Low-key Im not sure it would perform the same since he will have lower base damage but in trade more rankings, now I'm not saying it would still not be op but it definitely would've been either really op or not menacing at all.
@@frition627 true but current lonos can be built by anyone but also previous lonos brought him back into that warrior spotlight while being an assassin.
@@друг-и2у his base dmg was never adjusted as a warrior, only as an assassin has his dmg been buffed. Only thing nerfed was his ult which gave him 60% mitigation when reworked
Ok I’m still relatively new to smite and I’ve had these videos recommended to me recently, I enjoy watching them but mostly don’t understand a lot of the context. Can someone explain what old Lonos Mask did compared to after they reworked it?
You take 20% less damage, and do less damage. So if you just go full tank on a character that isn't a warrior or a guardian, you got very tanky. Ravana being a prime example of an abuser, since he's already got so much survivability. Could also stack it with sigil of the old guard (lonos wasn't a starter before) for a silly amount of mitigations
Old Lono’s mask simply just reduced the damage you took by 15% flat but reduced your damage by 15%. It was busted on Ravana since he has passive damage reduction and glad shield makes him do more damage with protections. Essentially think of an assassin with 40% Cooldown, about 35%-40% Damage reduction, and about 250 prots. It also wasn’t a starter item so you could build it with tanky starter items too.
Midigation is a special stat, and lono's gave a lot of it. The reason its special is the more you habe the better more is. Mitigating 20% of 100 damage means you take 80. Add another 9% midigation and you don't go from taking 80 to 91% of 80 (72 damage), you take 71 damage. Not a big difference, but add sigil of the old guard and that moves another 12% midigation. If it added the way most other stats do, it would take that 72 damage and turn it into 63. But since it's multiplicative it turns the 71 into 59. So if a hunter shoots your tank for 100 damage, they're shooting Ravana for 59. And his passive makes him generate shields the more he hits enemies, and there are very few tools to counter those shields being built, so it's hard to even hit his actual health bar instead of just punching a ton of shields.
Ravana’s passive made this build soo much better. Because that also got a buff at around this time. That build from behind though is ROOOOUUGGGHHH. I believe it was SOT on ravana and the enemy just flat out ignored him and took the phoenix.
tbh he already killed most of them without lono's. It's the power of glad shield that is so busted rn that allows these plays. But combine that with lono's and yea... it's busted beyond belief
Glad shield isn't that good, it was simply brought it line with the items other classes have access to. He had levels on them and as soon as he got lono's he was unkillable
@@scalpingsnake bro why is almost everyone building glad shield then? I've even seen junglers use it with succes. It's bloated with stats with a very, very strong passive. Compare a build with glad shield to a build without you'll see the difference. Only AA warriors don't use it. Solo Lane is infested with glad shield builds.
@@camael4209 he is just stupid ^^ thats all glad is op and every one knows it .. but i think this bronze players still plays something like khepri solo ^^
@@camael4209 You realize the passive is based off prots so building it in the jungle ain’t good unless you’re going hybrid like a solo. It’s not broken just a good item.
@@camael4209 I never said it wasn't a good item I was saying it isn't at the point where it's singlehandedly getting kills for someone. It's built because it's one of the few hybrid items that wasn't nerfed into the ground. Most junglers tried it out when it was buffed but most don't bother with it now. You are confusing correlation with causation.
Incredible. I'm out here with maxed protections, like 40% damage mitigations, and still dying instantly. Where's the dlc everyone else has that makes tanking a thing?
Dude I remember people shit talking me for saying that ravana is OP. Hell I still think they need to slap the shit out of soul eater already cause I'm tired of that too, but stuff like this is just ludicrous
No. Why would you nerf soul eater when it’s barely on the come up it was a sleeper item until all the sheep saw it in the SPL. It shouldn’t get nerfed just Bc rav synergies/well w the item.
So “OP” he was only played like a total of 5 times twice w the sigil build which only SOT managed to win with. And then the lonos build. Which had the rav win 3/5 games and wasn’t played again Bc teams found a way to play around him.
@@elchaval9286 Why would you nerf one of the 2 strongest items in solo that is an auto-buy if your god can use it? That basically makes antiheal necessary every game, and stales the meta into staring contests at best and an absolute stomping ground in a bad matchup? Yeah can't think of a reason why
hated this meta. couldn’t damage solo assassins who had lono’s + any other mitigation item. hated it. Rat and Ravana were the biggest offenders. couldn’t even kill them as AMC with max CDR and Pen and a qin’s… it was a nightmare
everyone is hating on lono's but glad shield is the real problem tbh. it deals way too much damage. There is 0 reason for a physical god to not go hybrid or glad shield tank. It deals almost as much damage as ability based power builds but is insanely tanky at that. god i hate that item with a passion in the state that it's in rn. It's a must build...
@@camael4209 Also why so insistent on taking away an item that allows solos to do there job which is to bully. You just want them to get popped for free? L8 game mages or hunters usually if good smoke solos.
@@elchaval9286 I don't want them to get popped for free but trust me, lancelot with glad shield tank build for example can easily 1v3 others. Same goes for Achilles, ravana to some extent and KA. Glad shield rn is way too strong. Especially with a god with hard ccs. Just build soul eater, manticore spikes and glad shield, you'll easily solo several enemies and survive. Remove glad shield from the equation and you'll still be able to box with enemies but not freely solo several enemies.
@@elchaval9286 there is 0 reason the tank should hit me as hard with an ability as a full power mage/assassin, or do my entire health bar with their ult just because they have bluestone/glad
@@paperxplane1 Chaac has more in his kit than any other God, he's soooo good. insane hp/mana sustain, massive aoe, massive damage, an incredible movement skill that when used right can literally make you impossible to catch, a massive slow, a massive silence, a knockup, crowd-control immunity during ult and immense reduction in damage taken, his 2 also gives him MASSIVE protections. No one else boasts his immense damage with as much immense aoe he has, as well as has such high sustain and crowd control.
@@The_Totes_Adorbs I think you're exaggerating the damage a bit too much. As a Chaac main i love him but when hunters hit late game you still get shredded and your damage falls off a lot, or you're squishy if you built damage. I think Chaac is a bit of a jack of all trades. He can engage with ult, be relatively tanky and do decent damage, has a mobility option, and self healing which forces people to buy antiheal. He's not amazing at anything specifically though. His mobility takes using 2 abilities and outside of going over walls of doesn't get you far. His damage is amazing early but falls off pretty hard lategame until perhaps you get bluestone brooch. He doesn't have any hard cc outside of ult and his ult is also a bit telegraphed and therefore sometimes easily avoided (for example Anhur/Hou Yi leap at the right time) and it does nothing). Don't get me wrong I love Chaac and he feels amazing to play but I'd like to stay realistic.
Bro they nerf lonos because it makes you beyond tanky but they just reworked it really, but they leave glad shield alone which is the ONLY reason you can do so much damage and still be super tanky thank you
I miss old lonos this new rework is not fun and the meta is really boring building lonos with any starter was sooo run now it's like Its just been removed from game While keeping the name sake for what 300 protections n stand there n let your teammates die while trying to peel for them ...
Had anyone got sunder in that match specifically the support of solo it would have been a different game yet you see them running to their backline to just entertain them
Yeah it’s definitely lonos not the fact he has a full more than a full item and 2 or more levels on them. They wouldn’t have been able to fight him even if he didn’t build it
I always like how spirit robe was removed for a while and Rav mains were like “Lol what if we went lonos instead it can’t be that better”
Remember when Ravana was a warrior, imagine how he would've been with the same warrior stats in this Lonos meta
Low-key Im not sure it would perform the same since he will have lower base damage but in trade more rankings, now I'm not saying it would still not be op but it definitely would've been either really op or not menacing at all.
i mean he wouldnt be able to build it
@@frition627 true but current lonos can be built by anyone but also previous lonos brought him back into that warrior spotlight while being an assassin.
@@друг-и2у his base dmg was never adjusted as a warrior, only as an assassin has his dmg been buffed. Only thing nerfed was his ult which gave him 60% mitigation when reworked
@@DangerErin current lonos can only be purchased by Mages, Hunters and Assassins.
most enjoyable smite meta
Stop
No. Just no.
Tank ravana with glad shield is literally my tilting mechanism
"Loonnoos maassk" mans was feeling memories of past events in that moment xD
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Ok I’m still relatively new to smite and I’ve had these videos recommended to me recently, I enjoy watching them but mostly don’t understand a lot of the context. Can someone explain what old Lonos Mask did compared to after they reworked it?
You take 20% less damage, and do less damage. So if you just go full tank on a character that isn't a warrior or a guardian, you got very tanky. Ravana being a prime example of an abuser, since he's already got so much survivability. Could also stack it with sigil of the old guard (lonos wasn't a starter before) for a silly amount of mitigations
Old Lono’s mask simply just reduced the damage you took by 15% flat but reduced your damage by 15%. It was busted on Ravana since he has passive damage reduction and glad shield makes him do more damage with protections. Essentially think of an assassin with 40% Cooldown, about 35%-40% Damage reduction, and about 250 prots. It also wasn’t a starter item so you could build it with tanky starter items too.
It reduced his damage done and RECEIVED by 20%, while also giving a good amount of protections and HP. You could buy it at any level and it was cheap.
Midigation is a special stat, and lono's gave a lot of it. The reason its special is the more you habe the better more is.
Mitigating 20% of 100 damage means you take 80. Add another 9% midigation and you don't go from taking 80 to 91% of 80 (72 damage), you take 71 damage. Not a big difference, but add sigil of the old guard and that moves another 12% midigation. If it added the way most other stats do, it would take that 72 damage and turn it into 63. But since it's multiplicative it turns the 71 into 59.
So if a hunter shoots your tank for 100 damage, they're shooting Ravana for 59. And his passive makes him generate shields the more he hits enemies, and there are very few tools to counter those shields being built, so it's hard to even hit his actual health bar instead of just punching a ton of shields.
@@zaperzero throw in berserk too
This is like in cartoons when the hero gets chased into the door room and then starts chasing the monsters for a bit
Ravana’s passive made this build soo much better. Because that also got a buff at around this time.
That build from behind though is ROOOOUUGGGHHH. I believe it was SOT on ravana and the enemy just flat out ignored him and took the phoenix.
Do you by chance remember which match it was that the enemy team just ignored SoT?
I don't think it was his passive that got a buff but the scaling on his 1.
This happened in Season 9, but still an enjoyable clip 😁
Lore accurate
I fucking knew this was gonna happen
tbh he already killed most of them without lono's. It's the power of glad shield that is so busted rn that allows these plays. But combine that with lono's and yea... it's busted beyond belief
Glad shield isn't that good, it was simply brought it line with the items other classes have access to. He had levels on them and as soon as he got lono's he was unkillable
@@scalpingsnake bro why is almost everyone building glad shield then? I've even seen junglers use it with succes. It's bloated with stats with a very, very strong passive. Compare a build with glad shield to a build without you'll see the difference. Only AA warriors don't use it. Solo Lane is infested with glad shield builds.
@@camael4209 he is just stupid ^^ thats all glad is op and every one knows it .. but i think this bronze players still plays something like khepri solo ^^
@@camael4209 You realize the passive is based off prots so building it in the jungle ain’t good unless you’re going hybrid like a solo. It’s not broken just a good item.
@@camael4209 I never said it wasn't a good item I was saying it isn't at the point where it's singlehandedly getting kills for someone.
It's built because it's one of the few hybrid items that wasn't nerfed into the ground.
Most junglers tried it out when it was buffed but most don't bother with it now.
You are confusing correlation with causation.
Lol. I still wish they didn't remove Bumba's mask. That was way too fun on Morrigan.
Another betty banger
Have not been paying attention to this game for a while so WTF
Not to be THAT guy, but this is season 9, not 8.
FUCK I can't count
Do one on benevolence!!!
This was season 9, not season 8
Wasn't SoT the one who did this first? I could be wrong
Damn that‘s so fair
Incredible. I'm out here with maxed protections, like 40% damage mitigations, and still dying instantly. Where's the dlc everyone else has that makes tanking a thing?
there wasnt an adc hitting him
Daddix
Dude I remember people shit talking me for saying that ravana is OP. Hell I still think they need to slap the shit out of soul eater already cause I'm tired of that too, but stuff like this is just ludicrous
No. Why would you nerf soul eater when it’s barely on the come up it was a sleeper item until all the sheep saw it in the SPL. It shouldn’t get nerfed just Bc rav synergies/well w the item.
So “OP” he was only played like a total of 5 times twice w the sigil build which only SOT managed to win with. And then the lonos build. Which had the rav win 3/5 games and wasn’t played again Bc teams found a way to play around him.
@@elchaval9286 Why would you nerf one of the 2 strongest items in solo that is an auto-buy if your god can use it? That basically makes antiheal necessary every game, and stales the meta into staring contests at best and an absolute stomping ground in a bad matchup? Yeah can't think of a reason why
Items shouldn't be nerfed just because it's the only option available on most Gods. Hunters already have that issue
@@eradian1 because it affects more than just solo lane and they should be buffing solo lane items not gutting the items that makes them playable
Nothing made me MORE happy then seeing this boring ass God instantly drop in playrate because of Lono's nerf
hated this meta. couldn’t damage solo assassins who had lono’s + any other mitigation item. hated it. Rat and Ravana were the biggest offenders. couldn’t even kill them as AMC with max CDR and Pen and a qin’s… it was a nightmare
Unfortunately it’s very sad they make changes for the 0.01% of the player base
smite balance team
But Glad is totally fine right guys?
everyone is hating on lono's but glad shield is the real problem tbh. it deals way too much damage. There is 0 reason for a physical god to not go hybrid or glad shield tank. It deals almost as much damage as ability based power builds but is insanely tanky at that. god i hate that item with a passion in the state that it's in rn. It's a must build...
@@camael4209 The passive is based of prots so they HAVE to go tanky items if they want to use the item to its fullest potential.
@@camael4209 Also why so insistent on taking away an item that allows solos to do there job which is to bully. You just want them to get popped for free? L8 game mages or hunters usually if good smoke solos.
@@elchaval9286 I don't want them to get popped for free but trust me, lancelot with glad shield tank build for example can easily 1v3 others. Same goes for Achilles, ravana to some extent and KA. Glad shield rn is way too strong. Especially with a god with hard ccs. Just build soul eater, manticore spikes and glad shield, you'll easily solo several enemies and survive.
Remove glad shield from the equation and you'll still be able to box with enemies but not freely solo several enemies.
@@elchaval9286 there is 0 reason the tank should hit me as hard with an ability as a full power mage/assassin, or do my entire health bar with their ult just because they have bluestone/glad
Chaac is the only god that can 100 to 0 a pre-nerf Haddix's Lono Ravana
also a god haddix really likes to play lmao
@@paperxplane1 Chaac has more in his kit than any other God, he's soooo good.
insane hp/mana sustain, massive aoe, massive damage, an incredible movement skill that when used right can literally make you impossible to catch, a massive slow, a massive silence, a knockup, crowd-control immunity during ult and immense reduction in damage taken, his 2 also gives him MASSIVE protections.
No one else boasts his immense damage with as much immense aoe he has, as well as has such high sustain and crowd control.
@@The_Totes_Adorbs I think you're exaggerating the damage a bit too much. As a Chaac main i love him but when hunters hit late game you still get shredded and your damage falls off a lot, or you're squishy if you built damage.
I think Chaac is a bit of a jack of all trades. He can engage with ult, be relatively tanky and do decent damage, has a mobility option, and self healing which forces people to buy antiheal.
He's not amazing at anything specifically though. His mobility takes using 2 abilities and outside of going over walls of doesn't get you far. His damage is amazing early but falls off pretty hard lategame until perhaps you get bluestone brooch. He doesn't have any hard cc outside of ult and his ult is also a bit telegraphed and therefore sometimes easily avoided (for example Anhur/Hou Yi leap at the right time)
and it does nothing).
Don't get me wrong I love Chaac and he feels amazing to play but I'd like to stay realistic.
Yeah he have mid damage in late . I play conq and duel , a chaac can't compete against most adc in end game conquest or duel .
@@ans-dq9xh then yall playing him wrong. XD
Bro they nerf lonos because it makes you beyond tanky but they just reworked it really, but they leave glad shield alone which is the ONLY reason you can do so much damage and still be super tanky thank you
I miss old lonos this new rework is not fun and the meta is really boring building lonos with any starter was sooo run now it's like Its just been removed from game
While keeping the name sake for what 300 protections n stand there n let your teammates die while trying to peel for them
...
Had anyone got sunder in that match specifically the support of solo it would have been a different game yet you see them running to their backline to just entertain them
I’m sorry but 10 benevolence was better
Yeah it’s definitely lonos not the fact he has a full more than a full item and 2 or more levels on them. They wouldn’t have been able to fight him even if he didn’t build it
I mean it is lonos lol without lonos 4v1 he just gets shredded
Yeah right, I'm sure he would have lived against 4 people otherwise. lol 😂
He has 4 times, they all have 12 total, and he still crushed them.
With spiritual robes he would have kick at least one guys out i think but lonos is also too strong sooooo
@betty when are you gonna do the game between cloud 9 and Aquila it was the greatest comeback 6 years ago it ended with a quad from repikas