What we get wrong about cycling in the suburbs

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КОМЕНТАРІ • 596

  • @GeorgeP-uj8xc
    @GeorgeP-uj8xc 23 дні тому +958

    Painted bike lanes are great for Nimbys, they can always point at them and say "See? Nobody actually wants to bike here." Meanwhile I, and many of my neighbors would love to commute exclusively on bicycle if it weren't so dangerous and poorly designed.

    • @PlaystationMasterPS3
      @PlaystationMasterPS3 23 дні тому +35

      Paint only bike lanes should be banned and only protected or fully separated bike lanes allowed

    • @JHA854
      @JHA854 23 дні тому +49

      Also as a cyclist, I often avoid these bike lanes because they are full of rubbish, large drain holes, water etc. then I get cars honking at me because I’m not in the bike lane despite it being for more dangerous than the road

    • @frankcl1
      @frankcl1 23 дні тому +6

      ​@@JHA854unfortunately this is also the case with separated bike lanes when they're underfunded

    • @Betweoxwitegan
      @Betweoxwitegan 23 дні тому +12

      What's sad is that the designers of the bike lanes know they're shit but they're forced to build them to appease the budget allocation, biking in The USA literally looks like a death sentence, no wonder nobody does it. Every bike lane should be clearly marked, colour coded and separated from the road via a barrier, preferably a tree line but even then it's so noisy on American roads which would be a deterrent but I suppose this solves itself with the adoption of bikes, public transport, EV's and perhaps hydrogen powered vehicles.
      In every video of someone biking in The USA you see illegally parked vehicles in the bike lane, drivers acting like it's not even there, the bike lane passing through a junction, etc. All of these problems are solved if you separate it from the main road.

    • @LimitedWard
      @LimitedWard 23 дні тому

      Painted bike lanes are not bike infrastructure, they're car infrastructure. They offer no protection for cyclists. Their entire purpose is to get bikes out of the way so cars can drive faster and more dangerously.

  • @guffalump756
    @guffalump756 23 дні тому +575

    Uytae out here taking his life in his hands cycling Fraser Highway to deliver premium About Here content

    • @JaydenEricBeaudoin
      @JaydenEricBeaudoin 23 дні тому +18

      Can't believe I used to ride this regularily as a teenager. Uytae rode some of the same chunks that I used to commute on.

    • @themanyouwanttobe
      @themanyouwanttobe 23 дні тому +13

      My immediate thought when he said he'd be biking in Surrey: "No! He's too precious!"

    • @wesleychaffin4029
      @wesleychaffin4029 23 дні тому +4

      It’s the type of stroad I ride on to work 😭😭

    • @firiel2366
      @firiel2366 23 дні тому +6

      Fr who needs horror films when you can just watch someone bike along that tiny little lane with SUVs and buses going by 😭

    • @JordanVegBike
      @JordanVegBike 22 дні тому

      it's nuts hey?

  • @fernbedek6302
    @fernbedek6302 23 дні тому +341

    Ottawa loves painted bike lanes on streets with 80km/h speed limits. Terrifying experience.

    • @JonnyRay82
      @JonnyRay82 23 дні тому +19

      Like the South Fraser Perimeter highway here in Surrey/Delta. Terrifying as the average person is actually driving 110+ km/h.

    • @ninjanerdstudent6937
      @ninjanerdstudent6937 23 дні тому +4

      I thought bike riders enjoy it.

    • @fernbedek6302
      @fernbedek6302 23 дні тому +22

      @@ninjanerdstudent6937 Some of us don't have death wishes and just want to get around while exercising.

    • @ninjanerdstudent6937
      @ninjanerdstudent6937 23 дні тому +2

      @@fernbedek6302 I see. Please tell me more.

    • @opliko
      @opliko 23 дні тому +3

      Lol I live in the midwest US and most of the roads I'm riding on are country roads where people drive 60+mph(100+kmh) no bike lanes, or even painted stripes in the middle or anything. Also not many cars, but I still never ride without a mirror

  • @mejaii
    @mejaii 23 дні тому +457

    Now if only Ken Sim would stop trying to delete our cycling infrastructure in Vancouver. Not everyone has a meeting room that they can stick a peloton in. 😂

    • @420greatestqueen
      @420greatestqueen 23 дні тому +52

      We need to vote him out. Unfortunately the voting rate at local elections is very low

    • @patriot9487
      @patriot9487 23 дні тому +7

      @@420greatestqueen I mean, he still bleeds

    • @cantfunction98
      @cantfunction98 23 дні тому +25

      Kens Sims audacity to turn a boardroom into a private dojo almost seems like it could be in an episode of parks and recreation.

    • @paulw152
      @paulw152 23 дні тому +31

      ​@@420greatestqueen Most people don't realize that their local mayor and city council have more effect on their daily lives than who's PM and running the country at the federal level. Unfortunately, local politics don't get enough attention. I'm hoping Sim gets booted from office in the next election! So far his term as mayor has been a disaster, but incumbents have a big advantage so there needs to be a strong candidate and a well-organized team to oppose him.

    • @adrianli7757
      @adrianli7757 23 дні тому +34

      Can we just make Uytae the mayor already

  • @betaterra3690
    @betaterra3690 23 дні тому +129

    I cycle that path you took in Surrey 4 days a week to get to work--I can confirm that I've almost died several times. The cycling path on Fraser highway between 148th and 156th is just unforgivably bad.

  • @FBWalshyFTW
    @FBWalshyFTW 23 дні тому +91

    I always appreciate the optimistic tone of these videos. That positive energy goes a long way when you're living in North American suburbia.

  • @WhiskyCanuck
    @WhiskyCanuck 23 дні тому +136

    In my neighbourhood, they've swapped the order of the bike lane & parking lane on a couple of streets (so from the outside to the middle it's sidewalk => bike lane => parked cars => then car traffic lanes). It's made a real positive impact on how safe & comfortable it is to bike & walk down those streets. I hope this catches on.

    • @jackiedulson192
      @jackiedulson192 23 дні тому +3

      This is happening in some areas of Toronto but only in some areas. Maybe in suburbs they could swap the position of grassed boulevards with the scary painted bike lanes. I know it would be expensive to retrofit, but if it were done in new developments at least.

    • @leathandris6734
      @leathandris6734 23 дні тому +4

      @@jackiedulson192 Given how little sidewalks are used why not just join the sidewalk, grass strip, and the gutter lane into one proper width mixed use path.

    • @jackiedulson192
      @jackiedulson192 23 дні тому

      @@leathandris6734 That would be ideal. On the really wide roads with wide boulevards, it would be nice to retain a strip of green, maybe with trees. Beside the multi-use (What a lovely dream!) ☺️

    • @mycatistypingthis5450
      @mycatistypingthis5450 23 дні тому +6

      @@leathandris6734 I hate mixed use paths. Pedestrians are much slower and less directionally stable than bikes.

    • @bgabriel28
      @bgabriel28 22 дні тому +2

      That's how most of the protected bike lanes are designed in NYC.

  • @TheGreaterDiscussions
    @TheGreaterDiscussions 23 дні тому +95

    It’ll be great to see the new dedicated cycle route along Fraser Hwy in a few years once the Surrey Langley SkyTrain opens

  • @abcdefghijk8223
    @abcdefghijk8223 23 дні тому +118

    Also, cycling infrastructure isn't the "million dollar question" it's actually cheap, really cheap. Cars are the million dollar (but generally billion dollar) answer.
    You could build bike infrastructure across the entire lower mainland (and a good chuck of bc) for the cost of the port mann bridge.
    The skytrain across the same area as the port mann which carries a similar number of people cost about $64.2 million in 2023 dollars, port mann cost $1058 million in 2023 dollars (doesn't include the upgrades to the highway either side of the bridge).
    That's 16x more.

    • @user-gu9yq5sj7c
      @user-gu9yq5sj7c 23 дні тому +15

      Repairs for car roads are more expensive cause cars destroy the roads more.
      Also, the expense of the more car accidents.
      Watch Not Just Bikes on how more expensive and subsided highways and suburbs are.
      Not Just Bikes has a video on how Japanese trains move millions of people per day.

    • @mindstalk
      @mindstalk 21 день тому +9

      Mayor of Copenhagen: "we built a lot of bike infrastructure after WWII because we couldn't afford car infrastructure."

    • @hhjhj393
      @hhjhj393 3 дні тому

      After doing more research, trust me humanity is doomed. We are headed for probably mass death in about 50-100 years so trust me this is the least of our worries. Humans are just stupid, selfish creatures.
      Our best hope right now is to minimize the damage humans will cause and to try and protect as many species as we can so that after the carnage the Earth can maybe heal. I don't think humans will go fully extinct but we are probably about to go through some DARK times.

  • @MKronos
    @MKronos 23 дні тому +156

    The Surrey painted bike line highway experience= the entire southern United States, especially Florida

    • @GirtonOramsay
      @GirtonOramsay 23 дні тому +18

      As a born and raised Floridian, I would only ride on sidewalks or bike paths. I'm not sharing any road with the local drivers.

    • @ThreeRunHomer
      @ThreeRunHomer 23 дні тому +7

      In the extremely suburban Lakewood Ranch development in Florida there are some very good multi-use paths that are separated from traffic. Unfortunately the network doesn’t nearly cover the whole area.

    • @arachnophilia427
      @arachnophilia427 23 дні тому +1

      as a former floridian moved to NC, i miss florida bike lanes

    • @benjamingeiger
      @benjamingeiger 23 дні тому +4

      I recently moved from Tampa to Winter Haven. While Tampa isn't great for bikes, Winter Haven is actively hostile. We don't even get painted bike gutters, and city ordinances prohibit riding on sidewalks in "business districts" (meaning anywhere more than 50% of the street frontage is devoted to business).

    • @BufordDuckworth
      @BufordDuckworth 21 день тому +1

      You've got a bike lane?! Lucky bastard

  • @timr.2257
    @timr.2257 23 дні тому +41

    As a resident of Surrey, the first time I biked to a mall for a quick errand, the bike was stolen within 15 minutes in front of the main entrance 😂

    • @lizzeh
      @lizzeh 23 дні тому +16

      This is EXACTLY what I'm talking about! Getting people safely to their destinations is only half of the problem!

    • @user-gu9yq5sj7c
      @user-gu9yq5sj7c 23 дні тому +25

      ​@@lizzehWatch Shifter on how to prevent bike theft.
      One is putting bike racks in visible areas.
      I think Japanology had a video on biking with a giant underground bike locker.
      It's good if work places had bike lockers.
      Criminals make plans on people based on observing people's daily consistent schedules.
      There needs to be good train or bus infrastructure so people aren't left stranded if their bike is stolen.
      CityNerd said he biked to Walmart and they wouldn't let him in cause he had a backpack. They told him to put it in his car which he didn't have.
      We need to stop discrimination against nondrivers too.
      I prefer walkability so I and poor people don't have to deal with bike theft or train fees or schedules.

    • @mindstalk
      @mindstalk 21 день тому +4

      @@user-gu9yq5sj7c Another option is folding bikes that you can bring with you.

  • @DanielSavageOnGooglePlus
    @DanielSavageOnGooglePlus 23 дні тому +103

    Galloping Goose as a 90s kid was S-tier

    • @lisacain3741
      @lisacain3741 23 дні тому +1

      That's where I learned to ride on two wheels! It's such a great bike path.

    • @nawewan
      @nawewan 23 дні тому +2

      Really sucked when it wasn't paved lol

    • @logankuzyk
      @logankuzyk 22 дні тому +2

      Nice and it's still S tier

  • @FutureProofTV
    @FutureProofTV 23 дні тому +388

    babe wake up a new About Here video just dropped 🥳

    • @gabrieldomocos7570
      @gabrieldomocos7570 23 дні тому +3

      Levi! Come to Canadian Civil Alive!

    • @YungStinkyWinky
      @YungStinkyWinky 23 дні тому +1

      Petitioning FutureProof to make a video about how fixedgear bikes and the ultimate future-proof vehicle with how simple they are and how good they are for your longevity and health. Even if the world ends, bikes would still be king.

    • @Coffeepanda294
      @Coffeepanda294 23 дні тому

      Overused comment

    • @mindstalk
      @mindstalk 21 день тому

      @@YungStinkyWinky "Even if the world ends"
      Where would you get new tires?

  • @Russell132
    @Russell132 23 дні тому +92

    I live in a suburb and I can either walk 15 minutes to my closest grocery store or ride my bike less than 2 minutes. I wish I could cycle more but there aren’t any bike lanes

    • @tristanridley1601
      @tristanridley1601 23 дні тому +2

      Heyyy just like me! ... And countless thousands of others.

    • @antonioiniguez1615
      @antonioiniguez1615 23 дні тому +2

      My closest grocery store is about a 30 minute walk or a 10 minute bike ride with moderate hills

    • @bikebudha01
      @bikebudha01 21 день тому

      good for you... My wife and I go to the grocery store once a week. We get 3-4 bags of grociers and 1-2 gallons of milk. Can't put that on a bike. I'm 6'-4" 230lbs, and bench 250lbs. No way I'm carrying 3-4 bags of grociers and 1-2 gallons of milk 5,10,15 blocks. The great thing is, I DON'T HAVE TO! I have a car for that. It's wonderful. You should really try it. The freedom a car gives you is truly amazing. Can't recomend it enough...

    • @antonioiniguez1615
      @antonioiniguez1615 21 день тому +10

      @@bikebudha01 You could easily fit that on a bike.

    • @bikebudha01
      @bikebudha01 21 день тому

      @@antonioiniguez1615 really, I have 5 bikes, and couldn't fit that on any of them...

  • @MrNaadi
    @MrNaadi 23 дні тому +29

    I'm fortunate enough to live a few blocks outside of Mueller in East Austin. The bike lanes are wonderful not only because they're SAFE, but because they're USEFUL. I can use them to get groceries, see a movie, have dinner and drinks with friends, get a haircut, or stop at Mueller park for a jog. Coming from a North Austin suburb (where I still tried to bike to the nearest grocery store whenever I could) it was a night-and-day difference in how it felt to cycle. It's not perfect (the bike lanes don't extend beyond Mueller and the neighborhood is surrounded by nasty stroads), but I can see the potential for something really special if/when other connecting infrastructure is built.

    • @Sporcle1
      @Sporcle1 20 днів тому +1

      fellow Austin urban cyclist here (also originally from North Austin/Cedar Park, moved to Central Austin). I love that neighborhood and I love its bike lanes. it really is quite unfortunate how it's a little bit of a bubble, whenever I want to go to the area I have to cross I35 via 51st and it's just never pleasant.

    • @scruf153
      @scruf153 14 днів тому

      better than my small city in Alabama most everyday places are in a 5 mile radius with no bike lanes

    • @MrNaadi
      @MrNaadi 14 днів тому

      @@Sporcle1 ugh I hate that crossing. Drivers get so unpredictable at the roundabout. It's further south on i35, but I've heard good things about crossing at the rock shop near Wilshire Blvd. The neighborhood streets that connect from there to Mueller are comfortable to ride.

    • @MrNaadi
      @MrNaadi 14 днів тому

      @@scruf153 No doubt, it's nice to have anything at all. But the nature of infrastructure networks means they get exponentially better the more they connect, so it's good to push for more!

  • @tem_mm
    @tem_mm 23 дні тому +38

    I love the insight into Saanich! I would've never expected a place like that to have stellar cycling infrastructure

    • @titosrevenger
      @titosrevenger 23 дні тому +8

      Greater Victoria is extremely bike friendly. It helps that you see bikes on the roads wherever you go.

    • @ottarobe
      @ottarobe 23 дні тому +4

      @@titosrevenger City of Victoria is really good and keeps getting better. Saanich is not bad and is getting better too. Unfortunately Oak Bay is still stuck in the 1950’s.

    • @JaydenEricBeaudoin
      @JaydenEricBeaudoin 23 дні тому +1

      The majority of the Capital Regional District is pretty pro-bike. One of the reasons I moved there from Edmonton, but in its defence, Edmonton is also very pro-bike, and has the longest continually running bike coop in North America, I believe. I think it started in the mid 80s

    • @Nieghorn
      @Nieghorn 23 дні тому +1

      @@ottarobe Hey now! Oak Bay has those painted lanes on Foul Bay and Fort. :D

    • @alison9189
      @alison9189 22 дні тому

      ​@@ottarobetrue!!

  • @Nieghorn
    @Nieghorn 23 дні тому +11

    Saanich also has concrete barriers separating traffic from bike lane along Tillicum, Mackenzie (which are connected by the Goose / Lochside) and are working on more advanced separation along Shelbourne at the moment. What I especially like about the design of these corridors is that not only are they direct routes but they avoid hills! Mackenzie is the gentlest route to UVic, but coming from downtown, you either had to take a long route via the Goose/Lochside or ride up some hills / weave through a neighbourhood of slower streets with a lot of on-street parking - and still have to hit a big climb or two. The separated lanes being built on Shelbourne will be a game-changer because it's flat all the way and will connect with Mackenzie.

  • @huzi990
    @huzi990 23 дні тому +24

    Uytae putting life and limb at risk to bring us more dope ass About Here videos.

  • @JBthePAdashC
    @JBthePAdashC 23 дні тому +12

    I LOVED the 90’s sitcom opening credits and theme song!

  • @noah_the_nerd
    @noah_the_nerd 23 дні тому +10

    As a subscriber and Fleetwood (Surrey) local who, just this year, began biking for my commute; I must say this video is quite the surprise! Delightful to watch, and factually sound all the way through!
    You cleanly covered the 3 main positive points I wanted to say about cycling in Surrey, so I feel I should expand upon 2 of them (for the benefit of the viewer):
    1) Hub Cycling is not merely a good educational resource, they're also a fantastic advocacy group! I recommend donating to them if you live anywhere in Metro Vancouver and want to see more cycling infrastructure in your area.
    2) Surrey Central has indeed quickly become a great place to bike around, but it's also poised to be a major hub of public and active transit in the future! It currently connects several of the bus lines in Surrey to the (soon to be expanding) Skytrain network, and has multiple new high rises being built right now. (It's still in need of a good bike shop tho)
    The positive growth we're seeing in Surrey (and North America as a whole) is thanks in no small part to channels like this; who are able to articulate the facts regarding transportation and infrastructure in such a way that everyday people feel compelled to speak up for positive change in their cities. So thank you, for all the hard work and quality videos!

    • @noah_the_nerd
      @noah_the_nerd 23 дні тому

      Besides the current infrastructure, I expect the other great hurdle Surrey needs to overcome to improve cycling is the open swaths of farmland flanked by steep hills along the Serpentine River. Despite being a very oft-used stretch to drive over (thanks to businesses in Langley), and having protected bike lanes, the geography keeps it unfriendly to cyclists.
      I expect the growing popularity of capable e-bikes will help this somewhat, but what I'm most looking forward to is the forthcoming skytrain development which will span right across!

  • @lolololol7573
    @lolololol7573 20 днів тому +2

    Great video! A few years ago I talked to an American who had absolutely no hope about any changes in US infrastructure and basically gave up. And yet here we are, people are hard at work trying to make a difference. I'm cheering you all on from the Netherlands. Even though it will take a very long time (as it did in the Netherlands, it took decades of hard work from the engineers to get where we are now), keep it up and eventually may your hard work pay off. I really enjoyed the vid too :)

  • @MirrenDerby
    @MirrenDerby 23 дні тому +6

    I found watching this video shocking and really surprising! I live in the UK and cycle around my city all of the time. It’s super normal to cycle around the suburbs here and we have some bike lanes but our cycling infrastructure is no way as good as places like the Netherlands. I’m excited and hopeful that you guys in North America can get more into cycling as it can improve the quality of life tenfold. I love that I get to be outside, exercising, I love the adrenaline of cycling. And it helps me get faster to places, especially as driving and trying to park can be quite inconvenient where I live.

  • @cheeseburger118
    @cheeseburger118 23 дні тому +7

    I live in Scarborough and bike through the intersection you showed every time I go to work. The small chunk visible in the photo (and a much longer stretch perpendicular to it) are going to be upgraded to separated bike lanes within the next year or so. I attended a public consultation for it just a couple weeks in a building visible in the photo!

  • @jameshansenbc
    @jameshansenbc 23 дні тому +5

    I enjoyed your real world cycling test in this one, and learning about Saanich! It’s great to see more protected bike lanes being built and planned, but I feel that the success of Saanich shows how those kind of separated greenways can be better catalysts for getting people on bikes than cyclelanes next to noisy roads. It’s just such a better overall experience.

  • @nelsonassis2953
    @nelsonassis2953 20 днів тому +4

    One thing I'd add whenever possible is separating the bike lanes with trees. Not only we need more trees and all, but the shade provided helps so much in those summer months. Riding from Vancouver to Porty Moody and the worst heat getting to Port Moody was from the asphalt, not the sun. Also yes, separated bike lanes please... Riding on the shoulders on Bernet Hgw with cars flying by at 80~100kmh feels awful, but gets much better as you approach downtown with slower traffic and way more bike lanes in good conditions.

  • @floriangoetz5117
    @floriangoetz5117 23 дні тому +32

    In schools we teach students valuable life skills like reading, writing, math, exercise, etc. It would be cool to see Bicycle Education incorporated into the curriculum too!

    • @milliedragon4418
      @milliedragon4418 23 дні тому

      It's better than a concept for a while. Here's a program called safety town in the USA. I volunteered one year for it when I was in highschool. But yes, Street knowledge is not knowledge. That's sacred to driver's education.
      I would. I argue that we don't do enough Street/drivers in children's education.

    • @acchaladka
      @acchaladka 23 дні тому

      We do it a bit here in Québec, there's a programme from Vélo Québec called Cycliste averti, but it depends on Foundations funding it.

    • @dominicstocker5144
      @dominicstocker5144 23 дні тому +3

      We have that in Germany

    • @latteARCH
      @latteARCH 22 дні тому

      add urban planning to that list. kids should know about developing our cities a lot younger than we currently expose them to, if at all.

  • @LiamRead
    @LiamRead 23 дні тому +25

    Best channel on UA-cam

  • @DanTheCaptain
    @DanTheCaptain 23 дні тому +6

    The absence of biking infrastructure is especially painful considering just HOW MUCH WASTED SPACE THERE IS! You could easily, EASILY have dedicated bike paths criss-crossing the suburbs but NIMBYs are just too stuck up to see any resemblance of change…

  • @aldinadauto
    @aldinadauto 23 дні тому +18

    As someone who works in this field, you were so brave for biking alongside traffic in Surrey 😭I got scared for you

    • @scruf153
      @scruf153 14 днів тому

      I cycle in those place everyday in Alabama

  • @calvinmartini6914
    @calvinmartini6914 23 дні тому +4

    This one video says everything. A great video to show stakeholders.

  • @paillette2010
    @paillette2010 23 дні тому +35

    With e-bikes volume is increasing in my rural suburbanized college town. Hills were a major factor.
    But, biking to parks, do errands, or work means you have to reconnoiter because the necessary bike infrastructure like safe riding lanes, bike racks, etc., might not be available.

    • @kailahmann1823
      @kailahmann1823 23 дні тому +11

      Yep. A recent study here in Germany found that the "short bike ride" for an e-bike is up to 15 km, in some cases even 30. So "to far to bike to the grocery store" doesn't exist any more - only bike-unfriendly roads.

    • @papa_chu
      @papa_chu 23 дні тому +1

      I am considering to get an ebike too, but I don't think city of Coquitlam/Burnaby will change soon.

  • @envoy3
    @envoy3 23 дні тому +7

    The repurposing of the train line into Galloping goose trail is such a massive win for cycling infrastructure. That trail has become a cycling destination for tourists, a daily commuter route and a casual bike ride for locals. I know many people have visited the cities along the route judt because of that path. Wish we could see more of that foresight in other cities. Build the infrastructure and the cyclists will come!

    • @Nieghorn
      @Nieghorn 23 дні тому +1

      The Goose connecting to Lochside is also amazing in that you can get from downtown to Sidney by bike and it's flat the whole way... nice to have a defunct rail line, which not every city has, but good for them to make use of it and the old E&N line for this purpose. Some places do leave in defunct rail infrastructure.

    • @Vajamjam
      @Vajamjam 22 дні тому +1

      While I'm all for safe cycling routes, you could argue it a lack of foresight to not plan for reinstated rail lines on the old right-of-ways, and it certainly was a lack of foresight to abandon them in the first place. Safe and connected cycling is great but it's even better when it can connect to high quality rail transit

  • @Wyvernnnn
    @Wyvernnnn 23 дні тому +4

    When you do the drone shot over the old railway bike path and you show that they didn't bother connecting it to all of the amenities around when it's literally right there, a few meters away...

  • @keiraferrari7764
    @keiraferrari7764 22 дні тому +2

    You also need bike racks where one can lock the FRAME of the bike to a secure structure at the destination. Most bike racks only allow one to lock one of the tires, making it extremely easy to steal a bike.

  • @jamiewellbourn3609
    @jamiewellbourn3609 17 днів тому +1

    Minor correction, the trail North of Uptown is Lochside until you get to the fork at switch bridge. From there the other directions (south and west) are the Galloping Goose.

  • @aidanmouellic5919
    @aidanmouellic5919 23 дні тому +3

    AWESOME video, as usual. A must see for all city planners and politicians.

  • @yogtheterrible
    @yogtheterrible 23 дні тому +5

    As someone who commutes to work in the suburbs all it would take for the suburbs to be more viable is for businesses to bring back their bike racks. I'd prefer other things as well, but bare minimum I need a place to keep my bike. It would be nice if some of the larger stores had secure bike lockups. It would be nice if there were more bike lanes. Separation from car traffic would be optimal. But bare minimum if I go somewhere I need to put my bike somewhere and currently I only know of one grocery store that has a small bike rack, it's out of the way and kind of sketchy and I don't want to use it. Bring bike racks inside where staff can easily see if there's someone with an angle grinder.
    I do want to say one thing though, those places shown as not great for cycling, with painted bike lanes that shares with cars...it's really not that bad. The editing makes it seem chaotic and scary but I honestly don't feel unsafe at all. I was really worried after I decided to start cycling to work but once I actually got going it was fine. The places I do feel unsafe are large roads without a bike lane, but I avoid those.
    So I want to encourage people who are considering cycling to work, or anywhere, to do it. It's likely scarier in your head than in reality. Pick a route you think works best and do a test run.

  • @jiffyb333
    @jiffyb333 23 дні тому +3

    Wonderful information! The suburbs is exactly where bikes thrive the most, cities as you pointed out can be nicer walking and using the bus due to how cramped it can be.

  • @NotJayUU
    @NotJayUU 23 дні тому +3

    In Surrey, I used to bike everywhere. I didn't have a car, and I was biking anywhere from 120-200km a week, (lots was on Fraser highway that you rode in this video). One day I was riding to lunch, and I got hit by cars twice, then on the way home a flat tire about 12km away from home... Now flat tires are a common occurrence in Surrey, but getting hit by cars twice in one trip was really the deal breaker. I bought a car and just drive everywhere now, it was really eye opening that I was not safe and that the risk I was taking was much greater than I had remembered... We still bike for recreation but just on trails or completely separated/protected bike lanes... It sucks but I'm not going to ride if I'm literally risking my life just trying to get into the office

  • @JonathonV
    @JonathonV 21 день тому +1

    If we’re being technical, Utyae, the trail from Mackenzie to Uptown that you took is actually the Lochside Regional Trail, which meets up with the Galloping Goose Trail at Uptown, which was your destination. But the point is valid that these regional trails make cycling a much more pleasurable experience in Saanich than in Surrey!

  • @user-ng3rf7wz1d
    @user-ng3rf7wz1d 11 днів тому +1

    Wales in the UK has a 20mph speed limit in urban areas. It has massively reduced road casualties and made cycling far more accessible.

  • @JonnyRay82
    @JonnyRay82 23 дні тому +3

    Great video! I live in Langley and it's nice to see more separated cycling lanes popping up. 216th street in Walnut Grove is about to get separated bike lanes. I hope more people start using them. Our main east/west artery in the neighborhood (88th avenue) doesn't even have a painted bike lane.

  • @wc4109
    @wc4109 16 днів тому +1

    Back in my college years, I cycled along busy streets without bike lanes…. I was lucky then, but now I’d be nervous riding those same streets again… We need more bike lanes.

  • @scratchcratch
    @scratchcratch 17 днів тому +1

    I just wanted to share my experience as someone living in the Blue Mountain area of Coquitlam. Suburbs can vary a lot, and for me, the main artery connecting me to the downtown core and my workplace without crazy detours and added elevation is the Lougheed Highway. Unfortunately, cycling on Lougheed Highway is truly terrifying due to the lack of proper cycling infrastructure. It would be fantastic if there were improvements to make it safer for cyclists.

  • @blt813
    @blt813 23 дні тому +2

    This definitely feels like it could be describing my suburb. A decent amount of cycling infrastructure, but absolutely no cycling NETWORK.
    A bunch of MUPs that don't connect to each other. Then a bunch of unprotected bike lanes that disappear at every. single. signaled. intersection. Precisely one road with an actual separated bike lane on one short stretch, and a parallel MUP for one other shorter stretch (at the opposite end of the road).
    It's cycling infrastructure for short and extremely local recreational cycling, not for actually getting anywhere. It's under a 5 minute bike ride to my nearest grocery store, but not a remotely safe one....

  • @alexcarrillo12
    @alexcarrillo12 21 день тому

    This channel has become one of my favorites. Great stuff. Keep it up!

  • @gabeux9800
    @gabeux9800 11 днів тому +2

    It's such a depressing fact that over 2/3rd of Canadians live in urban sprawls.

  • @kanucks9
    @kanucks9 23 дні тому +11

    Ironically, when i lived in saanich, i gave up on biking, because the route to UVIC was pretty bad.
    But they've done so much in the last 6 years or so.
    I had a friend who rode the galloping goose from saanich to esquimalt, across the inlet, and i was jealous.
    Now i ride to work sometimes, but crossing the alex Fraser bridge isn't all that stress free.

    • @JaydenEricBeaudoin
      @JaydenEricBeaudoin 23 дні тому +1

      The Goose is such an awesome path. Especially connecting to Lochside. Biking to the ferry has never been easier. If only the Lower Mainland would put cycling infrastructure on their side

  • @aidanknight
    @aidanknight 23 дні тому +1

    Glad you enjoyed my neighbourhood! Saanich, while it has a ways to go, is going to be a great place for cycling in the future. We just need to start reducing the 4 lane stroads cutting through the areas where dense housing will be in 25 years, and putting in AAA cycling infrastructure.

  • @BlackTheEngineer
    @BlackTheEngineer 23 дні тому +1

    Love the bike bus idea, my daughter is only 1 but I’ll look into something like this in my neighborhood of Colorado when the time comes

  • @alanmcinnes1111
    @alanmcinnes1111 23 дні тому +1

    Thanks for another great video, Uytae. This is such an important topic. In an effort to use my car less, I am shopping for an electric bike to get my aging body up the local hills. I agree that protected bike lanes need to be the norm if we ever expect families to ride bikes. The Galloping Goose bike trail is a fabulous experience and I wish that we had the equivalent here in Surrey.
    I think it would be an interesting topic for a video to explore the growing impact of electric bicycles on transportation as they can flatten the hills and enable seniors like myself to continue cycling.

  • @Ashley-xu1lk
    @Ashley-xu1lk 23 дні тому +1

    Very happy to see a new video!
    I agree with the survey results that not having the skill and knowledge and the safety issues being a deterrent to ride a bike as an alternative for some trips. Painted bike lanes are not enough, I would want either a large division between the bike lane and cars or a completely separate bike lane. Especially if it's surrounded by trees.

  • @JonathonV
    @JonathonV 21 день тому +1

    I’m a cyclist who works in Saanich (and lives less than 100m from the border of Saanich). Cycling really is the best method of commute for me. Driving a car would mean that I’d have to go around the massive Cedar Hill Golf Course, which has several busy intersections around its corners, whereas a bike path lets me cut through it and saves me probably 25% of the time. Taking the bus is far worse because the only routes require me to walk to the end of the block and take two buses that ultimately make a V shape, taking around 30 minutes, when I can get to my work in 12 minutes by bike. I have to cross some busy streets, but there are designated crossings.
    There are some cracks in this perfect cycling utopia, though, and most of them are centred around Shelbourne Street, a main thoroughfare that is currently closed for construction. That’s led to people taking residential roads as detours, which has made some roads that are usually safe to bike on seem a lot more treacherous. There are also some places where the bike lane just inexplicably ends, such as patches on Cedar Hill Road (one of the roads that people are using instead of Shelbourne). But overall, I can’t complain. It really is easy to get by by bike in this city.
    Thanks for the video!

  • @bencoelho3
    @bencoelho3 23 дні тому +1

    Thanks for this video. I can relate to it a lot. I live in Melbourne Australia, and I ride an electric scooter (not a bike, sorry) and I greatly enjoy it. But the biggest issue is the lack of dedicated paths. We add lanes & lanes & more lanes to our freeways and devote very little time and money to our paths.
    Also, I love that thing about the 'Bike Bus' that is very cool!

  • @Paper_and_Light
    @Paper_and_Light 23 дні тому

    Great video! Some sweet drone shots here. I love cycling around Vancouver, but when you hit those lane with just the painted line...yeah, it feels like a miracle you make it out unscathed.

  • @BeyerEfendi
    @BeyerEfendi 18 днів тому +1

    What you point out in the video is something I've often found to be true in the suburbs: cycling is possible, but whenever you hit a stroad (which is often), things get tense because it's usually just you and a painted bike lane (or nothing at all) and drivers get quite close without really caring. Some even have this weird animosity toward bikers (I'm looking at you, massive pickup truck dude who never hauls anything) and will actively try to mess with you.

  • @ScottRycroft
    @ScottRycroft 23 дні тому +2

    Saanich mention! Instant upvote!

  • @ALButtsy
    @ALButtsy 23 дні тому +1

    Awesome Uytae! My wife will start her biking commute to her new job in Halifax from the Dartmouth suburbs next week so... wish her luck. Great music choices btw :)

  • @danachos
    @danachos 23 дні тому +2

    The demand is there! We want to cycle! Please cities like Surrey and Laval, give us the option to commute by bike/foot safely and enjoyable! Please!

  • @TheNormalUniverse
    @TheNormalUniverse 12 днів тому

    lovely video. In your section about why we should accomodate biking, don't forget all the people without driver's licenses need to get around too! (kids, seniors, disabled, intoxicated, etc...)

  • @densitydad
    @densitydad 22 дні тому

    Such a timely video! With families feeling the crunch of the rental housing market for 3 bd apartments within the city, this offers hope that with a little research, one can still find a neighborhood that finds that balance with a cargo e-bike.
    I imagine an e-bike would have helped your ride even more so glad you used an "acoustic" for an easier, more accessible option to getting started.

  • @lizzeh
    @lizzeh 23 дні тому +2

    Even if the traffic safety problems were solved it's still too unsafe to ride your bike anywhere because the pervasive bike thefts. I heard a story from a retail employee about how one of their customers had their bike stolen when it was locked outside in only a 15 minute duration inside the store. And recently someone smashed open a locked windowed door at my place of work to unsuccessfully attempt to steal my ebike. It happened on a Thursday around 2pm, on a workday, during store opening hours. I don't even own a lock so I won't get tempted to lock it outside. I literally only park it inside locked buildings and even that isn't enough of a deterrent. I get people on the street yelling at me about how they would like to "have my bike" (in a "I would like to steal it" way not a "Hey cool where can I buy one" kind of way). I only commute to and from work with it, but it would be nice to be able to park it at a store and shop some day....

    • @mindstalk
      @mindstalk 21 день тому

      One approach is a folding bike, which you can bring with you. Zizzos cost $200-400.

  • @conorkrystad4634
    @conorkrystad4634 23 дні тому +1

    Another banger, keep up the good work.

  • @jmajcan
    @jmajcan 23 дні тому +1

    I love this channel, especially now that I’ve moved to Vancouver

  • @Mjora
    @Mjora 23 дні тому +1

    I've been enjoying the bike lanes around Surrey central! Great improvements

  • @JordanVegBike
    @JordanVegBike 22 дні тому

    Another fantastic video! The contrast between what safe, accessible infrastructure is like vs. when cities just slap some paint down on people-hostile streets is so clear. I hope Surrey can the regional lead on this and make some big moves here, especially since City of Vancouver/ABC seems to be intent on actually moving backwards.

  • @peteedwards417
    @peteedwards417 23 дні тому +1

    Love seeing the Saanich props. Lochside trail is also amazing.

  • @ryangaskin4938
    @ryangaskin4938 10 днів тому

    First time watching one of your vids. As a lifelong Fraser Valley resident, seeing you brave Fraser Hwy on a bike is more than enough to earn a sub from me.

  • @cloudyskies5497
    @cloudyskies5497 17 днів тому

    Gradual replacement of trips is so crucial. I moved to a city that had bike infrastructure. It took me six years of gradually replacing everything with walking, cycling, and transit. The last two years my car sat in my paid parking spot, because I was still worried I might need the car for safety. When I sold that car, I didn't want to have to turn around and buy another. I wanted to sell it and know I was okay without it. Great video.

  • @user-zt3pl6mt3e
    @user-zt3pl6mt3e 23 дні тому +1

    I wish there was a Gallopping Goose in every city!!! Another awesome informative video uytae

  • @thedoanerz
    @thedoanerz 22 дні тому

    Omg the fear in your eyes in that Surrey ride. Stay safe~ great video btw. Always learning about my home town.

  • @erikk7643
    @erikk7643 17 днів тому

    Holy shit! Fraser hwy looks so scary. And I ride parts of Kingsway in Van. Another great video, Uytae. Thank you for all your hard work

  • @TheXtrafresh
    @TheXtrafresh 5 днів тому

    Houten was designed from the ground up to make all local trips much easier to do by bike, while out-of town trips are better by car. There's also a train connection to Utrecht 4 times an hour from two stations. Even here in the Netherlands it's a bit of an anomaly. Frankly, I think it's fantastic.

  • @lyssasletters3232
    @lyssasletters3232 23 дні тому

    Thank you for the optimism

  • @svr5423
    @svr5423 13 днів тому +1

    I usually don't take my bicycle inside the big city.
    Suburbs and small villages are great to get around with the bicycle. So you don't need the car for local traffic that is beyond walking distance.
    And of course, riding your bicycle in nature is the most fun.

  • @MatthewPape
    @MatthewPape 5 днів тому

    As someone who used to commute to City Centre by bike from South Surrey, I can say there are great bike lanes in Surrey. There's a BC Hydro right of way near 128th Street and others that run west to east from City Centre to Langley. The problem from what I experienced is quick, safe, and easy access to these routes. Way finding, protected lanes, lighting and more routes connecting North to South Surrey would be very helpful.

  • @MrRollingEgo
    @MrRollingEgo 23 дні тому +1

    The bike bus was so cute!!!

  • @vancouversworstdrivers
    @vancouversworstdrivers 23 дні тому +2

    I would be more concerned about getting my bike jacked in Surrey or Vancouver

    • @ontariorob1400
      @ontariorob1400 23 дні тому

      Yes, exactly. It's nice to safely get to your destination but lock your bike in Surrey and it's gone in 30 seconds.

  • @SoidHoid
    @SoidHoid 22 дні тому

    Great video. So many videos are about how we need to densify to make cycling more attractive. Sure, it's still not great for walking but this video was a great argument for suburbs being find for riding.

  • @thermodynamicist
    @thermodynamicist 11 днів тому

    One thing that unites many suburbs is very wide streets, which makes adding wide, well protected bike lanes a lot easier than in denser cities with older narrow streets. I believe in great cycling infrastructure everywhere (and I think we should sacrifice parking in city cores to get it) but the argument could easily be made that the suburbs are the best place to start.

  • @bigdaddytwochinz
    @bigdaddytwochinz 23 дні тому +2

    uytae thank you for making my day

  • @sinatrabone
    @sinatrabone 23 дні тому

    The music in this video is on point! Well done!

  • @harishsrinivasan5249
    @harishsrinivasan5249 23 дні тому +2

    Amazing video, thank you!

  • @ianbarr4716
    @ianbarr4716 18 днів тому

    Absolutely fantastic video here. Thank you.

  • @t-bone8378
    @t-bone8378 16 днів тому +1

    I would like to have separate bike lane / bike path away from traffic preferably a nature bike path for everyone to enjoy all around the USA! Happy biking !

  • @crush3095
    @crush3095 14 днів тому

    what a gorgeous bike frame you have

  • @9amStudio
    @9amStudio 12 днів тому

    you're sooo right!

  • @Brick-Life
    @Brick-Life 15 днів тому

    The best part of the video is the comparison ride of the 2 places. Its similar to a 2018 video comparing Vancouver and Halifax.

  • @scitails
    @scitails 17 днів тому

    The main street of my downtown where I go to do laundry just repainted the road a couple days ago. They went from two lanes to one on each side of the road and added a bike lane (albeit not in the green that lanes in the area otherwise are, so hopefully they'll add that later, it had confused at least one person I talked to). The middle turning lanes are also better-marked now. I think the point of the change was to add distance between the cars and the sidewalk (I had seen an article a while back talking about them trying to make the area safer for kids on the sidewalk, etc.), so the right lanes were turned into parking lanes. I was very impressed driving through it.
    Of course, when I talked to others who drive in the area, they all seem to hate it. The first person I talked to was talking about how it's slower/more congested now, and how since many of the new spots are perpendicular to the road, this requires backing in that stops traffic. Another said the only way to fix the area is to add a big parking garage, that we need a lot more parking. I think someone else commented that they just avoid it now because of how hard it is to park there.
    For the first person, I was able to explain the benefits at least a little bit, and she seemed to appreciate that I was the first person to have something positive to say. But the traditional suburban people don't naturally want or understand design which doesn't benefit traffic flow. And of course, no one considers the possibility of using public buses to access restaurants in these areas instead of car, which is the obvious solution to parking difficulties in the area for locals who go there for the restaurants and bars. On the bright side, I did see someone using the bike lane while I was using the laundromat there (I hadn't seen anyone bike in that part of town before), and for the first time, I felt inspired to walk to a nearby bakery while there. That bit of separation from the cars really did feel nice.

  • @djpetesake
    @djpetesake 18 днів тому

    Well said!

  • @turtlemcturtleson
    @turtlemcturtleson 16 днів тому +1

    I wish biking was a common thing everywhere, and I've made a what I find to be a shocking realization, but also not too shocking, but I find biking in rural areas so much better than in cities/towns (In NA). Where I'm at, I'm in a somewhat rural area, but not all that rural and it's about 40mins to the nearest town on bike. When I ride my bike to a specific place in that town, I can navigate rural back roads and just pop up right behind the store or stores that I'm wanting to go to without having to ride on any busy or main road at all. I always imagined cities would be way better for biking even with a lack of biking infrastructure, but I've definitely changed my mind on that.

  • @hellowatsupo
    @hellowatsupo 23 дні тому

    i feel like ive watched a lot of urban transportation videos but this is def one of the best ones ive seen. nice work!
    I've lived in areas both like Surrey and Saanich. I'm a pretty brave/risky bike rider so I'm comfortable with painted bike lanes but I've found that convincing the majority of people to ride even next to slow moving traffic is difficult. Over the past couple of years my mindset about how to get better cycling infrastructure has changed significantly. I used to think that having more riders and demand will force cities to build good infrastructure but that's just clearly unreasonable (just as you've described). Even for myself, I got a car and realized how much my mental health and motivations to run errands actually got better because I wasn't always in a high stress mode on the road (extremely ironic I know as car accidents are so common and distracted drivers are the worst).
    I try so hard to not be doomer about this reality and sometimes watching these types of videos makes me more doomer. But you've done a great job of highlighting ways to promote real change (bike education programs, group rides, and community building) that reassures me that I'm doing the right thing for the world I want to see. I really encourage people to look for and volunteer for local groups doing the work at a grassroots level - searching on social media specifically instagram has worked best for me

  • @nelsonassis2953
    @nelsonassis2953 20 днів тому

    Love your videos! :)

  • @erso3302
    @erso3302 10 днів тому +1

    Most back yards have a few bicycles rotting away in them. That's because most people want to ride, so they buy a bike, and after riding a few times, they realize they hate near death experiences.

  • @tristanwolff2136
    @tristanwolff2136 23 дні тому

    I live in the area you biked! I totally agree, Surrey infrastructure isn't orientated for anyone, but with the skytrain extension coming hopefully new bike and walking routes can be added.

  • @smeggysmeg
    @smeggysmeg 21 день тому

    Here in Fayetteville, Arkansas, they LOVE the little paint line next to the gutter. The bike lane on the highway in this video is twice as wide as my city's bike lanes. We have some dedicated multi-use trails, but all but 1 aren't well-connected to amenities, and few are connected together.

  • @GirtonOramsay
    @GirtonOramsay 23 дні тому +1

    Surrey is basically my San Diego suburb. We are only just now getting some reasonable bike infra, like a buffered bike lane on a busy residential road that spans the entire city. I just ride on that bike lane and hop on sidewalks on the stroads.

  • @nigelmccomb8106
    @nigelmccomb8106 6 днів тому

    The city of Surrey has a “bike to work week” . One Saturday I was cycling from south Surrey to Caps on Scott rd and while cycling along hwy 10 I came across a big sign mounted on a trailer advertising bike to work week. The problem was that it was positioned in the bike lane forcing cyclists into the busy traffic to proceed around it. It says a lot about the city of Surrey and their understanding of cycling.

  • @mr.hi_vevo414
    @mr.hi_vevo414 22 дні тому

    I'm glad people are really looking into this stuff. I remember seeing Amsterdam's bike parking lots and being reminded of regular vehicle parking lots, and how much space it takes. Just like how cars don't make sense in suburbs but make sense in rural areas, I think bikes don't make sense in very dense areas, but make sense in suburbs. Dense areas need strong public transport and pedestrian infrastructure as bike storage and infrastructure can take up a lot of space. I think it would be awesome to see more bike infrastructure and parking in the suburbs near Skytrain stations, as they have more space for parking than in the city centers. This would also spread out the burden of storage across the Skytrain line instead of one concentrated spot downtown.
    One concern I have is the difficult to navigate hills in Vancouver. I think ebikes would be a great solution to this problem, even if these ebikes are weak with low range, so long as they can make hills feel like level ground, that should be enough to enable many more people to use bike infrastructure. Heavy subsidies for the elderly and disabled would be helpful to allow more people to use this infrastructure.

    • @mindstalk
      @mindstalk 21 день тому

      Cambridge MA believes that 14 bikes can fit into the space of one curbside parking space (they have mobile bike racks they deploy in the spring), though the bikes have to get very friendly with each other. 7 bikes would be easy.
      Bikes make sense in Tokyo and Osaka, which are pretty dense. Not for all trips, but they're mostly used for short trips anyway. Tokyo does fancy underground bike vaults at major train stations. OTOH a lot of bike parking in Osaka was "stand your bike up here"

  • @Phanyxx
    @Phanyxx 19 днів тому +1

    Richmond is surprisingly good to bike around. So much potential there. (And it's flat!)