Andy King is the one responsible for the second kerfuffle. He says the purple car drove into him but he did the turning and killing.😂 He was trying to turn the tables on the victim.
You certainly had the pace here John, looking at the lap times you should have been around 3rd or 4th 😐 Ok, so here's my take on things . . . . . Regarding the incident at T1, I think both 6 & 7 had a part to play in it, but it's more on the 6. 7 could have given more room to the right. On exit they are going to the right, keeping tight to the line which shows 6 a bit of room, but then starts to come back over to the left. The 3-wide spotter call wouldn't have come into play until 6 got there as the car that ran wide left didn't seem to be in your range at the time. I think what has caused the impact is 6 trying not to run into you. They had a good run on exit, and you can see they start to drift left so turns to the right briefly to correct the line and then causes them to hit the 7. Why I think it's more on the 6 is that by having the good T1 exit, they put themself in a lose-lose situation. They do what they did and cause a mass pile up OR they don't correct and end up running directly into the side of you instead. The best thing to do would have been to just lift off throttle slightly and tuck in behind. I know it's not the place to do it when there's a long run from here to the next braking zone, but that's racing and sometimes you need to concede to stay safe. As for the other SALTY incident with Car 6, not sure he's got too much to argue about there. They seemingly run the 12 off the track in T1 because they go down the inside but don't hold it tight (possibly because they took too much curb and unsettled the car). After that on the run up the hill, I don't think he leaves the 12 enough room. If you watch it back, you can see the black line in the road, 12 is running a consistent line up the hill and you can see when the start to turn into the corner. Car 6 being on the outside, is expecting to take a "cut-back" line through the next corner (although I'm not sure a highspeed corner is the time and place to do a cutback), so turns in accordingly, however, they completely miss the fact that they are side-by-side with the other car, who is going to be taking a tighter line to leave space on the right, so is turning a lot later, but is turning at the point of contact. Once again, I think it just comes down to car 6 needing to be a bit smarter and thing about his race craft a little more. I think it's fair to say car 12 wasn't being malicious, as the very next incident shows them holding a fair, tight line to make the pass stick. On a slightly more cheerful note . . . . I thought car 6 was going to have another ding dong with you when they came out the pits and ran you off the road, but thankfully you held them off.
There are no gurantees in any race that involves GR86s. I dont know what it is with these cars but they seem to have more incidents per lap than any other
Why is that people like me and you never learn and keep going back to the buttkicker - and I reckon that the areo dammage was the least of your issues! NASCAR would be proud
3 wide rarely ends well..!! Unlucky John.
@@simracer-65 But we keep trying it 🤣
Andy King is the one responsible for the second kerfuffle. He says the purple car drove into him but he did the turning and killing.😂 He was trying to turn the tables on the victim.
@@Django45 That's why I try not to rage on the radio until I have looked at the replay.
You certainly had the pace here John, looking at the lap times you should have been around 3rd or 4th 😐
Ok, so here's my take on things . . . . .
Regarding the incident at T1, I think both 6 & 7 had a part to play in it, but it's more on the 6. 7 could have given more room to the right. On exit they are going to the right, keeping tight to the line which shows 6 a bit of room, but then starts to come back over to the left. The 3-wide spotter call wouldn't have come into play until 6 got there as the car that ran wide left didn't seem to be in your range at the time. I think what has caused the impact is 6 trying not to run into you. They had a good run on exit, and you can see they start to drift left so turns to the right briefly to correct the line and then causes them to hit the 7. Why I think it's more on the 6 is that by having the good T1 exit, they put themself in a lose-lose situation. They do what they did and cause a mass pile up OR they don't correct and end up running directly into the side of you instead. The best thing to do would have been to just lift off throttle slightly and tuck in behind. I know it's not the place to do it when there's a long run from here to the next braking zone, but that's racing and sometimes you need to concede to stay safe.
As for the other SALTY incident with Car 6, not sure he's got too much to argue about there. They seemingly run the 12 off the track in T1 because they go down the inside but don't hold it tight (possibly because they took too much curb and unsettled the car). After that on the run up the hill, I don't think he leaves the 12 enough room. If you watch it back, you can see the black line in the road, 12 is running a consistent line up the hill and you can see when the start to turn into the corner. Car 6 being on the outside, is expecting to take a "cut-back" line through the next corner (although I'm not sure a highspeed corner is the time and place to do a cutback), so turns in accordingly, however, they completely miss the fact that they are side-by-side with the other car, who is going to be taking a tighter line to leave space on the right, so is turning a lot later, but is turning at the point of contact. Once again, I think it just comes down to car 6 needing to be a bit smarter and thing about his race craft a little more. I think it's fair to say car 12 wasn't being malicious, as the very next incident shows them holding a fair, tight line to make the pass stick.
On a slightly more cheerful note . . . . I thought car 6 was going to have another ding dong with you when they came out the pits and ran you off the road, but thankfully you held them off.
@nock-racing Yeah car 6 did himself no favours in that one, hopefully he watches the replay back and realises that it wasn't the other guys fault.
Yep Car 6 was the problem
@@Tomo-bm5lw Confirmed 😳
Thats a tough one. that could get away with being a racing incident. Still a bit stupid though
@@PhoenixMotorsportUK Maybe I need to qualify better to try and stay ahead of this type of stuff.
There are no gurantees in any race that involves GR86s. I dont know what it is with these cars but they seem to have more incidents per lap than any other
Why is that people like me and you never learn and keep going back to the buttkicker - and I reckon that the areo dammage was the least of your issues! NASCAR would be proud
@PhoenixMotorsportUK Oh yes indeed, I was tempted to try this race again but one mega crash a week is more than enough.
@ You think like me