How BAD is it if you forget to peel??

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  • Опубліковано 29 лип 2024
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    Waterblocks and air coolers both share the common trait of a metal cold plate that makes contact with the CPU for heat transfer. This needs to be protected, and not all protection is created equal. What happens to your Core i9 if you forget to peel that little piece of plastic? Let's find out.
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    CHAPTERS
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    0:00 Intro
    1:22 Why is plastic protection needed?
    2:40 i3-8100 - Setup
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    3:46 i3-8100 - Testing
    6:19 i9-9900k - Setup
    7:07 i9-9900k - Testing
    8:00 Heat transfer explanation
    9:49 Thermal throttling explanation
    10:42 How bad is it ACTUALLY?
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  • @mini-_
    @mini-_ 3 роки тому +18010

    How important is it to remove the peel?
    Depends. Not important on an apple or pear, but pretty vital on a banana or pineapple.

  • @dallatorretdu
    @dallatorretdu 3 роки тому +7292

    Peeling the plastic is like that easy game achievement like "start up the game" that somehow 15% of people don't have unlocked

    • @blinded6502
      @blinded6502 3 роки тому +247

      Due to a bug, of course

    • @suvangoda7773
      @suvangoda7773 3 роки тому +41

      Lmao good one

    • @TidusfromZanarkand
      @TidusfromZanarkand 3 роки тому +20

      Underrated comment

    • @D3nn1s
      @D3nn1s 3 роки тому +112

      @Thibaut Snoeijs (3WEA) how does that change anything op said lol?
      Its kinda a fact that, depending on the game 5-80% have never even played the game once.

    • @deViant14
      @deViant14 3 роки тому +80

      I probably own over a hundred games I haven't played once.

  • @MrGrayfour
    @MrGrayfour 2 роки тому +1600

    This reminds me of an old friend of mine.
    He didn't want me to build a system for him, and wanted it to be done by a professional.
    His i7 7700 was running at over 90c in every single game, despite it being cooled by a Hyper 212 Evo.
    He wanted to buy a water cooler, as the i7 must be a really hot running cpu.
    Asked him if I can take a look at it, and after a lot of back and forth he finally agreed.
    -> Plastic wasn't peeled, after reapplying the thermal paste, it maxed out at 64 degrees Celsius.

    • @ReZhorw
      @ReZhorw 2 роки тому +209

      What a stuck up person he sounds like...

    • @InternetsDadGaming
      @InternetsDadGaming 2 роки тому +488

      @@ReZhorw I mean, just wanting done by a professional isn't crazy, even if you trust your friend, those are expensive components, and professionals are insured and would be legally responsible for the damages.

    • @shaansingh6048
      @shaansingh6048 2 роки тому +161

      @@ReZhorw It's pretty normal to want professional work if your spending a lot of money, rather than just trusting a friend...

    • @YellowSabre
      @YellowSabre 2 роки тому +273

      @@ReZhorw "Hey bro can I fix your broken pipes?"
      "WHAT?! NO!"
      "You're a stuck up person y'know that"

    • @manialbert6560
      @manialbert6560 2 роки тому +4

      WOW is crazy because plastic sitcker wasn't peeled off before!😯😯😯

  • @TheCostantinus
    @TheCostantinus 2 роки тому +361

    Linus: "Is there plastic in between your CPU and heatsink without you knowing it?"
    Me who doesn't have a desktop pc: *starts panicking*

    • @aa-tx7th
      @aa-tx7th 2 роки тому +44

      thats like asking me if my girlfirend is cheating on me

    • @TheCostantinus
      @TheCostantinus 2 роки тому +2

      @@aa-tx7th same

    • @fakecubed
      @fakecubed 2 роки тому +4

      I'm not even a little bit worried. My computer runs shockingly cool even at full load (which is often, it's a proper workstation). I always go absurdly over-cooled on my builds so even when overclocked (if I ever bother), fans don't even need to really spin up, and it stays super quiet.

    • @kishascape
      @kishascape Рік тому +4

      I keep it on so I don't scratch my CPU.

    • @EastYoru
      @EastYoru Рік тому

      @@aa-tx7th ☠️

  • @samtherat6
    @samtherat6 3 роки тому +3617

    Linus: “Is there plastic in between your CPU and cooler right now without you knowing it?”
    Me: haha no…right? *stares at PC suspiciously*

    • @sijedevos2376
      @sijedevos2376 3 роки тому +106

      I have a nh-d15 chromax black and it doesn’t come with a peal just bulky plastic cover so I know for sure

    • @andre_oe4605
      @andre_oe4605 3 роки тому +43

      @@sijedevos2376 same here but amd stock cooler, that was their only option because of the pre-applied thermal paste

    • @Pengothing
      @Pengothing 3 роки тому +56

      I remember when I built my current rig. I installed my cooler and booted to check temps and they were really high. Did a reseat and the same. Only on the third time did I remember to peel off the plastic.

    • @Esablaka
      @Esablaka 3 роки тому +3

      @@sijedevos2376 yeah all noctua coolers have preapplied thermal paste and no peel necessary afaik.

    • @robspunk
      @robspunk 3 роки тому +13

      I'm freaking out

  • @RobertKohari
    @RobertKohari 3 роки тому +2150

    I accidentally tried it with a r5 3600 , removing it with the peel resulted in 10-25 C° drop ... Got over 20 years of PC building experience . Helps to not be distracted.

    • @ransompalmer5697
      @ransompalmer5697 3 роки тому +59

      Literally same here. Went from constantly throttling at 90 to anywhere between 65-70

    • @hunzhurte
      @hunzhurte 3 роки тому +47

      How to increase your cooler's cooling capacity by 25 °C:
      Step #1 - Build the PC incorrectly.

    • @imadecoy.
      @imadecoy. 3 роки тому +5

      The reason I couldn't make this mistake is I have to double check if the heatsink surface is nice and clean before putting it on.

    • @martinfartin85
      @martinfartin85 3 роки тому +1

      Ditto.

    • @Fiyazai
      @Fiyazai 3 роки тому +5

      I'm terrified that I forgot to do this now, and want to check lmao

  • @Stooch
    @Stooch 2 роки тому +181

    "the technician that builds your computer" thanks for the confidence boost linus

    • @aa-tx7th
      @aa-tx7th 2 роки тому +13

      imma technician now the little man on my phone said so MOM

    • @Raulxz
      @Raulxz 2 роки тому +1

      Well he’s just warning you so u dont use your pc with the plastic not peeled without knowing and getting frame drops, overheating, or any damage to the computer

  • @poletooke4691
    @poletooke4691 2 роки тому +3

    @7:19 This little core i9, I'm gonna let it shine, let it shine

  • @ShawnIngwersonSAI
    @ShawnIngwersonSAI 2 роки тому +3225

    linus saying "is there plastic in on your cooler right now" is like saying "i'm in your walls to a paranoid person"

    • @GameplayTherapy
      @GameplayTherapy 2 роки тому +102

      Lowkey had me thinking plastic was on mine 🤣 but I was like naww cant be

    • @iTzFarmy
      @iTzFarmy 2 роки тому +11

      Build your own and it won’t be a concern brooo

    • @seeibe
      @seeibe 2 роки тому +72

      @@iTzFarmy Unless you forget to peel off the plastic :D Now I know why the Intel / AMD box coolers come with thermal paste pre-applied.

    • @achtsekundenfurz7876
      @achtsekundenfurz7876 2 роки тому +60

      > "i'm in your walls to a paranoid person"
      _B R U H_ That's not how quotes are used...

    • @FrancisJohnsonLeShmiggy
      @FrancisJohnsonLeShmiggy 2 роки тому +6

      @@achtsekundenfurz7876 *B R U H* it's just a typo nothing too special

  • @vecialesca3014
    @vecialesca3014 3 роки тому +429

    "is there plastic between your cpu and your cooler right now?"
    me, who built my own pc and has used it for a year and a half with no thermal issues: *sudden pang of anxiety*

    • @amorpheusbelgium
      @amorpheusbelgium 2 роки тому +8

      I did a build recently 5600x and nh-uh12s noctua, both have hardened plastic case reaching out of the cpu area, no foil. I did have to look up a few unbox videos

    • @johndoecake
      @johndoecake 2 роки тому +8

      i dont trow them away i put them in the original boxes to make sanity check

    • @mostafarezk1972
      @mostafarezk1972 2 роки тому

      SAME

    • @joshuagoldshteyn8651
      @joshuagoldshteyn8651 2 роки тому +2

      I did this with a scythe fuma 2 and 11700k, the computer would boot up and then 10 seconds later shut down due to cpu load of opening the startup programs.

    • @achtsekundenfurz7876
      @achtsekundenfurz7876 2 роки тому +4

      Am I the only one to read the title as "How BAD is it if you forget to _pee_ " ??

  • @harunkuf7055
    @harunkuf7055 Рік тому +102

    I'm 99 percent sure I do not have the peel on since I recently upgraded my cpu but Linus got me trippin

    • @kip258
      @kip258 Рік тому +1

      I like my computers without the peel but thanks!

  • @DrippyGatsu
    @DrippyGatsu 2 роки тому +85

    I actually had that happen on my first prebuilt computer and I used it for 2 years thinking 104C° was a normal gaming temperature and when i realized it wasn't ideal temperature i opened and my CPU was covered in molten plastic and it wasn't very easy to get off but I managed to get it out and bought new thermal paste and it went from 70C° not gaming to 40C° and from gaming temp of avarage 90-100C° to 60-75C°.

    • @Jenna_Talia
      @Jenna_Talia Рік тому +32

      2 years at 104°C... Jesus fucking Christ that poor CPU.

    • @imsSpiceyy
      @imsSpiceyy Рік тому

      @@Jenna_Talia how can jesus fuck christ?

    • @MinorityDestroyer
      @MinorityDestroyer 8 місяців тому

      ​@@Jenna_TaliaIt's pain and torment has made it stronger

  • @cs83
    @cs83 2 роки тому +1524

    When taking apart my old Pentium II 266 PC from high school, I discovered the OEM that built it hadn't peeled the plastic off the TIM on the CPU heatsink. Funny enough, the system ran just fine for years through lots of gaming and was just about as stable as anything else from that era, and more stable than the Athlon that replaced it. Go figure.

    • @MASTER_CHIEFS71
      @MASTER_CHIEFS71 2 роки тому +69

      6:02 - What Linus said to his first successful date

    • @alyx6427
      @alyx6427 2 роки тому +51

      to be fair older CPUs didn't even have very big heatsinks so didn't need much cooking at all lmao

    • @AchievementDenied
      @AchievementDenied 2 роки тому +23

      Sounds like that old PC was Ork technology. You see, red and stickers make you go fastuh!

    • @johngangemi1361
      @johngangemi1361 2 роки тому +23

      Big difference in heat output from a 233MHz chip to a chip with a base clock of greater than 2.8GHz.

    • @kingeling
      @kingeling 2 роки тому +9

      @@MASTER_CHIEFS71 He didn’t need to *peel* either 😳 he’s circumcised

  • @lilbitretro6377
    @lilbitretro6377 2 роки тому +475

    As a computer repair tech, I've absolutely done this once before, on a very expensive build. Luckily, there was an inherent issue with the BIOS not being up to date for the CPU being used and I had to take off the cooler to use a different CPU and caught my error after barely attempting to POST all of twice, so no damage done.

    • @Reeferman420NL
      @Reeferman420NL 2 роки тому +32

      I also once made this mistake when changing the CPU cooler of a PC from a friend. In that case is was to replace the stock Intel cooler to a decent one. Forgot to peel the plastic. Ran the system, and where disappointed with the temp improvement. Used it for a day and I started to doubt if I peeled the plastic from the cooler. Checked it, removed it and temps were as we anticipated. 15c lower or so.

    • @sylvia5925
      @sylvia5925 2 роки тому +6

      question is how many times you did it WITHOUT noticing

    • @lilbitretro6377
      @lilbitretro6377 2 роки тому +9

      @@sylvia5925 Zero, actually. I always run a thermal stress test after configuring any sort of cooling setup to confirm that everything is operating the way it should be. I check pre-test thermals to confirm they're in the expected range, and that's usually when I find the discrepancy. However, I wouldn't want to do it on the newest CPUs that run fairly warm as-is.

    • @sylvia5925
      @sylvia5925 2 роки тому +8

      @@lilbitretro6377 oh nice, sorry for doubting you

    • @shanez1215
      @shanez1215 2 роки тому +1

      Did this on my buddies build as well even though I built several PC's already. Don't change a cooler when tired lol.
      In my defense, they were all budget builds so I used the stock cooler that didn't have the sticker

  • @KronosGreek
    @KronosGreek 2 роки тому +4

    When I was working for CybertronPC. This has happened quite a times with the plastic on the CPU cooler. When it got to the testers they would pay EXTREME attention to the temps because of that. We had maybe 50 computers starting out with the enermax coolers

  • @user-hn2wc3fy7y
    @user-hn2wc3fy7y Рік тому +13

    I can’t believe you put this on me. I just put my 5800X into my C6H and I know for a fact there isn’t any plastic on my 5yo cooler but I’m going to check because I need to see it with my own eyes again.

    • @cooledoodle
      @cooledoodle Рік тому +2

      exact same scenario for me with my 5800x3d and my h150i

    • @cplroebuck22
      @cplroebuck22 Рік тому

      @@cooledoodle the 5800x3d running well? heard it's a save-all cpu for tarkov so i might upgrade eventually

    • @cooledoodle
      @cooledoodle Рік тому

      @@cplroebuck22 yea it’s amazing. make sure you undervolt it tho

  • @Verlisify
    @Verlisify 3 роки тому +1792

    Thanks Linus I now have the equivalent anxiety to wondering if I left the oven on while on Vacation.

    • @utkarshsurjan4326
      @utkarshsurjan4326 3 роки тому +6

      @@demomanfromtf2574 idk this UA-camr did he do something wrong?

    • @Verlisify
      @Verlisify 3 роки тому +26

      @@demomanfromtf2574 Nah. I'll just continue being more value than you in every way.

    • @steriftes
      @steriftes 3 роки тому

      @@DemeDemetre bro, why couldn' you divide a channel and a comment? tbh channel background isn't something i care about, if the comment were generally funny

    • @Verlisify
      @Verlisify 3 роки тому +12

      @@DemeDemetre Likes don't do anything, so your accusation of farming is pure idiocy

    • @Verlisify
      @Verlisify 3 роки тому +8

      @@utkarshsurjan4326 Only to the most toxic kids on social media. They are mad because I expose liars, cheaters, and scammers in the Pokemon Community

  • @allthingsmotorized1885
    @allthingsmotorized1885 3 роки тому +545

    Linus: 'is there plastic between your cpu and cooler right now without out you knowing it?'
    Me: 'now im concerned there is even though ive had my new cooler on for a month now with good thermals'

  • @jsalsman
    @jsalsman 2 роки тому +5

    It might be a good idea to consider that most polymers degrading due to excessive heat do so over hours to months more often than minutes to hours.

  • @pear7777
    @pear7777 2 роки тому +1

    More if a surprise science lesson, still greatly explained, and accurate.

  • @jamessmith2501
    @jamessmith2501 3 роки тому +293

    Linus: " I made 3 mistakes", I immediately thought,
    Dropped the Cooler, dropped the GPU, dropped the power supply

  • @TanmaySankolli
    @TanmaySankolli 3 роки тому +183

    "Someone could easily doze off while making computers over at Dell and Acer"
    Shots Fired.

    • @LagoRafael
      @LagoRafael 2 роки тому +7

      Me looking anxiously at my Acer laptop

    • @TanmaySankolli
      @TanmaySankolli 2 роки тому +3

      @@LagoRafael O_O

    • @twothreebravo
      @twothreebravo 2 роки тому +6

      But don't worry, Dell sold you the warranty, even if you didn't want it.

    • @Reverse_Goat
      @Reverse_Goat 2 роки тому

      @@TanmaySankolli hello!

  • @ON-EightySix
    @ON-EightySix 2 роки тому

    i built my first pc yesterday and it started first go without any problems was rather proud and i do say thats cause i watched you guys for a few weeks befor building it...

  • @Ruby-ms5uy
    @Ruby-ms5uy 2 роки тому

    so goofy cuz in Physics Class rn in school in learning all about circuits and resistance, current, voltage, and wattage but I understood completely what Linus was talking about felt great

  • @ddmn369j2
    @ddmn369j2 3 роки тому +84

    When I worked at an electronics recycler, I ran into this exact thing with a recycled Dell desktop. The person said it never ran like it was suppose to (long before thermal throttling existed). When I pulled the cooler out of curiosity, there was the sticker. I laughed so hard

    • @kasuraga
      @kasuraga 3 роки тому +3

      long before thermal throttling? So like, early 2000's? Late 90's? Intel has had thermal throttling since the P3 era, and AMD enabled it not too long after due to their cpu's literally burning up.

    • @hubertnnn
      @hubertnnn 3 роки тому +2

      Was there a 10% off warranty discount coupon on the sticker?

    • @ddmn369j2
      @ddmn369j2 3 роки тому

      @@kasuraga My guessed estimate may have been wrong because I really associated boosting and throttling starting with the core i series. It was either a P3, P4, or PD. In the state we got it would thermally shut off within 10 seconds of entering the bios. It had a very tall air cooler with plastic ducting directing air through the back of the case, it was quite a system for its time. And boy Dell had some awful capacitors, we could only "recondition" about half of the Dells that came through

  • @Sahtoovi
    @Sahtoovi 3 роки тому +359

    I once forgot to peel the thing off of my AIO. When idling, temps were actually normal but even a bit of load made them shoot up to 100 degrees and the CPU throttled massively.

    • @HappyBeezerStudios
      @HappyBeezerStudios 2 роки тому

      While water cooling should result in the opposite if used without the sticker. Temps rise slowly and fall slowly.

    • @Sahtoovi
      @Sahtoovi 2 роки тому +1

      @@HappyBeezerStudios I haven't noticed such behavior in normal use cases. The temps rise immediately when load starts and drop immediately when it ends. With very long 100% load the temps might rise by a few degrees over 10 minutes but nothing out of the ordinary, that happens on air coolers too.

    • @dustinjames1268
      @dustinjames1268 2 роки тому

      @@HappyBeezerStudios
      When cooling capacity is reduced, the chip will swing in temperatures faster
      It's a simple law of physics, if you can't easily transfer energy, it builds up

    • @nando03012009
      @nando03012009 2 роки тому

      I did the same on a 32 core threadripper. 30c instant gain when I started a game. Spent 2 hours draining and refilling my loop. Fist and only time I've done it. Been building pc's since I was 10 and never made that mistake. There's a first for everything

    • @GameTimeWhy
      @GameTimeWhy 2 роки тому

      @@nando03012009 how often do you change out the water in your loop?

  • @JusteazyGames
    @JusteazyGames Рік тому

    I had an iBuyPower pre-built come into my shop last year that still had the plastic on it. I was the first technician to work on it since it was bought.

  • @marine4gaming721
    @marine4gaming721 2 роки тому

    Thanks linus for the explanation. Your the reason why I'm so intrested in computers . Great video man

  • @thechannelofrandomness7670
    @thechannelofrandomness7670 3 роки тому +736

    "The cooler your CPU the longer it lasts"
    My laptop which idles at 65c : **chuckles** guess i'll die

    • @starlii10
      @starlii10 3 роки тому +33

      Waiting for my desk so I use my bed to play on my laptop.
      IT'S HOT

    • @thechannelofrandomness7670
      @thechannelofrandomness7670 3 роки тому +41

      @@starlii10 use the box which your laptop came with...keep the laptop on the box and use it

    • @Nj1498
      @Nj1498 3 роки тому +27

      Yo, that's artic.
      100⁰C or don't mention it.

    • @WigglyWings
      @WigglyWings 3 роки тому +9

      Open task manager: "We have a meltdown"

    • @ArtyIF
      @ArtyIF 2 роки тому +3

      if it's old then try cleaning it from dust

  • @walterkruse348
    @walterkruse348 3 роки тому +182

    Real talk: I did this once. It was a watercooled setup, so it still ran fine, but my temps were WAY worse than they should have been.
    I forget how I found out. Maybe I just tried to replace the thermal compound or something. Anyway, found it, fixed it, temps were WAY better.

    • @rolyicecold
      @rolyicecold 3 роки тому +1

      same situation happened to me.

    • @walterkruse348
      @walterkruse348 3 роки тому +10

      @@DemeDemetre I remember it being pretty obvious the plastic was there when I took the cooling block off, but it wasn't anything I had to scrape off, if that's what you mean.
      I think my CPU temps pre-fix were around 95 C. If you think about it, boiling water (100 C) won't necessarily melt plastic right away.

    • @bepbep7418
      @bepbep7418 3 роки тому +7

      @@walterkruse348 plastic is pretty good at heat dissapation at lower temps as well. So even if your CPU was at 100°C that doesn't mean the plastic was at 100°C. Your heatsink was still doing its job, but WAY less efficient.

    • @gabness5374
      @gabness5374 3 роки тому +3

      i actually did the same thing, left plastic on the cooler, and i never realised until i swapped cases and thought why not reapply thermal paste, i never noticed because temps were actually fine so it was like that for a good year or so. the plastic was also in the same condition it was before it had been used (it didnt melt)

    • @TrueThanny
      @TrueThanny 2 роки тому

      @@DemeDemetre Any manufacturer should be using thermoset plastic in such an application. Once shaped, thermoset plastic will never melt again. It will just burn if the temperature gets high enough, which is basically impossible in this kind of scenario.

  • @pavlentyone
    @pavlentyone 2 роки тому

    Linus, Thank you for the content!

  • @noahh7584
    @noahh7584 2 роки тому

    One thing I've always noticed is that your guy's audio is usually on point, good job LTT

  • @sturdybutter
    @sturdybutter 3 роки тому +192

    Wow, Riley does a good sponge bob narrator voice.

    • @wetmelon
      @wetmelon 2 роки тому +5

      Doesn't he have some actual voice acting credits? I recall them saying he was on MLP

    • @Blockcity4k
      @Blockcity4k 2 роки тому +1

      @@wetmelon Correct, he appeared two times in mlp. Which were Season 8 episode 16 as a student, and Season 7 episode 2 as a gamemaster.

    • @joshuakungames6523
      @joshuakungames6523 2 роки тому

      Wish we could have got LGR in an episode too "greetings and welcome every pony, to another Lazy Pony Review. Today we have Sim Pony 2000". XD

    • @samholdsworth3957
      @samholdsworth3957 2 роки тому

      Who lives in a used condom under a bed? Linus SquarePants

    • @joshuakungames6523
      @joshuakungames6523 2 роки тому

      absorbing thermal paste and cpu g

  • @j_m_b_1914
    @j_m_b_1914 2 роки тому +654

    I'm old enough to remember when CPUs DIDN'T have thermal throttling technology. They would actually fry themselves in this scenario (given enough performance load on the chip)

    • @gglovato
      @gglovato 2 роки тому +60

      Athlon XP remembers....

    • @johngangemi1361
      @johngangemi1361 2 роки тому +30

      Any electronics/electrical person knows that excess heat kills semiconductor devices fast.
      Even when a CPU processor is idle it is still executing instructions. On x86 even with instructions such as HLT to reduce power in idle loops are broken when an interrupt is triggered. The heat needs to get out of the junction whether there is thermal protection or not.

    • @JohnR31415
      @JohnR31415 2 роки тому +10

      I’m old enough to have done it…. Third running at over a GHz on a water cooling setup (very basic block, and I was actually using a large crate as a reservoir and gently evaporative cooler)

    • @TheMrTape
      @TheMrTape 2 роки тому +6

      So like what, 20 years old?

    • @reitersul586
      @reitersul586 2 роки тому

      Linus is probably old enough as well

  • @jordanprice7124
    @jordanprice7124 Рік тому

    I just did this the last week and it’s the 3rd build I’ve done this year… no problems on the other ones.. luckily my fans told me and wouldn’t let me forget about it for long.

  • @spikeshartell4675
    @spikeshartell4675 Рік тому

    I remember making this mistake when installing an AIO on a FX 8350,(because that stock cooler was ridiculous). I could tell right away something was off as everything pretty much ran like crap once. Once I checked and removed the plastic and put on new thermal paste it was fine.

  • @Da40kOrks
    @Da40kOrks 2 роки тому +226

    Back when Socket A first came out, the AMD retail fans had a piece of plastic over the thermal pad. I was working at a local store at the time, and it was VERY common for customers to not remove the plastic despite a written notice we included with every CPU sold.
    Not removing the plastic was almost guaranteed to kill the CPU.

    • @DenverStarkey
      @DenverStarkey 2 роки тому +1

      hmmm , back when i got a thunderbird 850 , it had NO stock heatsink/fan with it at all. so not sure what you are talking about , had to buy the heat sink separate from the cpu. granted that the heat sink /fan i did buy for it had a peice of plastic over it. just never heard of any slot processors that came with a stock heat sink.

    • @Da40kOrks
      @Da40kOrks 2 роки тому

      @@DenverStarkey Retail boxed CPUs back then came with fans just like current ones.

    • @DenverStarkey
      @DenverStarkey 2 роки тому

      @@Da40kOrks not all of them apparently because I had two that didn't.

    • @ameunier41
      @ameunier41 2 роки тому +1

      @@DenverStarkey Might depend on the store? Maybe some store preferred the kit without heatsink to cut cost.

  • @guilhermemartins2606
    @guilhermemartins2606 2 роки тому +677

    I was WAITING for the redemption moment when Linus would satisfyingly peel off the plastic and then nail all the benchmarks without it thermal throttling.
    I'm left extremely blue balled.

    • @BIGAPEGANGLEADER
      @BIGAPEGANGLEADER 2 роки тому +22

      I dont think an evo 212 would nail the benchmarks with a 9900k!

    • @bencarey243
      @bencarey243 2 роки тому

      I unliked your comment only because it was at 420 and I didn't want to ruin that!

    • @electimon_
      @electimon_ Рік тому +11

      @@bencarey243 you can relike it now

    • @kishascape
      @kishascape Рік тому +1

      @@BIGAPEGANGLEADER You take that back!

    • @odapow752
      @odapow752 Рік тому +6

      Yeah, the lack of a control in this little experiment is pretty disappointing.

  • @mahal1891
    @mahal1891 2 роки тому +1

    Thanks for making everyone think back and wonder if they peeled the plastic, like closing the garage door when you're not at home.

  • @lifetranscendence3711
    @lifetranscendence3711 2 роки тому

    Lol! I did this just yesterday… Glad I caught it but yeah; super easy to overlook!

  • @Diego35HD
    @Diego35HD 3 роки тому +793

    My brain really took the "l" out of "peel" for a second

  • @reset1101
    @reset1101 3 роки тому +96

    It happened to me many years ago, when I got a store to mount a gaming PC for me. It worked fine, but temps were too high. I removed the CPU cooler to reapply thermal paste and check it was properly mounted, and discovered they hadnt removed that plastic. Temps were normal after that. I told them and they didnt know what to say, they apologised at least. Have assembled all my PCs myself since then.

    • @Sharp_3yE
      @Sharp_3yE 3 роки тому +6

      Should have given you a discount of something you could buy.

    • @PrinceDanzel
      @PrinceDanzel 3 роки тому +1

      in my case i literally pulled a paper sticker to my cpu fvk prebuilt 2nd hands

  • @Trolej1
    @Trolej1 2 роки тому

    I've had experience like that many, MANY years ago - with a bunch of like 10 prebuilts from a local boutique with a Celerons 366 (socket 370 version, not slot1). When they started to hang/bluescreen/fail one after another during a hot summer investigation was in order, and there they were - beautiful price/warranty paper stickers "provided" courtesy of said boutique, on top of a IHS of each of those CPUs. Removed them and magically everything was in order again...

  • @Nonsense116
    @Nonsense116 2 роки тому +2

    I don't build PCs for a living. I built the one I use, I've upgraded it over the years, and that's it. By the thumbnail I thought this video was implying that there is plastic on the CPU itself that needs to be peeled! I about lost my mind and almost started to disassemble my rig.

  • @jackantharia
    @jackantharia 3 роки тому +87

    I once forgot to peel a plastic from a brand new steaming iron. that was a sad day

    • @justward354
      @justward354 3 роки тому +3

      R.I.P shirt

    • @lunakoala5053
      @lunakoala5053 3 роки тому +10

      @@justward354 nah. Just RIP steaming iron.
      You know, you preheat those things, during which the plastic foil would melt and probably smoke.
      Using it in this state on your shirt would be next level stupid.

    • @defencebangladesh4068
      @defencebangladesh4068 3 роки тому

      RIP
      clothes

    • @rita25y.o-checkmyvideo44
      @rita25y.o-checkmyvideo44 3 роки тому

      wolf might have devoured the🚱🚯🚭🚳🚫⛔️🔞

    • @rita25y.o-checkmyvideo44
      @rita25y.o-checkmyvideo44 3 роки тому

      ‘Come, Little Red-Cap, here is a😫😪😯🤐😮😥😣

  • @Raghib
    @Raghib 2 роки тому +642

    Thanks Linus Now All The People With Pre Builds Have Anxiety, Including Me.

    • @awato987
      @awato987 2 роки тому +23

      oh wow, a no-name minecraft youtuber. Not like I've seen hundreds of 'em already.

    • @Raghib
      @Raghib 2 роки тому +64

      @@awato987 damn

    • @stelios5962
      @stelios5962 2 роки тому +56

      @@awato987 oh wow, another 5 year old

    • @ciru.
      @ciru. 2 роки тому +52

      @@awato987 talking like you aren’t a no name yourself… have some respect

    • @mattm3023
      @mattm3023 2 роки тому +1

      Serves you right

  • @zedokaiba6047
    @zedokaiba6047 2 роки тому +1

    You know what I love more than not peeling off the film? Making a Aluminum and copper water cooler.

  • @EpicLakitu
    @EpicLakitu 2 роки тому +1

    My first build 6 years ago I forgot to peel off the plastic on my stock Intel cooler, 3 years later after consistent high temps that I thought were normal, I decided to swap the cooler mainly for aesthetics and died when I still saw the cover on there lol
    Surprisingly ran into little issues because I wasn't too much of a power user I guess, but this video brought back some real funny memories.

  • @joshbarkis4058
    @joshbarkis4058 3 роки тому +393

    The Beginning: plays
    Everyone who built their own pc: visible panic

    • @tristanr7581
      @tristanr7581 3 роки тому +11

      The most stressful part of building mine was seating that $300 cpu, especially during a chip shortage, so thank you Linus for more anxiety.

    • @Z1proW
      @Z1proW 3 роки тому +9

      More panic when it's NOT you who built it

    • @tristanr7581
      @tristanr7581 3 роки тому

      True lol

    • @TidusfromZanarkand
      @TidusfromZanarkand 2 роки тому +2

      ​@@tristanr7581 Dude, I've seen my old 980ti literally catch on fire due to current fluctuations destroying my old PSU. I don't think I've ever sweated more in my life, while re-building a PC and plugging a new GPU on a new PSU. After hitting the O/I switch and seeing the system powercycle and boot, I legit felt I needed to lay down on the bed . .

    • @user-og5lo
      @user-og5lo 2 роки тому

      @@TidusfromZanarkand whats current fluctuation and how to prevent this from happening?

  • @NextLevelCode
    @NextLevelCode 2 роки тому +39

    In high school I knew someone who burned up a CPU this way. That was back when CPU's didn't automatically throttle when they got too hot. Also he left on a rubber protector not a thin film.

  • @BlindSteven92
    @BlindSteven92 2 роки тому +2

    0:16 well that is 4 errors with it not turning on... lol!

  • @garethfairclough8715
    @garethfairclough8715 2 роки тому

    Only time I ever came across that, was taking apart an old dead early 2000s IBM Netvista PC so I could use the case for a project.
    IBM put that celeron CPU in there with so much care, they left a big thick plastic shroud on the CPU then put the cooler on that.
    No wonder the previous owner junked it as "it never worked".

  • @cadenchurchill4296
    @cadenchurchill4296 3 роки тому +54

    8:02 Linus: "Surprise math lesson!"
    Bender: "Oh yeah baby!" 😍

    • @guilhermetorresj
      @guilhermetorresj 3 роки тому +3

      Surprise thermodynamics. The best kind of surprise.

  • @BadMax02_VR
    @BadMax02_VR 3 роки тому +3

    5:06 "a few moments later" completely remade just for copyright, i love it xD

  • @froyotech
    @froyotech 2 роки тому

    thanks for the tech tips

  • @ViniciusNegrao_
    @ViniciusNegrao_ 2 роки тому +1

    4:49 tactical cut

  • @PhobiaSoft
    @PhobiaSoft 3 роки тому +117

    This video just taught me how impressive and underrated low-wattage CPUs are

    • @dr.president6702
      @dr.president6702 3 роки тому +2

      Wattage are low on cpu because it built like that I think i not sure tho

    • @DanKaschel
      @DanKaschel 3 роки тому +45

      @@dr.president6702 what did I just read

    • @2m0ng032
      @2m0ng032 3 роки тому +46

      @@dr.president6702 Yes, low wattage CPUs are low wattage CPUs because they're built like low wattage CPUs.

    • @tnvd.
      @tnvd. 3 роки тому +25

      @@dr.president6702 ah yes air consists of air

    • @henrrypoop7570
      @henrrypoop7570 3 роки тому +5

      @@dr.president6702 asian moments

  • @Tolak32
    @Tolak32 3 роки тому +12

    This reminds me of when my friend completely forgot to install the cooler and wondered why opening a folder took so long .

  • @Inpheksion
    @Inpheksion 2 роки тому +1

    My friend had a 4790k with the plastic on the cooler. Ran it for years like that with no issues. Only discovered it when I picked up the computer off him when his PSU went up and put it into a smaller case.

  • @Ronaldinh0
    @Ronaldinh0 Рік тому +1

    2:45 Tivolt to o Tobie, nadal pamiętamy

  • @nylfii
    @nylfii 2 роки тому +17

    Once at work we actually had the situation where a prebuilt Dell system had the plastic sticker between the CPU and the heatsink.
    We didn't think it would be possible that such thing happens with prebuilts, but after insanely loud fan noises and CPU temps of ~100c we couldn't resist to look.

    • @kishascape
      @kishascape Рік тому

      My toshiba laptop was like that for some reason. It's a good thing I was replacing the paste anyways.

  • @steveman1982
    @steveman1982 3 роки тому +75

    My friend replaced some thermal pads on his 3080... one of those still had the peel still on it. On a forum he found someone who also replaced his pads, all of them had the peel still on.
    So this may be more common a mistake than it should be.
    22c cooler afterwards.

    • @Steuber101
      @Steuber101 3 роки тому +3

      Can confirm with the pads from 3080 xD

    • @zlac
      @zlac 3 роки тому +2

      What manufacturer? I guess some are more frugal than the others.

  • @tylerschrand1834
    @tylerschrand1834 2 роки тому

    always thought linus was just techy but he pulls out actual mathematics with solid charts and reason & mathematical based evidence with rates of changes and subscripts. what a guy

  • @Ha-gotcha420
    @Ha-gotcha420 2 роки тому

    I almost did this myself glad I caught it ad glad I'm not the only one 😅

  • @andrewc3193
    @andrewc3193 3 роки тому +67

    I'd be interested to see the difference between a fully scratched up base of a cooler vs a polished base, both with adequate paste.
    Will there be a noticeable temp difference?

    • @MarkoDash
      @MarkoDash 3 роки тому +2

      wouldn't a pattern of ridges with an equivalent pattern on the cooler be better than two flat planes, both for the greatly increased surface area and better lockup between parts?

    • @Timeward76
      @Timeward76 3 роки тому +8

      @@MarkoDash thermal paste isnt really a great thermal conductor, all it does is fill in the small gaps left over between the two layers of metal. With machined surfaces, you have thousands of microscopic grooves able to make metal to metal contact, while with a scratched up surface, you reduce the ammount of those smaller grooves.

    • @MarkoDash
      @MarkoDash 3 роки тому +3

      @@Timeward76 i meant an interlocking pattern like a picatinny rail but on a much smaller/denser scale

    • @Timeward76
      @Timeward76 3 роки тому +7

      @@MarkoDash that would be very expensive to manufacture compared to just flat surfaces, and while it would likely work better its not worth the cost outside of custom, tailor made applications.

    • @evancosentino607
      @evancosentino607 3 роки тому +7

      @@MarkoDash @timeward is mostly right. The other MAJOR benefit of thermal grease is that it pumps out the air and prevents bubbles. A system like the one you are describing would make that considerably more difficult to ensure. Secondly, when you have a system like the one you describes, you have increased your surface area, but decrease the cross sectional area for the heat flux. What I mean is, all of the small ridges (fins, really) have heat coming from both sides, and will struggle to transfer that to the base efficiently. Basically your heat flux is no longer constant across the body, but has peaks of higher and lower flux. So you might get a small performance boost, but it would not be equivalent to the increased surface area. Source: I'm a thermal engineer for electronics.

  • @MadShadow_
    @MadShadow_ 3 роки тому +41

    Probably the one thing I check the most when building a PC is the Cooler, haven't made the mistake yet. Hope i'll never will.

    • @Mertiq
      @Mertiq 3 роки тому +1

      @F**СК МЕ - СНЕCK MY РR0FILЕ what on earth...

  • @jussipohjalainen5908
    @jussipohjalainen5908 2 роки тому +1

    yup, happened to me. build my pc almost 3 years ago. and about 4 monts ago i started to drop frames like crazy and got high cpu temps. so i opened my puter up and changed the thermal paste. and once i was cleaning the paste off the cooler i noticed i had the sticker on. :p

  • @RicardoSantos-oz3uj
    @RicardoSantos-oz3uj Рік тому

    Great now I am tempted to open the pc just to check this.

  • @rev327th
    @rev327th 3 роки тому +10

    1:34 heart attack

  • @costak7679
    @costak7679 3 роки тому +81

    "Our first vict - eh participant" . I'm deceased.

    • @tridiots3681
      @tridiots3681 3 роки тому

      Why's there suddenly this influx of scambots?

    • @oliverer3
      @oliverer3 3 роки тому

      @@tridiots3681 happens every few months when some bot scammer finds a new way to create bot accounts before it gets patched.

    • @tridiots3681
      @tridiots3681 3 роки тому

      @@oliverer3 they really didn't try and make it at least a tad bit believable eh? I mean "F**CK NE - CHECK MY PROFILE" really makes anything unbelievable

    • @oliverer3
      @oliverer3 3 роки тому

      @@tridiots3681 that's what's referred to as a gullibility test

    • @tridiots3681
      @tridiots3681 3 роки тому

      @@oliverer3 and I assume people are really gullible if they so decide to fall into the trap.
      Or just horniness

  • @oblio10
    @oblio10 2 роки тому

    Linus is really a performer! I'm not sure there's anybody else who could do what he does lol

  • @argoneum
    @argoneum 2 роки тому

    Built my parents a PC back in a day, it had a C2D E8400 in it. The machine was working for years, but at some point it wasn't enough to even browse the web or use Zoom, so I replaced it with "this new raisin thing". While removing the old parts I found that the cooler wasn't cooling anything: two pegs on the top were broken, so the CPU was "air cooled". Not sure for how long, surprisingly it is still in working condition. Some time before same thing happened to the Duron Morgan, and it actually released the magic smoke in a fraction of a second…

  • @Shinson_music
    @Shinson_music 3 роки тому +64

    I would be interested in who is now taking everything off his cooler to see whether the plastic protection is still on

    • @nicholastrawinski
      @nicholastrawinski 3 роки тому +7

      I think i may have fucked up...

    • @Whiskey_Dave
      @Whiskey_Dave 3 роки тому +3

      Considering it...

    • @brandondiaz7296
      @brandondiaz7296 3 роки тому +2

      I am anxious now

    • @jockeolzzon1222
      @jockeolzzon1222 2 роки тому +2

      Glad im not the only one, i have no idea if i remembered to peel it off my 212 evo lol

    • @RDani223
      @RDani223 2 роки тому

      i remember peeling it off

  • @soejrd24978
    @soejrd24978 3 роки тому +25

    I want some office vlogs, they've been my favorite the last 5 years

    • @skaizek4919
      @skaizek4919 2 роки тому +3

      As i remember Linus said that they do some office vlogs on Floatplane, because they are not so big or not so interesting to put them on main channel. Sadly i'm not subbed on floatplane so I'm not 100% sure

  • @nox_luna
    @nox_luna 2 роки тому

    i have that same NZXT cooler, kraken series right? i also replaced the fans on it with some stronger ones, i have a 5800x ryzen so it needs the cooling power.
    lol that coolermaster heatsink i have too, was on a 1700x but that thing hated my ram

  • @jomanaitor
    @jomanaitor 2 роки тому

    Seeing this video draws me back to when I discovered that my father,a guy who has been doing modding for nearly 10 years,had the peel in the cooler of his personal computer
    just couldn't believe it

  • @sedalc
    @sedalc 2 роки тому +54

    Would be interesting to have a video to show how much surface imperfections increase the CPU temp by intentionally damage the CPU cooler

    • @kishascape
      @kishascape Рік тому +2

      surface imperfections are the whole reason we use thermal paste to begin with.

  • @mathematicalninja2756
    @mathematicalninja2756 3 роки тому +4

    4:26 oh hi
    *proceeds to headshot*

  • @tompiitrashbin925
    @tompiitrashbin925 2 роки тому +2

    “This little core i9” cracked me up lol 😂

  • @hanshurnanen7402
    @hanshurnanen7402 2 роки тому

    Thanks for making video about this topic, cos I once built PC (for my friend actually) and everything went perfect expect I forgot to peel that plastic, and it installed Windows fine and first thing I downloaded was thermal programs and saw really high temp so I assumed, that I forgot to peel it and fixed it soon as possible, but I wanted to know if there was any type of harm using plastic as thermal paste for short time and clearly no harm since it was only for really short time and low loads.

  • @wildstoo
    @wildstoo 2 роки тому +28

    "if you're a heavy user" - I feel personally attacked.

    • @vladpintilei6204
      @vladpintilei6204 2 роки тому +6

      Do you frequently consume sandwiches with an olive on top?

    • @googleaccounticus6078
      @googleaccounticus6078 2 роки тому +1

      Would you describe yourself as a “fat, bald, fatty fat fat”?

    • @spritzerland
      @spritzerland 2 роки тому

      Do you name a lethal weapon that you always use?

  • @michaelbradley14
    @michaelbradley14 3 роки тому +19

    Always find this stuff super interesting, never have the opportunity to test things like this for myself so it's nice to see it tested from people I trust! Thanks Linus + whoever wrote this one

  • @aerobridge_
    @aerobridge_ 2 роки тому +2

    I did this on my first PC build the other day. Luckily, we caught it before we even fully set up Windows.

  • @Fobia17
    @Fobia17 Рік тому

    I definitely missed the step once. Left it on to do a dry fit, addressed clearance issues, realized I knocked my finger at some point, and by the time I came back (no longer bleeding red juice) and forgot to take it off. It ran for 3 years like that. No issues.

  • @joeltowart8396
    @joeltowart8396 2 роки тому +28

    Great video guys. It's there little "back to basics" what if type videos that make people less afraid to have a go and build their own system. Nicely done.

    • @TheMrTape
      @TheMrTape 2 роки тому +2

      Hows it great when they did no baseline without plastic to compare and thus never answered the question in the title..?

  • @Krojack76
    @Krojack76 3 роки тому +178

    I like how Linus thinks Dell would use a good CPU cooler like that.

    • @RobertKohari
      @RobertKohari 2 роки тому +6

      Guess he missed Steve's Dell review 😂

    • @AsbestosMuffins
      @AsbestosMuffins 2 роки тому +1

      ikr, my company went and bought microcenter prebuilts and I was shocked they had actual cpu coolers because dell's prebuilts have some shitty fanlessbchunk of aluminum like its a pentium 3

  • @michielbibbe9322
    @michielbibbe9322 2 роки тому

    I bought my first computer from someone that had build it self and he forgot to peel the plastic of. It was a i7 3930K that really easy could handel it, because these cpu's are beast. But when i tried to overclock it, it ran way too hot so i stopped overclocking and ask for help. Some guy's said that maybe the cooler was not mounted correctly and that is where i found out that the cooler had still that plastic on! My cpu didn't died and it still runs nice and cool!

  • @mrballoonhands5376
    @mrballoonhands5376 2 роки тому +2

    Linus: coolers have protectors because the slightest scratch can reduce efficiency
    Also Linus: proceeds to start whacking a metal rod on the coolers' surface

  • @ogpimpdaddy1357
    @ogpimpdaddy1357 3 роки тому +165

    Yo LTT team, when's the LTT screwdriver coming?

    • @j_c771
      @j_c771 3 роки тому +4

      yeah would be nice

    • @donc-m4900
      @donc-m4900 3 роки тому +4

      hmm LTT vodka...

    • @chrispersinger5422
      @chrispersinger5422 3 роки тому +1

      I want an LTT Bluetooth Hose

    • @Thumper68
      @Thumper68 3 роки тому +2

      Why they making ridiculous percent mark up on their $3-5 bottles already lmao

  • @davidyu1813
    @davidyu1813 2 роки тому +19

    Linus: enjoys peeling everything with a plastic film.
    Also Linus: forget to peel the cooler.

  • @shirou_22
    @shirou_22 2 роки тому +1

    Linus: It no worky
    Twomad: It brokey

  • @mortgagebydustin
    @mortgagebydustin 2 роки тому

    DUDE! I took over a computer store and found one of the demo I5 8400 CPU that had a heat sink mounted completely wrong and there was NO contact to the CPU. Mind you, the computer only ran youtube videos, it still ran for 3 years and now runs cool as a tech computer.

  • @MaDrung
    @MaDrung 3 роки тому +6

    This is the kind of thing that will make me open my eyes at night.

  • @vasyajx
    @vasyajx 3 роки тому +31

    I think this is one of those things where experience makes you more prone to errors since you've done it the right way you become carelessly whereas a novice would be more careful

  • @byronmudaliar8358
    @byronmudaliar8358 Рік тому

    You won't experience any major impacts until quite a long period of use, I had a custom loop hammy downed from an old housemate who upgraded when 10 series dropped due to performance issues and frequent crashes. Dismantling and re sitting everything into my case we found he did this exact thing. This was after 5 years of use. The film had melted to the CPU and thus was causing the crashes, we ended up wet glass sanding the surface area is still operating today with the occasional blue screen

  • @AndyMitchellUK26
    @AndyMitchellUK26 2 роки тому

    The segues are getting smoother every day...

  • @nobrakes7892
    @nobrakes7892 3 роки тому +24

    Thanks, Linus I am the type of guy who checks likes 3 times if the car is actually locked.

  • @ZsoltMate
    @ZsoltMate 3 роки тому +7

    I just love that command prompt showing up every now and then.

  • @sh4dowst3p
    @sh4dowst3p 2 роки тому

    When he pulled that big plastic shield of the nzxt aio I was so relieved. Just put one in a few months ago… phew

  • @darthmayhem2523
    @darthmayhem2523 2 роки тому

    I actually did this with my 5600G/AIO a few months back....and as soon as I started Cinebench (testing) temps went stupid high. That's when I remembered the plastic. Good old Cinebench.