"It will when I get used to it" Excellent attitude from that young man. Not just mindlessly agreeing but actually processing what he's been told. Bravo.
I remember my early lessons being very mentally tiring. I couldn't see how people could drive like that paying so much attention to everything that's going on. But it's amazing how you adapt and almost don't need to think about things as your brain learns what's important or not.
@@hippopotamus86 I think when the ‘technical’ stuff (power, steering, gears, general car operation) becomes subconscious it opens up your attention to the outside world. You also recognise patterns of hazards.
@@dmac2573definitely. I think a big part of learning to drive is getting your head out of the car, and that comes with practise so you're thinking less about the basic mechanics of operating the vehicle.
@@Slaeowulf I was thinking about this also. I know so many people now that have chosen not to drive because they find it too overwhelming. Certainly easier when you're younger.
I've been driving 9 years now but I still watch these to keep my head fresh. "You didn't check your left mirror." observation reminders I find really help keep me in check even now. So easy to slip into complacancy.
I'm just so here for Ashley's instant switch from jokey advice regarding the gas and corner at 3:49 to INSTANTLY on-it and giving rapid but clear instructions to deal with the Ambulance. His tone of voice remains calm but authoritative throughout and is very clear. The pupil did really well too, instantly switched on and heeding Ashley's advice! Love it, I watched it 3 times haha
I believe it would be phenomenal to see a series like this broadcast on television. TV remains one of the most powerful mediums for educating the general public, and your insights and approach to driving etiquette are invaluable. Your calm and positive attitude while driving sets an excellent example for others to follow. Consider the ripple effect of a drive filled with tension and frustration. Most people start their day in their car. It can lead to a more stressful day at work, negatively impacting your interactions with colleagues, and eventually affecting your home life as well. This stress then radiates to others around you, creating a cyclic effect that amplifies negativity and tension in broader circles. By promoting a more mindful and considerate driving culture, you are not just improving individual lives but contributing to a more harmonious society as a whole. Keep up the fantastic work!
I'm now over 70 years old and at one time have driven HGVs for a living. Even with over 50 years driving experience I find videos like this very useful.
Dealing with ambulances can be difficult because of the reactions of other drivers. I've indicated, pulled over, with a full load of blue lights coming towards me, only to have the car behind try to pass me, straight into the path of the ambulance; I've pulled over and stopped (you don't want to drive in the gutter round here anymore than strictly necessary) only to have a car going the other way stop exactly opposite me, thus blocking the road; and I've had people try to overtake as I'm pulling away after letting the ambulance through. That's not to mention the panic stop mob. If you take the time to think about what you're doing when you meet an ESV, you'll quickly realise how many drivers haven't a single thought impulse jumping across their synapses. I'm glad to see at least some learners are being taught what to do. It should be a significant part of the test, with dynamic questions (How would you deal with a fire engine here?).
I overtook a fire engine on blue lights once, it was the strangest feeling with conflicting thoughts…”Can I do this? Should I do this? What about…?” There was a car fire on the M20 heading towards London and I moved over to allow the fire engine to pass on the A20. The entry slip to the M20 is on a steep hill (look up Wrotham for the location) to which the fire engine struggled, like most heavy vehicles, to get beyond 30mph. We all carefully passed on the motorway as there were no “Do not pass” signage so assumed it was OK and went into lane 3 to pass the vehicle fire. The heat was intense even from three lanes over and the windows closed Back to your post and I agree some dynamic questions _could_ be a thing for the test, assuming the student doesn’t already have high anxiety already and would cause additional stress
When you pull over for an ambulance, do you indicate left (to show you're pulling over), or should you actually indicate right (to show that you're not stopping, but just letting something else through and intend to pull back out)? I would suggest the latter.
At around 3:58 with the oncoming ambulance. Excellent point about moving forward so that the car behind "can fit in with us". I often use the same principle on narrow country lanes when there's an oncoming car, a car behind me and a passing place on the left. It sometimes also means a bit of juggling about forwards to squeeze past the oncoming car so that the car behind can then fit in the short passing place. All the extra "bonus points" mentioned about dealing with emergency vehicles was also excellent. Namely not to panic and just suddenly stop as well as checking left mirror before pulling in. One difference in Canada and USA is the requirement to pull over and stop for emergency vehicles in every situation but not a requirement in the UK to always stop.
I think more people are stopping here in the UK; it's often the best thing to do, but not always. Sometimes, you simply don't get enough time to do anything; others, it is simply not necessary to aid the flow. Something I do think about is people who overtake an ambulance or fire engine on blues, on a dual-carriageway. The less traffic they have in front of them to eventually deal with, the better. You don't want to be part of the problem. I believe in many states it's illegal to pass them.
I drive on narrow roads daily. And it happens quite often that I meet two or more cars coming from the other direction. And I can't tell you how many times I pull into a space to let them through, only to see the lead car from the other way pull into a tiny, tiny space to let me through, with all the cars behind him trailing out, blocking the road. Makes me wonder if that guy was even aware there were other cars behind him. A lot of drivers seem to be completely oblivious to their surroundings. No idea when they have cars behind them or to their side, clueless about the speed limit.
it's a very good point that you should make room for others to pull in as well. the bad thing with the "it's not always best to stop immediately" in interpreted by bad drivers as "as long as I pull over, I shouldn't have to stop at all, or even slow down, or even pull over" by deluded drivers. and I could tell stories of things I've witnessed, up to and including seeing a fire engine smoking its tires trying to get stopped because traffic on the "right direction" side didn't have space to move over and traffic on the oncoming side didn't feel it necessary to make any change of course or speed. and it's a completely normal occurrence for the second car ahead of emergency services to pull over, and the car between them and emergency services thinks it's for them.
@@kenbrown2808 If you pull over and create enough space, you shouldn't have to stop at all. You don't stop by default. You do what you need to do to make room for the emergency vehicle to pass through, and that doesn't always means you have to stop.
@@CristiNeagu all I heard was "but I don't wanna slow down to help emergency services get to the emergency." there are very few occasions where maintaining speed helps emergency services, and a great many where it increases risk for everybody. in fact, despite your highway code only saying, "you should consider aiding their journey if it's not too much trouble" you can find videos by your governemnt advising that the best way to aid their journey is to find a place you can give them room to overtake, and stop, to allow the overtake to be done as quickly and safely as possible.
At about 2:57 re Ashley commenting he tends to stick his thumb up to the right hand window. Yes I noticed this in several other Ashley videos and can almost hear him say "You're alright mate". Ashley has perfected his timing with this. I should consider that thumbs up myself in appropriate situations.
Ima big fan of thumbing back when i get a thumbs up or an appreciative hand wave. Its doesn't take much effort to acknowledge the thanks and it hopefully makes the other driver more considerate in future scenarios..
The other day I slowed a little, to potentially allow a car in the left lane to join my lane, I was shocked but pleased to see the guy to MY right leaving ME a space to move to if needed 🥺 I didn't have to move over in the end, but I gave the guy a thumbs up as he passed me It's nice to see more drivers also figuring out what might be best for flow, instead of the usual 'must get ahead' attitude. I wonder if they also watch your channel? 😅
_"You need to act quickly, but you can't panic with it."_ Perfect. Just having that explicitly pointed out in that way: simply and nice and clearly, will help to remove the tendency to panic that some people, understandably, have in such a situation. You need to act quickly, but you must stay in control of your actions while acting quickly, rather than let panic dictate them. Psychologically, the way Ashley puts it almost gives the driver "permission" to ignore their natural inclination to panic. That'll stick in their mind. I'll probably use it myself when I'm in a car with inexperienced drivers, or drivers lacking confidence. (I'm not a driving instructor, and don't try to teach driving, but I am often with inexperienced drivers and we usually have an ongoing discussion about driving (as well as other things, of course) when I'm with them.)
That's like braking on ice without ABS. You need to react fast and gentle after the same time. If more people had that skill we wouldn't need ABS, but back in the real world most drivers do need it...
1:53, cars stopped in the slip road, for me the alarm bells would have been ringing here. Unusual place to stop and one of them was sticking out into the carriageway with someone walking around the car. [ I would have given then the last car sticking out a wide berth.]
4:01. Stop to give way with looking behind, …. you often get this in the centre of town in the little back streets, you see a line of cars coming the other way so hold back and stop to let them through, But the leading car stops before the pinch point and gestures for you to come through oblivious to the cars behind them blocking the route. You then have to start waving at them to look at the cars behind them.
This is similar to the last car in a line slowing or stopping and flashing like mad for you to turn in front of them. There's a ruddy great gap behind you mate!
Had that a couple of days ago along a lane. Stopped in a passing place to allow flow and the third driver opposite reciprocated in kind…except they had vehicles behind them and I had none One of the few times flashing the lights “was” appropriate and not confusing 😉
@@PedroConejo1939 Yup, I always check behind me before stopping to let someone out, to see if there is any real point. That said sometimes I will stop even if I am the last car, in the event that the gap in opposing traffic might be gone/too close by the time I pass the jct.
More Kudos to the White Van Man Interesting to note, caught at ~3:22, left side, look between the trees, the blue car essentially pulls out on him, but he made it a complete non-event as he's seemingly well aware of everything going on around him, and changes lanes back to the right hand side, before overtaking the blue car. It isn't the biggest of mistakes by the blue car, you might argue it was more of a cheeky 'push', but it would have required the van to slow down (brake) as he was clearly catching him and would have occupied that space, seen by how quickly he is able to overtake after and move back to the left lane. It was quick but i'm sure your pupil these days would be more likely to have caught it (3:29) "What was he doing then", a quick little moment, but that looking ahead will come. Good attitude of the student.
There are a lot of emergency vehicle POV videos on UA-cam. I think that it can be good to watch some of them to learn how to help emergency vehicles to pass. Perhaps someone could make a video collecting some good and some bad decisions people have made (not to blame those who made bad decisions; they probably panicked a bit).
one of the biggest complaints I'm aware of is people who move a little bit and maintain speed. stopping in the middle of the lane makes things hard. not stopping, or at least slowing significantly, makes things dangerous.
Exactly, however it depends very much on the circumstances. If you can stop while not causing an obstruction then stop, slowly rolling while pulled over closes the gap that the emergency vehicle has available to get around you before an upcoming obstacle and can make it unclear what your intention is. The problem is far too many drivers stop in entirely inappropriate spots causing more issues. Sometimes it is better to keep rolling until you can get completely out of the way. The key is being aware of your surroundings and acting accordingly, there is no one blanket response that will cover all circumstances.
Good advice on flow especially with blue lights. The panic from some people can hinder flow for everyone especially when drivere just stop (our roads aren’t bigger like America so we cannot always do that), or worse still attempt an overtake as you move left for one approaching from behind cutting up the emergency vehicle Pay attention out there and use all of your surroundings to aid and assist
I've noticed your videos from the 1st, 5th and 7th have been taken down🤔 Edit 8/8 I see they're back 🤔 Edit ×2 I see your latest one from 7/8 has disappeared again🤔
A lot of people have a brain fart when an emergency vehicle is approaching, panic and stop without thinking, brilliant seeing it being shown how to deal with it.
Years ago go I passed my test due to a situation more difficult than this. It was a short test and the examiner said , I’ve seen enough, you know what you’re doing. Was a surprise. He hasn’t seen it coming and if I stayed were I was in traffic it would have been an issue so pulled into a bus stop to his surprise, and the ambulance shot past and entered the roundabout further up and was away. Was pleased
Ashley's best demonstration of his ability, in his flowing words, to get the best out of his pupil to get the best understanding of the importance of best flow of traffic by best interaction of the situation around by the best driving.
Very interesting, Ashley, thank you. Quick question: In a previous video you explained not to go in a bus *lane* to let an emergency vehicle through, but to stay put and instead to let the emergency vehicle use the bus lane. Legally, how does a bus lane differ from a bus stop in this situation? What you advised your pupil in this new video makes perfect sense to me, but is there any official guidance on using bus stops to let emergency vehicles past. I've searched but can't find the answer. Many thanks for the great videos!
Good question! My guess is that bus lanes have cameras whereas bus stops do not!😀 It is illegal, I suppose, to park in a bus stop but not to drive in a bus stop. It is illegal to drive in a bus lane. Maybe like the whole, you can park on the path but not drive on the path, thing. Not everything in traffic law is tightly define, I've found and you can keep going down a rabbit-hole to tie things down.
@@peterthompson9854 clarification: it's illegal to STOP in a bus stop (one that has the thick yellow lines), even if you are not parking. For example you can't legally even use the stop to drop a passenger, or to pick up your friend who you see waiting for the bus.
If you could arrange it Ashley, it would be interesting to see you ride with the driver in an ambulance, and get the driver's take on how other cars are reacting to the blue lights
There are already channels doing this "Ward Advanced driving" (old but good) and "Chris Martin EMS" (not the Chef or the singer). They do give a really keen insight into reactions to blue light responses and watching can effect better decisions from drivers/riders in these situations. I recommend a watch and if Ashley could do this with his following, that'd be a plus too.
Emergency vehicles - totally agree that it’s rarely the right thing to just stop, and in this case exactly the right thing to keep rolling. It might be helpful though to clarify (perhaps a special episode?) that when an emergency vehicle is committed to an overtake, they should almost always slow or stop. Every metre the driver keeps rolling reduces the clearance to any oncoming vehicles or obstacles, and makes an easy overtake unnecessary difficult. The emergency driver should only attempt an overtake when it’s safe, but this would be better for overall flow for the emergency vehicle
I definitely think this would be a worthwhile episode. There are proponents on both sides of the roll vs stop argument, that don't quite get that it depends heavily on the circumstances and both options are correct depending.
0:41 sadly the black focus had plenty of time to join you from behind, as the road was clear and it was originally behind you. I have to wonder did you have your top box on 😅
One of my biggest annoyances! The Highway Code says that merge in turn is recommended and that you SHOULD NOT overtake where you may come into conflict with other road users, for example where another road user is indicating right. Also remember though that indicating does not give you priority
One of my gripes with others lack of forward thinking is at 3:40 Aside from the pavement parking…they have parked on the pavement by a disabled bay with a dropped kerb specifically to aid those in a wheelchair 😡 That doesn’t aid flow at all for those requiring use of that bay
Yes: because even in a normal clearway you are allowed to stop if caused by other stationary traffic. The rules are the same. But... I would advise against keeping a passenger out while stopped there, because an officious cop could argue that you stopped to drop a passenger, which is illegal in a clearway.
Yes you’re right, rule 243 of the Highway Code says :- DO NOT stop or park at or near a bus or tram stop or taxi rank except when forced to do so by stationary traffic, rule 238 of the Highway Code talks about yellow zigzag lines and it says this about them :- You MUST NOT wait or park, or stop to set down and pick up passengers, on school entrance markings when upright signs indicate a prohibition of stopping, so, you can’t park on yellow zigzag lines and you can’t pick up or drop off passengers on them but you’re allowed to wait on them in a stationary queue of traffic, it’s the same with both bus stops and yellow zigzag lines, you can’t park on them and you can’t pick up or drop off passengers on them but you can stop on them if you’re forced to do so by stationary traffic, if I can though I’ll try not to stop on a bus stop or on yellow zigzag lines for the safety of the people waiting for the bus and for the safety of the school kids and of the school staff, I have a question about the single solid white line which is found in some tunnels..it’s not mentioned anywhere in the Highway Code so obviously there are no rules and no laws attached to them so am I right in saying that you are allowed to cross it if you need to but it’s there as a lane divider saying you shouldn’t cross the line, is that correct?
I found not many know what to do around emergency vehicles for best flow. I used to commute up a 60mph/National road that was slowed to 50mph. The amount of times people would slow to let something past but then you just become in this line of traffic doing about 20-30mph as they try to over take everyone that is slowing. If everyone just kept doing 50mph would be so much quicker then at straight/wider bits just ease off as they pass you then the average speed stays higher.
at that point, it's not about YOUR progress. it's about letting the emergency vehicle get through. yes, if you're on a single track road, keep your speed up until you can get over and let them by. but if you can make room for them to overtake, then make room and stop to allow them to get by, quicker and with less risk.
@@kenbrown2808 Yes it's about their progress, but to many people just stop or slow down to allow them to get passed at inappropriate points. In the example above if everyone just did 50mph, the ambulance would have been doing 50mph. As it was I was in the line of traffic behind the ambulance that was doing 20-30mph. That is neither quicker or less risk for the ambulance.
Just going through this now. Wow at around 0:40 that's a pretty loud tick tock of the indicators. My 2009 Ford Focus has a much quieter tick tock but still audible at motorway speeds.
This might be the benefit of hindsight, but with only one car behind I would've carried on to the roundabout, letting the Focus merge in after the Clio. Unless the speed difference allowed for only margin deceleration, and it helps the Focus driver was switched on
I love this kinda teaching I did my upmost to use this style on my part 3 but was told by examiner it was over instruction ???? With a score of 25 ???go figure
Hi Ashley, the Focus driver had ample opportunity to make the lane change with your learner, the lack of forward-thinking by the Focus driver resulted in the need for the last-minute lane change. essentially really poor driving by the Focus driver.
@@ashley_neal But that didn't help. Fact is that the Focus driver was fine where he was. He wasn't blocking anything. He only had to wait for two cars to pass. And as it turned out, he didn't even need to wait for that long as the van started moving. Your car, on the other hand, did block traffic by letting that Focus out. So you caused a much bigger commotion by trying to fix a tiny non-issue. Not to mention that he was in that situation because, instead of moving behind you, he chose to cut in front of you by overtaking on the left. It's always best to just follow the rules of the road.
@kenbrown2808 you didn't watch properly. There was a white van stalled that the Focus driver was going to be stuck behind. The Focus driver was turning left and had no wish to get in front.
The amount of times I've seen people do that where they just stop when half of the time they don't even need to because the ambulance is on the other side of the road that's not going to interact with our side of the road or worse they stop causing a block on the road
Okay, so if there had been a cyclist when Ashley’s pupil saw the ambulance coming and pulled into the bus stop, what should it do? Safest would be to stop and hop off the bike and onto the curb, minimising risk from a car pulling left without looking…
Proper thing to do is just slow down and see what the cyclist does. Either he stops and you can pull in, or he chooses to continue, so let him go and then pull in. He controls the situation. If he sort of loiters at your side and doesn't go in the bus stop, using your horn may be necessary, since he's obviously unaware that you are to his side and blocking the road for the ambulance.
I've seen enough of Ashley's analyses to know the correct thing for the cyclist to do is to get in front of the ambulance and demand that cyclists have priority. according to the cyclists he analyzes.
0:45 Ok, but here's my problem. Was that REALLY the best thing for flow? We have a driver overtaking on the left, who then wants to move right. You instruct your learner to let him out, coming to a stop and then almost stalling, holding back traffic behind. And the driver you let out then goes on and takes the first exit! So you slowed down yourself and the car behind so that a driver who is in too much of a rush can get in front of a van that started moving anyways. You helped out one guy doing shady things while holding back two cars that were in the right lane to begin with. Is that really best flow? Now, fair enough, that van had its hazards on, but that driver you let out could have seen them from a mile away. He had a choice: move in behind you or overtake you on the left and then cut in front of you. Only one of those sounds like a sensible solution, and it's not the one he chose. In this situation I would have 100% continued. Yes, I would have kept my eye on the black car, expecting him to cut me off, but I would have continued on my way. And by the looks of it, so would have the car behind you. And then the van would have moved, allowing the black car to continue, while my lane would have kept moving. Which is just further proof that you should always default to the rules of the road and only allow people in front of you if it's extreme circumstances. Like, if that black car was stuck behind the van for a while and there was a massive column behind me, I would have let him out. But him waiting there for two cars is not going to ruin his day. All in all: not the best example. Your actions actually prevented the best flow of traffic. 3:50 I like that his immediate first instinct was to dive into the bus stop. He's got the right instincts, he's resourceful, and like you said, he needs to pay a bit more attention to those around him, but that will come with experience.
0:32 Most important learning point not mentioned, match the speed of the lane you want to merge into, thats best for flow. In the scenario anywas even better for flow was to merge in the big gap behind the line of cars. 0:51 is an example why the way taught here is not best for flow.
Yeah, you should deviate from the rules of the road only if absolutely necessary. This is why I think the UK needs to have the same rule found elsewhere in Europe: giving way when you have priority is punishable with 1 point on your licence. Giving way like that in this case blocked traffic and was ultimately needless. Giving way at junctions often leads to drivers failing to check both ways properly and causing a crash. Giving way like this is rarely a good idea, and I think Ashley proved exactly that.
Agreed, had a few recently pick up the mobile as soon as traffic stops thinking it is OK. Put the phone away people until you are safely parked. Stationary in a queue *is not parked* and just as dangerous as using a mobile in motion. Listen to what Ashley says at 5:03 as that is what happens when using your phone while stationary and you move off…complete lack of observation
I think you were unfair to criticise at 0:51, you made the decision to let out the black Ford causing a sudden alteration the actions of your student (instigating the poor operation of the vehicle) all before the black ford even indicated their intention to change lane. The ford could have been braking take the left turning, after all they'd just shot up your inside with the lane clear behind you. Did you brake for your student? I do not believe it was the ford's intention to pull in front, I think the ford was mislead by the sign you'd just passed saying all three lane when straight on, then the road markings said the left was left turn only. The ford should have been very aware of your presence having just passed you. If you'd have continued past the ford it would have been both safer and better for flow. Now the situation with the silver before is when you wanted the car in the faster moving lane to slow that lane to let a slower moving car in rather than the slower moving car to match the faster lanes speed and move over with no one slowing. The latter is better flow, but also more difficult to manage, I imagine, with a student who is not that confident.. It was also a very different scenario with silver where an indication was made and there was plenty of time and space for either party to adjust. While I'm giving you a hard time..., I'd have given more room to the grey VW at 1:55 with the activity around it and he did check the left mirror for the ambulance, although you both had a high workload at that point so fine you didn't see (and I have a better view of his eye movements than you), but no shoulder check before pulling out again but I'd accept that a right mirror check, which he did twice was probably enough here. You are a fantastic instructor who I wish I'd had teaching me all those years ago!😄
@@CristiNeagu I was clarifying that the left turn I was referring to in my comment was the turn before the roundabout and not the first exit off the roundabout.
Use common sense, difference in London is, that if you enter a bus lane for any reason, it doesn’t matter, if it’s on the cameras it will be a fine. So that’s why it’s different in London.
Following the rules that specifically I'd counter point that they didn't stop in a bus stop. Using common sense though, that was the best option, allowed everyone to flow properly and they did not cause any obstruction stopping the bus stop being used. Too many people use the rules as a shield when they not helping a situation rather than applying common sense. I'm not a driving instructor, a professional driver, or even claim to be better than anyone else but if I was in that situation I'm using that bus stop to help the ambulance progess
There are a lot of very silly rules in the Highway Code. And some of them seem designed to punish drivers. The problem here are the authorities and the courts. Normally, if you pull into a bus stop to let an ambulance through, any sensible human being would cancel that ticket on the spot. It's clear that you weren't parking and you weren't blocking public transport. But nope. They'll milk you for every penny. They don't care.
@@aaroo9554 when I first heard that’s a UK law, I thought it was a joke. How can you have an empty lane to the left and block an emergency vehicle. Has it ever been enforced anywhere in the UK??
5:07 I'd like to know how the heck a cyclist would have managed to get on the inside of the driver. Go from main road turn left, drive about 5 seconds and pull into bus stop.
"It will when I get used to it"
Excellent attitude from that young man. Not just mindlessly agreeing but actually processing what he's been told. Bravo.
I remember my early lessons being very mentally tiring. I couldn't see how people could drive like that paying so much attention to everything that's going on. But it's amazing how you adapt and almost don't need to think about things as your brain learns what's important or not.
@@hippopotamus86 I think when the ‘technical’ stuff (power, steering, gears, general car operation) becomes subconscious it opens up your attention to the outside world. You also recognise patterns of hazards.
@@dmac2573definitely. I think a big part of learning to drive is getting your head out of the car, and that comes with practise so you're thinking less about the basic mechanics of operating the vehicle.
Try learning a new thing as an adult. I'm 32 and learning to paraglide and after every lesson my brain is overloaded.
@@Slaeowulf I was thinking about this also. I know so many people now that have chosen not to drive because they find it too overwhelming. Certainly easier when you're younger.
I remember not only finding it mentally tiring but also physically tiring. Took a while to get used to it
I've been driving 9 years now but I still watch these to keep my head fresh. "You didn't check your left mirror." observation reminders I find really help keep me in check even now. So easy to slip into complacancy.
I passed in the late 1980s, and I'm here to learn. Never to late to get better.
20 years next year, drive for a living and still pick up tips from these videos. It never hurts to stay educated.
Same, 24 years driving, still good to get a refresher and find things we can improve on.
I'm just so here for Ashley's instant switch from jokey advice regarding the gas and corner at 3:49 to INSTANTLY on-it and giving rapid but clear instructions to deal with the Ambulance. His tone of voice remains calm but authoritative throughout and is very clear. The pupil did really well too, instantly switched on and heeding Ashley's advice! Love it, I watched it 3 times haha
I believe it would be phenomenal to see a series like this broadcast on television. TV remains one of the most powerful mediums for educating the general public, and your insights and approach to driving etiquette are invaluable. Your calm and positive attitude while driving sets an excellent example for others to follow.
Consider the ripple effect of a drive filled with tension and frustration. Most people start their day in their car. It can lead to a more stressful day at work, negatively impacting your interactions with colleagues, and eventually affecting your home life as well. This stress then radiates to others around you, creating a cyclic effect that amplifies negativity and tension in broader circles. By promoting a more mindful and considerate driving culture, you are not just improving individual lives but contributing to a more harmonious society as a whole. Keep up the fantastic work!
I'm now over 70 years old and at one time have driven HGVs for a living. Even with over 50 years driving experience I find videos like this very useful.
Dealing with ambulances can be difficult because of the reactions of other drivers. I've indicated, pulled over, with a full load of blue lights coming towards me, only to have the car behind try to pass me, straight into the path of the ambulance; I've pulled over and stopped (you don't want to drive in the gutter round here anymore than strictly necessary) only to have a car going the other way stop exactly opposite me, thus blocking the road; and I've had people try to overtake as I'm pulling away after letting the ambulance through. That's not to mention the panic stop mob. If you take the time to think about what you're doing when you meet an ESV, you'll quickly realise how many drivers haven't a single thought impulse jumping across their synapses.
I'm glad to see at least some learners are being taught what to do. It should be a significant part of the test, with dynamic questions (How would you deal with a fire engine here?).
Had that one a couple of times, stopped opposite a long gap to let police through only for someone to stop next to me and block their way.
and then there's the "they're professionals, it's their job to get around me" crowd who won't do anything to help them.
I overtook a fire engine on blue lights once, it was the strangest feeling with conflicting thoughts…”Can I do this? Should I do this? What about…?”
There was a car fire on the M20 heading towards London and I moved over to allow the fire engine to pass on the A20. The entry slip to the M20 is on a steep hill (look up Wrotham for the location) to which the fire engine struggled, like most heavy vehicles, to get beyond 30mph. We all carefully passed on the motorway as there were no “Do not pass” signage so assumed it was OK and went into lane 3 to pass the vehicle fire. The heat was intense even from three lanes over and the windows closed
Back to your post and I agree some dynamic questions _could_ be a thing for the test, assuming the student doesn’t already have high anxiety already and would cause additional stress
@@smilerbob I have seen engines turn off the lights on long upgrades they couldn't hold speed on , to allow cars to overtake.
When you pull over for an ambulance, do you indicate left (to show you're pulling over), or should you actually indicate right (to show that you're not stopping, but just letting something else through and intend to pull back out)? I would suggest the latter.
At around 3:58 with the oncoming ambulance. Excellent point about moving forward so that the car behind "can fit in with us". I often use the same principle on narrow country lanes when there's an oncoming car, a car behind me and a passing place on the left. It sometimes also means a bit of juggling about forwards to squeeze past the oncoming car so that the car behind can then fit in the short passing place.
All the extra "bonus points" mentioned about dealing with emergency vehicles was also excellent. Namely not to panic and just suddenly stop as well as checking left mirror before pulling in. One difference in Canada and USA is the requirement to pull over and stop for emergency vehicles in every situation but not a requirement in the UK to always stop.
I think more people are stopping here in the UK; it's often the best thing to do, but not always. Sometimes, you simply don't get enough time to do anything; others, it is simply not necessary to aid the flow. Something I do think about is people who overtake an ambulance or fire engine on blues, on a dual-carriageway. The less traffic they have in front of them to eventually deal with, the better. You don't want to be part of the problem. I believe in many states it's illegal to pass them.
I drive on narrow roads daily. And it happens quite often that I meet two or more cars coming from the other direction. And I can't tell you how many times I pull into a space to let them through, only to see the lead car from the other way pull into a tiny, tiny space to let me through, with all the cars behind him trailing out, blocking the road. Makes me wonder if that guy was even aware there were other cars behind him. A lot of drivers seem to be completely oblivious to their surroundings. No idea when they have cars behind them or to their side, clueless about the speed limit.
it's a very good point that you should make room for others to pull in as well. the bad thing with the "it's not always best to stop immediately" in interpreted by bad drivers as "as long as I pull over, I shouldn't have to stop at all, or even slow down, or even pull over" by deluded drivers. and I could tell stories of things I've witnessed, up to and including seeing a fire engine smoking its tires trying to get stopped because traffic on the "right direction" side didn't have space to move over and traffic on the oncoming side didn't feel it necessary to make any change of course or speed.
and it's a completely normal occurrence for the second car ahead of emergency services to pull over, and the car between them and emergency services thinks it's for them.
@@kenbrown2808 If you pull over and create enough space, you shouldn't have to stop at all. You don't stop by default. You do what you need to do to make room for the emergency vehicle to pass through, and that doesn't always means you have to stop.
@@CristiNeagu all I heard was "but I don't wanna slow down to help emergency services get to the emergency." there are very few occasions where maintaining speed helps emergency services, and a great many where it increases risk for everybody. in fact, despite your highway code only saying, "you should consider aiding their journey if it's not too much trouble" you can find videos by your governemnt advising that the best way to aid their journey is to find a place you can give them room to overtake, and stop, to allow the overtake to be done as quickly and safely as possible.
At about 2:57 re Ashley commenting he tends to stick his thumb up to the right hand window. Yes I noticed this in several other Ashley videos and can almost hear him say "You're alright mate". Ashley has perfected his timing with this. I should consider that thumbs up myself in appropriate situations.
Ima big fan of thumbing back when i get a thumbs up or an appreciative hand wave. Its doesn't take much effort to acknowledge the thanks and it hopefully makes the other driver more considerate in future scenarios..
The other day I slowed a little, to potentially allow a car in the left lane to join my lane, I was shocked but pleased to see the guy to MY right leaving ME a space to move to if needed 🥺
I didn't have to move over in the end, but I gave the guy a thumbs up as he passed me
It's nice to see more drivers also figuring out what might be best for flow, instead of the usual 'must get ahead' attitude.
I wonder if they also watch your channel? 😅
_"You need to act quickly, but you can't panic with it."_
Perfect.
Just having that explicitly pointed out in that way: simply and nice and clearly, will help to remove the tendency to panic that some people, understandably, have in such a situation. You need to act quickly, but you must stay in control of your actions while acting quickly, rather than let panic dictate them.
Psychologically, the way Ashley puts it almost gives the driver "permission" to ignore their natural inclination to panic. That'll stick in their mind.
I'll probably use it myself when I'm in a car with inexperienced drivers, or drivers lacking confidence. (I'm not a driving instructor, and don't try to teach driving, but I am often with inexperienced drivers and we usually have an ongoing discussion about driving (as well as other things, of course) when I'm with them.)
That's like braking on ice without ABS. You need to react fast and gentle after the same time. If more people had that skill we wouldn't need ABS, but back in the real world most drivers do need it...
1:53, cars stopped in the slip road, for me the alarm bells would have been ringing here.
Unusual place to stop and one of them was sticking out into the carriageway with someone walking around the car.
[ I would have given then the last car sticking out a wide berth.]
Psychic Ashley back at it again :D
This is a cracking video. Anyone else wish Ashley was their driving instructor? 😂
No, I would not like to be spoken to in the way Ashely speaks to some of his pupils.
You seem like such a great teacher on lessons
4:01. Stop to give way with looking behind, …. you often get this in the centre of town in the little back streets, you see a line of cars coming the other way so hold back and stop to let them through,
But the leading car stops before the pinch point and gestures for you to come through oblivious to the cars behind them blocking the route.
You then have to start waving at them to look at the cars behind them.
This is similar to the last car in a line slowing or stopping and flashing like mad for you to turn in front of them. There's a ruddy great gap behind you mate!
Had that a couple of days ago along a lane. Stopped in a passing place to allow flow and the third driver opposite reciprocated in kind…except they had vehicles behind them and I had none
One of the few times flashing the lights “was” appropriate and not confusing 😉
@@PedroConejo1939 Yup, I always check behind me before stopping to let someone out, to see if there is any real point. That said sometimes I will stop even if I am the last car, in the event that the gap in opposing traffic might be gone/too close by the time I pass the jct.
More Kudos to the White Van Man
Interesting to note, caught at ~3:22, left side, look between the trees, the blue car essentially pulls out on him, but he made it a complete non-event as he's seemingly well aware of everything going on around him, and changes lanes back to the right hand side, before overtaking the blue car.
It isn't the biggest of mistakes by the blue car, you might argue it was more of a cheeky 'push', but it would have required the van to slow down (brake) as he was clearly catching him and would have occupied that space, seen by how quickly he is able to overtake after and move back to the left lane.
It was quick but i'm sure your pupil these days would be more likely to have caught it (3:29) "What was he doing then", a quick little moment, but that looking ahead will come.
Good attitude of the student.
There are a lot of emergency vehicle POV videos on UA-cam. I think that it can be good to watch some of them to learn how to help emergency vehicles to pass. Perhaps someone could make a video collecting some good and some bad decisions people have made (not to blame those who made bad decisions; they probably panicked a bit).
one of the biggest complaints I'm aware of is people who move a little bit and maintain speed. stopping in the middle of the lane makes things hard. not stopping, or at least slowing significantly, makes things dangerous.
Exactly, however it depends very much on the circumstances. If you can stop while not causing an obstruction then stop, slowly rolling while pulled over closes the gap that the emergency vehicle has available to get around you before an upcoming obstacle and can make it unclear what your intention is. The problem is far too many drivers stop in entirely inappropriate spots causing more issues. Sometimes it is better to keep rolling until you can get completely out of the way. The key is being aware of your surroundings and acting accordingly, there is no one blanket response that will cover all circumstances.
Good advice on flow especially with blue lights. The panic from some people can hinder flow for everyone especially when drivere just stop (our roads aren’t bigger like America so we cannot always do that), or worse still attempt an overtake as you move left for one approaching from behind cutting up the emergency vehicle
Pay attention out there and use all of your surroundings to aid and assist
And be predictable! They must have to do a lot of second guessing of other people's intentions, let's not make it harder for them
I've noticed your videos from the 1st, 5th and 7th have been taken down🤔
Edit 8/8 I see they're back 🤔
Edit ×2 I see your latest one from 7/8 has disappeared again🤔
A lot of people have a brain fart when an emergency vehicle is approaching, panic and stop without thinking, brilliant seeing it being shown how to deal with it.
Years ago go I passed my test due to a situation more difficult than this. It was a short test and the examiner said , I’ve seen enough, you know what you’re doing. Was a surprise. He hasn’t seen it coming and if I stayed were I was in traffic it would have been an issue so pulled into a bus stop to his surprise, and the ambulance shot past and entered the roundabout further up and was away. Was pleased
Ashley's best demonstration of his ability, in his flowing words, to get the best out of his pupil to get the best understanding of the importance of best flow of traffic by best interaction of the situation around by the best driving.
That's a lot crammed into less than 6 minutes. Wow.
Great video!
Have you heard of editing?😅
@@composimmonite3918I fail to see how that's relevant
Very interesting, Ashley, thank you. Quick question: In a previous video you explained not to go in a bus *lane* to let an emergency vehicle through, but to stay put and instead to let the emergency vehicle use the bus lane. Legally, how does a bus lane differ from a bus stop in this situation? What you advised your pupil in this new video makes perfect sense to me, but is there any official guidance on using bus stops to let emergency vehicles past. I've searched but can't find the answer. Many thanks for the great videos!
Good question! My guess is that bus lanes have cameras whereas bus stops do not!😀 It is illegal, I suppose, to park in a bus stop but not to drive in a bus stop. It is illegal to drive in a bus lane. Maybe like the whole, you can park on the path but not drive on the path, thing. Not everything in traffic law is tightly define, I've found and you can keep going down a rabbit-hole to tie things down.
@@peterthompson9854 clarification: it's illegal to STOP in a bus stop (one that has the thick yellow lines), even if you are not parking. For example you can't legally even use the stop to drop a passenger, or to pick up your friend who you see waiting for the bus.
great video!
If you could arrange it Ashley, it would be interesting to see you ride with the driver in an ambulance, and get the driver's take on how other cars are reacting to the blue lights
There are already channels doing this "Ward Advanced driving" (old but good) and "Chris Martin EMS" (not the Chef or the singer). They do give a really keen insight into reactions to blue light responses and watching can effect better decisions from drivers/riders in these situations. I recommend a watch and if Ashley could do this with his following, that'd be a plus too.
Emergency vehicles - totally agree that it’s rarely the right thing to just stop, and in this case exactly the right thing to keep rolling. It might be helpful though to clarify (perhaps a special episode?) that when an emergency vehicle is committed to an overtake, they should almost always slow or stop. Every metre the driver keeps rolling reduces the clearance to any oncoming vehicles or obstacles, and makes an easy overtake unnecessary difficult. The emergency driver should only attempt an overtake when it’s safe, but this would be better for overall flow for the emergency vehicle
I definitely think this would be a worthwhile episode. There are proponents on both sides of the roll vs stop argument, that don't quite get that it depends heavily on the circumstances and both options are correct depending.
0:41 sadly the black focus had plenty of time to join you from behind, as the road was clear and it was originally behind you. I have to wonder did you have your top box on 😅
looking cool!
One of my biggest annoyances! The Highway Code says that merge in turn is recommended and that you SHOULD NOT overtake where you may come into conflict with other road users, for example where another road user is indicating right. Also remember though that indicating does not give you priority
One of my gripes with others lack of forward thinking is at 3:40
Aside from the pavement parking…they have parked on the pavement by a disabled bay with a dropped kerb specifically to aid those in a wheelchair 😡
That doesn’t aid flow at all for those requiring use of that bay
Is it ok to wait on a no stopping bus stop clearway with a wide yellow line along the kerb of the bus stop while in a stationary queue of traffic?
Yes: because even in a normal clearway you are allowed to stop if caused by other stationary traffic. The rules are the same.
But... I would advise against keeping a passenger out while stopped there, because an officious cop could argue that you stopped to drop a passenger, which is illegal in a clearway.
Yes you’re right, rule 243 of the Highway Code says :- DO NOT stop or park at or near a bus or tram stop or taxi rank except when forced to do so by stationary traffic, rule 238 of the Highway Code talks about yellow zigzag lines and it says this about them :- You MUST NOT wait or park, or stop to set down and pick up passengers, on school entrance markings when upright signs indicate a prohibition of stopping, so, you can’t park on yellow zigzag lines and you can’t pick up or drop off passengers on them but you’re allowed to wait on them in a stationary queue of traffic, it’s the same with both bus stops and yellow zigzag lines, you can’t park on them and you can’t pick up or drop off passengers on them but you can stop on them if you’re forced to do so by stationary traffic, if I can though I’ll try not to stop on a bus stop or on yellow zigzag lines for the safety of the people waiting for the bus and for the safety of the school kids and of the school staff, I have a question about the single solid white line which is found in some tunnels..it’s not mentioned anywhere in the Highway Code so obviously there are no rules and no laws attached to them so am I right in saying that you are allowed to cross it if you need to but it’s there as a lane divider saying you shouldn’t cross the line, is that correct?
I found not many know what to do around emergency vehicles for best flow. I used to commute up a 60mph/National road that was slowed to 50mph. The amount of times people would slow to let something past but then you just become in this line of traffic doing about 20-30mph as they try to over take everyone that is slowing. If everyone just kept doing 50mph would be so much quicker then at straight/wider bits just ease off as they pass you then the average speed stays higher.
at that point, it's not about YOUR progress. it's about letting the emergency vehicle get through. yes, if you're on a single track road, keep your speed up until you can get over and let them by. but if you can make room for them to overtake, then make room and stop to allow them to get by, quicker and with less risk.
@@kenbrown2808 Yes it's about their progress, but to many people just stop or slow down to allow them to get passed at inappropriate points.
In the example above if everyone just did 50mph, the ambulance would have been doing 50mph. As it was I was in the line of traffic behind the ambulance that was doing 20-30mph. That is neither quicker or less risk for the ambulance.
@@joewatts6016 well, yes, don't slow down without making room for the overtake.
Just going through this now. Wow at around 0:40 that's a pretty loud tick tock of the indicators. My 2009 Ford Focus has a much quieter tick tock but still audible at motorway speeds.
It’s artificially loud as the microphone in the camera’s are picking up the sound more.
@@damedusa5107 I did wonder about that actually.
This might be the benefit of hindsight, but with only one car behind I would've carried on to the roundabout, letting the Focus merge in after the Clio. Unless the speed difference allowed for only margin deceleration, and it helps the Focus driver was switched on
I love this kinda teaching I did my upmost to use this style on my part 3 but was told by examiner it was over instruction ???? With a score of 25 ???go figure
Brilliant video there Ash, made 10 times better to describe flow with the ambulance
I like to keep my driver side window down so I can, e.g., give the driver behind a friendly wave if they hold back like that.
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Great little video. So many little examples of things that good drivers deal with as a matter of routine and poor drivers just don’t get it. 👍
Hi Ashley, the Focus driver had ample opportunity to make the lane change with your learner, the lack of forward-thinking by the Focus driver resulted in the need for the last-minute lane change. essentially really poor driving by the Focus driver.
Did you not see the white van stalled with hazards on?
Therefore, try to correct their mistake by helping
@@ashley_neal But that didn't help. Fact is that the Focus driver was fine where he was. He wasn't blocking anything. He only had to wait for two cars to pass. And as it turned out, he didn't even need to wait for that long as the van started moving. Your car, on the other hand, did block traffic by letting that Focus out. So you caused a much bigger commotion by trying to fix a tiny non-issue. Not to mention that he was in that situation because, instead of moving behind you, he chose to cut in front of you by overtaking on the left. It's always best to just follow the rules of the road.
the focus driver was focused on being in front of the learner.
@kenbrown2808 you didn't watch properly. There was a white van stalled that the Focus driver was going to be stuck behind. The Focus driver was turning left and had no wish to get in front.
Most drivers think of best flow for themselves, only a few think of best flow for everyone.
The amount of times I've seen people do that where they just stop when half of the time they don't even need to because the ambulance is on the other side of the road that's not going to interact with our side of the road
or worse they stop causing a block on the road
I stalled twice today ... flat spot blamed.. cough
Okay, so if there had been a cyclist when Ashley’s pupil saw the ambulance coming and pulled into the bus stop, what should it do? Safest would be to stop and hop off the bike and onto the curb, minimising risk from a car pulling left without looking…
Proper thing to do is just slow down and see what the cyclist does. Either he stops and you can pull in, or he chooses to continue, so let him go and then pull in. He controls the situation. If he sort of loiters at your side and doesn't go in the bus stop, using your horn may be necessary, since he's obviously unaware that you are to his side and blocking the road for the ambulance.
I've seen enough of Ashley's analyses to know the correct thing for the cyclist to do is to get in front of the ambulance and demand that cyclists have priority. according to the cyclists he analyzes.
Looks like the white VW driver was on her phone. She was certainly looking down at something and hesitated when the lights turned green.
0:45 Ok, but here's my problem. Was that REALLY the best thing for flow? We have a driver overtaking on the left, who then wants to move right. You instruct your learner to let him out, coming to a stop and then almost stalling, holding back traffic behind. And the driver you let out then goes on and takes the first exit! So you slowed down yourself and the car behind so that a driver who is in too much of a rush can get in front of a van that started moving anyways. You helped out one guy doing shady things while holding back two cars that were in the right lane to begin with. Is that really best flow?
Now, fair enough, that van had its hazards on, but that driver you let out could have seen them from a mile away. He had a choice: move in behind you or overtake you on the left and then cut in front of you. Only one of those sounds like a sensible solution, and it's not the one he chose.
In this situation I would have 100% continued. Yes, I would have kept my eye on the black car, expecting him to cut me off, but I would have continued on my way. And by the looks of it, so would have the car behind you. And then the van would have moved, allowing the black car to continue, while my lane would have kept moving. Which is just further proof that you should always default to the rules of the road and only allow people in front of you if it's extreme circumstances. Like, if that black car was stuck behind the van for a while and there was a massive column behind me, I would have let him out. But him waiting there for two cars is not going to ruin his day.
All in all: not the best example. Your actions actually prevented the best flow of traffic.
3:50 I like that his immediate first instinct was to dive into the bus stop. He's got the right instincts, he's resourceful, and like you said, he needs to pay a bit more attention to those around him, but that will come with experience.
0:32 Most important learning point not mentioned, match the speed of the lane you want to merge into, thats best for flow. In the scenario anywas even better for flow was to merge in the big gap behind the line of cars. 0:51 is an example why the way taught here is not best for flow.
Yeah, you should deviate from the rules of the road only if absolutely necessary. This is why I think the UK needs to have the same rule found elsewhere in Europe: giving way when you have priority is punishable with 1 point on your licence. Giving way like that in this case blocked traffic and was ultimately needless. Giving way at junctions often leads to drivers failing to check both ways properly and causing a crash. Giving way like this is rarely a good idea, and I think Ashley proved exactly that.
Lady behind on her phone, it's such a widespread issue.
Agreed, had a few recently pick up the mobile as soon as traffic stops thinking it is OK.
Put the phone away people until you are safely parked. Stationary in a queue *is not parked* and just as dangerous as using a mobile in motion. Listen to what Ashley says at 5:03 as that is what happens when using your phone while stationary and you move off…complete lack of observation
Thanks Ashley
I think you were unfair to criticise at 0:51, you made the decision to let out the black Ford causing a sudden alteration the actions of your student (instigating the poor operation of the vehicle) all before the black ford even indicated their intention to change lane. The ford could have been braking take the left turning, after all they'd just shot up your inside with the lane clear behind you. Did you brake for your student? I do not believe it was the ford's intention to pull in front, I think the ford was mislead by the sign you'd just passed saying all three lane when straight on, then the road markings said the left was left turn only. The ford should have been very aware of your presence having just passed you. If you'd have continued past the ford it would have been both safer and better for flow. Now the situation with the silver before is when you wanted the car in the faster moving lane to slow that lane to let a slower moving car in rather than the slower moving car to match the faster lanes speed and move over with no one slowing. The latter is better flow, but also more difficult to manage, I imagine, with a student who is not that confident.. It was also a very different scenario with silver where an indication was made and there was plenty of time and space for either party to adjust. While I'm giving you a hard time..., I'd have given more room to the grey VW at 1:55 with the activity around it and he did check the left mirror for the ambulance, although you both had a high workload at that point so fine you didn't see (and I have a better view of his eye movements than you), but no shoulder check before pulling out again but I'd accept that a right mirror check, which he did twice was probably enough here. You are a fantastic instructor who I wish I'd had teaching me all those years ago!😄
The Focus was turning left. You can see him taking the first exit.
@@CristiNeaguthe Ford went left at the roundabout, there is a left turn before the roundabout which it could have been braking for.
@@peterthompson9854 Any reason in particular why you're repeating what I just said?
@@CristiNeagu I was clarifying that the left turn I was referring to in my comment was the turn before the roundabout and not the first exit off the roundabout.
@@peterthompson9854 He was indicating right. And his body language was saying he's going straight.
The best time to make errors is when you've got an instructor to help you to do better next time.
Rule 243 says do not stop at a bus stop. London ambulance website says to NOT commit an offence to let them through. What's your take on this Ashley ?
Use common sense, difference in London is, that if you enter a bus lane for any reason, it doesn’t matter, if it’s on the cameras it will be a fine. So that’s why it’s different in London.
Following the rules that specifically I'd counter point that they didn't stop in a bus stop. Using common sense though, that was the best option, allowed everyone to flow properly and they did not cause any obstruction stopping the bus stop being used.
Too many people use the rules as a shield when they not helping a situation rather than applying common sense.
I'm not a driving instructor, a professional driver, or even claim to be better than anyone else but if I was in that situation I'm using that bus stop to help the ambulance progess
As you can see he did it in this video without stopping
What's the bus going to do? Drive past and then parallel park into the Bus stop?
There are a lot of very silly rules in the Highway Code. And some of them seem designed to punish drivers. The problem here are the authorities and the courts. Normally, if you pull into a bus stop to let an ambulance through, any sensible human being would cancel that ticket on the spot. It's clear that you weren't parking and you weren't blocking public transport. But nope. They'll milk you for every penny. They don't care.
Good morning everybody
Morning, Keith.
Morning Keith
howe anyone learns to drive with you is beyond me, "yeah a little bit late with that thumbs up" FFS
If you go into a Bus Lane for any reason you will be fines and there is no grounds for appeal.
Subject to hours bus lanes yes.
Bus stops like this no.
towns are making amendments to that. it's slow progress, but it's in the right direction.
@@aaroo9554 when I first heard that’s a UK law, I thought it was a joke. How can you have an empty lane to the left and block an emergency vehicle. Has it ever been enforced anywhere in the UK??
5:07 I'd like to know how the heck a cyclist would have managed to get on the inside of the driver. Go from main road turn left, drive about 5 seconds and pull into bus stop.
If 'you can spot them a mile off' why is the standard of driving (cars and bikes), plummeting? BTW.. Don't chat (sorry, instruct) constantly 😉