feet as prophesied in Genesis @ after being born by both women as prophesied by the patriarch of both women namely Jacob Genesis @ where we read 'blessings of breasts' and 'blessing of womb'. The former being because on the two birth occasions Mary cared for the newborn of God on both occasions and the latter being singular was referring to the womb also being in reference to Isaiah's writings of the barren woman Isaiah 54:1.
      The bible translation I have is more clear on that fact than other translations. Leonardo sought to let us know these truths by his paintings but art critics misdirect the message. If you google The Madonna of the yarn winder it shows Leonardo's depiction of Mary and baby 'Jesus' holding the crucifix.
      You will see also a painting of Mary with Jesus in the first coming holding his crucifix as having completed his role as our anointed saviour. Mary has her hand outstretched grasping towards another child standing beside the second madonna pointing the way for her son she gave birth to who was to be caught away to heaven. It is not Mary and Jesus with her cousin Elizabeth and John the baptist holding the cross as they want to tell us. You will see another painting of two madonnas one sitting on top of the other with Emmanuel holding the slaughtered lamb showing Yehoshua (Jesus) being the sacrificial Lamb having fulfilled that role and beginning life with Mary and His Father in heaven as Emmanuel King and High Priest who is coming to judge this world.

  • @FoundationalBibleTruths
    @FoundationalBibleTruths 6 років тому +15

    I just want to take the time to say *THANK YOU* for all the THOUSANDS of hours you have put in making these videos available *FOR FREE* so that others may benefit from Your insight (given to you from YHWH). May the God and Father of our Lord Jesus the Messiah continue to bless you Brother Kel.

    • @TheTrinityDelusion
      @TheTrinityDelusion  6 років тому +3

      You are welcome. Be a light to the world. God bless you.

  • @cmcnadejda5960
    @cmcnadejda5960 5 років тому +4

    Thank you, very much for this exellent and comprehensible explanation!
    The trinitarians do not ignore scripture, they just don't study it neither do they research it.

    • @nedalikloub9790
      @nedalikloub9790 4 роки тому

      Reply to the wrong quote: Emmanuel Matthew 1:23 "The virgin will conceive and give birth to a son, and they will call him Immanuel" (which means "God with us") Looking at the text in Isaiah's book , we find that the Evangelists have erred in the quote
      Isaiah 7:14 Therefore the Lord himself will give you a sign: The virgin will conceive and give birth to a son, and will call him Immanuel See the original text in Hebrew Definition almah is : a young woman or a virgin biblehub.com/hebrew/5959.htm
      Refer to the book of 2 Kings 16:1/2 In the seventeenth year of Pekah son of Remaliah, Ahaz son of Jotham king of Judah began to reign Ahaz was twenty years old when he became king, and he reigned in Jerusalem sixteen years. Unlike David his father, he did not do what was right in the eyes of the LORD his God 2 Kings 18:1/2 In the third year of Hoshea son of Elah king of Israel, Hezekiah son of Ahaz king of Judah began to reign He was Isaiah ... twenty-five years old when he became king, and he reigned in Jerusalem twenty-nine years. His mother's name was Abijah daughter of Zechariah
      Through the texts of the book of Kings 2, it becomes clear to us that Ahaz, the father of Hezekiah, was married when he was 10 years old ; Of course his wife was also young
      Immanuel see text 2 Kings 18:7 And the LORD was with him; and he prospered wherever he went forth: and he rebelled against the king of Assyria, and served him not Immanuel : See the text of Kings : God with see. See the text of Matthew the Lord was with him
      Looking at the texts of the book of Kings 2 and Isaiah we get to know the truth out who Emmanuel is ... Immanuel is (Hezekiah)

  • @burongaroso2538
    @burongaroso2538 6 років тому +3

    All Glory to YHVH. Awesome Video!

  • @red57dryad
    @red57dryad 5 років тому +3

    40 years, 40 years this year, while I fortunately avoided the trinity delusion, I nevertheless fell into the "once saved, always saved" delusion. I think this is even more retching than the trinity delusion. I always "felt" something wasn't "kosher". I cannot thank you enough for straightening out that subject. While in my younger days I was filled with the willingness and boldness to proclaim my Lord, however the constant war with unbelievers and, worse even, "saved" trinity belivers, I got quite... what a shame. The always saved philosophy poisoning my mind. I now can enter the small gate and approach the narrow way. I cannot thank God enough for you! God Bless You.

  • @marekpala6442
    @marekpala6442 2 роки тому

    Hallelujah Amen

  • @ounkwon6442
    @ounkwon6442 3 роки тому

    Thank you so much. You opened my eyes on this OT quote in G-Mt. - "God the Almighty is not not against us, but is for us -the people of Israel". It does not say God tabernacles (physically) among us (the readers of the Gospel), nor it says 'he [Jesus] is God with us'

  • @TheChadWork2001
    @TheChadWork2001 4 роки тому +2

    True Brother Kel. God with us means he's with the obedient Israelites in plan and purpose, not that he came down, inhabited a body and called it Jesus or Mahershalalhashbaz.
    This account also tells us something even more: the word we translate as "virgin" applies to a female at that time (Ahaz's wife - the prophetess) who has already had sex and a child.)
    God called her that through Isaiah.
    How can a young wife of Isaiah be called a "virgin" when she already had sex with Isaiah and they already had a child?
    And what does that tell us about how we translate that word and what we think it means today compared with what it really meant then? And how does that apply to Joseph, Mary, and Jesus?
    In Isaiah 8, when Isaiah knows his wife, their Immanuel child was named Mahershalalhashbaz.
    Recall in chapter 7, they already had a son whom Isaiah took with him called Shearjashub, at the time God called the prophetess a "virgin."

  • @todaysmanna8673
    @todaysmanna8673 6 років тому +2

    Very clearly explained.
    Those with ears to hear and eyes to see understand.
    Yahusha was born flesh from the seed of David. The only begotten sinless spirit of Yahusha created by Elohim from the beginning. Yahusha's spirit overshadowed the flesh experiencing temptations (evil ) but chose good. Yahusha pleased so much His Father that He received the Father's powerful Spirit ( words & works) to work Minister to Yasharal for 70 weeks. Elohim's power overshadowed Yahusha when required to proclaim His glory and to come for the lost sheep of Yahsharal.
    At the crucifixion the Father's power left Yahusha for Him to experience death in the flesh. Yahusha perfectly fulfilled ( achieved ) His Father's will by being set apart in the flesh in keeping the law and willingness to be put to death for His love for Elohim. Yahusha also demonstrated foregoing His will to let the Father work through Him. As promised He was raised from the dead and given Elohim's everlasting power and glorify to rule over His Father's kingdom. He is seated at the righthand of the Father and interceeds on behalf of believers. It is Elohim who draws believers to Yahusha to be saved and to serve. Yahusha has the authority and power to put to do death our currupt spirit, wash away our sins send the set apart spirit for those who truly believe. Salvation is a daily practice to deliver us from evil and to bear fruit for the Father. This is why Yahusha is the truth, light and the way for He shows us how to do the Father's will in the flesh.
    The trinity is blasphemous for it takes away Elohim's standing and the love He had by sacrificing His beloved Son. It also takes Yahusha's purpose in comming into flesh to conquer sin and death and His love for the Father to die for Him. There is only one Elohim who is omnipresent and powerful to manifest in whatever way as He so pleases. The Father's set apart Spirit worked through Angels, Prophets, Kings leading to His wonderful gift of Yahusha our King and Saviour and the set apart Spirit which is sent to believers.
    Praise Yahuah in Yahusha and the Ruach Hakodesh ( set apart Spirit )

    • @todaysmanna8673
      @todaysmanna8673 6 років тому

      Johnny Casteel
      John I think you are trying to justify your inability to come into truth. Knowledge is increasing with the truth once hidden now coming into light for those with ears to hear and eyes to see. The Father is seeing who will come into truth or continue in believing in the traditions of men. The names is one of those revealed truths that the Father wants me and I would say all believers to glorify out of respect. Yahusha's salvation is for true believers to walk in spirit and truth to do the Father's will. I understand that this is very difficult as your spirit possibly refusing to seek truth as to risk comming to the realization that many of your naturally cherished beliefs and doctrines are diluted with pagan Sunworship( originated from Catholicism ). The names that we are accustomed to are translations not transliterations. The renderings do not even come close to the true transliterations of the paleo hebrew. Further more, the names are significant as it forms part of Scripture and required when studying precept upon precept. The first three letters in Yahuah ( Father's name) YAH means I am. Yahusha too has YAH I am with the rest of his name usha meaning deliverer. Therefore I am deliverer. Didn't Yahusha say He came in His Father's name? He did indeed literally in name and in his role. Perhaps the Father up until now made allowances. However we really have no excuses for failing to test all things including revelation about His name. Though I struggle John too, I am thankful everyday for Yahusha in sending the Ruach Hakodesh ( set apart Spirit to walk in spirit and truth. Does the correct use of names determine one's salvation? To be honest I don't know. What I do know is that we are to do the Father's will which are His perfect laws, statues and of course serving Yahusha and honouring the Spirit.
      What did Yahusha say about His Father's will? The first commandment is thou shall love thy Elohim with all your heart, soul and mind. If the His law is written on our hearts than we will naturally do all we can to be in truth to ensure we are respecting and glorifying the Father, Yahusha and the Ruach. If we love the Father doesn't it make sense that we use His, Yahuah's and the Ruach Hakodesh ( set apart Spirit ) names as opposed to say God which is a pagan heathen name? We are talking about the most High not the guy who owns the local shop. Interesting the great lengths we go to please man (ones work boss) including using their correct names and prideful titles. The idea "He knows my heart" is not the same as walking in spirit and truth.
      shalom.

    • @nedalikloub9790
      @nedalikloub9790 4 роки тому

      Reply to the wrong quote: Emmanuel Matthew 1:23 "The virgin will conceive and give birth to a son, and they will call him Immanuel" (which means "God with us") Looking at the text in Isaiah's book , we find that the Evangelists have erred in the quote
      Isaiah 7:14 Therefore the Lord himself will give you a sign: The virgin will conceive and give birth to a son, and will call him Immanuel See the original text in Hebrew Definition almah is : a young woman or a virgin biblehub.com/hebrew/5959.htm
      Refer to the book of 2 Kings 16:1/2 In the seventeenth year of Pekah son of Remaliah, Ahaz son of Jotham king of Judah began to reign Ahaz was twenty years old when he became king, and he reigned in Jerusalem sixteen years. Unlike David his father, he did not do what was right in the eyes of the LORD his God 2 Kings 18:1/2 In the third year of Hoshea son of Elah king of Israel, Hezekiah son of Ahaz king of Judah began to reign He was Isaiah ... twenty-five years old when he became king, and he reigned in Jerusalem twenty-nine years. His mother's name was Abijah daughter of Zechariah
      Through the texts of the book of Kings 2, it becomes clear to us that Ahaz, the father of Hezekiah, was married when he was 10 years old ; Of course his wife was also young
      Immanuel see text 2 Kings 18:7 And the LORD was with him; and he prospered wherever he went forth: and he rebelled against the king of Assyria, and served him not Immanuel : See the text of Kings : God with see. See the text of Matthew the Lord was with him
      Looking at the texts of the book of Kings 2 and Isaiah we get to know the truth out who Emmanuel is ... Immanuel is (Hezekiah)

  • @Jz-en9pi
    @Jz-en9pi 6 років тому +1

    Thank you!

  • @DJTripleY
    @DJTripleY 6 років тому +2

    Thanks for an eyeopener! :)

    • @nabeelyounis7949
      @nabeelyounis7949 6 років тому

      Artto Aunap it's not eye opener but mere deception.

  • @greenman5255
    @greenman5255 6 років тому +3

    I just tell trinis that it can't be referring to Jesus as being the "God with us", because according to their doctrine: Jesus was 100% man/human, while he was "with us" on Earth. How can he be the "God with us", if he wasn't God at all, when he was with us? Great video as always, pointing out all of the reasons why this "Immanuel Proof", is really a "Poof".

    • @nedalikloub9790
      @nedalikloub9790 4 роки тому

      the wrong quote: Emmanuel Matthew 1:23 "The virgin will conceive and give birth to a son, and they will call him Immanuel" (which means "God with us") Looking at the text in Isaiah's book , we find that the Evangelists have erred in the quote
      Isaiah 7:14 Therefore the Lord himself will give you a sign: The virgin will conceive and give birth to a son, and will call him Immanuel See the original text in Hebrew Definition almah is : a young woman or a virgin biblehub.com/hebrew/5959.htm
      Refer to the book of 2 Kings 16:1/2 In the seventeenth year of Pekah son of Remaliah, Ahaz son of Jotham king of Judah began to reign Ahaz was twenty years old when he became king, and he reigned in Jerusalem sixteen years. Unlike David his father, he did not do what was right in the eyes of the LORD his God 2 Kings 18:1/2 In the third year of Hoshea son of Elah king of Israel, Hezekiah son of Ahaz king of Judah began to reign He was Isaiah ... twenty-five years old when he became king, and he reigned in Jerusalem twenty-nine years. His mother's name was Abijah daughter of Zechariah
      Through the texts of the book of Kings 2, it becomes clear to us that Ahaz, the father of Hezekiah, was married when he was 10 years old ; Of course his wife was also young
      Immanuel see text 2 Kings 18:7 And the LORD was with him; and he prospered wherever he went forth: and he rebelled against the king of Assyria, and served him not Immanuel : See the text of Kings : God with see. See the text of Matthew the Lord was with him
      Looking at the texts of the book of Kings 2 and Isaiah we get to know the truth out who Emmanuel is ... Immanuel is (Hezekiah)

  • @danielverhulst1378
    @danielverhulst1378 2 роки тому

    The conception of Jesus fulfils Is 7:14, where we are told that a virgin would conceive and bear a Son. He who is conceived in Mary is not a new Person coming into existence but the eternal Son of God now using her womb as His throne. Both the virginal conception by means of the Holy Spirit and the name Immanuel, God is with us declare Christ's divinity.

  • @janflorovic5880
    @janflorovic5880 5 років тому +1

    Matthew 1:22-23
    All of this actually came about to fulfill what was spoken by JEHOVAH through his prophet, saying: “Look! The virgin will become pregnant and will give birth to a son, and they will name him Im·manʹu·el,” which means, when translated, “With Us Is God.”
    Oh boy restoring the divine name into the New Testament would systematically murder this trinitarian heresy.

  • @raulramos5246
    @raulramos5246 5 років тому

    On the New American Standard Bible reads: "Then the LORD said to Moses, "See, I make you as God to Pharaoh, and your brother Aaron shall be your prophet". (ρroρhet=spokesman).
    God, Yahweh, was "there" in the words of Moses, as God was in Israel in Yehshua's words, teachings and portents.

  • @adysaxman77
    @adysaxman77 6 років тому +2

    Matthew 4:10 Then saith Jesus unto him, Get thee hence, Satan: for it is written, Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and him only shalt thou serve.
    Before Jesus could even speak, as a babe, God in the flesh, men worshipped Him.
    Matthew 2:11 And when they were come into the house, they saw the young child with Mary his mother, and fell down, and worshipped him: and when they had opened their treasures, they presented unto him gifts; gold, and frankincense and myrrh.
    As an adult man, Jesus received worship from men:
    Matthew 8:2 And, behold, there came a leper and worshipped him, saying, Lord, if thou wilt, thou canst make me clean.
    Matthew 9:18 While he spake these things unto them, behold, there came a certain ruler, and worshipped him, saying, My daughter is even now dead: but come and lay thy hand upon her, and she shall live.
    Jesus's disciples also followed suit:
    Matthew 14:33 Then they that were in the ship came and worshipped him, saying, Of a truth thou art the Son of God.
    They did the same, to the resurrected Jesus, though some doubted.
    Matthew 28:17 And when they saw him, they worshipped him: but some doubted.
    When the apostle John was given the Revelation, he tried to worship an angel, and what did the angel say to John?
    Revelation 19:10 And I fell at his feet to worship him. And he said unto me, See thou do it not: I am thy fellowservant, and of thy brethren that have the testimony of Jesus: worship God: for the testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy.
    So, was the angel that forbade the apostle John to worship him, and instructed the apostle to 'worship God', included in the worshipping of Jesus in accordance with the following Scripture, alongside his fellow angels?
    Hebrews 1:6 And again, when he bringeth in the firstbegotten into the world, he saith, And let all the angels of God worship him.
    If Jesus was anything other than 'Immanuel / God with us'
    Matthew 1:22-23
    Now all this took place to fulfill what was spoken by the Lord through the prophet: "BEHOLD, THE VIRGIN SHALL BE WITH CHILD AND SHALL BEAR A SON, AND THEY SHALL CALL HIS NAME IMMANUEL," which translated means, "GOD WITH US."
    Then Jesus could NOT have been the sinless Lamb of God, as Jesus allowing men and women to worship Himself, would have been none other than a blasphemous act.
    Jesus is God, make no mistake.

    • @TheTrinityDelusion
      @TheTrinityDelusion  6 років тому +1

      The Magi were Law-keeping Trinitarians? Don't be so absurd. They came to bow down before a King, the King of the Jews, just as Israel had bowed down before David for example. And you need to go and learn that Hebrews 1:5-6 is referring to the risen Jesus.

    • @adysaxman77
      @adysaxman77 6 років тому

      The Trinity Delusion you strain out the gnat and swallow the camel! The Magi were 'law keeping Trinitarians' huh, what is that supposed to mean?They came to worship the King of the Jews, not born by natural means, as were the previous kings of the Davidic lineage, but by supernatural means, making Jesus, the Lord and king of not only the Jews, but the universe! The Magi had knowledge of Jesus being born before the event, by a star that guided them no less! The angels worshipping the risen Lord, just strengthens the evidence that Jesus is God, do you somehow imagine that the angel which spoke to John in Revelation 22:9 was excluded from the act of worshipping Jesus? He obviously wasn't, and he obviously was doing what he had told John to do, and that was to ....... worship God.
      You cherry-pick the answers to the points of matter brought to the fore don't you? Again, if Jesus accepted worship of Himself, being anything other than God in the flesh, then that would have been absolute blasphemy, thereby ruling Himself out of contention of being the 'sinless lamb of God', now please give your answer to this extremely valid point! The Magi were not the only scriptural references to the act of people and angels (even fallen ones in demoniacs, Mark 5:1) worshipping Jesus, both before and after His resurrection.
      Jesus is the Creator of all things, whether in heaven or on earth, you simply just don't believe that do you?

    • @TheTrinityDelusion
      @TheTrinityDelusion  6 років тому +1

      It says they came to bow down before the King of the Jews. All Israel bowed down before King David. He wasn't God either. The Magi weren't Jews or Christians. It's absurd to suppose these men upon seeing baby Jesus thought they were bowing down before the Creator. The text tells us they were bowing down before the King of the Jews. Why do you seek to imagine some fanciful notion into the text?

    • @adysaxman77
      @adysaxman77 6 років тому +1

      The Trinity Delusion again, the cherry picker at work! The ones who bowed to king David (as well as the other kings) did so in subservience, not in worship as though the King were God Most High, but in all of the Scriptural references that I've put forth concerning Jesus and the act of people pre-resurrection and post-resurrection, is one of worshipping. The words that have been transliterated from Greek into English is 'worship' or 'worshipped', and the transliterators made no mistake concerning this. I suppose in your mindset, that this also is a Trinitarian conspiracy? Again, if Jesus was anything other than God in the flesh, (the fact that He did nothing to discourage this proves it) then He could not have possibly been the 'sinless Lamb of God' but rather a blasphemer, yes or no? Simply answer this question.

    • @TheTrinityDelusion
      @TheTrinityDelusion  6 років тому +1

      Now you are just making things up. The words used in the original text whether Hebrew or Greek are the same. Words aren't defined in order to suit your favorite theology. But that is indeed what you are doing - picking and choosing how you want a word to be defined in order to suit your theological needs. As such, you haven't proven anything. And your proposition is also incorrect. Jesus did not need to be God to be a sinless Lamb. Rather, you need to believe what Scripture teaches us - that God is powerful enough to raise up a man to do His work. "The Father abidiing in me does the works" - Jesus.

  • @watchtoweralert1
    @watchtoweralert1 6 років тому +1

    excellent

    • @nabeelyounis7949
      @nabeelyounis7949 6 років тому +1

      Awakened2Truth - Disciple of Jesus the Christ
      Trinity is a revealed doctrine, Yehveh in the old Testament was Trinity,i too had a struggle with Trinity but now I perfectly understand the doctrine of Trinity it's the best way to understand the mighty nature of God.

  • @MrJosephthedreamer10
    @MrJosephthedreamer10 6 років тому +4

    Are we waiting for God to come down from heaven today or are we waiting for God to send Jesus from heaven? When Jesus comes from heaven will he stand everywhere or in one place? Something is wrong with TRINITY. What must come to pass for God to send Jesus? Has God already sent Jesus? I am looking at Acts 3:18-26.... Thanks for making it clear that Jesus is not my father in heaven. Thanks for sharing,,, God bless you.

  • @bardowesselius4121
    @bardowesselius4121 6 років тому

    Brother Kel how exactly would you (better) describe the concept of dual fullfillment in the OT? I tend to see it as a literal fullfillment as a type of a greater fullfillment in the spiritual later on.

    • @TheTrinityDelusion
      @TheTrinityDelusion  6 років тому +4

      Yes I would say thats right. The NT says the Law was a shadow but the body is Christ. The Law came without life, Christ is resurrection life. The Law was like the shadow which a body casts, but Christ was the body itself, the living reality. The Law moon and night but Christ the dawn of day. Let there be light. All creation points to Christ.

  • @sharmainehill1272
    @sharmainehill1272 5 років тому

    can someone tell me who are the us in Gen. when God said "let us make man..? was Jesus already with the Father? Jn says that if you don't believe that Jesus came in the "flesh".. what does that mean?
    Help!!

    • @TheTrinityDelusion
      @TheTrinityDelusion  5 років тому +1

      Angels.
      Trinitarians teach that Jesus literally CAME from heaven. That wouldn't be COMING in flesh would it? No, that would amount to being in flesh only after he came.

    • @4321grp
      @4321grp 3 роки тому

      @@TheTrinityDelusion , Amen!! As in (1John 4:2,3) By this you know the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesses that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is of God, 3 and every spirit that does not confess that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is not of God. And this is the spirit of the Antichrist, which you have heard was coming, and is now already in the world.
      In order to agree with 1John 4:2.3 Jesus would have had to be dwelling in Heaven as a flesh and blood human being, and then travel to Earth to be incarnated in the womb of Mary. If Jesus was God in Heaven(God is Spirit, Not flesh) Jesus could not have come to Earth in the flesh. The incarnation is in direct contradiction with 1John 4:2,3

    • @4321grp
      @4321grp 3 роки тому

      Adam was the first Human Being

  • @NemesisEn4cer
    @NemesisEn4cer Рік тому

    While true, dont mistake mercy and grace for atonement. Jesus paved the way to the Father only. Accepting his/Jesus's sacrifice is not a free pass to paradise. The Father does not have to forgive anything. On the cross, Jesus said "Father forgive them they know not what they do." It is a request from Jesus not a command. He asks the Father to forgive them. Jesus does not command the Father to do anything. In fact, it was the other way around. Hence. Father, if it is you're will remove this cup from me. Not my will Father, you're will be done.

  • @dudleybarnes8574
    @dudleybarnes8574 6 років тому

    Is the horn of savation Jesus or John the baptist? Luke 1:69

    • @TheTrinityDelusion
      @TheTrinityDelusion  6 років тому

      Was John the Baptist anyone's Savior?

    • @FoundationalBibleTruths
      @FoundationalBibleTruths 6 років тому

      Zechariah's Prophecy (Luke 1:67-79) covers BOTH John and Jesus. It was John who prepared THE WAY (Jesus) TO YHWH (the Father). Luke 1:76 and 80 are both speaking of John.

    • @dudleybarnes8574
      @dudleybarnes8574 6 років тому

      The Trinity Delusion
      No, I don't think he is anyones savior but he certianly did pointed, his people to the means of salvation the Messiah. And there was a point when John thought he may have been the savior until he was guided by God that the one upon whom the Spirit rest would be the one. Jn 1:33
      I also thought, maybe he is the horn annoucing the salvation. Just wondering!
      Enjoyed your video it was very helpful! Thanks.

    • @dudleybarnes8574
      @dudleybarnes8574 6 років тому

      The OnlyTrueGod Is TheFATHER
      Yes, that sounds reasonable.

  • @dunklaw
    @dunklaw 5 років тому

    In Hebrew JoshUah (Jesus) & EmanuEl are the poetic play on similar meaning.

  • @ir0ns1de5
    @ir0ns1de5 Рік тому

    John 8 58 reads: Jesus said unto them. Verily verily, I say unto you Before Abraham was. I am

  • @TheChadWork2001
    @TheChadWork2001 4 роки тому +1

    Trinitarianism is a strong delusion to veil the understanding of those who have not repented and who do not humble themselves and seek truth above all else.

  • @michaelbruce9197
    @michaelbruce9197 6 років тому

    At another church I was going to, the pastor used the no one is good verse to say the Jesus was God, I explained it meant Good teacher, good master etc. not that no one is good but God. I showed him that in their Trinity diagram Jesus isn't the Father , that's now keeping him from using all of John to support the Trinity ( minus the word was God, he still likes that).I sent him your video trying to plant seeds when I can. He told me to beware of your videos. Where I'm going now I got in trouble with the pastor for talking about Proverbs 8 to the piano player. Unreal.

    • @TheTrinityDelusion
      @TheTrinityDelusion  6 років тому

      “Enter through the narrow gate; for the gate is wide and the way is broad that leads to destruction, and there are many who enter through it. 14 For the gate is small and the way is narrow that leads to life, and there are few who find it.

  • @peterstewart3093
    @peterstewart3093 5 років тому

    there is one Spirit , should I say his name ?

  • @wombofcreation1731
    @wombofcreation1731 6 років тому +6

    You know! I see that Jesus supposedly pretending to be God is LYING! If he was really the Father and he was playing around with us! Ridiculous! Jesus didn't trick us! He isn't His God! Total idocy the trinity!

    • @johnbee1069
      @johnbee1069 5 років тому +2

      It's just terrible isn't it?
      I have never seen such an obvious deception as with the trinity doctrine, and yet so many simply believe it.

  • @MiCasaMiCasa777
    @MiCasaMiCasa777 6 місяців тому

    Wow, what an excellent presentation. I can sense the neo-platonic ideology burning to a crisp in the face of the Almighty as this plays. Dance on its ashes I say. Serious, but hope you get a laugh out of it.

  • @ZeldaWildcoffee
    @ZeldaWildcoffee 6 місяців тому

    Although I have never adopted the Trinitarian theory, I must say I have learned a great deal from your videos. Only recently discovered your channel but been studying scripture for 8 months or so now. I would like to point out though that person's and humans is from the devil Satan. God Yahweh created men and woman and not person's or humans, Satan did through his devils advocates. We do not get to claim salvation if we have a title or a surname. Job 32 verses 21 and 22 is clear. If we are a person or one with a title we will be lead away which means executed. Person comes from the Greek word kanah which is one with a title especially a surname.
    We are told to be no part of the world which is defined in the King James Concordance as " The ornamental world of mankind" it is fake, and we cannot underestimate the spell of Satan, he is in their as he is the ruler of the world. So when Ceacer Augustus declared himself saviour of the common people of Rome, he was talking in a legal sense. You will be my subjects under Satan. Because their power is derived from all those that deny the Messiah. The whole world is lying in the power of the wicked one.
    God created Man and Woman, Satan has created legal fictions, person's and humans. The definition of humanism is the denying of the Messiah believing mankind will reach perfection on their own. 2 Peter 2 verse one to three. Proverbs 11:15. Colossians 2:13 to 15 ASV. Look of legal in Samuel Johnson 1755 dictionary online. Look up secular. Look up surname. Look up Gentile black's law dictionary defined surname as a name added to ones real name.

  • @brandonkuhn6985
    @brandonkuhn6985 6 років тому

    What do you think Jesus meant when he said he came down from Heaven?

    • @TheTrinityDelusion
      @TheTrinityDelusion  6 років тому +2

      There was a man sent from God whose name was John. Jn 1:6
      The baptism of John was from heaven or from men? Matthew 21:25
      They are not of the world just as I am not of the world. John 17:14
      For I have come down from heaven, not to do my own will, but the will of Him who sent me.
      The bread of God is THAT WHICH comes down out of heaven and gives life to the world. 6:33
      The bread also which I will give for the life of the world is MY FLESH.... THIS is the bread which came down out of heaven. 6:51-58
      Every spirit that does not confess Jesus Christ has come in flesh is not from God.

    • @brandonkuhn6985
      @brandonkuhn6985 6 років тому +1

      The Trinity Delusion quoting bible verses is not answering my question. Do you believe he literally came down from heaven or do you think he is being cryptic and metaphorical

    • @TheTrinityDelusion
      @TheTrinityDelusion  6 років тому +1

      Those verses answer your question directly. But as always, you rather choose to be willfully obtuse.

    • @brandonkuhn6985
      @brandonkuhn6985 6 років тому +1

      The Trinity Delusion i didn't want you to quote bible verses i wanted to know what you truly think jesus means when he says he came down from Heaven. Do you think he was being literal

    • @TheTrinityDelusion
      @TheTrinityDelusion  6 років тому +1

      I just showed you. What do you think the Apostle John meant when he said John the Baptist was sent from God? Or Jesus when he asked whether his baptism was from heaven? What do you think Nicodemus meant when he said they knew Jesus came from God? You can never know the answers to these things if you choose to only hear what you want to hear.

  • @FOMC6780
    @FOMC6780 Рік тому

    Brother Kel, how about this The Trinity God is a shape-shifting being but only the second person of the Trinity can be Totally Devine and Human in the same existence but I thought they are all Co-equal?
    Trinitarians say Jesus is God so how can God be a minister to the Jews as this passage says?
    That ye with one mind, and with one mouth may praise God, even the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ. Wherefore receive ye one another, as Christ also received us to the glory of God. Now I say, that Jesus Christ was a minister of the circumcision, for the truth of God, to confirm the promises made unto the fathers. Now the God of patience and consolation give you that ye be like-minded one towards another, according to Christ Jesus, For whatsoever things are written aforetime, are written for our learning, that we through patience, and comfort of the Scriptures might have hope. For Christ also would not please himself, but as it is written, The rebukes of them which rebuke thee, fell on me. Therefore let every man please his neighbor in that that is good to edification.
    🐟Rom.15:2-8 GNV

  • @Romerosays
    @Romerosays 6 років тому

    TriNUTtarians should be pressed here to distinguish the difference between the name Immanuel and Yahweh.

  • @michaelbruce9197
    @michaelbruce9197 6 років тому

    Hello thank you for this study. I have been watching your videos for about 3 years. I comment to show my support. It is hard to show a trinity preacher the truth. The pastor at my church said God pays taxes, Jesus created everything etc. He ruins good sermons with Trinity stuff. I show him how he is wrong in the best way I can, never works. It's like robotic behavior. It feels like a lost cause. They some how are supper dupper smarter than us in their minds. I read the same bible as he does. I go word for word for word, and he turns it all into Jesus is God. I said as a joke Jesus said" build that ark", and guess what he thinks I'm understanding the Trinity finally.🤕

    • @TheTrinityDelusion
      @TheTrinityDelusion  6 років тому +6

      You will find that most people really don't care about the truth when fulfilling their personal desires is at stake. Their only concern is what they want the truth to be. They will refuse to conform to the truth if it does not suit their personal desires. You cannot reason with such a person unless you happen to be discussing a subject which is unimportant to their personal desires. It's the same reason the Pharisees refused to hear Jesus. He wasn't telling them what they wanted to hear. Such people want their itching ears tickled and they don't care whether your message is truth or lies as long as it appeals to them. This is sick behavior but you will find that it is very widespread.

  • @lonnierandall7882
    @lonnierandall7882 Рік тому

    How can the God who is one appear as a man standing before the tent of Abraham while He is still enthroned in heaven and still be present in every place in creation all at the same time? It is because He is the Father and He is the Son and He is the Holy Spirit. But if you don't understand that, He is a stone of stumbling to you.
    De 6:4 ¶ Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God is one LORD:
    The Meaning of One
    1Co 6:17 But he that is joined unto the Lord is ONE Spirit.
    The Spirit is God's essence. Spirit is what God is, and the Spirit He is is the Holy Spirit. That is the missing key to understanding "the Father, the Son and the Holy Ghost. The reason the Father and the Son are One is because they are the Holy Spirit and there is only One Holy Spirit. This scripture makes it plain. The Spirit is also how we are one in them when we believe.
    Ro 8:9 But ye are not in the flesh, but IN THE SPIRIT, if so be that THE SPIRIT OF GOD DWELL IN YOU. Now if any man have not THE SPIRIT OF CHRIST, he is none of his.
    10 ¶ And if CHRIST be IN YOU, the body is dead because of sin; but THE SPIRIT IS LIFE because of righteousness.
    11 But if THE SPIRIT OF HIM THAT RAISED UP JESUS from the dead DWELL IN YOU, he that raised up Christ from the dead shall also quicken your mortal bodies by HIS SPIRIT THAT DWELLETH IN YOU.
    Ro 12:5 So WE, BEING MANY, ARE ONE BODY IN CHRIST, and every one members one of another.
    1Co 10:17 For we being many are ONE BREAD, and ONE BODY: for we are all partakers of that ONE BREAD.
    1Co 12:12 ¶ For as THE BODY IS ONE, AND HATH MANY MEMBERS, and all the members of that ONE BODY, being many, are ONE BODY: SO ALSO IS CHRIST.
    In the exact same way, Jesus said,...
    Joh 10:30 I AND my Father ARE ONE.
    Joh 17:11 ¶ And now I am no more in the world, but these are in the world, and I come to thee. Holy Father, keep through thine own name those whom thou hast given me, that THEY MAY BE ONE AS WE ARE: (IN THE SAME WAY)
    Joh 17:20 ¶ Neither pray I for these alone, but for THEM ALSO WHICH SHALL BELIEVE IN ME through their word;
    21 THAT THEY ALL MAY BE ONE; AS THOU, FATHER, ART IN ME, AND I IN THEE, THAT THEY ALSO MAY BE ONE IN US: that the world may believe that thou hast sent me.
    22 And the glory which thou gavest me I have given them; that THEY MAY BE ONE, AS WE ARE ONE: (IN THE SAME WAY)
    23 I IN THEM AND THOU IN ME, that they may be made perfect IN ONE; and that the world may know that thou hast sent me, and hast loved them, as thou hast loved me.
    Joh 17:24 ¶ Father, I WILL THAT THEY ALSO, WHOM THOU HAS GIVEN ME, BE WITH ME WHERE I AM; that they may behold my glory, which thou hast given me: for THOU LOVEDST ME BEFORE THE FOUNDATION OF THE WORLD.
    25 O righteous Father, the world hath not known thee: but I have known thee, and these have known that thou hast sent me.
    26 And I have declared unto them thy name, and will declare it: that the love wherewith thou hast loved me may be in them, and I IN THEM.
    Joh 14:16 And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another COMFORTER, that he may abide with you for ever;
    17 Even THE SPIRIT OF TRUTH; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for HE DWELLETH WITH YOU, AND SHALL BE IN YOU.
    18 ¶ I will not leave you comfortless: I WILL COME TO YOU.
    Joh 14:23 Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and WE WILL COME UNTO HIM, AND MAKE OUR ABODE WITH HIM.
    Jesus comes to us in the Holy Spirit. The Spirit doesn't leave them, it emanates from them. That is how God is omnipresent. His Spirit permeates every place in heaven and earth.
    Joh 20:21 Then said Jesus to them again, Peace be unto you: as my Father hath sent me, even so send I you.
    22 And when he had said this, he breathed on them, and saith unto them, Receive ye the Holy Ghost:
    Mt 7:7 ¶ Ask, and it shall be given you;
    Lu 11:13 If ye then, being evil, know how to give good gifts unto your children: how much more shall your heavenly Father give the Holy Spirit to them that ask him?
    In the book of Revelation, in the last two chapters, where it talks about the new heaven and the new earth, we find no mention of the Holy Spirit. But the Holy Spirit is there, in the Father and the Son. What we do see is a river of life flowing out of the throne.
    Re 22:1 ¶ And he shewed me a pure river of water of life, clear as crystal, proceeding out of the throne of God and of the Lamb.
    Joh 7:37 ¶ In the last day, that great day of the feast, Jesus stood and cried, saying, If any man thirst, let him come unto me, and drink. 38 He that believeth on me, as the scripture hath said, out of his belly shall flow rivers of living water. 39 (But this spake he of the Spirit, which they that believe on him should receive: for the Holy Ghost was not yet given; because that Jesus was not yet glorified.)
    Joh 4:10 Jesus answered and said unto her, If thou knewest the gift of God, and who it is that saith to thee, Give me to drink; thou wouldest have asked of him, and he would have given thee living water. 11 The woman saith unto him, Sir, thou hast nothing to draw with, and the well is deep: from whence then hast thou that living water? 12 Art thou greater than our father Jacob, which gave us the well, and drank thereof himself, and his children, and his cattle? 13 Jesus answered and said unto her, Whosoever drinketh of this water shall thirst again: 14 But whosoever drinketh of the water that I shall give him shall never thirst; but the water that I shall give him shall be in him a well of water springing up into everlasting life.
    Trinity isn’t a good explanation of the Father, Son and Holy Spirit. Look at these references to the Holy Spirit. These are from the kjv.
    Holy Spirit, Holy Ghost, the Spirit, Spirit of God, Spirit of Jesus Christ, Spirit of the Lord , Spirit of Christ, Spirit of the living God, Spirit of our God, Spirit of your Father, holy Spirit of God, Spirit which is of God, Spirit of His Son, his Holy Spirit, My Spirit, His Spirit, the Lord is that Spirit, Spirit of grace, holy Spirit of promise, Spirit of adoption, Spirit of life in Christ, Spirit of life from God, the Spirit itself.
    The way the Spirit is described in scripture as being "of God" and "of His Son" and being "His Spirit", it doesn't sound like a third person. The Spirit isn't a third person. It is what God is. Just as you and I are human beings, the Father and Son are Holy Spirit. The idea “trinity” was not conceived until about a hundred and fifty years after the crucifixion. It was not until the Synod of Alexandria in 362 A. D. that this hypothesis became doctrine.
    Catholic Encyclopedia
    Trinity: The Dogma of the Trinity:
    "The Trinity is the term employed to signify the central doctrine of the Christian religion - the truth that in the unity of the Godhead there are THREE PERSONS, the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit, these THREE PERSONS being truly distinct one from another."
    "The Persons are CO-ETERNAL and CO-EQUAL: all alike are uncreated and omnipotent."
    "In Scripture there is as yet no single term by which the Divine Persons are denoted together. The word TPIAS (of which the Latin TRINITAS is a translation) is first found in Theophilus of Antioch about A.D. 180. He speaks of “the TRINITY of God [the Father], His WORD and His WISDOM” (“AD. AUTO1”., II, 15, P.G., VI, 1078). The term may, of course have been in use before his time. Shortly afterwards it appears in its Latin form of TRINITAS in Tertullian (“De pud”, c. xxi, P.G., II 1026). In the next century the word is in general use. It is found in many passages of origin.
    "The writers of this school contend that The doctrine of the Trinity, as professed by the Church, is not contained in the New Testament, but it was first formulated in the second century and recieved final aprobation in the fourth century, as the result of the Arian and Macedonian controversies."
    The New Catholic Encyclopedia - 1967, VOL. XIV, PAGE 299:
    The formulation “one God in three Persons" was not solidly established, certainly not fully assimilated into Christian life and its profession of faith, prior to the end of the fourth century. But it is precisely this formulation that first claimed to title “The Trinitarian Dogma.” Among the apostlic fathers, there had been nothing even remotely approaching such a mentality or perspective.
    Joh 4:24 God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.
    Spirit is what God is, and the Spirit He is is the Holy Spirit. There is only One Holy Spirit, therefore, God is One.
    Php 1:19 For I know that this shall turn to my salvation through your prayer, and the supply of the Spirit of Jesus Christ,
    Lu 11:9 And I say unto you, Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and ye shall find; knock, and it shall be opened unto you.
    10 For every one that asketh receiveth; and he that seeketh findeth; and to him that knocketh it shall be opened.
    Lu 11:13 If ye then, being evil, know how to give good gifts unto your children: how much more shall your heavenly Father give the Holy Spirit to them that ask him?

  • @wombofcreation1731
    @wombofcreation1731 6 років тому

    Let 'em have 'the sheriff, the cook and the judge'...they're nuts really; trinity is absolute confusion.

    • @nedalikloub9790
      @nedalikloub9790 4 роки тому

      the wrong quote: Emmanuel Matthew 1:23 "The virgin will conceive and give birth to a son, and they will call him Immanuel" (which means "God with us") Looking at the text in Isaiah's book , we find that the Evangelists have erred in the quote
      Isaiah 7:14 Therefore the Lord himself will give you a sign: The virgin will conceive and give birth to a son, and will call him Immanuel See the original text in Hebrew Definition almah is : a young woman or a virgin biblehub.com/hebrew/5959.htm
      Refer to the book of 2 Kings 16:1/2 In the seventeenth year of Pekah son of Remaliah, Ahaz son of Jotham king of Judah began to reign Ahaz was twenty years old when he became king, and he reigned in Jerusalem sixteen years. Unlike David his father, he did not do what was right in the eyes of the LORD his God 2 Kings 18:1/2 In the third year of Hoshea son of Elah king of Israel, Hezekiah son of Ahaz king of Judah began to reign He was Isaiah ... twenty-five years old when he became king, and he reigned in Jerusalem twenty-nine years. His mother's name was Abijah daughter of Zechariah
      Through the texts of the book of Kings 2, it becomes clear to us that Ahaz, the father of Hezekiah, was married when he was 10 years old ; Of course his wife was also young
      Immanuel see text 2 Kings 18:7 And the LORD was with him; and he prospered wherever he went forth: and he rebelled against the king of Assyria, and served him not Immanuel : See the text of Kings : God with see. See the text of Matthew the Lord was with him
      Looking at the texts of the book of Kings 2 and Isaiah we get to know the truth out who Emmanuel is ... Immanuel is (Hezekiah)

  • @ZeldaVandermerwe-c3b
    @ZeldaVandermerwe-c3b 5 місяців тому

    But Trinitarians don t like facts.

  • @wombofcreation1731
    @wombofcreation1731 6 років тому

    Why is it SO difficult for people to understand that Jesus has a GOD! It is our Father GOD! GOOD grief! He wasn't a schizophrenic people!

  • @johnb4632
    @johnb4632 6 років тому

    The Trinity Delusion; You have the spirit of the anti christ because you don't believe in the Incarnation.What is the Incarnation.The Incarnation, the divine manifest in the flesh, is Wisdom Incarnate. "Every spirit which acknowledges that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is from God, and every spirit which does not thus acknowledge Jesus is not from God" (1 Jn 4:2-3).
    Your spirit is not of God.
    During the annunciation of the angel, who invites Joseph to take to himself Mary, his wife, for that which is conceived in her is of the Holy Spirit, Matthew gives a Christological and Marian significance to the prophecy. In fact, he adds: "All this took place to fulfil what the Lord had spoken by the prophet: 'Behold, a virgin shall conceive and bear a son, and his name shall be called Emmanuel' (which means God-with-us)" (Mt 1:22-23).
    In the Hebrew text this prophecy does not explicitly foretell the virginal birth of Emmanuel: the word used (almah), in fact, simply means "a young woman", not necessarily a virgin. Moreover, we know that Jewish tradition did not hold up the idea of perpetual virginity, nor did it ever express the idea of virginal motherhood.
    The Lord himself will give you a sign.
    In the Greek tradition, however, the Hebrew word was translated "parthenos", "virgin". In this fact, which could seem merely a peculiarity of translation, we must recognize a mysterious orientation given by the Holy Spirit to Isaiah's words in order to prepare for the understanding of the Messiah's extraordinary birth.
    Christ was concealed in the old testament but revealed in the new testament.
    Jews are non believers.
    The moral of the story is that in the original context, the prophecy of Isaiah 7:14 was the divine reply to a lack of faith on the part of King Ahaz, who, threatened with an invasion from the armies of the neighbouring kings, sought his own salvation and that of his kingdom in Assyria's protection.
    In advising him to put his trust solely in God and to reject the dreadful Assyrian intervention, the prophet Isaiah invites him on the Lord's behalf to make an act of faith in God's power: "Ask a sign of the Lord your God". At the king's refusal, for he preferred to seek salvation in human aid.
    The angel Gabriel a messenger angel appeared to Zachary St.John the baptist father he did not believe and God punished him by being a mute until John was born as in Luke's gospel.
    Whereas because your spirit is not of God and don't understand the Blessed Virgin you are confused because Mary the Virgin said Fiat Yes for all of humanity and believed right away as the Angel Gabriel appeared to her.
    No Mary no Jesus.This is the sign.The Jews don't believe.
    You are still having trouble believing.
    Did not Gabriel say you will have a son and name him Jesus.
    When John was born Gabriel told Elizabeth to call John the Baptist John but she said no one in the Jewish culture in named John.That's why in modern culture the Jews remove the h in John and call themselves John like Jon Stewart a Jew from the Daily Show lol.
    My point in Jewish culture it was the authority of the male Jew or husband to name the first born.But God was changing the rules so to speak and God wanted Mary to specifically name her child Jesus.This is because protestants don'y understand as Mary has played and will play a huge role in end times including play a huge role in our salvation.
    Genesis 3;15 She Mary will crush the serpent's head.
    Now get into the ball game or we will need you to sit on the bench. lol.

    • @TheTrinityDelusion
      @TheTrinityDelusion  6 років тому +1

      "You have the spirit of the anti christ because you don't believe in the Incarnation.What is the Incarnation.The Incarnation, the divine manifest in the flesh, is Wisdom Incarnate. "Every spirit which acknowledges that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is from God, and every spirit which does not thus acknowledge Jesus is not from God" (1 Jn 4:2-3)."
      Read that again. "Every spirit which acknowledges that Jesus Christ CAME in the flesh..." You claim Jesus came from heaven in flesh? No you don't. Who has the spirit of antichrist now?

    • @greenman5255
      @greenman5255 6 років тому

      John b: you are satan in the flesh. Get behind us satan. Return to the abyss from whence thee came. If Mary is going to crush the serpent's head, then it would obviously be your head. On a different note, how's the pope doing?

    • @greenman5255
      @greenman5255 6 років тому +1

      Well Johnny, I was simply being sarcastic, so I'm glad you found my comment "laughable". john b had the audacity to claim ttd had the "spirit of the anti Christ", so I was just responding to him, in his own fashion. I'm not really sure what all that other stuff you're blowing on about. Maybe you also have bad reading comprehension?

    • @vaidasguzelis9263
      @vaidasguzelis9263 6 років тому

      john b false religions teach incarnation..

    • @johnb4632
      @johnb4632 6 років тому

      Johnny boy; lol; the catholic church has been around for 2,000 years you are going to listen to history revisionists lol.
      Pharisee sorry I am not a lawyer; either were the early church fathers all catholic in their thinking.We are near end times don't be deceived by the false teachers preaching another gospel that was not passed down.
      1 Timothy 3;15
      15 But if I tarry long, that thou mayest know how thou oughtest to behave thyself in the house of God, which is the church of the living God, the pillar and ground of the truth.