I had to wheelie into the jump and get the perfect timing for mine to backflip but I did get 3-4 of them on purpose! It don’t look real “scale” but it’s a backflip lol. I used a small kicker and hit the throttle for a wheelie just before it hits the ramp. Flips fairly easy.
@@ExocagedRC yeah it would be cool if there was a way to bypass the gyro for an instant just for tricks. I even tried flipping my flywheel off just before hitting the ramp etc. Nothing really worked well lol. Can’t wait to see what upgrades you do to this one!
Since stock transmitter is only 3ch. There's some internal channel mixing for the front brake.. Try binding to your dx5c with firmware update and then put rear brake on separate channel
You could try it with a different radio/reciever without the gyro, see how it rides & it will 100% for sure be able to get that backflip. Just for testing purposes 😆
@ExocagedRC Yeah I'm saying a different radio without the gyro, just to see if it's possible to drive it without all the technical limitations. The flywheel would still run as normal programmed to another channel on the test radio. Can always go back to the stock radio afterwards. I use to drive my Nitro Ducati RC street bike before gyros even existed, and it didn't even have a flywheel lol
I have an older model RC bike which I'm able to unplug the gyro's black/red cable (male JST plug) and plug it into any channel on the receiver to power it up. Maybe you can find a way to power up the gyro on a independent mini 2s lipo or plug it into your receiver like it did. I think its pretty fast on a 2s 👍. Time to upgrade mines. 😂
That wasn’t a backflip. It was a looped out wheelie-tap off the lip of his totally deformed ramp. Total luck. He couldn’t repeat it if he HAD to. Not giving it to him.
To run with the gyro off the wheels need to be much heavier. I used to race 1/5 superbikes with no electronic or gyro assistance they work exactly as a full size bike does. When you get the supermoto tyres try it on a smooth surface with the gyro of again you will need to push start and keep it moving at a reasonable speed .
Maybe you might be able to switch out that gyro for a 3S capable one? I have an X-rider bike. And, it is 3S capable. The gyro in it is rated for 3S. Maybe that's an option for running 3S?
What if they made something the looks like a “snowboard” to replace the stability “balls” ?? That way on the soft surfaces it wouldn’t dig in ?? That way you could race it on the loose stuff
Excellent, when I saw your last review I was hoping for it to go to the ExoPlex. When you had it wide open and it was ripping down the dirt road it was awesome. Interesting take on it you had, I had not thought about flips and such. My jaw was still on the floor that we now have this is it's bad@$$. Humm, yeah I can see with the gyro how is would make some of the tricks a bit tough. I just want the v2 to have a moving rider with tiny servo's lol so when your lighting it up he will stand and such. I know I know, be thankful for what you got haha but hey. They did this, they can do that too!
They are tuff, just upgrade that front frame part and give it heaps. I also snapped the thread off the shock But considering the pounding it took repeatedly The bike's definitely worth buying. I even built a adjustable take off ramp and landing Mount a small camera and you can enjoy viewing playback 👍
Can you level correct in air so you don’t land hard on the front if you come off the ramp front heavy? Like throttle hard mid air to bring up the front like you do with bashers
I can't for the life of me understand why they couldn't have a gyro off mode and this is what 8 figured would happen. People would want to start doing fun jumps and sadly can't so it will get boring quick
Turn gyro off as you approach the ramp. 2fm had it almost. Probly the gyro up grade kit might be the key. Love how you're trying it so I don't have to waste mine😂🎉🎉🎉
Maybe for the backflip attempts on those larger ramps put some carpet on there for traction to let the back tire bite and try doing it with the gyro effect turned up and down?
I definitely do understand the bikes doing it’s best to fight against a backflip tho lol. Driving it with the gyro disabled probably won’t get too far.
I would imagine that the massive amount of RIDER INPUT involved in backflipping a real motorcycle would eliminate the possibility of doing that trick with an R/C bike, even one as awesome as this. Great video!! Thanks.
@@TheAmericanUhate nah. We’ve all seen what happens when the rider doesn’t make the right body moves and thinks going wide open can save him. Lol. He falls on his head. While applying brakes has a very large effect on bike attitude in mid-air, whacking the throttle has a very minimal effect by comparison. Not none, just not enough to rotate the full mass of the motorcycle (which is carrying two gyros) over the top and back to some kind of reasonable angle for landing.
@videditorEB1 You're talking about a panic rev when the jump has already went wrong and it's too late to do anything to save it. The throttle for a backflip starts on the take off and gets the rotation started and stays going in air. Travis Pastrana has done tons of sitting backflips with no body movement based 100% on throttle. Even off tiny little jumps
@@TheAmericanUhate sitting on the seat is not remotely the same as “no body input”. You figure his head and upper body are just static on takeoff?? Uh..no.
@videditorEB1 It can be done rather you think so or not. There is literally no body movement needed with the correct amount of power & rotation on take off. The gyro cutting power is the only thing stopping it.
If you could control front and rear brakes independently you could do stoppies and rear drift entering corners, maybe! That thing is cool, shame it is so expensive...
I think the wiggle it does after it hits the ground and bounces means the gyro is set too strong. Same if it’s wiggling around in turns or on rocky terrain… almost like how maxing out TSM/AVC throws you off when you go too fast or try to jump it
hate to say it but it looks like it will get boring after a little while that you dont realy have that much control of the bike it seems like the flywheel drives it for you
Should save your money and buy a toy dog that barks then flips over when you wind it up. I hope the bikes will be raced.. because that's what they are.. but NO 'reviews' are doing that.
You only physically steer a motorcycle in your intended direction at very low speeds. Once you're above 10mph you quickly transition to actually pushing the bars slightly left to go right, and right to go left. Steering becomes a combination of lean angle and your tire's contact patch. It's all called "counter-steer" and it's amazing how Losi got the gyro-electronics to work so well.
I had to wheelie into the jump and get the perfect timing for mine to backflip but I did get 3-4 of them on purpose! It don’t look real “scale” but it’s a backflip lol. I used a small kicker and hit the throttle for a wheelie just before it hits the ramp. Flips fairly easy.
yeah I have done it by accident but couldn't get past the gyro on my ramps.
@@ExocagedRC yeah it would be cool if there was a way to bypass the gyro for an instant just for tricks. I even tried flipping my flywheel off just before hitting the ramp etc. Nothing really worked well lol. Can’t wait to see what upgrades you do to this one!
Great stuff 💯
I think a forward flip can be done if you have more speed.
yeah for sure
@EXOCAGE RC When's the vitavon parts coming just broke the front plate
I've been watching your videos on this bike, and you look like you're having way too much fun. I have to try and get me one.
What will it do on 3S?
no, the main drive esc is 3s capable but not the flywheel esc.
@@ExocagedRC what’s the worst that could happen, SEND IT!!!
Since stock transmitter is only 3ch. There's some internal channel mixing for the front brake..
Try binding to your dx5c with firmware update and then put rear brake on separate channel
You could try it with a different radio/reciever without the gyro, see how it rides & it will 100% for sure be able to get that backflip. Just for testing purposes 😆
This radio and receiver is programmed for this bike, as in the firmware. The DX5 can run it AFTER a firmware update.
@ExocagedRC Yeah I'm saying a different radio without the gyro, just to see if it's possible to drive it without all the technical limitations. The flywheel would still run as normal programmed to another channel on the test radio. Can always go back to the stock radio afterwards. I use to drive my Nitro Ducati RC street bike before gyros even existed, and it didn't even have a flywheel lol
I have an older model RC bike which I'm able to unplug the gyro's black/red cable (male JST plug) and plug it into any channel on the receiver to power it up. Maybe you can find a way to power up the gyro on a independent mini 2s lipo or plug it into your receiver like it did. I think its pretty fast on a 2s 👍. Time to upgrade mines. 😂
Matt over on his channel 2FM RC ...... did a back flip . He did it with a small steap ramp and hit it in a wheelie and it worked.
That wasn’t a backflip. It was a looped out wheelie-tap off the lip of his totally deformed ramp. Total luck. He couldn’t repeat it if he HAD to. Not giving it to him.
What if you hit the breaks just as you leave the ramp, or hit the ramp in a wheele and just at the point of leaving the ramp put the front wheel down.
To run with the gyro off the wheels need to be much heavier. I used to race 1/5 superbikes with no electronic or gyro assistance they work exactly as a full size bike does. When you get the supermoto tyres try it on a smooth surface with the gyro of again you will need to push start and keep it moving at a reasonable speed
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Will this run without the gyro on?
4:43 He tried in this video and it didn't work well at all lol
@@EJ-74 yes I saw that. I should've waited till the end to comment.
@@brianbouley2117 😂 Right lol
There's a video a guy got his to back flip
yeah 2fm rc
Maybe you might be able to switch out that gyro for a 3S capable one? I have an X-rider bike. And, it is 3S capable. The gyro in it is rated for 3S. Maybe that's an option for running 3S?
Not sure where these will go but they will be insane soon. Now that the world has them
BAD sounding click at 5:30.
yeah it still runs
Is the front breaks strong enough to do a indo
nope
What if they made something the looks like a “snowboard” to replace the stability “balls” ?? That way on the soft surfaces it wouldn’t dig in ?? That way you could race it on the loose stuff
Can it run without turning on the SpinWheel? Maybe then it could flip?
it can be done but not easy
I watched a video yesterday and they were able to back flip. Not sure how tho.
Can I use a lipo 7,6HV Battery?
Excellent, when I saw your last review I was hoping for it to go to the ExoPlex. When you had it wide open and it was ripping down the dirt road it was awesome. Interesting take on it you had, I had not thought about flips and such. My jaw was still on the floor that we now have this is it's bad@$$. Humm, yeah I can see with the gyro how is would make some of the tricks a bit tough. I just want the v2 to have a moving rider with tiny servo's lol so when your lighting it up he will stand and such. I know I know, be thankful for what you got haha but hey. They did this, they can do that too!
I'm sure more bikes will happen, they have to right?
Really cool I hope to get one soon by the way can I do jumps easy as you show us ?
They are tuff, just upgrade that front frame part and give it heaps.
I also snapped the thread off the shock
But considering the pounding it took repeatedly
The bike's definitely worth buying.
I even built a adjustable take off ramp and landing
Mount a small camera and you can enjoy viewing playback 👍
Dude I want one of those sick bikes.
by stunts you mean CRASHING....lol
of course
How did you not break anything! Im sold on this things durability now
Can you level correct in air so you don’t land hard on the front if you come off the ramp front heavy? Like throttle hard mid air to bring up the front like you do with bashers
Definitely fun to watch! Great job!👍👍😁😎✌️
Looks so good when your carving corner's spraying sand!
Hope you dont break anything. Cant order any parts now and new bikes wont be avalible for a month or so.
And with bikes when you want to go right you actually turn left a little bit to get the bike to start turning right.
Have you tried running it without the driver? Ol floppy head fella might make a difference too.
Man, this thing screams open source firmware... too bad the big boys in the RC car world don't get it
whip it
I can't for the life of me understand why they couldn't have a gyro off mode and this is what 8 figured would happen. People would want to start doing fun jumps and sadly can't so it will get boring quick
yeah keep the flywheel on, keep the steering gyro on but turn throttle gyro off.
So this is the must have RC This Summer? 😮
Looks EPIC 👍😲😆
It's just a lot in this economy
No, not a must. Only July & new stuff comes out every month.
Turn gyro off as you approach the ramp. 2fm had it almost. Probly the gyro up grade kit might be the key. Love how you're trying it so I don't have to waste mine😂🎉🎉🎉
Maybe for the backflip attempts on those larger ramps put some carpet on there for traction to let the back tire bite and try doing it with the gyro effect turned up and down?
I definitely do understand the bikes doing it’s best to fight against a backflip tho lol. Driving it with the gyro disabled probably won’t get too far.
That baby looks stellar flying through the air❤❤❤
I’m surprised they didn’t consider people trying to backflip. Maybe a dedicated button to shut off the gyro mid air or something.
One upgrade I haven't heard mentioned yet is adding a sound kit to it.
Not much room for a speaker though.
Lets Do This 🔥
I think as soon as you leave the ramp if you lock the front and back break it should definitely do a front flip! 🤔
he did that and it didnt work?
@@Mckhusthere is no front brake i think
I would imagine that the massive amount of RIDER INPUT involved in backflipping a real motorcycle would eliminate the possibility of doing that trick with an R/C bike, even one as awesome as this. Great video!! Thanks.
Should still be possible with throttle, but the radio has a gyro in it that cuts throttle/applies brake before it can get the rotation
@@TheAmericanUhate nah. We’ve all seen what happens when the rider doesn’t make the right body moves and thinks going wide open can save him. Lol. He falls on his head. While applying brakes has a very large effect on bike attitude in mid-air, whacking the throttle has a very minimal effect by comparison. Not none, just not enough to rotate the full mass of the motorcycle (which is carrying two gyros) over the top and back to some kind of reasonable angle for landing.
@videditorEB1 You're talking about a panic rev when the jump has already went wrong and it's too late to do anything to save it. The throttle for a backflip starts on the take off and gets the rotation started and stays going in air. Travis Pastrana has done tons of sitting backflips with no body movement based 100% on throttle. Even off tiny little jumps
@@TheAmericanUhate sitting on the seat is not remotely the same as “no body input”. You figure his head and upper body are just static on takeoff?? Uh..no.
@videditorEB1 It can be done rather you think so or not. There is literally no body movement needed with the correct amount of power & rotation on take off. The gyro cutting power is the only thing stopping it.
With this being the best thing a manufacturer could’ve done, i don’t think they took into account people would want to backflip it…
I'm sure they did, BUT if anyone were to 'mod' it TO flip, HH would void the warranty.
@old-rcplane-phart1780 People uses warranty on RC's?
Thank you for pushing the limits great ride
Hey man once you start modding it id love to see what it takes to put aftermarket radio in it and setup the modes. I like my nb4 too much.
If you could control front and rear brakes independently you could do stoppies and rear drift entering corners, maybe! That thing is cool, shame it is so expensive...
I think the wiggle it does after it hits the ground and bounces means the gyro is set too strong. Same if it’s wiggling around in turns or on rocky terrain… almost like how maxing out TSM/AVC throws you off when you go too fast or try to jump it
In my world, anything that looked cool and didn’t break anything qualifies as ‘I did that on purpose’
Losi/Horizon gyro upgrade……$399😂😜😜. Seriously tho are the spokes in the rim bent yet?
Would be cool to see this moto on an rc track where the jumps have landings like real motocross tracks have.
They did such a great job making that piece 👏 👌 🙌 👍
2fm rc figured out the back flip
hate to say it but it looks like it will get boring after a little while that you dont realy have that much control of the bike it seems like the flywheel drives it for you
Should save your money and buy a toy dog that barks then flips over when you wind it up.
I hope the bikes will be raced.. because that's what they are.. but NO 'reviews' are doing that.
we don't have enough of them out yet. 3-4 of my local guys have them ordered, when they all get here we will race them
You only physically steer a motorcycle in your intended direction at very low speeds. Once you're above 10mph you quickly transition to actually pushing the bars slightly left to go right, and right to go left. Steering becomes a combination of lean angle and your tire's contact patch. It's all called "counter-steer" and it's amazing how Losi got the gyro-electronics to work so well.
Yea it’s super subtle riding a bike yourself. If you watch in slow motion this thing counter steers harder than any human would 🤣
@@V8chump Possibly because WE don't have a 10+ pound flywheel spinning linearly at 22,000 RPM to compensate for.