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КОМЕНТАРІ • 302

  • @VitorBarriosLuis
    @VitorBarriosLuis 4 роки тому +213

    Rest in peace Mr. Gitlis. May you bless the heavens with your wonderful playing from now on.

    • @HTFilms7
      @HTFilms7 3 роки тому

      Is he in that though?

    • @peyonveerakul5525
      @peyonveerakul5525 3 роки тому +1

      Sir Gitlis is not yet dead sir

    • @VitorBarriosLuis
      @VitorBarriosLuis 3 роки тому +4

      @@peyonveerakul5525 unfortunately, yes, he is.

    • @gabylr2742
      @gabylr2742 Рік тому +3

      Je crois qu'il est éternel dans nos cœurs 😊

  • @mignonnekim6527
    @mignonnekim6527 3 роки тому +66

    A song of life only a 95 year old violin master can tell.. it's like he's telling a story. Love Gitlis!

  • @YWu-ze1op
    @YWu-ze1op 2 роки тому +28

    It’s like when you are old, sitting in the quite afternoon sun and almost fall asleep. As you dozing off, you start to think of the youthful time spent with the love of your life whom somehow you lost along the way. You still remember how beautiful she was and how happy the moment was with her, yet you can never find her again.

  • @yyse
    @yyse 3 роки тому +13

    הביצוע הזה מרגש בכל כך הרבה רבדים ורמות, שאפילו קשה להסביר ולפרט עד הסוף את התחושה שהוא מעורר..
    אני אנסה בכל זאת להביע כמה מהתחושות בכמה מילים:
    עברי גיטליס, הוא לבטח אחד מגדולי הכנרים בכל הזמנים. אגדה מעוררת מחלוקת מן הקצה אל הקצה, יש שיאמרו הכנר הגדול מכולם, גדול אפילו מיאשה חייפץ, ויש שיאמרו כנר קטסטרופלי עם פרשנות לא מקובלת, כוחני גברי אגרסיבי עצבני מהיר מספספס תוים ומשנה מקצבים קאובוי סגנון צועני ועוד...
    והנה כאן הוא יושב בסוף ימיו הארוכים שבהם מעולם לא עזב את הכינור ומעולם לא חשב לפרוש, כי הוא מעולם לא תפס את הנגינה כמקצוע, אלא כחיים עצמם, ובחיים יש זמנים טובים יותר ופחות, ויש זמנים שאתה חזק ויש שבהם אתה נחלש, הכינור כמעט התאחד איתו והוא תיבת התהודה של הלב הגדול - הוא יושב ומנגן וכמעט אומר קדיש על עצמו...
    הניגון מספר על חייו בערגה ואט אט חייו קמלים ונעשים איטיים והנשימות האחרונות נשמעות ודפיקות הלב האחרונות עד שנדם ומת.
    הניגון יש בו השלמה ורוך, ואין בו עוד הכח והפראות שאפיינה כל כך אותו, ויש בו כניעה, והרבה שריטות והפנים והקמטים והשיער והעיניים העצומות אומרות הכל.
    סיפור של חיים ומוות
    קדיש..
    יהי זכרו ברוך..

    • @yatskan
      @yatskan Місяць тому

      יפה כתבת.

  • @michelecherchi154
    @michelecherchi154 5 років тому +104

    He still has the best vibrato on the planet. I love you Gitlis.

    • @soleaguirre100
      @soleaguirre100 4 роки тому +1

      michele cherchi Yes 👌🏼👋🏼😊

    • @Brenglezote
      @Brenglezote 4 роки тому +5

      the crying vibrato. i like it and always try to do it

    • @peyonveerakul5525
      @peyonveerakul5525 3 роки тому +1

      Me too and his vibrato always makes me cry even when he’s 80 years

  • @philipnorris6542
    @philipnorris6542 4 роки тому +47

    R.I.P. Ivry, now safe in the hands of the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob.

    • @HTFilms7
      @HTFilms7 3 роки тому +1

      Is he though?

    • @MT-xt
      @MT-xt 7 місяців тому +2

      @@HTFilms7 calm down

  • @videochannel9278
    @videochannel9278 7 років тому +138

    Who says this is a sad performance, than i would add, this is exactly what this song needs. Yes, he is 95 in this play, some physiological parts are not maybe in a best shape, but the more extraordinary feeling.. Indescribable

    • @dannyboy2267
      @dannyboy2267 4 роки тому +3

      I agree with everything but I don't think it's a song, I'd call it a piece :)

    • @videochannel9278
      @videochannel9278 4 роки тому +2

      @@dannyboy2267 Thanks for enriching my vocabulary

    • @videochannel9278
      @videochannel9278 4 роки тому +2

      But what i really wanted to say that some people feel, it's not about the physical age.

  • @christianec.ariosa899
    @christianec.ariosa899 5 місяців тому +4

    Oh, my.. ❤ Nearly 10 years ago my violin teacher said: "Ah, Ivry Gitlis, that silly old man..." And I answered: "You arrogant young man will NEVER have that feeling and melt in your violin playing like Ivry Gitlis! What a role model!!! As a violinist and at his age!!! I saw him playing J. S. Bach with an arm bandage! He's incredible and wonderful and you will NEVER reach him!!!" Rest easy in Heavenly Peace, dear MASTER!" THANK YOU FOR EVERYTHING ❤❤😊😊

  • @anujjjss
    @anujjjss 6 років тому +117

    I know this isn't the best performance by Ivry Gitlis or the best version of Sicilienne, but this rendition is overloaded with expression and has heart. To me, this is what musical pieces should be, imperfect yet expressive. Missed notes often become identities of certain timeless greats. This is one such performance.

    • @gittujoy
      @gittujoy 5 років тому +3

      You are 💯 % True😍

    • @dong-hotsai5386
      @dong-hotsai5386 5 років тому +1

      Yes, I totally agree !!!

    • @daniel3231995
      @daniel3231995 4 роки тому +6

      I look for creativity in performances not perfection. Something that tells of their soul.

    • @sfbirdclub
      @sfbirdclub 4 роки тому +20

      Beethoven said it best: "To play a wrong note is insignificant; to play without passion is inexcusable."

    • @brandonchai9318
      @brandonchai9318 4 роки тому +1

      You are right. This was beautiful... It sounded so melancholic...

  • @JDBoot
    @JDBoot 4 роки тому +28

    Tears. The most beautiful accompaniment of the photo album of my wife Marike's passing.

  • @frankrault3190
    @frankrault3190 4 роки тому +49

    Gitlis makes this music sound as if it came from all ages, beyond any time. There's love in it, vulnerability, wisdom, joy, and timelessness.
    You see some people feeling touched. Not because he's an old man, but because he reveals something that not many can reveal. As for that, his age might be helpful, I guess...

  • @RamSadeh
    @RamSadeh 7 років тому +69

    So fragile and still so powerfully moving.
    Heart Breaking Beautiful Gitlis

  • @Cuervo.AOE2
    @Cuervo.AOE2 11 місяців тому +6

    Sin duda esta es la mejor versión que esta obra. La interpretación de Irvy es desgarradora y llena de emociones, como si sus 95 años se reunieran todos en ese momento e intentaran contar una gran historia.

  • @mogmason6920
    @mogmason6920 4 роки тому +22

    This sounds so much like an old recording that has been restored in HD!
    I love it!

  • @aroncavassi4044
    @aroncavassi4044 4 роки тому +29

    One of my idols, next to Heifetz, Stern or Milstein!
    Nobody is playing nowadays with this honesty...sad fact.

    • @soleaguirre100
      @soleaguirre100 4 роки тому +2

      Aron Cavassi absolutely agree with you his talent is wonderful!

    • @haroldlabrique608
      @haroldlabrique608 4 роки тому

      You should have a look to Alma Deutscher playing her own violin concerto...

    • @user-lawniac
      @user-lawniac 3 роки тому +1

      This is a different kind of overpowering comparing to Heifetz, I totally agree with you

  • @QuynhNguyen-oz6zi
    @QuynhNguyen-oz6zi 4 роки тому +24

    Oh my... I have no idea he's still playing until now. Great recording. More fragile than he was in his prime, but his trademark sound is still there, now only added with a gentleness that could only be gained with age.

  • @harryford6689
    @harryford6689 4 роки тому +24

    Like Horowitz, perfectly imperfect, and one of the most beautiful things I've ever heard

    • @soleaguirre100
      @soleaguirre100 4 роки тому +3

      Harry Ford in fact Ivry says “ I don’t like perfection “ l like with heart ! 👌🏼😊

    • @marcofornaciari3042
      @marcofornaciari3042 4 роки тому +1

      Bravissimo, lei ha detto una cosa nella mia opinione molto giusta e bellissima

    • @sebastiandangerfield9933
      @sebastiandangerfield9933 3 роки тому

      Horowitz would never allow himself to play in public like this. Very sad.

    • @harryford6689
      @harryford6689 3 роки тому +3

      @@sebastiandangerfield9933 he did, many times

  • @joyyyy6014
    @joyyyy6014 5 років тому +48

    i feel sad and happy at the same time, this is weird...

  • @cygnusne
    @cygnusne 5 років тому +35

    Very moving!! He talks through his violin!!!!! Amazing musician!!

    • @HTFilms7
      @HTFilms7 3 роки тому

      Wait what? How do you talk through a violin????? You're lying at this point mehahhaha

  • @soleaguirre100
    @soleaguirre100 4 роки тому +7

    l was the placer to be with Ivry last february is one of the most beautiful person l meet in my life his sense of humour and of course his talent is unbelievable! Thanks excellent concert! 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼🌱

  • @familieblenderman1832
    @familieblenderman1832 Рік тому +5

    Heart breaking, left me with tears in my eyes. Every emotion in 4minutes. In music there is no GOAT, but Ivry was unique! Rest in peace mr. Gitlis, I love you.

  • @KwanghoonChoi
    @KwanghoonChoi 4 роки тому +10

    Beautiful! His violin sounds like himself very much.

  • @thegachanrecorder2988
    @thegachanrecorder2988 4 роки тому +15

    Rest in peace Gitlis, your music will be remembered forever.

  • @chewbacca7670
    @chewbacca7670 2 роки тому +6

    The colors and phrasing in his playing transcends music beyond a listening experience

  • @rociolumieredelune
    @rociolumieredelune 4 роки тому +7

    He reminds me so much of my teacher (may he Rest In Peace) he was 93 and playing Bach fugues for me, and repertoire of course but the fact that to that age he would remember every note even though physically he was old is just... amazing and you guys can’t imagine this people’s huge heart and devotion to music to keep doing all at that age

  • @yashinattack
    @yashinattack 5 років тому +16

    Love is giving a message in his music, it's just an miracle happened.

  • @rosgill6
    @rosgill6 4 роки тому +6

    awww he just passed? Such a wonderful spirit and talent. Rest well, good sir

  • @jubilee7086
    @jubilee7086 4 роки тому +3

    I first got to know him on the radio today. I fell in love. From today I am a fan of him.Rest in peace ...

  • @dianal.1279
    @dianal.1279 5 років тому +10

    What a wonderful thing to be contemporary of such an artist. What a privilege!

  • @mfkaamer
    @mfkaamer 5 років тому +15

    when the violin breeze and talk like a living thing. this guy and his violin are one.

  • @vincentvalenti9176
    @vincentvalenti9176 4 роки тому +3

    L'ecouter a tellement pu me rassurer, apaiser mes doutes, quand j'avais même du mal à faire semblant de trouver du sens au quotidien... Sa musique nous réconcilie avec notre humanité

  • @winglow7615
    @winglow7615 6 років тому +10

    He was one of the many violinists I admired. Sad to see his physical condition, but the music came through.

  • @crescendolaurevianneizhar3889
    @crescendolaurevianneizhar3889 4 роки тому +1

    My hero!!! Een van de beste violisten ooit. Eigenzinnig, authentiek, muzikaal en altijd recht naar het hart. Een icoon uit vervlogen tijden. Inspirator en een groot mens.
    RIP Master, dank voor wat je aan schoonheid in de wereld hebt bijgedragen. Je kunt nu in de hemel duetten spelen met Kreisler, Menuhin, Oistrach, Milstein, Ida Haendel en Heifetz en al die andere grote helden. Wat zullen ze blij zijn met jouw komst!

  • @李君毅-m7x
    @李君毅-m7x 5 років тому +40

    95!
    Bravo!
    never die.

  • @ichsanwin3219
    @ichsanwin3219 6 років тому +20

    The best thing in this is i can feel the emotion

  • @chickennugget1569
    @chickennugget1569 6 років тому +153

    You people who say he isn’t a good musician don’t actually know music .

    • @meichuanglin741
      @meichuanglin741 6 років тому +3

      You’re soooooo right. Joseph is soooo selfish

    • @alpddar2518
      @alpddar2518 4 роки тому

      Who said that?

    • @rociolumieredelune
      @rociolumieredelune 4 роки тому +1

      People that say that are just full of envy.

    • @nickdavis965
      @nickdavis965 4 роки тому +13

      They do know music. However they do not know its true meaning "playing a wrong note is insignificant, playing without passion is inexcusable" -beethoven

    • @lawrencewhyte1554
      @lawrencewhyte1554 4 роки тому +1

      At this time he was an old man it just doesn’t sound the same as his earlier playing

  • @charlesmbyrd
    @charlesmbyrd 5 років тому +14

    Great shape for his age. Fantastic performance.

  • @momos1076
    @momos1076 4 роки тому +3

    So pure, beautiful, and touching.. it’s like his music is reflecting his soul.

  • @matthiaswalther3617
    @matthiaswalther3617 3 роки тому +3

    Die Legende am Bogen. Man könnte meinen er hört nie auf und spielt immer noch. Ich kenne keinen, der mit 95 noch so gespielt hat.

  • @jacquelinefrick3699
    @jacquelinefrick3699 4 роки тому +6

    Juste extraordinaire il va nous manquer !!!

  • @dunduff
    @dunduff Місяць тому

    Beautiful and incredibly moving.

  • @luizcarloscarvalhoalmeida3091
    @luizcarloscarvalhoalmeida3091 2 роки тому +7

    Parabéns Ivry Gitllis um dos maiores violinistas de todos os tempos, essa música é o meu exercício de todas as noites no violino, só o fato de tentar tocar com os efeitos de arco, vibrato, É velocidade me deixa muito feliz, obrigado pelo legado que deixaste.

  • @thehaloscrolls391
    @thehaloscrolls391 4 роки тому +5

    My dad knew him for over 10 years, Rest In Peace

    • @HTFilms7
      @HTFilms7 3 роки тому

      Rest In Piece yourself noob

  • @WomanViolinMaker
    @WomanViolinMaker 7 років тому +53

    Tears up my heart...

  • @skyko
    @skyko 7 років тому +18

    So gentle yet overflowing passion

  • @richardsagala3186
    @richardsagala3186 6 років тому +13

    the music is totally free and captivating

  • @wengkeong8393
    @wengkeong8393 5 років тому +17

    Open your heart and let the music move you

  • @robinshen8364
    @robinshen8364 11 місяців тому +1

    Unbelievable. Simply amazing.

  • @FransvanderLeeuw
    @FransvanderLeeuw 4 роки тому

    en wat een aanstekelijke humor en levenslust nog.... jaloersmakend!

  • @tanjanovicic2926
    @tanjanovicic2926 5 років тому

    Gospodin Ivry je fantastican violinista.To se zove zivot pun smisla.Sve najbolje.

  • @shigeoshigeo9977
    @shigeoshigeo9977 5 років тому +7

    He is like a god!
    Really heart shaking!
    Bravo!

  • @hoffmanncatherine7547
    @hoffmanncatherine7547 4 роки тому +3

    Merci Maître vous fesiez parler votre Violon comme personne🤗🤗🤗🤗🕯️Que votre Âme repose et votre Violon joueras à tout jamais 🎻.
    Poète vous étiez.

  • @snakepit101
    @snakepit101 2 роки тому

    Stunning! I could hear just about daily and not get tired of it.

  • @ciebellesdances8404
    @ciebellesdances8404 4 роки тому +1

    Quelle émotion d'entendre cette interprétation, toujours surprenante!!! Ivry Gitlis nous a enchantés de tous temps!!! Tristesse de perdre un génie… avec nos remerciements immenses pour un artiste immense.

  • @seandaly2211
    @seandaly2211 6 років тому +30

    So sad how time is getting to him. Good for him for continuing what he loves.

    • @nolim1tzzz136
      @nolim1tzzz136 6 років тому +16

      It is not sad at all, to be playing like this at 95 is amazing and an achievement in itself

    • @HTFilms7
      @HTFilms7 3 роки тому

      Bruh be quiet

  • @londontaxijim9526
    @londontaxijim9526 Рік тому

    I know when something is this magically special because my heart stops beating within the first bar and only restarts again on the last note.
    This only because it doesn’t want to miss a single beat.

  • @alankorea4721
    @alankorea4721 6 років тому +192

    His playing is like an old man talking.

    • @bryanlin8333
      @bryanlin8333 5 років тому +7

      I really like your thought on this performance

    • @krzysztofkoziarski5838
      @krzysztofkoziarski5838 5 років тому

      @@bryanlin8333 RZĘŻENIE!!!!!!!!!! CYRKOWCA!!!!!!!!!!!

    • @Themorello91
      @Themorello91 4 роки тому

      @@krzysztofkoziarski5838 zagraj lepiej polaczku

    • @pzeus11
      @pzeus11 4 роки тому +7

      not wrong, which is actually very touching

    • @hetedeleambacht6608
      @hetedeleambacht6608 4 роки тому

      exactly what i was thinking....

  • @hetedeleambacht6608
    @hetedeleambacht6608 4 роки тому +2

    pfff what an intesnse feelings this man is able to convey... even with his odd technique.... pure music

  • @blackkguyga
    @blackkguyga 6 років тому +10

    You hear the wisdom, pain, sorrow and joy of his 95 years on earth. The tone is beautifully hoarse.

  • @allstarmark12345
    @allstarmark12345 2 роки тому

    Omg this vibrato makes me have goosebumps all over and cry. So beautiful

  • @violinoeducativo
    @violinoeducativo 5 років тому

    Critici weten niet hoe ze de artistieke essentie van de voorstelling moeten waarderen.
    Gefeliciteerd en een knuffel voor Paul Witteman uit Brazilië

  • @matthijsstenfert
    @matthijsstenfert 4 роки тому +2

    Bijzonder mooi🤩. Slechts merk ik op; De Tempo Rubato welke Mike Boddé meebrengt geeft de viool de kans te 'zingen'. (Ofwel, het applaus is ook richting de pianist!)

  • @knight-gj7yo
    @knight-gj7yo 3 роки тому +2

    素敵❗過ぎて…涙が…ヴァイオリンと一体に。なんて素晴らしい🎵👀人生でしょうか?ギトリス様の演奏🎶何度聴いても?感動します🙇⤵️…👏👏👏👏👏👏👏jありがとうございます(* ̄▽ ̄)ノ~~ ♪

  • @nicolausgregory3666
    @nicolausgregory3666 7 років тому +4

    So beautiful and moving performance....

  • @pragma5475
    @pragma5475 6 років тому +1

    sa lumière s éteint avec quelques notes tendres de son génial passé ! merci à toi virtuose !

  • @jeanquiliquini2000
    @jeanquiliquini2000 3 роки тому

    Merci pour ce beau voyage...on part très loin...🙏

  • @debashismitro3255
    @debashismitro3255 Рік тому

    Endearing elegance of noble tonality.
    Almost impossible to match.

  • @Kirby560
    @Kirby560 3 роки тому +1

    This brings a lump to my throat and a smile to my heart every time I watch it...

  • @juliajanssens8432
    @juliajanssens8432 4 роки тому +1

    Glorious nostalgic farewell.

  • @y.2226
    @y.2226 2 роки тому

    Tears in my eyes, this man plays so wonderful

  • @Apalexpe
    @Apalexpe 4 роки тому

    One of the greatest artists to have walked the earth. Simply breathtaking

  • @ybodoN
    @ybodoN 8 місяців тому

    When the fingers no longer respond as well as they did in their glory days, all that remains is pure emotion 🤩

  • @marlymarmala91
    @marlymarmala91 6 років тому +11

    Ivey Gitlis is my hero!

    • @HTFilms7
      @HTFilms7 3 роки тому

      He's not even a superhero liarrrrrr

  • @TENGKURYO
    @TENGKURYO 4 роки тому +1

    Sang by his soul.. I love you maestro, always.

  • @helenaelisabetgeertruidava7782
    @helenaelisabetgeertruidava7782 4 місяці тому

    Rust zacht mijnheer Gitlis...u heeft mijn hart geraakt

  • @fabiolcezma4948
    @fabiolcezma4948 4 роки тому +2

    Rest in peace my inspiration of everyday in my life.. i loved you so muchh

  • @musically_yours9351
    @musically_yours9351 4 роки тому +2

    My soul is crying I was totally in to it

  • @lizzyscorner
    @lizzyscorner 4 роки тому +1

    You can feel the story true his music.... beautiful ♥️

  • @mariapap8962
    @mariapap8962 Рік тому

    Such a great violinist and an amazing, fun person! Rest in peace maestro! ❤

  • @kmiiloparra9904
    @kmiiloparra9904 6 років тому +3

    He aquí un latino que disfrutá de esta hermosa melodía.

  • @flobleu7586
    @flobleu7586 2 роки тому

    RIP Ivry, you were a genious of music.

  • @BSNYC
    @BSNYC Рік тому +1

    "An entire life in one song" as my late mother used to say.

  • @xDMrGarrison
    @xDMrGarrison 4 роки тому

    Bravo. This guy is like a dinosaur. A living legend, still bringing us the inspiration and beauty that Enescu shared with him. Not that Enescu gets all the credit, but I'm just saying that he was hugely inspired by Enescu :P And he has this in common with Menuhin, who also plays with so much heart, and was also hugely inspired by Enescu.

  • @samuellongo9530
    @samuellongo9530 5 років тому +2

    He makes his violin sing and cry. Beautiful.

  • @edcasco8490
    @edcasco8490 2 місяці тому

    Exquisite!!!

  • @Ian24s
    @Ian24s Рік тому

    Gold standard.

  • @jacquesfoche9696
    @jacquesfoche9696 4 роки тому +1

    Chapeau 😘❤

  • @violao961
    @violao961 Рік тому

    Me faz lembrar muito meu professor de violino, que era nato e tirava um som do seu violino que era diferenciado , ninguém tirava aquele som, nosso saudoso irmão Ricardo

  • @zympku
    @zympku 6 років тому +7

    的确,从技术上来说,年老的吉特列斯水平比以前差了,包括有音准的问题。但是,95岁的老人能都演出,本身已经很了不起。我不想说透过这个音乐听出了多少老吉特列斯对人生的感悟,但是聆听一个大师晚年的演出,回想他一生的辉煌,的确让人唏嘘而感动。请想一下,每个人都有老去的时候。

    • @CC-zp1po
      @CC-zp1po 5 років тому

      一句古语:如泣如诉。

  • @danaalexandrescu6435
    @danaalexandrescu6435 3 роки тому

    R.I.P Ivry Gitlis!!!multi ar vrea sa mai cante la anii aceștia darmite atât de sensibil și curat!

  • @Themorello91
    @Themorello91 4 роки тому +2

    Amazing, violin is crying

  • @thierrysellekaerts4657
    @thierrysellekaerts4657 2 роки тому

    Super merci

  • @phosphor3617
    @phosphor3617 3 роки тому +1

    Even though obviously old men are supposed to die, some subconscious irrational part of my head not just believed but took for granted that Gitlis would always be alive, the last member of the old guard, the generation of Heifetz, Oistrakh, Neveu, Enesco, etc. I was genuinely shocked when he died at the age of 98.

  • @stuurmanjan
    @stuurmanjan 7 років тому +2

    Prachtig stuk maar fantastisch gespeeld. Ik ben niet zo'n viool liefhebber maar het gevoel en nuance die hij er in legde vond ik fenomenaal.

  • @petra4171
    @petra4171 4 роки тому +1

    BRAVVISIMO (MI) UNO GRANDE APLAUDO 🎻🌹

  • @alejandro9619
    @alejandro9619 4 роки тому +1

    Hermoso!! Descansé en paz

  • @elsabroncano8773
    @elsabroncano8773 5 років тому +4

    ivry you always amazing

  • @josiahdelamotte
    @josiahdelamotte 5 років тому +2

    Never stop playing, dear Mr. Gitlis

  • @tyfredbzh
    @tyfredbzh 4 роки тому +1

    👍👍👌Parfait!

  • @MintLeaf19
    @MintLeaf19 3 роки тому

    Extraordinario violinista y un gran conversador. Una muy lamentable pérdida. QEPD.