It’s all about balancing your center of mass over the board while adjusting the center point to account for velocity. “Retraction turns” are a perfect example of this. It’s kinda like riding a bike. If you simply turn your handlebars without leaning into the turn, then you will flip over the handlebars. Instead, you only need a slight twist of the handlebars while leaning into the turn. While you lean over, the slight shift in the bike’s direction will counterbalance your weight shift and keep you from falling over. The same thing occurs with a snowboard. Snowboards have an hourglass shape that causes the board to drift in the direction of the edge you are carving on. If you shift your weight left and carve on the left edge, your board’s changing direction will counterbalance your body weight as you lean over. The fall line affects how far you need to lean, but you can lean toward the fall line as long as your board is whipping around fast enough to counterbalance your lean.
anyone else terrified of that happening again? I dont even know how it happened... I have hit the large jump 15 more times after but I have not tried a 360 this year cause im afraid maybe I may catch an edge..
Caught an edge about 10 times yesterday practicing my switch riding. After years of riding regular it’s definitely humbling feeling like a beginner again.
One tip that helped me if you still need it, I been struggling with my switch riding too until recently. One big tip is to equally press your shins and knees when toe riding switch and doing the opposite when on heel. I never caught on instantly to it because switch was new, as it'd be for everyone, so I'd always be stiff tryna link turns because I was afraid of catching an edge, which ironically made me catch allot of times. Idk if you still need the tip, but it helped me, so I'm just throwin it out there
Trying to learn switch and you helped me realize an issue I am having. I am an early turner. Will have to remember to ride flat in the transition between edges. Was so automatic when riding regular.
Also if you need more help wit toe side switch, one thing that helped me is pressing your shins and knees equally. It's like knee steering which you may or may not have already heard about. Once you get that down, you can practice riding switch more naturally, then pretty soon you'll be switchin from regular to goofy and vice versa with ease
Ed, you’ve unlocked a mystery I’ve had for a season. Guilty of being an “early turner” especially on steeper, narrower runs, now I know I must go flat base first. Great video… also, you’ve given me a chance with the “scorpion” during my runs. Anyway, I hope I can shred much cleaner this season!
I would add additional type: Forgetful carver. This is when rider didnt realize his board starts to slide (due to slushy snow or wrong edging) and do early edge change. Kind of same as first type but different prerequisites and more spectacular result
ah yes, when you shift away a pile of snow in the middle of a carve and fall... use a late Eurocarve to avoid it , or at least make it look as intended😂 heelside worse than toe side 😂
Spectacular explosion. While reviewing some footage I saw I did this. It was so split second I didn’t fall or even jerk but it seem like a random volcano of snow just shot up. Was pretty cool.
Caught my heel edge last weekend, didn't give my board quite long enough to chill on flat base before turning when I was on my first blue run. Patience is a virtue LOL. Thanks for the great content, very helpful vid. :)
Last season when I was completely not paying attention I did lazy turn, went into to a scorpion, blacked out for a second, then found myself on my feet again, and just played off like I meant to do that.
I stuck a heel edge into a bump I didn't see on Saturday. First real crash in a while. I managed to roll off my shoulder backwards rather than smashing my head but ended up in sort of a log roll until I caught my tail in the snow and loaded it up. That kicked me into the air unexpectedly and I pretty much did an ollie-to-bellyflop. Somehow got from partway-scorpioned to getting my shoulder under (steep hill helped) and landed on my heel edge. Edshreds (and a lot of neck/core work this year) probably saved me from a pretty bad injury.
yeah ive been looking for a snowboarding video on how to breakfall roll(like in parkour brakefall). zeb powell is master of crashing but still landing. looks sick also
Toe edge, tried to straighten out on pure ice, instead caught edge and knees hit ice directly! My son has scorpioned...didnt know the human body could do that!!
Lol i can link turns but sometimes when theres between enough snow and powder, i become an early turner (especially on hard runs). My friends love to bring me on diamonds (this is my second season snowboarding) and when i have to link fast between heel to toe, my snowboard gets caught up in the snow and i cant turn. I wish i was less stressed out
Caught an edge recently and didn't control the tumble. I caught another edge on the way down and stopped my legs, but not my body. Tore my retinaculum in my knee. Third day in the season and my last day.
I've been falling victim to the early turn edge catch recently. I've been working on starting my turns earlier and with some aft-to-fore pressure and I think I'm just sending my hip out over my new edge too early
why do early turner catch an edge, and in carving tutorials there is part that calls for an early edge change? what is the difference, why there is no edge catche in early edge change while carving? i still did not progress so far so I am just curios about the difference. Thanks
speed. like riding a bike. All you do to turn a bike is turn the handle bars and lean. What happens if you turn the handlebars and lean when going really slow? You either fall, or wobble to stay up. Same concept.
More than just speed. I do it at a snails pace but I’m not sure why it works Momentum? Like a cross over turn/ shifting top torso just as the edge catches? Not sure.
My Dad (never did a trick on snowboard) caught the scorpion and somehow did a front flip instead of crashing! It was so pog . . . Then he caught corona
Tragic story. first day opening up at loon this szn ended up being my last day this season. Caught my heel side edge on the FIRST run of the day and ended up slamming so hard I dislocated my collarbone. I wasn’t doing anything sketchy which makes the story that much more frustrating. I was transitioning from my heel to toe and unfortunately didn’t see the snowdrift that was created in the middle of the run. (flat light conditions) heel side edge digs right into the pile and I proceeded to get whipped backwards blindly and slam right onto my left shoulder. Got up and collected myself, did the check; legs good, torso, good, right arm, good, left arm…..yeah a little sore. Now I REFUSE to take the sleigh of shame so I rode down to the base. the pain just started to get worse and worse so that’s when I knew something was wrong. Walked over to the ticketing booth and was like , heyyyyyy so I need help 😂. Fast forward 2 months to now and I’ve gotten, a grade 5 AC joint dislocation surgery and have been in a sling since Nov 23rd. Like the video said, no matter the skill level, edge catching sneaks up on you when you least expect it so always be on your toes (literally applies to my situation😂) sadly I’m missing out on what seems to be a great season so far but I’ll have to wait it out this season😢. Good news is I may be coming out of my sling next week so I’m excited to finally get some freedom and mobility because shoulder injuries SUCK.
I'd like to think I'm a fairly intermediate snowboarder. I hardly ever fall, and I typically have great edge control. That being said, I got cocky a few weeks ago and did a lazy (and late) toeside turn into a slow zone and caught my heel side edge and ate shit in front of the whole lift line. Lost my shades in comical fashion.
I caught and edge and landed on my collarbone and broke it, all i remember was falling forward and then laying down on my back and i was told by my friends that i blacked out for a full minute so that was scary
I watched a buddy of mine catch an edge on a rail and he lost a front tooth that day. Lots of blood and lots of pain. After that i stopped doing rails.
I don’t know if this counts, but I was getting off a lift and I had a mini back and forth with an employee tending the snow. I then caught my toe edge and jumped around trying to keep my balance. I’m sure I looked like a complete doofus
i honestly get very stressed out when im going fast and switching from toe to heel, but if theres any shitty advice i can give to anyone trying to learn, i guess its just that you need to trust the board.
My downhill gets caught sometimes during a turn not because I don't just because it happens and it freaks my mom since she has never snowboard and it looks a lot worse then it actually is
I 100% disagree with your claim that you need speed to transition from one edge to another, once you explain dynamic turning a learner can easily do it at near-zero speed.
This was both entertaining and scary as hell at the same time.
A little note on the early edge change: if done right, it's actually a proper carving technique, but requires a lot of speed and hella control
It’s all about balancing your center of mass over the board while adjusting the center point to account for velocity. “Retraction turns” are a perfect example of this.
It’s kinda like riding a bike. If you simply turn your handlebars without leaning into the turn, then you will flip over the handlebars. Instead, you only need a slight twist of the handlebars while leaning into the turn. While you lean over, the slight shift in the bike’s direction will counterbalance your weight shift and keep you from falling over.
The same thing occurs with a snowboard. Snowboards have an hourglass shape that causes the board to drift in the direction of the edge you are carving on. If you shift your weight left and carve on the left edge, your board’s changing direction will counterbalance your body weight as you lean over.
The fall line affects how far you need to lean, but you can lean toward the fall line as long as your board is whipping around fast enough to counterbalance your lean.
I caught an edge at the peak of a large jump once... Just remember looking up at the sky and seeing my board and boots.... Landed on my back.
Lucky i landend on my jewels
Same
I have you E!
anyone else terrified of that happening again? I dont even know how it happened... I have hit the large jump 15 more times after but I have not tried a 360 this year cause im afraid maybe I may catch an edge..
@@pi286 wish you the best luck
And no not afraid cuz im still learning no jumps yet
Caught an edge about 10 times yesterday practicing my switch riding. After years of riding regular it’s definitely humbling feeling like a beginner again.
One tip that helped me if you still need it, I been struggling with my switch riding too until recently. One big tip is to equally press your shins and knees when toe riding switch and doing the opposite when on heel. I never caught on instantly to it because switch was new, as it'd be for everyone, so I'd always be stiff tryna link turns because I was afraid of catching an edge, which ironically made me catch allot of times. Idk if you still need the tip, but it helped me, so I'm just throwin it out there
Trying to learn switch and you helped me realize an issue I am having. I am an early turner. Will have to remember to ride flat in the transition between edges. Was so automatic when riding regular.
Also if you need more help wit toe side switch, one thing that helped me is pressing your shins and knees equally. It's like knee steering which you may or may not have already heard about. Once you get that down, you can practice riding switch more naturally, then pretty soon you'll be switchin from regular to goofy and vice versa with ease
Ed, you’ve unlocked a mystery I’ve had for a season. Guilty of being an “early turner” especially on steeper, narrower runs, now I know I must go flat base first. Great video… also, you’ve given me a chance with the “scorpion” during my runs. Anyway, I hope I can shred much cleaner this season!
Awesome man 🙌
Happens to me all the time when I get tired/lazy
@@ShredSchool1what does flat base mean? Does it just mean you don’t have any edge lifted?
How can you perform „the save“?!
Tuck and roll
Jump the moment you feel catching your edge and then land flat
Literally take parkour lessons, basically advanced falling lessons 🤣
I would add additional type: Forgetful carver. This is when rider didnt realize his board starts to slide (due to slushy snow or wrong edging) and do early edge change. Kind of same as first type but different prerequisites and more spectacular result
ah yes, when you shift away a pile of snow in the middle of a carve and fall... use a late Eurocarve to avoid it , or at least make it look as intended😂 heelside worse than toe side 😂
Spectacular explosion. While reviewing some footage I saw I did this. It was so split second I didn’t fall or even jerk but it seem like a random volcano of snow just shot up. Was pretty cool.
Caught my heel edge last weekend, didn't give my board quite long enough to chill on flat base before turning when I was on my first blue run. Patience is a virtue LOL. Thanks for the great content, very helpful vid. :)
Last season when I was completely not paying attention I did lazy turn, went into to a scorpion, blacked out for a second, then found myself on my feet again, and just played off like I meant to do that.
Great bud, love the transparency that you too have been a victim. Part of the learning process. Thanks for the coaching.
I stuck a heel edge into a bump I didn't see on Saturday. First real crash in a while. I managed to roll off my shoulder backwards rather than smashing my head but ended up in sort of a log roll until I caught my tail in the snow and loaded it up. That kicked me into the air unexpectedly and I pretty much did an ollie-to-bellyflop. Somehow got from partway-scorpioned to getting my shoulder under (steep hill helped) and landed on my heel edge. Edshreds (and a lot of neck/core work this year) probably saved me from a pretty bad injury.
I live life on the edge, and then the other edge.
The scorpion is complete when you hit the back of your head with the board...
Hey, is there a Video (or can you please make one) to the save from the ButterBro?
Thanks in advance and nice video ^^
yeah ive been looking for a snowboarding video on how to breakfall roll(like in parkour brakefall). zeb powell is master of crashing but still landing. looks sick also
2:47 that fall though!
Toe edge, tried to straighten out on pure ice, instead caught edge and knees hit ice directly! My son has scorpioned...didnt know the human body could do that!!
Lol i can link turns but sometimes when theres between enough snow and powder, i become an early turner (especially on hard runs). My friends love to bring me on diamonds (this is my second season snowboarding) and when i have to link fast between heel to toe, my snowboard gets caught up in the snow and i cant turn. I wish i was less stressed out
Caught an edge recently and didn't control the tumble. I caught another edge on the way down and stopped my legs, but not my body. Tore my retinaculum in my knee. Third day in the season and my last day.
I've been falling victim to the early turn edge catch recently. I've been working on starting my turns earlier and with some aft-to-fore pressure and I think I'm just sending my hip out over my new edge too early
why do early turner catch an edge, and in carving tutorials there is part that calls for an early edge change? what is the difference, why there is no edge catche in early edge change while carving? i still did not progress so far so I am just curios about the difference. Thanks
speed. like riding a bike. All you do to turn a bike is turn the handle bars and lean. What happens if you turn the handlebars and lean when going really slow? You either fall, or wobble to stay up. Same concept.
@@Dluiogbre thanks mate, really good to know
Bord should not slide, it should move strictly along its main axis. Then it is safe to change an edge
In carving you go to the side, so you don't catch an edge. With simple turns you go downside and an edge acts like a brake.
More than just speed. I do it at a snails pace but I’m not sure why it works Momentum? Like a cross over turn/ shifting top torso just as the edge catches? Not sure.
The last time I catched an edge was this season, learning switch, catching my heel side edge and breaking my wrist ✨👌
Same. I’m literally here sitting down with my broken wrist after I caught an edge
A-ha! The Scorpion; that was a new one for me.
What about the going straight and back foot starts to go back and forth really fast then clips one of the edges?
The art of the save.. haha
Ahh, very painful video. Thanks. :D
2:51 the rare reserve scorpion
EDGE DOWN BUT WE UPP🔥🔥🔥📢📢📢
My Dad (never did a trick on snowboard) caught the scorpion and somehow did a front flip instead of crashing! It was so pog . . . Then he caught corona
The Corona lift at Eldora, nice!
(hope he's all good)
That video does hurt 😅
Tragic story. first day opening up at loon this szn ended up being my last day this season. Caught my heel side edge on the FIRST run of the day and ended up slamming so hard I dislocated my collarbone. I wasn’t doing anything sketchy which makes the story that much more frustrating. I was transitioning from my heel to toe and unfortunately didn’t see the snowdrift that was created in the middle of the run. (flat light conditions) heel side edge digs right into the pile and I proceeded to get whipped backwards blindly and slam right onto my left shoulder. Got up and collected myself, did the check; legs good, torso, good, right arm, good, left arm…..yeah a little sore. Now I REFUSE to take the sleigh of shame so I rode down to the base. the pain just started to get worse and worse so that’s when I knew something was wrong. Walked over to the ticketing booth and was like , heyyyyyy so I need help 😂. Fast forward 2 months to now and I’ve gotten, a grade 5 AC joint dislocation surgery and have been in a sling since Nov 23rd. Like the video said, no matter the skill level, edge catching sneaks up on you when you least expect it so always be on your toes (literally applies to my situation😂) sadly I’m missing out on what seems to be a great season so far but I’ll have to wait it out this season😢. Good news is I may be coming out of my sling next week so I’m excited to finally get some freedom and mobility because shoulder injuries SUCK.
Aww that absolute sucks, hope you recover well
Caught an bad edge a years ago ans broke my shoulder. I wasn't even going that fast, just the angle was unfortunate.
I'd like to think I'm a fairly intermediate snowboarder. I hardly ever fall, and I typically have great edge control. That being said, I got cocky a few weeks ago and did a lazy (and late) toeside turn into a slow zone and caught my heel side edge and ate shit in front of the whole lift line. Lost my shades in comical fashion.
I just can't see a scorpion without laughing. I hope it never happens to me!
I caught and edge and landed on my collarbone and broke it, all i remember was falling forward and then laying down on my back and i was told by my friends that i blacked out for a full minute so that was scary
I'm #1, thx for the call out
I watched a buddy of mine catch an edge on a rail and he lost a front tooth that day. Lots of blood and lots of pain. After that i stopped doing rails.
Yoooo, I thought you meant FOOOT!
Damn I love to get better at rails but when doin a boardslide it always scares me
1:07 RIP
The Scorpion looks like death.
The last time o caught an edge I’d after landing a 3 off a big jump and it was a scorpion with kinda bitter bro
i caught my edge while doing a 540 out a rail and broke my wrist
My back hurts just watching the scorpion 😢
I don’t know if this counts, but I was getting off a lift and I had a mini back and forth with an employee tending the snow. I then caught my toe edge and jumped around trying to keep my balance. I’m sure I looked like a complete doofus
i honestly get very stressed out when im going fast and switching from toe to heel, but if theres any shitty advice i can give to anyone trying to learn, i guess its just that you need to trust the board.
I was entertained
I remember catching an edge riding through rocks and freaking out. I scorpioned and got winded 😭 not very fun
I don't know why edges hate us that much :)
Teaching us about how to dance with life
@@ShredSchool1 Definetly Ed :))
#Bataleon or Lobster
Talking about the triple base or 3BT?
My downhill gets caught sometimes during a turn not because I don't just because it happens and it freaks my mom since she has never snowboard and it looks a lot worse then it actually is
Pretty sure I’m the butter bro here. In fact I just caught an edge today and had to get a CT scan. Never fell that hard in my life
The crevasse between my eyebrows grew deeper and deeper as the video was playing
I am #1, and I do realize I need to flat base, I just suck.
Actually maybe it's more of a #2 lol
#1 This is right. Yet… it is wrong. Go, and learn what this means. -snowda
I prefer skiiing because it catches less edges like this :(
The ones that keep catching edges because they think they're "too sharp" and want to detune even tho they never go near rails.
Those rail catches look nasty. Am so glad I don’t ride park
I 100% disagree with your claim that you need speed to transition from one edge to another, once you explain dynamic turning a learner can easily do it at near-zero speed.
this video was painful to watch... every edge catch makes my butt pucker
Need better names
Rome party mod 22, Rome bindings 400$ - Catches edge 😂
It's painful to see