Doom II: Sunder - Map 32 (The Harlot's Garden) UV-Max in

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  • Опубліковано 4 лют 2022
  • Runner: Zero-Master
    Date: 2022-02-04
    IWAD: Doom2.wad
    PWAD: Sunder 2407.wad
    Category: UV-Max
    Map: 32 (The Harlot's Garden)
    Source Port: DSDA-Doom v0.22.5
    Time: 1:08:28
    Description:
    The first UV-Max of this level, because the only other person to do this level ignored a cyberdemon even though they frequently fall down and are easily dealt with in such cases.
    Lost two attempts at the final fight. The first one I took 6 mancubi fireballs in about 1-2 seconds trying to push through that did 336 damage before I got killed by a 7th hit. I could have taken between 48-384 damage from those 6 hits, so a bit unlucky with 336. I didn't feel bad about it, forgot to pick up some health vials anyways, not that they are necessary of course.. Then the second attempt which I did on the same day as this successful run some similar stuff happened, but I had enough health to grab the last megasphere. But max health doesn't really last long when you take a completely random cyberdemon rocket. I couldn't see the rocket past all the corpses so I didn't even notice it before it hit me. I guess after the luck I had an hour into map 15 I had to pay for it here.
    Sunder map16 route is mostly done, the map is really long and a completed run should take somewhere around 2 hours, hopefully just under it. It's not looking as bad as I thought it would be, I think the last sections are easier than the final fight of map32, but on average it's more difficult and it's significantly longer. I've had ammo issues in practice so I'm afraid of running low near the end as well.
    Comments about the run:
    Went mostly as expected with exception of the final fight.
    For the final fight I took a lot of damage again trying to get through the mancubi.
    Then I nearly died when I had to push through the cacodemons, didn't have much choice as my ammo was running low and I didn't want to take damage going for cells on the left side.
    Nearly died at the very end to a surprise cyberdemon, somehow I just didn't see him and I had to just go for it as I was afraid I'd get hit by something else or bump into a wall if I backtracked.
    Route/Strategy:
    pastebin.com/27E9kwrP
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 185

  • @Dollar_Store_Cacodemon
    @Dollar_Store_Cacodemon 2 роки тому +65

    I honestly find a map like this more impressive than most new games that come out these days. What talent and creative vision to come up with something like this that has its basis with an engine from an old sequel that came out in 1994!

    • @MeatSim64
      @MeatSim64 Рік тому +1

      With WADs like Sunder and Eviternity(and more) plus mods for this 1994 game will never get stale.

  • @Xarx3s
    @Xarx3s 2 роки тому +60

    The double take at 39:50 is gold.

    • @a1s972
      @a1s972 2 роки тому +5

      Hah the missile went through that gap in the wall

    • @T3sl4
      @T3sl4 2 роки тому

      Rev missile is a significantly more welcome surprise than the one from a couple maps ago :o)

    • @BGTournaments
      @BGTournaments Рік тому +1

      i thought i was the only one who was gonna mention it. then i came to the comments lol!

  • @_antares031
    @_antares031 2 роки тому +33

    With this rate, Zero Master is going to do a UV-Max run of Sunder MAP30, even before it's designed

  • @Fillduck
    @Fillduck 2 роки тому +20

    Zero Master is always so incredibly calm even when he is at critical health

  • @crimsonsmoke
    @crimsonsmoke 2 роки тому +39

    I didn’t expect this one so quickly. The final room is an absolute bastard. Well done mate :)

    • @danielmiller3781
      @danielmiller3781 Рік тому

      The final room will get your heartrate (and perhaps blood pressure) up for sure.

  • @dwah1986
    @dwah1986 2 роки тому +12

    That cyberdemon near-miss at 1:07:06 scared the shit out of me, your heart must have been pumping :O

  • @tenhundredkills
    @tenhundredkills 2 роки тому +49

    I LOVE the design of this map. It looks like somewhere that actually could exist in real life, but with thousands of demons! Sure, Sunder's incredible abstract designs are gorgeous, but this less abstract map really takes the cake, IMO.

    • @sgtcoffman
      @sgtcoffman 2 роки тому +4

      My only complaint at all is that it is slightly too dark for me. I had a tough time seeing what was going on in the plaza outside of the mansion.

    • @tenhundredkills
      @tenhundredkills 2 роки тому +2

      @@sgtcoffman Fair point. I've played a few WADs that I had to tinker with them to be able to see correctly. Usually, you can change the brightness and/or contrast settings within the game to fix it. I'd also check your monitor's color and brightness settings to see if that helps.

    • @costco_pizza
      @costco_pizza 2 роки тому

      @@tenhundredkills Absolutely. It is almost like I am in a movie or something. Very realistic graphics!!!

    • @edwells4769
      @edwells4769 Рік тому

      @@costco_pizza is the last movie you saw from 1960?

  • @doomerrasa8475
    @doomerrasa8475 2 роки тому +17

    The midi is called "aorta", and it was originally for some kind of doom project called "panophobia". It's yet another standout pairing in sunder. The hearbeat effect (when the soundfont works properly) is amazing.
    Oh and the run was good too.

    • @estefencosta1835
      @estefencosta1835 2 роки тому +2

      Anymore awesome midis from that project? This is one of my favorites I've seen in doom.

  • @jikissgamer
    @jikissgamer 2 роки тому +19

    My all-time favorite Sunder map. It's so good to finally see a full Demo of this monster of a map. If anyone can do it it's definitely you. This will be very fun to watch. Congrats on the run!

    • @prboomerjuice7348
      @prboomerjuice7348 2 роки тому +4

      It's really weird watching ZM do these. I associate him more with iwad speedruns, so just seeing him burn through new Sunder is surreal. How many linedefs will be skipped in 19?

    • @jikissgamer
      @jikissgamer 2 роки тому +3

      @@prboomerjuice7348 Same! I think the first time I heard of Zero Master was from the 2016 Plutonia Nightmare speedrun. I can't wait to see how he handles map 19

  • @humanbeing_
    @humanbeing_ 2 роки тому +7

    GG ZM.
    Best way to start my Saturday morning. Wake up, brush teeth, look at my phone, notice new Zero Master Sunder video --> Grab my coffee and enjoy the next hour+
    Ingenuously clever strategies. Especially in the maze. The routing is pretty linear overall based on the map design, but many of the line-def skips and fight tactics I haven't seen anyone else execute/implement. Wouldn't expect anything less from you. 👍

  • @F1stzz
    @F1stzz 2 роки тому +14

    This one gives me huge "Heretic" vibes rly: great job by devs and thnx to you for bringing this up 👍🏻

    • @F1stzz
      @F1stzz 2 роки тому +6

      @@soulsphere9242 wow, that's cool to know! Dude totally has a style 👌🏻

    • @FamilyGuyRoks6
      @FamilyGuyRoks6 2 роки тому +9

      @@F1stzzthe mapper is INSANE_GAZEBO and I love his style and level design so much, I take inspiration from his levels' characteristics when I make maps!

    • @DinnerForkTongue
      @DinnerForkTongue 2 роки тому +3

      @@F1stzz
      The creator, Insane Gazebo, has also contributed to the recent mapset Haste. It's worth checking if you like his style.

  • @jamesgillum9604
    @jamesgillum9604 9 місяців тому +1

    fantastic and impressive map, amazing soundtrack, and every monster handled professionally, really good stuff

  • @sunvieightmaster88
    @sunvieightmaster88 2 роки тому +10

    This is some dedication, Zero Master.

  • @ablayhappy8969
    @ablayhappy8969 2 роки тому +8

    Oh Yeah! Doom 2 Sunder, Map 32. I love this walkthrough!

  • @marcelopardo4791
    @marcelopardo4791 2 роки тому +8

    Yes!!!! The mansion one!! Thank you !! Zero senpai!!, This is my favorite Sunders map, thank you so much for uploading this, freaking cool!!!

  • @deathshade8611
    @deathshade8611 2 роки тому +3

    Ahhh yeah! And I get paid at work to watch this! Double win!

  • @mono4643
    @mono4643 2 роки тому +2

    39:34 That Pinkie was relentless. Tried to kamakaze Zero Master then took two face rockets like a champ!

  • @invalid6681
    @invalid6681 2 роки тому +1

    Came accross ur channel after my mom told me about the classic doom series, like your stuff man gj 👍

  • @dhirendrapsingh6758
    @dhirendrapsingh6758 2 роки тому +2

    Informative. Useful. Calming. Inspiring. Life-changing. Enjoyable. Heart-warming. Other.

  • @TheCyberDruid
    @TheCyberDruid 2 роки тому +5

    Every map is a relevation about how hard you can push the limit. Well done!

  • @insanegazebo
    @insanegazebo 2 роки тому +76

    Ridiculous :)
    I kept thinking by the time I get map21 done you'd still be going, but at the rate you're going that's looking less likely!
    Also, because I'm curious, who actually noticed the reversed bloodfall texture in the final room?

    • @ZeroMaster
      @ZeroMaster  2 роки тому +35

      Yeah it helps that I can do attempts for one level while I work on the route for the next level which is a different experience, so it's easy to keep motviation up which means I get things done :D

    • @a1s972
      @a1s972 2 роки тому +18

      I had other things on my mind during the final room tbh

    • @insanegazebo
      @insanegazebo 2 роки тому +17

      @@a1s972 Pizza?

    • @a1s972
      @a1s972 2 роки тому +14

      insanegazebo definitely

    • @nl3paul3nl
      @nl3paul3nl 2 роки тому +3

      How long does it take to create a map like this?

  • @rendfall
    @rendfall 2 роки тому +3

    That nasty bodyguard baron at 1:02:59! He wanted to push you off right to the pit! :O

  • @cybergothika6906
    @cybergothika6906 2 роки тому +1

    One of the most beautiful maps, music and map name I have seen. It totally demands some back story. Waiting for the day for high quality maps to blend with some progression.

  • @bbloodjh
    @bbloodjh 2 роки тому +3

    I've been waiting for your new run!!

  • @reptongeek
    @reptongeek 2 роки тому +2

    Another excellent run. Your UV maxes are the only ones of this WAD I can watch from beginning to end without a break
    A 2 hour UV max for a single map is just crazy! For comparison that's as long as it took Starduster to complete all of Scythe!

  • @plats5837
    @plats5837 2 роки тому +6

    YES!

  • @anthonymentalewicz5143
    @anthonymentalewicz5143 2 роки тому +3

    I've been waiting for this.

  • @slim_pickins
    @slim_pickins Рік тому +1

    That last fight was god dang terrifying to watch. I knew he would make it, but still was flinching and squirming the whole time!

  • @jaymxu
    @jaymxu 2 роки тому +5

    Another treat! ^^

  • @TheDoomerBlox
    @TheDoomerBlox 2 роки тому +4

    The layout of this map really reminds me of some old Invasion maps, humourously not all that different in gameplay either - with all the constant monster-teleporters. : - )

  • @TheWeebinar
    @TheWeebinar 2 роки тому +1

    You know at some point an incredible wad like this should get the Final Doom treatment and be released in it's entirety on major consoles. At any rate the person responsible for this deserves to be paid. Sunder is simply marvelous.

  • @kopfdertoten466
    @kopfdertoten466 Рік тому +1

    It never ceases to amaze me how good that DOOM can look.

  • @maxidejf
    @maxidejf 2 роки тому +4

    Beautiful run of what is a hard level even by Sunder standards! Cheers! :)

  • @youngsplitterr
    @youngsplitterr 2 роки тому

    I really like watching your videos. All of the infighting is very satisfying. Agitate them and then let them deal with it amongst themselves.

  • @GeorgeTaylor-ux7bq
    @GeorgeTaylor-ux7bq 9 місяців тому

    This Doom game looks amazing brother keep up the awesome work

  • @catstealer419dominion7
    @catstealer419dominion7 Рік тому

    The map aesthetics make up for the last couple of blocky earth tone dull maps. The music is a banger too.

  • @Gleanerizer
    @Gleanerizer 2 роки тому +1

    39:52 I can relate. Damn sneaky Revenant missiles

  • @thalligator016
    @thalligator016 Рік тому

    everything about this is absolutely impressive. the map, the gameplay, the atmosphere and this goddamn flawless run

  • @mja2317
    @mja2317 2 роки тому +1

    One of the most beautiful maps ever made. Also hard as rusty nails. Congrats Zero Master. This one can't have been easy.

  • @danielja1832
    @danielja1832 2 роки тому +2

    Well done!

  • @shoryuken0x
    @shoryuken0x 2 роки тому +1

    Beautiful castle masterpiece

  • @IrishSteve6997
    @IrishSteve6997 2 роки тому +1

    Plasma gun just sitting there in the garden.
    Everyone else - gimme that.
    Zero Master - nah, got to make it at least a little challenging

  • @nassera
    @nassera 2 роки тому +4

    what a beautiful map

  • @Final-Ts
    @Final-Ts 2 роки тому +3

    Fantastic run man, I was really looking forward to this one! You dispatched those archies and cybers in the hedge maze like a BOSS!! Very methodical and precise! The final platforming area was extremely impressive -- so many people choke in that area.
    Also, I love the music in this level...
    1. because it was written specifically FOR this level and
    2. because it's one of the longest midi's I've ever heard in a doom wad before it repeats.
    EDIT: I stand corrected, the music wasn't written for this level but is awesome none the less.

    • @jikissgamer
      @jikissgamer 2 роки тому +1

      This map is still the first one to use this Midi as the project it was originally composed for was never released.

    • @Hyalyago
      @Hyalyago 2 роки тому

      @@jikissgamer What was the name of the project?

    • @jikissgamer
      @jikissgamer 2 роки тому

      @@Hyalyago It was called Panophobia

  • @DiamantisGR
    @DiamantisGR 2 роки тому +2

    I don't know what to say anymore. This map, that last fight... wow. Also, those demons truly were trapped in that maze with you.

  • @craigratio
    @craigratio Рік тому

    Making it look easy as always. Mad how quickly a normal player would become overwhelmed by most of these fights. Brilliant as always.

  • @MsfPW89
    @MsfPW89 Рік тому

    Haha that Pinky at 12:50. Manages to bite you and you deliberately turn around to bfg him even when you were completely past the pinkys already :D

  • @johneygd
    @johneygd 8 місяців тому

    It was an absolute enjoyment to watch😁

  • @elbray4n735
    @elbray4n735 2 роки тому +1

    Man that's an amazing run!!
    I just realized that Zero Master do care about 100% of items

  • @defenderandoom7833
    @defenderandoom7833 2 роки тому

    This map is crazy, wow !! Very impressive gameplay.

  • @UNDFTDGordon
    @UNDFTDGordon Рік тому

    So many monsters there was slowdown on new hardware. Incredible. I love it.

  • @JuicedMelons
    @JuicedMelons 2 роки тому +2

    Yes!! ive been waiting for this one

  • @sashkastepashka
    @sashkastepashka 2 роки тому

    That rocket flying through bushes is epic 39:47

  • @kurtkurtnes6857
    @kurtkurtnes6857 2 роки тому +2

    Sinnsykt bra jobbet mann! Mauler gjennom mammut-mapsene! :)

    • @ZeroMaster
      @ZeroMaster  2 роки тому +2

      takk :)

    • @dmitriyg1030
      @dmitriyg1030 2 роки тому

      Is it Norwegian?) So, for the rest world ZeroMaster is like Magnus Carlsen, but in Doom

  • @GeorgeTaylor-ux7bq
    @GeorgeTaylor-ux7bq 9 місяців тому

    This Doom looks fun to play

  • @Superior0805
    @Superior0805 2 роки тому

    This map is really masterpiece of level design! And the gameplay is really impressive. I can't imagine that anyone can play doom 2 like this without TAS.

  • @captaintoyota3171
    @captaintoyota3171 2 роки тому +1

    Seriously this guy makes me wish i was good at games. Ever since i saw doom 1 on release ive loved it. Wish ID spent more time with modding scene but thank the all powerfull mind of our time John Carmack for releasing source code

  • @Legatron17
    @Legatron17 2 роки тому +1

    Honstely, this map and Babylon's Chimera are one of the best maps I've ever seen

  • @40ozpunker
    @40ozpunker 2 роки тому

    What a map...and of course run. I can't believe zero crushes it the way he does

  • @waterbreak
    @waterbreak 2 роки тому

    Incredible, I thought this map is impossible to uv-max, I'm excited you proved me wrong.
    I'm surprised you're mostly done with map16 as well, really look forward to your run.

  • @BohdanS15
    @BohdanS15 2 роки тому

    Great map, great midi, great speedrunner.

  • @Legatron17
    @Legatron17 2 роки тому +1

    39:50 that missile though xD

  • @jamez6398
    @jamez6398 2 роки тому +2

    Glad you decided to do map 16, don't suppose you'd take a crack at 19 🙂

  • @SamuelGarcia772
    @SamuelGarcia772 2 роки тому +1

    The design and arquitecture of this level is honestly off the charts! I wonder how much time did it take for the mappers to finish it, it's so complex and full of detail.

  • @GeorgeTaylor-ux7bq
    @GeorgeTaylor-ux7bq 9 місяців тому

    Incredible indeed

  • @nitinhalankar264
    @nitinhalankar264 3 місяці тому

    Hats off to Zero Master - True Doom Pro !!!

  • @BilltheFifth
    @BilltheFifth Рік тому

    Incredible

  • @erickbirkin3622
    @erickbirkin3622 2 роки тому

    Every man has a story... But only one, is a legend...

  • @ericwesley6343
    @ericwesley6343 2 роки тому +1

    That revenant rocket around 39:45! 😂

  • @popgas3821
    @popgas3821 2 роки тому +2

    Bruh, I'm crying 😭. This map is a pain.

  • @valaha
    @valaha 2 роки тому +3

    Another one hour from my life? 😮 WHY NOT? Its ZM!

  • @a1s972
    @a1s972 2 роки тому +8

    Jeez. I wonder what time you will get on map 18

  • @Rik2BitNothing
    @Rik2BitNothing 2 роки тому

    Absolutely incredible! Makes my doom playthrough im doing look so absolutely pathetic haha

  • @antonperseus7964
    @antonperseus7964 2 роки тому

    Der Himmel sieht stark aus!

  • @horst_gott
    @horst_gott 2 роки тому +4

    Haha, that utter look of disbelief when the revenant missile looped through the seethrough hedge in the maze. I think the same thing happened to decino.
    How would you rate this one in difficulty? A walk in the park/ garden?

    • @ZeroMaster
      @ZeroMaster  2 роки тому +7

      everything except for the start and the end is no problem, but because of those parts it's more difficult than map 15 and 31 at least, so the garden part is a walk in the park :)

  • @AndyJourney
    @AndyJourney 2 роки тому

    39:50 - 39:52 Damn, that had to be the trolliest revenant missile ever!

  • @MatheusGomes-ej3mr
    @MatheusGomes-ej3mr 2 роки тому

    unbelievable

  • @intoxikado_7858
    @intoxikado_7858 2 роки тому

    Muy bueno 👏

  • @mk3Howitzer
    @mk3Howitzer 2 роки тому

    A god among men.

  • @DasPanoptikum
    @DasPanoptikum Рік тому

    If you are not wanting to watch the whole thing, watch at least ten seconds starting from from 39:47.

  • @The1RandomFool
    @The1RandomFool 2 роки тому +1

    I only play casually, and the garden is easily the most frustrating fight in the whole map for me. The next big fight after that is a close second. Once I found a good killing route (pretty much the same as yours), the final fight isn't that bad.

  • @Jacco_Prins
    @Jacco_Prins 2 роки тому +2

    At around 28:50 you did a linedef skip right by hugging the wall in the maze to hit the first switch, so that hellknights, revenants and demons don't teleport in but only the archviles and cyberdemons? I noticed that and when you return to that switch you cross that linedef so all the monsters teleport but not have to worry about archviles and cybers because they are already dead. Great strategy 👊

    • @T3sl4
      @T3sl4 2 роки тому +1

      I wonder if it's worth putting in multiple triggers or oddly angled triggers, to force sequence. It's not like gazebo isn't watching.
      Nah... more fun watching Zero's crazy routes and setups. :D

    • @Jacco_Prins
      @Jacco_Prins 2 роки тому

      @@T3sl4 It is lol. same as map 16 Whispers of the Gnarled King. The final battle there can be made much easier. When riding up the elevator just don't step of onto the final room but instead jump back on the stairs that also go to the same room, but jump high enough so you will be above the linedef on the stairs and also when stepping of the elevator into the room that will trigger the final fight. When doing that you will have a better chance to win.

  • @Dollar_Store_Cacodemon
    @Dollar_Store_Cacodemon 2 роки тому +1

    I wonder if Gazebo took loose inspiration for this map from Redneck Rampage's Beaudry Mansion level? I'm getting similar vibes here and there. Could obviously just be coincidence, of course.

  • @KoD83
    @KoD83 2 роки тому +1

    Noice! I wonder if you'll play Alien Vendetta with the new MIDI Pack, lol

  • @leoneldoleschal1194
    @leoneldoleschal1194 2 роки тому +2

    I love the way this map is made up cheese this looks like really really hard hard one, and may ask Herr Zero Master do ya ever be scared when ya got below 15HP?

  • @garethdean6382
    @garethdean6382 2 роки тому

    GEEZ. I just... Wow. How did you...

  • @bummbrotha1065
    @bummbrotha1065 Рік тому

    god damn bruh how is this even possible

  • @HmmHmm-ve7ou
    @HmmHmm-ve7ou 2 роки тому +3

    Yeah, low ammo will quite an issue in latter Sunder levels, and especially in MAP19 (Highly likely that you will leave Cathedral arena with little to no ammo)

    • @kinetic03
      @kinetic03 2 роки тому

      I beg to differ ;D. Ammo isn't super tight in that map as long as you don't waste much and rely on infighting more often than not.

    • @HmmHmm-ve7ou
      @HmmHmm-ve7ou 2 роки тому

      @@kinetic03 In general around map, yes. In cathedral arena - no. In this arena ammo is very tight even if you relay on infighting.
      Or maybe it's mine flashbacks how I savescumed my way through Sunlust, entered this arena with almost full backpack of ammo and left it with barely any ammo at all

    • @kinetic03
      @kinetic03 2 роки тому +1

      @@HmmHmm-ve7ou I happen to be running the map, there's more than enough ammo for the fight, can exit the fight easily with full ammo across the board. I assume we're talking about the cathedral fight with the switches you can hit to spawn bees and cybers in

  • @BabySkinCondom
    @BabySkinCondom 2 роки тому +4

    you beat this map in an hour LOL don't tell decino!

  • @Optimus6128
    @Optimus6128 2 роки тому

    Slaughtermaps are the ones I want to explore with -nomonsters

  • @mArt1And00m3r11339
    @mArt1And00m3r11339 2 роки тому

    I noticed that at the end of this play through, the title of the map says "House of Corrosion" instead of "The Harlot's Garden".

  • @CaMypau
    @CaMypau 2 роки тому +3

    I wonder how many tries it takes to make a successful run of such a large and difficult map? And were there attempts, that you failed near the end?

  • @MrDdGANGER
    @MrDdGANGER Рік тому

    I wish current doom was more like this

  • @Darteghoster
    @Darteghoster 2 роки тому

    This map even have a gazebo

  • @nazaren45
    @nazaren45 2 роки тому +1

    👍

  • @musthavechannel5262
    @musthavechannel5262 2 роки тому +1

    39:49 haha, whaaat...

  • @respectfulremastersbymetal8336
    @respectfulremastersbymetal8336 2 роки тому

    The music in this one is great! It sounds like Dimmu Borgir covering Princes of the Universe.
    Serious question for Zero Master: Are there any Doom maps you actually can't beat? (Like legit maps, not silly joke maps or whatever)

  • @pnsdkrpndja12177
    @pnsdkrpndja12177 2 роки тому +5

    is it required to grab all the items to call it a uv max?

  • @yawg691
    @yawg691 2 роки тому +1

    39:52 ARE YOU KIDDING ME LOL

  • @andreadelcortona6230
    @andreadelcortona6230 2 роки тому +1