Chogyam Trungpa at Oxford (Buddhist teacher), Tenzin Palmo
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- Опубліковано 22 сер 2024
- Jetsunma Tenzin Palmo is one of the Western pioneers of Tibetan Buddhism. She recalls Chogyam Trungpa while he was a student at Oxford. Becoming fluent in English, Trungpa Rinpoche would go on to be a major figure in Buddhism's migration to the West. #Buddhism #trungpa
Chogyam Trungpa was the author of books such as
- Cutting Through Spiritual Materialism amzn.to/3EHWfag
- The Myth of Freedom amzn.to/3mITr6p
As a young woman in England, Tenzin Palmo was a member of the Buddhist Society (in England) and met the first Tibetan lamas who came to the West. She would move to India to explore the dharma, becoming secretary to Freda Bedi at the Young Lama Home School before taking nun ordination, then later doing 12 years of solitary retreat. Freda Bedi's (remarkable) life story is told in amzn.to/3CD8Z1f
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Tenzin Palmo’s inspiring life story is told in her biography,
Cave in the Snow: A Woman’s Quest for Enlightenment amzn.to/3q1thOm
Reflections of a Mountain Lake is a collection of teachings from Jetsunma Tenzin Palmo.
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Tenzin Palmo made this more accessible to me.
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Thank you! So beautiful.
Thanks for your interest in Dharma Time videos!
Breaking the expectations of how a lama should act. Wonderful
Breaking the expectations of what one thinks about how a lama should act
A great man...Love your stuff kick on love it 👍
? Wondering what advice she would give to that young woman she was back then (if she could go back in time) or to any young woman in a similar situation now,?
I've pondered on whether the marked dichotomy between the purity and power of Trungpa's teachings and his personal lifestyle (eg the raging alcoholism that killed him at a young age, and the persistent - often successful - sexual coercion of his students) might be a result of having wisdom and genuine enlightenment experiences but an in some way incomplete self-cultivation/ integration of that higher knowledge through all levels of the being.
As most of us are now aware, there have been serious problems with many of the gurus and so-called spiritual masters that came to the West in the late 1960s and 70s, attracting millions of young and perhaps naive followers. The majority of these teachers have left a trail of reported abusive behaviour of one kind or another which has long been covered up by their loyal devotees and organisations, just as the Christian Churches covered up their own clergy's appalling abuses of power, often of a sexual nature. It occurs to me that the common problem might be traditions that involve ignorance/ denial/ avoidance/ suppression of the body in spiritual practice.
I believe it's as essential to include the physical element of our being in our developing consciousness, just as we strive to develop our heart and mind consciousness.
If we persistently ignore that third element of our nature we are very likely to become ungrounded. That whole sphere of our being can remain clouded even while other elements, of heart and mind may be operating with crystal clarity.
An ideal, balanced programme of spiritual self-cultivation, in my view, should include regular observation of mind, heart AND body. In psychological terms this equates to the cognitive, affective and behavioural elements of our psyche. Or in more everyday terms, our thinking (as in brain activity), feeling (as in heart area/ emotional energies) and sensing (as in the physical sense organs and all those usually largely unconscious automatic/ mechanical bodily functions).
The latter are certainly capable of being developed / made more conscious through spiritual practice, so that, rather than either habitually suppressing or inappropriately indulging our bodies' impulses, needs and desires, they can be genuinely mastered.
Thanks for your interest in Dharma Time videos and your very thoughtful observations.
there is a term, 'fallen yogi'...and his successor, yikes.
I was Trungpa, Rinpoche’s student from 1972 until his death. If you didn’t know him personally and have little understanding of Buddhism, your opinion is the same as that of any gossip. If you read his books I might even listen to you.
@@babbarr77 Hi there, first of all I offer my sincere apologies if my comments have caused offence or distress of any kind to you or anyone else here, and I'm also very sorry if they came across as some sort of malicious or lazy-minded gossip. That was not my intent. I based my comments mainly on multiple accounts of former students, of their first hand experiences, which I found to be convincing. That's not to say their experiences are the whole story. There is always another side to be heard, and I thank you for sharing a little of yours.
While having great respect for all genuine spiritual teachers of any tradition I do also try to be clear-eyed about their well-documented mistakes at times, including issues that seem to have been particularly prevalent among teachers coming to the West from very different cultures during the 1960s and 70s, perhaps all or in part due to the combination of extreme cultural differences and the spirit of experimentation and openness amongst Western youth, particularly with regard to sex and drugs, at the time. An absolute minefield for anyone to fully comprehend and skilfully navigate, I have no doubt!
I've recently been reading the memoir of the (currently semi-retired, IIUC?) head of Samye-Ling in Scotland - which I had visited in the 70s, and I was very sorry to have missed Trungpa since he'd recently left for the US - Lama Yeshe Losal Rinpoche's "From a Mountain in Tibet". I found it helpful in painting a broader picture of the times and casting further light with his compassionate discussion on some of those troubling controversies surrounding Trungpa Rinpoche, who was a very dear friend of his. I do recommend it, to anyone who hasn't yet read it.
I acknowledge my knowledge of Buddhism may be lacking and this may have affected my judgement. But I am a serious spiritual practitioner, who draws upon many different traditions in an attempt to understand and practice the essence of truth that I strongly believe lies behind and at the heart of all genuine spiritual traditions, albeit with differences of emphasis and distinctive ways of explaining things and practising, in keeping with the cultures from which they originally sprang.
Over the years I have read three books by Chogyam Trungpa Rinpoche, each of which I recall finding very helpful at the time, for which I am deeply grateful to their author.
Blessings to you and to all sincere practitioners of the Path.
Bottom line is that I knew him and all you know is gossip. Period.@@papercup2517
I'm struck with how youthful Jetsunma looks. Was this recorded recently?
Actually it was in the mid 2000s. I did see her teach in San Francisco a few years ago and I was impressed by her vitality.
@@DharmaTime-is-now How nice of you to post this for us. Are you a Bay Area neighbor now? I live in Oakland. I last saw Jetsunma Tenzin Palmo in India in 2016.
@@YudronWangmo I used to be. Left a couple of years ago. Lived in Oakland (Piedmont and Grand Lake area) for about ten years, then lived in SF itself. Besides more Tenzin Palmo clips in the works, there will be videos of other teachers in the next couple of months. Thanks for your interest in these.
@@DharmaTime-is-now Yes, nearly everyone I know has left.
Yes, Trungpa, Rinpoche was the revolutionary and Akong wanted a traditional little Buddhist church. He gave Trungpa a hard time. Years later, Akong, his nephew, and his driver are murdered in India. Karma?