Fully 100% back this. Broken or bent too many decks over the years, and it's always meant I will had to get rid of a sweet deck. Having the TDI system is genius. Completely agree on the axle/spacer standardisation. I work for Doggscooters, and I can't tell ya how many people I get coming in with different sizes of spacers and decks, expecting me to have every single type of component available 😂. Counting the days until Proto drops the 6" space deck so I can join the future ❤️
This is one point we forgot to mention but yes, it reduces shipping logistics and aluminum waste both of which the scooter industry can have a better impact on world resources with.
I love you Andrew. You are the god father of modern day freestyle scooters. Forever creating new and better products. True core vibes right here. Never give up. !!!
Andrew you truly are a genius! Coming from a shop where I have worked on so many scooters of all shapes and sizes and trying to find spacers and axles for them is an absolute nightmare so the standardized spacers and axles is complete and utter genius plus supporting a brand like Proto is always work it because you truly care about scootering which you don’t find from a lot of places now a days so again I say thank you Andrew you’re the greatest
learnt more here than I did taking business for 2 years back in the day. Only Andrew could teach such a thing to the industry, whilst basically firing shots at companies that produce whole piece systems. Gotta say that the whole pricing strategy is amazing, but my fear is other companies may catch on and... (pherhaps shouldn't say the rest) but I genuinely hope this all goes according to plan!
@@PROTOScooters Thanks for replying Andrew. Yes that's the sad truth unfortnatley, however whatever happens, I'm sure you have something in your arsenal. 2019 is yours💚
Would love to see 5.5, 5.75 and 6 wide decks and 22.5, 22.75, 23, 24 etc. I currently run 5.2 x 23 but feel like 5.2 isn't wide enough and 23 is a little long. Feel like 5.75 x 22.75 would be nice.
definitely see all the benefits Elmer bin telling me the same stuff u saying in all ur videos I would love to see proto take over and become the real true stander in scooters
At 4:51 Andrew mentions using shoulder screws "for their extremely tight fit", but isn't the point of shoulder screws to be bottomed out so the shoulder is in double-shear? Looking at the cross-section at 5:21, the screws are fastening the neck to the deck from both sides, so wouldn't bolts with lock washers achieve the same, if not greater, rigidity for less? I don't intend to criticize, obviously Mr. Broussard knows his product better than anyone, and his years of research have rewarded the scooter industry with numerous innovations. I'm just curious that's all.
Technically the hardware we are using is not a true shoulder screw because the shoulder and the threads are the same diameter, true shoulder screws do have smaller threads so the cylinder can bottom out and be used as a pivot point in some applications, the TDITH hardware is just a standard shoulder bolt but was easier to describe the way we did for the video sake. Also, if you have ever noticed when you run an axles with threads in the drop outs, the threads start digging into the dropout because there is less surface area making contact. Essentially the same thing happened when we used the heli coils, a threaded shaft makes virtually no contact aside from the points of the threads versus a flat cylindrical shank which makes full supported contact. Hope that explains!
PROTO scooters I’m debating on getting a tsi or a space deck but I’m worried it’s gonna be not wide enough because I don’t really wanna switch back to 5 wide
I fully back this 100%, but I think the main reason why people don't ride these decks and stuff is because they are a little beefy and heavy compared to most decks out there, if they were lighter and ect people would buy loads of them ❤️
PROTO NEX & DEX are still manufactured in the United States which is the only reason they are still a little expensive. We strongly believe that if someone spends the extra money to support our products, it is our duty to deliver a product that lasts as long as possible as strong as possible which generally means adding material (and weight) where other decks are breaking to guarantee a longer lifespan.
Yoooo this is crazy, I never thought I'd like something like the tdi DeX and nex. But once he broke it down, it opened my eyes to a lot of other things 💯 appreciate you guys over at proto. I'd like to put this invention to use though 👀 when can you ship me one?
You should have received the announcement but they will be available for wholesale when we restock all the sizes in a week or so. And Than You for the Support, we are really looking forward to getting feedback from shops on this project finally!
this is deceiving as a shop would have to still stock just as many headtubes as deck plates to sell the same amount of decks, if a shop only stock 5 nex and 10 dex that is only 5 complete decks they can sell, with 5 deck extrusions left over.
Love your vids, but isnt your tdi system patented? Essentially making standardization of this system impossible? Other companies would need to make extrusions compatible with your necks and that would be illegal. Am i wrong?
ethan salsbury you’re wrong in that he’d have to press charges on the company for using the patent. But if he chooses to let other companies use it they can. It’s the same thing as the scs. Proto owns the patent for SCS but allows other companies to use the system
It is Patented and we will control when and how other companies use the TDI system that we developed to ensure that the quality and compatibility of our system is not jeopardized.
Our goal is to standardize and stabilize the scooter industry for everyone involved. We will do our best to supply the specs that the market demands but ultimately TDI is bigger than just us.
At some point everyone else will wake up to this man’s genius.
Hes been ridin six inch WAYYY before aztek and urbanartt!
Fully 100% back this. Broken or bent too many decks over the years, and it's always meant I will had to get rid of a sweet deck. Having the TDI system is genius. Completely agree on the axle/spacer standardisation. I work for Doggscooters, and I can't tell ya how many people I get coming in with different sizes of spacers and decks, expecting me to have every single type of component available 😂. Counting the days until Proto drops the 6" space deck so I can join the future ❤️
the time is now
@@Coleginter the time is now!
Wake up bro the seven been here for a year nearly
Your passion for riding is amazing, so so grateful for Ur effort in the freestyle scooter world ! Thank you
its a very good financial consideration. shipping costs are very expensiv. good for the climate change
This is one point we forgot to mention but yes, it reduces shipping logistics and aluminum waste both of which the scooter industry can have a better impact on world resources with.
rickelytrickely buying the full tdi kit I was charged upwards 200 in tax when buying parts alone it doesn’t get taxed
I love you Andrew. You are the god father of modern day freestyle scooters. Forever creating new and better products. True core vibes right here. Never give up. !!!
Much love!
Andrew you truly are a genius! Coming from a shop where I have worked on so many scooters of all shapes and sizes and trying to find spacers and axles for them is an absolute nightmare so the standardized spacers and axles is complete and utter genius plus supporting a brand like Proto is always work it because you truly care about scootering which you don’t find from a lot of places now a days so again I say thank you Andrew you’re the greatest
This is brilliant. I hope this strategy plays out successfully.
This is truly phenomenal. TDI is the next frontier for scootering.
Definitely opened my eyes to the benefits of interchangeable necks. Guess I know what I'm getting for a deck when 5.5 wides come out
learnt more here than I did taking business for 2 years back in the day. Only Andrew could teach such a thing to the industry, whilst basically firing shots at companies that produce whole piece systems. Gotta say that the whole pricing strategy is amazing, but my fear is other companies may catch on and... (pherhaps shouldn't say the rest) but I genuinely hope this all goes according to plan!
The future is unavoidable, whatever it may be.
@@PROTOScooters Thanks for replying Andrew. Yes that's the sad truth unfortnatley, however whatever happens, I'm sure you have something in your arsenal. 2019 is yours💚
TDI is the future of scootering !!!
Please put on market 5.5 decks
In the works!
It’s so weird reading this in 2020 as there’s now a wider deck plate out can’t wait for it
Andrew is the goat
As soon as that 6x22 deck plate drops I’m copping
Edit: please god make a 6x22
Couldn’t be happier with my proto deck!🤘🤘🤘
YEA ANDREW THIS IS THE FUTURE OF THE SCOOTER DESING
THIS IS PROTO SCOOTER!!
This is like actually so fkn sick
Proto México ❤️
5.5 and 6.0 are so good 🔥🔥
Already watching it 18 minutes after posted
Proto make the 6 wide please. Btw love the video Andrew good work.
welp i know what my next setup is gonna be .... love the modular setups
Hell yeah andrew 🖤
Will the 7" and 8" inch will really be released ?! 😍
I hope so much !
Still waiting hopefully they get released soon
I know I’m a year late but I’m really considering about buying this. 5 wide is a perfect size for me, its a good wat to save money, and ride proto🛴
Awesome!
See new vid from proto I click right away
i got a juzzy deck and its never going to die on me and i can Guarantee that.
Would love to see 5.5, 5.75 and 6 wide decks and 22.5, 22.75, 23, 24 etc. I currently run 5.2 x 23 but feel like 5.2 isn't wide enough and 23 is a little long. Feel like 5.75 x 22.75 would be nice.
I need 5,324375295718 wide
@@scooterobservatory damn good luck
JannyUK thanks haha
Anything is possible with enough time and resources dedicated to TDI.
When are the new full size clamps coming out
Summer 2019
I would definitely get this deck, but one issue I have is how it's only a 6 wide. Though would definitely love to see a 6.5.
It will be done soon.
definitely see all the benefits Elmer bin telling me the same stuff u saying in all ur videos I would love to see proto take over and become the real true stander in scooters
Plz make a park size for small people because I really want to ride one of these
5 wide is park asf
Felix Corcoran no park, just small size, park is not obviously small
5.5" and 6" "street" style decks are up next but any size and shape is possible in the future to suit any riding style. Time will tell!
At 4:51 Andrew mentions using shoulder screws "for their extremely tight fit", but isn't the point of shoulder screws to be bottomed out so the shoulder is in double-shear? Looking at the cross-section at 5:21, the screws are fastening the neck to the deck from both sides, so wouldn't bolts with lock washers achieve the same, if not greater, rigidity for less? I don't intend to criticize, obviously Mr. Broussard knows his product better than anyone, and his years of research have rewarded the scooter industry with numerous innovations. I'm just curious that's all.
Technically the hardware we are using is not a true shoulder screw because the shoulder and the threads are the same diameter, true shoulder screws do have smaller threads so the cylinder can bottom out and be used as a pivot point in some applications, the TDITH hardware is just a standard shoulder bolt but was easier to describe the way we did for the video sake. Also, if you have ever noticed when you run an axles with threads in the drop outs, the threads start digging into the dropout because there is less surface area making contact. Essentially the same thing happened when we used the heli coils, a threaded shaft makes virtually no contact aside from the points of the threads versus a flat cylindrical shank which makes full supported contact. Hope that explains!
@@PROTOScooters that makes a lot of sense, thanks for the reply!
this video is godly
I would make the change to TDI but the decks just aren’t wide enough! Could you please make a 6” wide plate
Yes. All sizes are possible as time and resources allow.
PROTO scooters I’m debating on getting a tsi or a space deck but I’m worried it’s gonna be not wide enough because I don’t really wanna switch back to 5 wide
Hell ya andrew sick video G
release a 6” deck and i'll be straight back on tdi !
Agreed
hell yeah!
am i see right? 7:30, 8 inches wide ??? plss i need it
next deck for sure 7X23
8 x 24 is my favorite
@@scooterobservatory its literally a skateboard 🤣🤣
Kökény Kristóf skateboard have 4 wheels
@@kokenykristof true hahahaha
I fully back this 100%, but I think the main reason why people don't ride these decks and stuff is because they are a little beefy and heavy compared to most decks out there, if they were lighter and ect people would buy loads of them ❤️
PROTO NEX & DEX are still manufactured in the United States which is the only reason they are still a little expensive. We strongly believe that if someone spends the extra money to support our products, it is our duty to deliver a product that lasts as long as possible as strong as possible which generally means adding material (and weight) where other decks are breaking to guarantee a longer lifespan.
@@PROTOScooters ❤️❤️❤️
Wish I had a 5.5 deckplate w a sig graphic I hope to see them one day 🙏
It's cool and all but, not even a singel shop has them :/
emil grefsrud Not only that but some people don’t want 2 peace decks and want a normal deck
@@nextgentrash8329 tru tru
Distribution is opening for shop Next Month!
@@PROTOScooters yes😙😙😙
Outset and the vault
id love to have one. Please make them in a 6 wide though. only way ill get one.
Yoooo this is crazy, I never thought I'd like something like the tdi DeX and nex. But once he broke it down, it opened my eyes to a lot of other things 💯 appreciate you guys over at proto. I'd like to put this invention to use though 👀 when can you ship me one?
King
Thanks bro
cool but, we've been buying these at retail for our riders ... when are you going to start supporting shops with decks at wholesale?
You should have received the announcement but they will be available for wholesale when we restock all the sizes in a week or so. And Than You for the Support, we are really looking forward to getting feedback from shops on this project finally!
The only reason I don't run a proto deck is that they don't make a 83 degree headtube
Noice
this is deceiving as a shop would have to still stock just as many headtubes as deck plates to sell the same amount of decks, if a shop only stock 5 nex and 10 dex that is only 5 complete decks they can sell, with 5 deck extrusions left over.
ok now i want to buy a proto deck
So true
If only they were available in UK stores...
They are shipping to Europe for distribution as we speak.
I love it so so so mutch
8 wide wtf 🤯
This is the future, so better than mini "park" scoot
@@scooterobservatory why do you think i would ride park
SaltyCrew it's not against you
so whens 5.5 coming out?
Fall/Winter 2019
@@PROTOScooters Thanks! Will the old headtubes still be compatible? Also, will it be able to handle wider wheels like 12std or the 120's by 30's?
@@natet4649 Yes, all TDI components are compatible, that is the STANDARD. Wider/bigger wheels will happen when the time is right.
when are we getting the new deckplates mines gonna snap
when do you guys restock?
The next restock is in between anodize, laser engrave and final packaging so should be sometime next week.
sick
If every scooter brand owner cared this much the sport would be growing. But 90% of brands don’t care about anything
I need that 8 wide
Im sad i gave away my space deck because it was too heavy for my bad knees :( nonetheless it felt legendary to ride
Is the 5.5 out?
Fall/Winter 2019.
nice
😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍
Круто надо покупать
Love your vids, but isnt your tdi system patented? Essentially making standardization of this system impossible? Other companies would need to make extrusions compatible with your necks and that would be illegal. Am i wrong?
ethan salsbury you’re wrong in that he’d have to press charges on the company for using the patent. But if he chooses to let other companies use it they can. It’s the same thing as the scs. Proto owns the patent for SCS but allows other companies to use the system
@@nickolashernandez5172 gotcha, thanks!
It is Patented and we will control when and how other companies use the TDI system that we developed to ensure that the quality and compatibility of our system is not jeopardized.
This is the future if you drop a 5.5 or 6 wide
Please make a 6 by 22 on the market
Came to watch an overview, left with a masters degree in commerce
❤️
What about the weight of the space
We focus on compatibility, strength and performance. In that order.
my weird old boss used to call me a scooter enthusiast
Am i the only one who wants to see 22.5x 5.25? :/
When are you going to capture the worldwide market?
Our goal is to standardize and stabilize the scooter industry for everyone involved. We will do our best to supply the specs that the market demands but ultimately TDI is bigger than just us.
Cool
So where are the 6 wide decks
6" will likely be a 2020 release. 5.5" is up next.
Найс
Damn a 8 deck
Make a 5+ please
It is in the works already.
I want it so bad
science of scootering
watching this again after the ares deck is crazy,i really thought the next one after the saturn was going to be 7x24,still hoping for that 8x24/24.5 🙌
I support the hell out of this, but I’m still partial to one-piece decks
Ying Golg the neck just looks so bulky
Give it time.
Need 22.5x5.2 soooo bad
French subtitle ?
Also first
8 WIDE??????? W H A T
Mans just ripped on early tsi decks so hard
please just send it and make 6 7 and 8 inch decks for the fun of it
can i please get a 7/24 already
fucking cool
WIDER SPACE DECKS??!!!
On the way!
Hello
Я 1
really trying to sell there product aye, hehehehe,
охуенный выбор!