Episode

Поділитися
Вставка
  • Опубліковано 31 жов 2022
  • Philosophize This! Clips: / @philosophizethisclips
    Get more:
    Website: www.philosophizethis.org/
    Patreon: / philosophizethis
    Find the podcast:
    Apple: podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast...
    Spotify: open.spotify.com/show/2Shpxw7...
    RSS: www.philosophizethis.libsyn.org/
    Be social:
    Twitter: / iamstephenwest
    Instagram: / philosophizethispodcast
    TikTok: / philosophizethispodcast
    Facebook: / philosophizethisshow
    Thank you for making the show possible. 🙂

КОМЕНТАРІ • 104

  • @johnoh3822
    @johnoh3822 Рік тому +29

    Please make another podcast on this!

  • @OneEyedBart95
    @OneEyedBart95 Рік тому +11

    “I had to eat my pet chicken who was livin’ in my suitcase with me” 😂 this had me laughing too hard

  • @pizzahuttmorelikepizzabutt2066
    @pizzahuttmorelikepizzabutt2066 Рік тому +32

    Love this. Been waiting on the Guy Debord episode. Now all I'm waiting for is a Alfred Jarry episode.

  • @matthewcasey4795
    @matthewcasey4795 Рік тому +13

    More Debord, Baudrillard, Becker and Camus please.
    Also, Mark Fisher.

  • @christinemartin63
    @christinemartin63 Рік тому +18

    Just finished listening to all 171 podcasts. They were terrific (nearly all 😉)! Pretty nice of you to post these for free; they surely took a lot of time and thought. Bravo!

  • @PAX---777
    @PAX---777 6 місяців тому +1

    The first few paragraphs of Debord's book completely relates to this modern society.....like it could have written last week....amazing. Atomized population.

  • @childintime6453
    @childintime6453 Рік тому +10

    I love this book

  • @omaro_o7151
    @omaro_o7151 Рік тому +2

    Nobody scratches my philosophical itch better than Philosophize this!

  • @danielamesquita98
    @danielamesquita98 9 місяців тому +4

    This episode was enlightening. Keep on the excellent work

  • @LukePalmer
    @LukePalmer Рік тому +4

    More of this topic please! Fascinating but it ended way too soon!

  • @sinqobilebandile6558
    @sinqobilebandile6558 Рік тому +7

    I've listened to this about 3 times over the past 2 weeks. I can't seem to find other people speaking on this work and would love more episodes on this.
    Thank you for all the great work.

    • @HS-ie8tj
      @HS-ie8tj 6 місяців тому

      You can't find anyone speaking on this popular text by GUY DEBORD? You can't be looking around much at all...

    • @tysonasaurus6392
      @tysonasaurus6392 5 місяців тому +1

      Get people to watch the movie Nope with you and then slip in Guy Debord talking points afterward

    • @sinqobilebandile6558
      @sinqobilebandile6558 5 місяців тому +1

      @@HS-ie8tj haha you're right, i just meant people who would expand on what Stephen has covered so far. Like a lecture series of some sort. Most are just 20-minute book reviews that dont have much depth.

    • @sinqobilebandile6558
      @sinqobilebandile6558 5 місяців тому

      @@tysonasaurus6392 😂 good idea

    • @blyntzbugg1795
      @blyntzbugg1795 Місяць тому

      ​@@sinqobilebandile6558 Is this a joke? Read the damn book.

  • @papat7837
    @papat7837 Рік тому +3

    What a great video! Good job, Stephen. Please, feel free to make longer episodes! 🙏🏿

  • @issatavaziva4685
    @issatavaziva4685 Рік тому +3

    Love this episope been rewinding for 2hours now. Please make more episodes on Guy Deboord

  • @noahbrown4388
    @noahbrown4388 Рік тому +2

    Great episode! Nothing epitomizes the society of the spectacle more in our modern age than 'social' media and the monkey wrench it has thrown into human relations. One wonders how much more grotesque it can get.. metaverse? 🤷🏻‍♂️

  • @kiyarashreza3654
    @kiyarashreza3654 Рік тому +1

    Thank you and my thanks to you are sincere and have nothing to do with the spectacle in any way, shape, or form whatsoever!

  • @wanderingbiku451
    @wanderingbiku451 4 дні тому

    Fascinating episode. Thank you.

  • @dlloydy5356
    @dlloydy5356 Рік тому +2

    Fascinating dive into something we all take for granted for the most part. Great content.

  • @luket479
    @luket479 Рік тому +1

    Thanks for another. Spent many hours driving up and down the country listen to your cast.

  • @mlzplayer9243
    @mlzplayer9243 Рік тому +2

    Thank you for covering Debord! I didn't very much understand commodity fetishism but Debord was able to fill this gap, in a very itch in the brain sort of way.
    Now how can I find a way out of this place...

  • @leeshich
    @leeshich Рік тому +2

    Great episode! Thank you! Would love to hear the next episode on him!

  • @legamaxx2752
    @legamaxx2752 Рік тому +9

    Just listened to this on Spotify. What a great episode. Thanks, Steven!

  • @ryz177
    @ryz177 Рік тому +2

    This is an epic content! Kudos! It deserves to be heard by the people of the entire world as it is highly relevant to what's happening around! This would even make farther reach if there is some sort of video with it! I hope you make more of Guy Debord!

  • @a-z4886
    @a-z4886 Рік тому +1

    Am amazed, keep educating and philosophizing the great works and thoughts...

  • @kylelarson5074
    @kylelarson5074 Рік тому +1

    The alienation is very apparent in a company environment. Where your employer tries to limit your knowledge of the business operations to the bare minimum that the require of you to perform your defined function.
    This also counts for legal rights, health care benefits and even political input.

  • @BarryBizarre
    @BarryBizarre Рік тому +1

    What an excellent episode. Please do another on this topic

  • @TheKingWhoWins
    @TheKingWhoWins Рік тому +2

    As always, your uploads on philosophy are hugely welcomed. Thanks You 🙏🏻

  • @Ylemonade
    @Ylemonade Рік тому

    Super important episode! Thank you!

  • @goodboyrepublic2421
    @goodboyrepublic2421 Рік тому

    TikTok and IG are good and will support any way we can. We love you!! Thank you for creating these podcasts!

  • @WhyWhatHowWhere
    @WhyWhatHowWhere Рік тому +5

    I would love to hear about this “not a way out but a way through” idea from Debor. Unless it was mentioned so the listener’s peaked interest would make him do his own research on the topic. Thank you for your time and skills to make this video.

  • @agnostic3256
    @agnostic3256 Рік тому

    Hello, Thanks a lot. You already made my entire week. I appreciate it.😊

  • @bigstrongmansmart
    @bigstrongmansmart Рік тому

    Good shit. I look forward to more.

  • @corsodejesus4101
    @corsodejesus4101 Рік тому +1

    Listen to all of his episodes. The lastest one is just beautiful. Wish he expands on Ortega y gasset's philosophy.

  • @bigstrongmansmart
    @bigstrongmansmart Рік тому +2

    I wonder if--like the endless stream of spectacles/illusions that consume and effectively limit so many of us these days, & increasingly so--i wonder if the most effective means of transcending the spectacle might involve our making use of tactics that likewise fail to endure, but on purpose. In other words, embracing spontaneity in a way that fights power. Foucault's "always letting each other in, whatever that looks like, even when it becomes dangerous" would probably be a good place to start. What do you think?

  • @maximedemontbron5179
    @maximedemontbron5179 Рік тому

    Thanks, contemplating the spectacle right now watching this video, but every so slightly more aware of what I'm doing than usual.

  • @markmurex6559
    @markmurex6559 Рік тому

    Great video!

  • @aRchAng3lZz
    @aRchAng3lZz Рік тому

    Thank you for this episode. More stuff on Debord will always be appreciated. I hope that one day you can cover the work of Jacques Ellul (The Technological Society/System/Bluff trilogy in particular) as his focus on technological development and its impact on our lives is very much connected (and in some ways precedes) the ideas of Debord and Baudrillard.

    • @Animalis_Mundana
      @Animalis_Mundana Рік тому

      Check out technology as symptom and dream by Robert Romanyshyn!

  • @ronrocheleau3035
    @ronrocheleau3035 Рік тому

    Thanks Bigtime!!!

  • @joeyk169
    @joeyk169 Рік тому

    great stuff thanks! and i love the idea of debord going on tiktok

  • @George_Pags
    @George_Pags Рік тому

    I love the newest modern stuff to help us understand 2023

  • @smtrm212
    @smtrm212 Рік тому

    C Wright Mills Elites and Imagination. :) ♡
    Enjoyed this episode :)

  • @viathejar
    @viathejar Рік тому +1

    The decline of local beat reporting is another example of news becoming increasingly superficial

  • @queersnowflake
    @queersnowflake Рік тому

    Thanks mate

  • @thedog5k
    @thedog5k 10 місяців тому

    Very bold to assume everyone is unaware and unbothered

  • @mariannabeepdlue2816
    @mariannabeepdlue2816 Рік тому

    Pleaaaaaase do create another one!

  • @camiladellepiane6281
    @camiladellepiane6281 Рік тому

    Hi! I really enjoy your podcast, and I've been trying to find the page where I can sign in for the message to ger the reminder there's a new episode. I'd appreciate if you could tell me which is the link. For some reason it doesn't appear. (regards from Uruguay)

  • @Its-Lulu
    @Its-Lulu Рік тому +2

    Sweet love me some Debord

  • @FUMFgod
    @FUMFgod Рік тому

    More please

  • @markoslavicek
    @markoslavicek Рік тому +2

    Regarding commodity fetishism and our uncompromising participation in the spectacle, couldn't we argue that something similar took place in history? Today it's commodities, a while ago it was land ownership, prior to that maybe physical strength or fertility... It seems to me that we always fetishised _something_ and participated in some kind of social construct, whatever the form it took.

    • @retlox224
      @retlox224 Рік тому +1

      this is a really great point.
      i mean my perspective is that this "commodity fetishism" isnt really a modern issue. it seems to have been an issue for all (most?) of human history.

    • @markoslavicek
      @markoslavicek Рік тому

      @@retlox224 That makes sense to me, too.

    • @suicidalbomber8048
      @suicidalbomber8048 Рік тому +1

      Commodity fetishism and our participation in the spectacle are not merely historical phenomena but intrinsic to capitalist society's development. While other social constructs and forms of fetishization have indeed existed in history, the spectacle represents a qualitatively different form of alienation and domination unique to capitalism; It means a totalizing system that subsumes all other forms of social construct and fetishization. Also, the historical forms of fetishization you mention are themselves symptoms of the broader process of commodification and spectacle, i.e the fetishization of physical strength or fertility in pre-modern societies could be seen as a precursor to the commodification of the body and the emergence of the fitness industry in contemporary society. And we need to remember that Debord's concept of spectacle is not just a historical analysis but also a call to action.

    • @markoslavicek
      @markoslavicek Рік тому

      @@suicidalbomber8048 Well said.

  • @alex-7578
    @alex-7578 Рік тому

    Citation you were looking for on your breakfast example is David Harvey

  • @larry3591
    @larry3591 5 місяців тому

    Awsome

  • @blavatovsky9553
    @blavatovsky9553 Рік тому

    Oh ouhhhhh
    Killer bro

  • @davidmorrison6175
    @davidmorrison6175 Рік тому

    I'm very glad I heard this name earlier today. Always. better late than never

  • @liamplant9380
    @liamplant9380 7 місяців тому

    Loved that ending, I guess I am a part of a religion and I don’t really care about that all that much.

  • @Jmc401
    @Jmc401 Рік тому

    Hey Mr west, if you put a poster on your merch store, I would support you

  • @DHU11
    @DHU11 Місяць тому

    How do you apply this to things like instruments? because i think that some definitely *are* intrinsically better than others due to quality of materials and craftsman which produces better quality of sound....

  • @maximedemontbron5179
    @maximedemontbron5179 Рік тому

    I know more today than I did yesterday, but I feel like I'm suffering a bit more. :O

  • @aWomanFreed
    @aWomanFreed Рік тому +1

    How, on earth, would consuming the “body and blood of Christ”, even symbolically, not be cannibalism? I don’t understand these cannibalistic religions.

  • @Jmc401
    @Jmc401 Рік тому

    Time stamp please?

  • @BanColPan
    @BanColPan Рік тому

    Moar ✊

  • @durkadurka4107
    @durkadurka4107 Рік тому +5

    this, slavoj zizek, kaczynski, and max stirner; helped me break from leftist slave morality and hive mind

    • @albertseverino5576
      @albertseverino5576 Рік тому

      The left, right, center, whatever are all the same emptiness in the contemporary lexicon

    • @irpwellyn
      @irpwellyn 11 місяців тому

      You should break from the idea of considering a slave morality next

  • @derekrichardson9133
    @derekrichardson9133 Рік тому

    i want chicken! now!

  • @PAX---777
    @PAX---777 6 місяців тому +1

    SPECTACLE ~~~ CLOWN SHOW [modern W. Society]

  • @thedog5k
    @thedog5k 10 місяців тому

    14:11
    Anytime a theory requires me to have something projected onto me with lots of assumptions and no nuance allowed with lines like
    “Just go with it”
    I generally just throw it out the window
    Last time this happened to me someone had me read “ who moved my cheese” which was the biggest dump of a book I’ve ever touched m
    People are unironically handing out garbage ideas and saying “ if you don’t get it you (condescending jab to put the burden of understanding on you to mask their dogshit take)

  • @bekocean7385
    @bekocean7385 Рік тому

    Llamas do indeed exist

  • @YoMan751
    @YoMan751 Рік тому

    Been following you for years now and still listen to every single episodes 2-3 times. Love your work. This specific episode, not my favorite, seems obvious at this point the thesis of the author and you've been eluding to it so many time. Yet, I enjoyed it.

  • @frankv7774
    @frankv7774 Рік тому

    I'm OT 8

  • @darkness1293
    @darkness1293 11 місяців тому

    14:00

  • @richardouvrier3078
    @richardouvrier3078 Рік тому

    Habitus

    • @richardouvrier3078
      @richardouvrier3078 Рік тому

      Commodity animism in capitalist religion; diffuse spectacle.

  • @TennesseeJed
    @TennesseeJed Рік тому +4

    Thanks for this! May the healing force of the invisible hand of the market be with you. Blessed be the whales of Wall Street for we are the krill!

  • @retlox224
    @retlox224 Рік тому

    i do not know much about the history of the world, so i may be wrong. but it seems like this "fetishization of commodities" seem to just be materialism and wanting more material objects, just put in a marxist perspective. a problem i have is the framing that this is some sort of issue within a "commodity culture" (i.e. the culture of modernity). i just see this as some notion of human habit. liking things means getting things, liking things and getting things makes people happy, so they do it. i am somewhat anti-materialistic, i dont see how material objects would bring anyone virtue or "true" happiness. i dont see the problem of fetishizing commodities as a modern issue, it is a human issue. i mean bhuddism, stoicism, and cynicism all illustrate the point that having pretty and shiny things doesnt make you happy.
    its weird that the argument being presented is shown as some sort of a modern issue, "this is an issue with commodity (modern) culture", what is implied is that this "culture" didnt always exist, except it seems like it has. this isnt a "culture", it is rather (seemingly) normal human modes of thought.
    it is interesting to see anti-materialist arguments be made through a marxism lens, i just have an issue with this issue of materialism being presented as some sort of modern issue, when it has been a human issue.

  • @skykitsu
    @skykitsu Рік тому

    thank you for making this free
    but i would def pay like 5 bucks an ep you have a ko-fi or somethin

  • @hidekitojo2277
    @hidekitojo2277 Рік тому

    God is dead but people will always have religion be it secular or otherwise
    It really begs the question why you believe what you believe
    Can one really escape the spectacle and become an authentic human being? Do people really want freedom? I don’t think so

  • @antonioriondadelosreyes7523

  • @benjamindover4337
    @benjamindover4337 Рік тому

    Interesting

  • @PAX---777
    @PAX---777 6 місяців тому

    ....a copy.....of a copy....of a copy

  • @mulmeyun
    @mulmeyun Рік тому

    32:00 christianity isn't dualistic, that sounds more like plato

    • @casudemous5105
      @casudemous5105 Рік тому +1

      Soul and body if thay isnt christianity..bruuh

    • @mulmeyun
      @mulmeyun Рік тому

      @@casudemous5105 body and soul are one that's the whole point of the resurrection of the flesh

  • @madrigal1213
    @madrigal1213 Рік тому +2

    So much of your program time here is spent, unfortunately probably necessarily, placating the modern distaste for religion. It's a little frustrating. We've had thousands of years of incredibly intelligent people exploring different theologies all searching for some kind of truth about the world. It's disappointing that an effect of the rise of rationalism was to discard that field of knowledge.
    This coming from a very atheistic atheist, just to couch any particular pro-religion bias people may think I have.

  • @danilkopaskudnik3002
    @danilkopaskudnik3002 Рік тому

    ja .. ich bin driving puke-caddy muhself ..