Lost Ark RESETS. Why Fresh Start Will Be A Disaster
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- Опубліковано 26 вер 2024
- Amazon and Smilegate have no idea what they're doing and it's very obvious.
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The same as ArcheAge, with its multiple attempts to revive with new servers; when MMOs start doing this, it is most likely a sign of the upcoming funeral.
tell that to WoW and FF14
@@northwestclasspnw7974 WoW still is in a terrible spot so not sure what your point is there. FF14 is a bad comparison because they actually significantly improved the game and addressed player criticisms. They didn't just throw a band-aid on it and try to attract people back with a shiny new server.
You mustve forgot about Classic WoW 😂
@@quetz6335 that's not really the same thing though, Classic ain't fixing retail. It's just an alternate way to play the game in its earliest state, completely separate.
Archeage took my money and didn’t even deliver. Lol screw that game.
My biggest problems with lost ark is that i cant play my one character without becoming hard gated on progress after no time at all ingame. It sucks and i dont wna do alts
Thank you, alts should only be used for wanting to play as another class when you’re bored. But if you never get bored of playing your character, you shouldn’t be punished for it.
@@mildchaos6037 Exactly, One character. Just dont gate me out of progressing after like 30 minutes ingame and il be playing again. But if i can only play 30 minutes a day on what i actually enjoy then whats the point.
This. I even created 2 Alts, then I realized how unfair it is and stopped playing, which sucks because even today I miss playing my main character.
Clown is to hard for me, and even if I make it.... brelshaza are you kidding me lol
I remember getting to about 500 item level and being proud, and it started slowing down so much. Then I saw Asmon was up to 1400 or something and went ‘Ite ima head out’
The no gatekeeping will 100% only last 1 week. Once the players get to 1520 to do brel 1-6, the following week will have lobbies asking for brel NM horns to show a sign of some experience.
The same that happened last time lol
I cant even imagine myself grinding all these islands, reputation, cards, mokokos. It's only for new players and not returning players I guess. I stopped after Valtan, I think.. A lot of people quit at that time I think (my guild disbanded like 2 weeks after I left) We were getting destroyed by whales in pvp it wasnt even fun. We won an island the first week but it was a mirage
And there's the issue of players that have already done all that content previously on their regular server jumping into this new server for giggles and being mixed up with people that left before or just as Brel was released (I.E. people with no experience or knowledge of how the encounters go). The gatekeeping will already be there from day 1.
So what, buy a bus, there will be there too
I’m gonna be honest, gate keeping was fun as fuck when we were the ones doing the gate keeping. Be the gate keeper not the gate kept. OMG! Were we contributing to the problem lol who gives a fuck. It’s Smilegate’s and AGS’s problem not ours.
The game almost bled out its entire playerbase, there's hardly any raid lobbies being created and the ones existing are heavily gatekept or busses.
Devs: "Let's split the playerbase, I'm sure this is gonna solve the problem."
It´s so weird this talk about Lost Ark "being less of a burden". All this talk about how players spend their time give me the impression they´re talking about people managing their addiction instead of players enjoying their game.
But that's the issue with lost ark. The only way to progress efficiently is by having multiple alts. Now let's pretend you only enjoy 1 class and you only want to play with that everyday all day long. You can't. There's just not enough content for that because everything is capped at a daily/weekly basis. The problem is that people NEED to have multiple characters.
99% of the game is boring. Only raids are fun and even then, only the latest raid is considered enjoyable since you are only doing the weaker raids for gold.
@@LKZToroh So much this. I really really enjoyed my time in LA at the start, I like getting collectibles and things like that and put way too many hours into it. But after 1400 hours of the game in the first few months I got so so seriously burnt out from running the same stuff over so many characters.
Heck I'm an alt lover since I usually get bored of playing just one class and I even enjoy doing guardians and early raids...but doing it daily over 6 characters just made me want to throw fists with the devs.
I love lost ark, the only reason i stop playing is, you can't avoid raids because it's the only way for you to gear up and it is most of the content. The raids is way too mechanic oriented and team dependent. That just takes away the enjoyment of the game. I think people start leaving cause they're just tired of the game.
same to me, i love the game but i hate the raids
@@facuriera So don't play MMORPGs?
Literally same.
I really don't see the logic behind this. The raids are pretty much what makes me like the game over other similar mmorpgs. Raids are about the only thing in lost ark that requires skill and knowledge to do, if you dislike having to learn and become good at something then afk games are pretty much the only place left to go i believe.
You dont have to “see the logic”. Different people like different things. How do you have difficulties grasping this?
I just returned to the game 2 days ago and OMG there are no parties in anything at all.
Queue time for anything takes forever
Legion raids are only available by bussing them
There is nobody to actually help the returning or new players to the game
at this point, creating a new server isn't gonna help because the new players are already disappointed for what they are dealing with.
99% of theyr playerbase quited after 2-3-4 hour ques
says 40k ppl online via steam
Of course it is easy, as it was done with wow that the scaling of levels to be able to play with people with high and low ilevel
@@eclipse369. back then there was over 10 mil active users, now there maybe same milion or so
@@eclipse369. Thats split into 4 regions...
I would play a fresh start with no monetization outside aura and cosmetics. Any other monetization and its a no go on my end
Yeah would be cool if they would make such a server just to test it out how people like it.
They'd have to rework it from the ground up to make what you suggest possible. Take any system you know in the game and ask why it was designed the way it is (honing? trading? stronghold? dailies? raid design? trade skills? just pick any). And ask if it would have a place in the game at all in its current form, if Lost Ark abandoned its cash shop first, game second model. SG would be better off making a new game.
Amazon: "There will be no more bots"
Bots: "Bet."
they just said there will be no more bots ,they never said there will be less bots
There will be no more bots cuz there will be no more players trollololol
the new player experience is by far the worst part of the game. Amazon - “why don’t we make a server for everyone to experience that again.”
the game is worse after you beat the campaign lol
@@Grangolus you get to grind some more
this is true if it wasnt for nice people i met in learning discords i wouldnt know how to do valtan vykas clown and brel 1-4
Guys they make the game easier to process and get to end game raids I Don't see why so much crying remember asmongold just do this for content and to get your attention he pay to win his way through the game he didn't actually played it as normal ones not everyone can do that If you don't like it go play something else but the thing there is nothing to play tbh I'm f2p and I have akkan ready one character and most of my alts are 1540_1560 and I play as chill as possible run normal runs and they even save me some time with the new daily I see this is good points in the Right direction
You guys are making the game bad, skiping trought everything, powerleveling and getting to "endgame" to do nothing but the same activity twice per day for a year. Enjoy the game, it is free.
I was 1490 couldnt find a group for brel to move on, One year ago.
I logged in today and i still cant find a group.
Basicly I am Stuck.
I play to have fun not to problem solve to play a game.
I’m ready to find mokokos non stop for a couple weeks then quit again 😂
after spending ur retirement funds for censored skins and honing fails
Bruh, you can just f2p in the game and get skins if ur dedicated enough. I had like 5 accounts farming ores and trees.
@@charlesgentry3758I had 20 accounts and my boy Tyrone aka TBone has 40 accounts and we be eating good but we play 18 hours a day every day as f2p 😂
Lol I literally only did that original NA launch hahaha
@@charlesgentry3758 sounds rly fun
If you reset a game without no new content the same as always will happen: A bazillion player will play on day1 because "fresh start hype". 2 weeks later the game is dead because then the hype is gone and everytime you login you look at the MOUNTAIN of work you have to redo again to get to the point you were before killing your motivation.
The only reason it worked the first time is because it was new, like climbing a fresh mountain, where you only look ahead and are happy about every small step you take forward. This is like jumping down midway climbing and having to redo the entire climb again for no reason. It feels nice in the first 5min until you realize all the steps you have to take to get where you were and the chore that will be.
as a lost ark player i really appreciate asmon talking about this repeatedly and clearly caring about the game. i frankly have given up at this point though lol. homework raids have completely burnt me out, i dont even do kayangel HM on my main anymore.
Reason why asmon cares is because alot of people see how fun lost ark can be but the chores and the raid mechanics are very unfun and create a toxic environment. People blame the community for gatekeeping but that is what the devs want. One guy fucks up start it all over.
Dead game. They need to leave it in the dust. Next time company needs to listen to players. Try again. See you in another ten years, Smilegate, maybe then you will get it right.
Plus even when you do home work on other characters, your progress is rng based.
but they do, there is a lot of changes they are doing for players, i wish other companies react like them especially with this content cadence, last dailies change is only reduction before revamping them @@traincore1955
@@Astelch they made a "hardcore" system for raids, then they made the game p2w OR if you are f2p, insanely grindy (daily chores, it's literally 2nd job). Now they are surprised only hardcore players remained or people who doesn't care about their own life and just do the daily stuff while they are drooling all over the keyboard. Who would've expected this outcome?!
this is honestly a common practice for korean game devs to do this as a sort of "rug pull" in the gaming market. they try to get as many people as possible to pay for all these microtransactions, then once their games numbers start to go down they do a "reset" and wipe everything to fleece everyone that's dumb enough to pay a second time. it happens in the west sometimes too.
I quit lost ark ages ago. If I can keep my cosmetics and mounts with these new servers, I'll give it a shot. If all that stuff is gonzo with the server switch though I probably won't come back to the game since I'm not a huge fan of losing all my shit
same!
That's the beauty of micro transactions. They aren't obligated to reimburse you because the cosmetics don't belong to you 😂
@@SmickyD all the more better, because i won't be tempted to get back in that game then. Saves 2 hours a day I could spend playing BG3 or Starfield
Damn right.
games are better without that shit. You can play and don't spend any more money. :)))
I liked Lost Ark, but what I didn't like was the entirety of the honing system, and I didn't like that I felt forced to play alts to keep up. I don't wanna gamble on a chance at progression, and I don't wanna feel like I have to work an extra job to do it.
thats why artisan energy and pity system exists. u will still progress if you grind the mats needed, but luck will determine how fast you pity and how much materials you burn.
I find it interesting that "fresh start servers" are almost exclusively a korean MMO phenomenon, and they almost always fail. Needing fresh start servers in the first place means the game is fundamentally flawed, but even as a "solution" it is merely a bandaid on a gushing wound. It gets some people to come back and try the game again, realize literally nothing is fixed, quit again, except now the consistent playerbase is spread out even more among even more numerous dead servers, hastening their own quitting of the game.
Wow classic. POE not westedn exclusive.
@@blackcrow3718 even Runescape did it like last year i believe
New world did it too recently
@@blackcrow3718poe is an arpg not mmo
@@davidtoowavy1648 so ? They consider destiny a mmo aswell.
I stopped playing Lost Ark because of these One-Shot mechanics in Abyss Dungeons. Wiping over and over again because one player made a mistake(not always the same and sometimes I screwed up) in each attempt was way too frustrating... That is not all but annoyed me the most. I did not really mind the daily tasks and enjoyed many of the island stories and events.
Same for me, but also the guardian raids (which had less one-shot mechanics) became too easy with people bussing and even the event/challenge raids were a joke. That and the day-long queue times for everything else. But I guess that just happens in MMO’s
This is why I left the game, they need to remove those dungeons completely and I’ll come back
I loved Lost Ark when it first became playable in Europe. I had a blast figuring out the game, loved collecting, well, collectibles, loved how it played, and good it felt, and then... I got to the endgame. And from that moment on it started going downhill. I'm not 'hardcore' enough to commit to a guild in LA (I already commit to WoW) to do raids and it took far too long to grind stuff to upgrade my gear the more I progressed. It might sound weird, but I really liked the story, playing through the different continents/areas, and feeling like I was a hero helping to change the world for the better.
I really liked the game. Then I stopped playing. Haven't touched the game since... eh... I think April this year? And even after watching this vid I don't feel compelled to return at all. It's far too grindy for me.
Worth noting Gold River's solutions were what caused Lost Ark's problems in the first place. Too much homework, gatekeeping, etc was around in KR for years. Why play anyways grinding hours upon hours when you can just wait a few months and get powerpassed up instead?
Ah yes, reseting the game just to fail again. Geniuses
First the didnt fail. Second they arent resetting the game
@@DoggyP00 it did, it failed miserably.
I remember playing the open beta with summoner to max level until they released the game without summoner and took more than a year to release that class. Nice company
I can't imagine playing a game being described by words such as "chores", "homework", "burden". Jesus.
Most people in my guild stopped over the honing system. Just don't think the western market will accept that system in the long run.
Honing system would be ok if they gave more rewards to 1 char and way less for alts, making it optional but since the entire ALT system is designed to get more gold and tradable honing mats, you're either going to play 6 alts or be massively behind all the other players who are willing to do that.
Honestly, just make 50% the lowest possible honing chance. I was down to 70 or 60% success chance and was already like ‘fuck this’
Never gonna change sadly since honing and cards are what make ppl swipe
@@nikitamarynich1794 imagine people that play more is rewarded better than people that play less just imagine.
Honing was fun. The grind for mats is the horrible and boring part.
They just don't get it. Weeklys/raids should award you with 80%-90% of mats and hardcap it to 3 characters.
Dailys should be 10-20% and uncapped for the hardtrys
they could make raids carryable by at least a few, so wipes aren't as punishing
Your take isn't wrong for some percentage of players they will keep playing the same amount.
For me personally I have been cutting back as much as I can (6 hrs a day to 1 hr a day) and I will be cutting back more with these changes.
Cutting back was a personal decision, but it also feels unfeasible to keep alts caught up to main regardless.
If I can't progress at the correct rate playing 1 character I probably won't be playing after Akkan.
All I can really think of is the old wow guild system and how it gave players a way to make a group of like minded individuals to play the game to their needs. Guilds create a need for the pack, not a need for the individual.
The fun thing about lost ark are the raids. They need to remove the one person wipe mech. Until then, I’ll not return because that creates gatekeep and toxicity.
Lost Ark made me realize I will never play a game with a honing system. Nothing like working towards something to have to taking away from you.
24,274 playing right now 26 min ago (possibly half were bot)
26,359 24-hour peak
1,324,761 all-time peak
Highly doubt AGS and Smile gate can bring back those numbers.
They dont need to bring back those numbers a mmorpg can survive on 25-40K easy.
And the bot problem is not that big atm, atleast not EUC where i play.
@@Startrance85 you still play lost ark? id rather have second job than play that game anymore tbh no offense
If a developer can't make the journey to level cap interesting, why should I assume the gameplay at the level cap will be compelling? I've yet to play an MMO that zooms you to the level cap for much time... Except BDO, I guess...
o be honest i just tried undecember again after trying it months ago and had more fun than in lost ark , somehow they removed most pay to win , you even have max inventory space for free now , season rewards for free and even stash tabs can be earned in game , its not as free to play as path of exile but its around as pay to win as warframe , and had more fun in the game than playing diablo 4 and even feels more like a a diablo/path of exile inspired game with cool new stuff , i legit like the socket system/skill sistem in undecember more than poe 1/2 , lost ark honing is fucking metin 2 20 years later fuck that system
First time leveling was fun, but fuck doing that multiple times.
That actually goes for every mmo imo
Lol games dead I honestly wouldn’t be surprised if 75 present online were not bots. Just like New World.
it doesnt change the root cause that spending money grants you a huge advantage in lost ark , the honing...
They dont understand that gatekeeping happens because you have to run 3 raids on 6 different characters and that one person can wipe the whole raid. So if you aren't giga juiced or have good titles/roster level, no one will take you. It's not the players' fault it's the fact that no one has time to wipe or get jailed while having an actual life outside the game. I think reducing the number of gates is a good starting point, but the fundamental punishment system for failing some mechanics need to be changed. Raids could also be reduced to fewer characters like 4 or 3 just anything to reduce the time and risk it takes to run all the raids
I might consider going back if we started at tier 3, with every skin i've bought and mats were character bound so i would only play the two characters that i like. This obviously won't happen so good luck to those who want to do everything again.
You are starting at tier 3 at the doorstep to doing brelshaza in the new servers. They already confirmed it Most mats are roster bound nowadays and skins will be server bound. Starting a brand new server is just like it says. A new server. Clear start. But we don’t know the details other than surface deep.
This wont address the card/roster issues which make people get gatekept. They need to:
- introduce practice modes for different mechs in raids
- scale island rewards to your current tier
- enable option to get all rewards on one char or split upto 6
@@Kynber Everyone starting tier 3 ? I saw 1415 pass. But my char 1380-90 like that.
@@Kynber but what does that mean exactly? The servers are connected to each other anyways, whats the point
@@ziggs123 no they are not lol thats the point.
Whats the point of rereleasing the game if you aren't going to fix the shit that made everyone leave. what the fuck are they doing these days
1) New server doesn't fix the gatekeeping. New players will just end up doing the same thing in old servers anyway.
2) Lost Ark, when created, forgot that there is a small market who only want to play 1 or 2 characters.
They just need to do it for all servers not just the jump-start ones and make it less mandatory to play alts to progress
make a new Lost Ark game that costs 60$ and remove P2W. Skins and mounts are fine
We've had several expansions worth of content pushed on us in the span of 1 year. It's too much. I burnt out way back in December and quit. Now if I want to return, I can't because I'm too far behind, and the thought of going back to having Lost Ark as a 2nd job again in order to catch up is frightening.
Honestly, stuff like this is the reason why I think Diablo might be onto something with the seasonal resets. I just wish it wasn't every 3 months, and I wish there was more to it in terms of PvP and proper raid content like in Lost Ark instead of the minimal effort trash you get in D4.
Come to the light brother. New PoE league tomorrow LOGIN
@@armaniedoizin Tried it, is trash.
They do know how to get rid of gatekeeping. In FF14 there are TWO settings for applicants… 1- have not completed 2- have completed. They are AUTOMATICALLY accepted into the group providing their class role has not filled yet. Get rid of seeing LILTERALLY EVERY ASPECT of someones account on Lost Ark. Congrats I just solved gatekeeping but that makes people spend less money so it will never happen. The game is not suited for the West bottom line. It’s a whale only game.
(A casual player's take)
LOST ARK is a GREAT game at its "own" thing. (fast-paced, flashy skills, hardcore raid mechanics etc.) But it's NOT for everyone. I did play for 1.4k hour, but what made me eventually quit is the lack of "immersion" and ironically, the lack of "identity" 'coz it's a "roster-based" game not entirely a "main-only" MMO.
We know the limited entry count hinders your vertical progression but you as a player who wanted more... You will most likely end up creating at least 1 or 2 more alts just to get more out of the game.
And in my opinion, having to play alts is the root cause of gatekeeping. Coz people are generally too busy to complete their checklist for the week, they must not waste time getting jailed just coz 1 newbie kept failing a certain mechanic or DPS check.
Don't get me wrong, I did appreciate this game. I even spent some money to buy some cool cosmetics. But it's just so hard to see Lost Ark reaching the 50-70k+ player count again, but who knows, I could be totally wrong.
But darn, there's just so many other games out there. Phew...
Realistically the best solution is to have game not being so heavily reliant on raids to progress. Gatekeeping will always happen in raids, the problem with this game is that you cant progress unless you raid lol. Not only in new gear(which is not an issue per say, doing raids for new gear is fine) but the fact raids also make up majority of your gold earnings aka your main currency... aka the same gold that is used for like majority of the entire games system. The game gives us many options to acquire Leapstones, Silver, Shards, Destruction, Guardian Stones but at the end of it all, you're still funneled to the raiding aspect. You virtually cannot progress your character without running raids.
Give us more options for gold.
Smilegate does know how to fix gatekeeping. however they dont know how to fix it without hurting there own profits.
Fresh start? Not going to collect all the Mokokos, Bounties, Rapports and shits again.
if lost ark was casual player friendly. it would become one of the best games tbh
Damn, Asmongold's take on the Lost Ark changes got me nodding in agreement. The struggle with gatekeeping, daily caps, and the endless grind is too real. Will these tweaks actually make the game more rewarding for hardcore players, or are they just Band-Aids on bigger issues? What's your take on it?
The worst thing was you grind a Week just for you to fail in the Upgrade then.
That is the worst!!!!!
Every time I hear about new classes this game has from when it launched it makes me want to play it, but then I remember I'd have to spend the next 200 hours grinding just to be at current content
nah you won't even catch up cuz no one will do the raids at ilevel with you you need to progress lmao.
it will take much more than 200 hours to get to current content bro
I think they should only allow 1 main character that can make progress make gold, etc. But you can change your main to a different class, if you do, you get the equivalent of your build to that new character. But make a cap on how often you can switch characters. Like once a month or something.
not anymore. express passes exist and u can catch up with a new character in 1-2 weeks
I have though about it alot, Lost Ark really doesn't have much content. After completing the story, excluding collectibles like omnium stars/sailing maps and towers that you complete once, you're left with the following for the daily/weekly grinds for endgame:
1. Una's Task
2. Chaos Dungeon
3. Guardian Raids
4. Legion Raids
5. Ghost ships
6. Abyss Dungeon
7. Cube/Boss Rush
I might be missing other things since I haven't played in a year, but I still believe Lost Ark fundamentally has limited content. That's why the game incentivizes you to play alts to increase your play time, becoming too repetitive.
I have always felt when I played, once I finished my dailies/weeklies, that I had nothing to do. Sure there are islands events and collectibles to do but once you finish them and get their soul/pieces, that's it, it's done. I can also do gathering but it's hella boring and is even gatekept with energy.
There’s always something to grind for. New collections event islands pvp islands gvg/gve. A lot. But if you don’t do those- you don’t have anything. Then if you don’t want to do it- you don’t have to and you can hop off and play something else.
as you stated. The contents of the game are actually not few, but since the number of entries is limited, they seem less. We can't do the things you stated forever and I accept it as someone who has played a character. Unless I have unfortunate events like being in jail it normally takes me 2 to 3 hours to finish all the content and other days I have nothing to do. To prevent this, people unlock more characters to make more of the same content. but not opening it won't slow your progress. with at least 3 4 characters you can get a decent pace. Even though I have low alts and I'm an old player, if I want to make content with my subs, I'm also subject to gatekeeper because I'm trying to join lobbies with higher levels than my own. I was looking for more juicy people even though I didn't meet their needs. this is also wrong.
He doesnt even play the game. Just regurgitates what other streamers say and dismisses non whale players inputs. Your better than this man
I aint coming back until they add some sort of proper MM to the raiding system. You can't have raiding cock block progression this hard in a game and not have an easy way for public lobbies to form. If I wasn't one of the lucky people who had a very large/strong guilld at the time of playing ( we were contested for 1-2 for top guild on the server ) I would have quit a long time ago as getting into groups for raids was nearly impossible even when there were 500k people playing I can't imagine how hard it is now. Gatekeeping was way too strong and honestly raid designs that punish entire groups for 1 single persons mistake is a terrible design philosophy and only cements gate keeping. I can't blame them for doing it because the raids are time consuming enough as it is and then you gotta worry about the one sub human IQ monkey that gets in your group and can't put a colored ball in the right hole. Pheons gotta go. Guardian raids to 3xs a week. 1 character gets gold a week. Less RNG on stones. Remove 60% of the useless engravings, there's enough power systems now I don't have time to worry about engravings anymore. Force more people into Public MM for raids by offering some sort of bonus incentive so people who don't have groups of friends/guilds to raid with can avoid the gatekeeping and actually play the game. Probably need a mentor system or something rewarding higher level players to go back and help newbies get thru content for rewards. Until then still not coming back.
I really enjoyed Lost Ark. I hope they make positive changes. I can't play as long as it's so money grubbing.
The only way to save the game is to open up SEA/OCE servers.. 😢
A bit of doomer take, but it is understandable. I used to play this game hardcore, but now I play casually. I think a lot of what LA did will improve the user experience for sure, and make the dailies quite fun once again (especially the fate ember!).
However, it is also true that the fundamental issue of gatekeeping and alt fatigue is still there. Spamming the same 3 raids on 6 different char every week is obviously really tiring. I agree that LA will require something like Season 3 in order to do some full revamp on this front
I enjoyed Lost Ark for over 700h for what it was and I don't regret it. However, if they think players like me will return to a "second job", they are dreaming. I enjoy playing different classes for the change in pace and gameplay, but literally forcing me to play 6 characters for hours on end to barely keep up with some rich kid is just dumb.
I play games to have fun. If they become a chore worse than doing my real job, I stop and never come back unless there are some incredible changes justifiying replaying it over literally anything else. They lost their chance in the West.
zzz "we replaced the daily routine with the same daily routine, enjoy"
"The Community is just like a Refugecamp, with 7 ppl in it and 2 of them are dead... oh no, actually they're robots." That one killed me XD
Why are they opening new servers for these small changes? I expected something rivolutionary, not "chaos dungeos will last 25% less" 😂
You are litteraly clueless about this if you can't understand how these 25% change the whole activity. Just watch recent korean videos about this and you'll see.
If you sum it up in one word : smooth.
The fact that the map are smaller, mobs are faster, duration is reduced and you have hyper armor just make it much more good and the fragment of destiny loot is just like playing an ARPG where you can look forward for something good on a daily.
@@toe3267 So it's still the same braindead homework chore it's always been just 25% shorter as the OP mentioned? I thank you on behalf of the OP for proving their point.
@@krixtorei nobody is forcing you to do them every day or on multiple character, and if you don't want to do them at all, just don't play the game, simple.
@@toe3267 Evading the matter at hand.
@@krixtorei There's no evading, if you can't control the fact that you're getting burned out and you can't find means to not get burned out it's not the game problem it's yours.
Me and other player don't want to have time-gate based progression because some people feel they have to do multiple character (when nobody force them to be competitive or be on par with the part of the community that put time into the game) when they are not mentally ready to do it or just don't want to put time into the game.
Cant wait to grind again all my card collections, side quest, reputation and also my mokokos
None of this changes are gonna make me or my friends come back to Lost Ark. None of the "chore" aspcects of this game got fixed because devs try to fix them without understanding where problem of burnout comes.
dudeee the lost ark "bill of rights" of the game would be awesome, i totally would come back, not having to run like a mf after npcs with the cards would already be so awesome, my god
Tera didn't help stretching more servers
The fact of the matter is, as long as pheons and making alts a mandatory thing is a core part of the game I dont think I and many others will come back.
The only thing that could make me go back to Lost Ark, is if there is no P2W at all (only for cosmetics), which I don't really think will happen.
Asmons saying : people are going to farm harder because it's twice as fast:
But what I'm hearing Sylo say is: "it's going to be twice as fast because there's going to be half the amount of things to do to progress."
Simply, having multiple characters should only be for the ability to play other things, not to get more materials. If I want to do 100 chaos dungeons as my main character, let me. Not everyone wants to do it with 3-6 different characters. Stop punishing people that love their main character. Both sides can win
Pheon coins felt like a massive rip-off to me. I hated them.
No Daily quests.
No unnecessary grinding.
No boring repetition of anything.
No more games that don't respect my time.
I want to play a game, not replay the same quests over and over.
Changes aren’t enough to make me return. Pheons need to go away as well.
Fresh start server and doing main story and Astray grind again? Fuck no.
if they get rid of bots, then the entire playerbase would be gone....
There are no bots anymore for a long time already.. People like u make me mad talking about something without having a clue
Neria server only have bots. ;)
I have to agree with asmon; with no change to how fast we hone and so on nothing will change because only the raids will have a player cap while anything else you do (which is where a lot of honing materials come from) will give people incentive to have more alts which is the only downside. So a person who wants to just play one toon is going to still hit all of the roadblocks we did originally.
nobody is forcing you to play alt, if you can't accept that you will improve slower, nobody is forcing you to play competitively and to be the first at max level, don't ruin other people fun that they like to be rewarded for the time they put in it if you don't want to do it.
@@orbbb24 this is litteraly not true.
You can get to endgame with only one character, you just take longer than the other.
There's litteraly the new hyper express tomorrow that almost get you to endgame (it get you to current endgame if we don't count akkan) and chaos change with fragment of destiny will give you better way to get loot with daily like gold and the material box and this with just one character.
The meta is already shifting to playing more characters. Every hyper express is another character that can do dailies. The only wall is time to play them...
hear me out: the REBOOT server equivalent from maplestory would save LA. All mobs are tougher by default (dmg and hp) but also give more xp so you dont need to grind as much, "convenience" items (p2w) can be bought with in game currency from the premium store instead of paid currency (cosmetics are still only for irl cash albeit events that give some out), equipment upgrades are streamlined (in LA case honing reqs should be dramatically lower since the % and pity would feel fine if you could attempt 20 taps a day on 1 char and not just a single tap after 6 alts running every daily twice...reboot characters also got starting gear and a gift of useful gear at significant lvl milestones which in LA could just be honing mats and/or books at each tier. The drawback? Player trading is non-existent, it's like the osrs equivalent of ironman, all gear and drops you want must be found by yourself since you cant get it from anywhere or anyone else. This might not work in other MMOs but for LA where they limit number of trades with "pheons" anyway plus not to mention the absurd number of bots that infest servers (queue times) because they can flood the market easily for RMT. On top of this, the removal of the market would also require them to remove the limit on drops from the dailies/weeklies since it would be impossible without lottery level rng to find BiS pieces at the high end. This would also have the 3-in-1 effect of: more active players doing raids so you can make parties outside of reset day, no need for alts since your main can keep grinding as much as you want, less gatekeeping since people will be more willing to keep a party if theres no risk of "will I be able to make another party if this one wipes and someone leaves?"
If they did the above I really feel like a fresh server WOULD revive LA since the gameplay itself is top tier, but its meaningless if it requires you to play 25 hrs a day on 6 diff characters while also spending $$$ so you dont fall behind.
p.s. also a nice QoL feature would be an option to completely skip the story but still receive msq+island loot at a discounted rate (50%) so you dont feel like sht if you do or dont want to sit thru 100s of hours of obsolete story, make it optional...or maybe even add a cosmetic/title incentive for the diehard players. future story parts should be compulsory idm, but the archaic storylines from 1929 should not be...
If you didn't have to awaken cards, that would be absolutely insane. That would be the biggest W for Lost Ark, ever.
I quit because the raids were too sweaty. I'll come back if they make them easier or if I can solo them and not be forced to play with people. Make the rewards worse idc
BDO is a very bad example (some viewer used at the end of the video). You can play BDO as a solo player for all your playtime if you want, and it doesnt hinder you in any way. You can actually choose a lifeskill and live out of it, it's not like Lost Ark AT ALL.
14:35 I was doing necromancy on RS3 and I thought there was some wailing skeleton npc or something nearby.
Fresh servers will be good to combat the gatekeeping that happens on Lost Ark. May not last indefinitely, but it'll still be much better than it is on the current servers.
For me, personally ive found that im focusing more on less characters but doing more content. So a mix of both. I feel less overwhelmed and am enjoying characters i actually like to play. Anecdotal, but i think youll find players all over the spectrum of -"Just playing more content and more characters" to "Now i just play a lot less"
They can do whatever they want but until they rewamp raids to not be so horribly punishing, most people will not play. Pheons also need to go and the volume of the many chores such as grinding out NPCs or dailies also needs to be cut down significantly. I am not doing the same daily quest 30 times just to have a change at an item that I am missing to complete the region codex or whatever the stupid thing was called. No amount of easy mats is going to bring me back if that stuff isn't changed.
Normal mode raids are so chill. They changed brelshaza normal to give ancient gear, and only have to do normal akkann which will be piss easy too.
Normal kayangel as well. The hard mode versions nowadays don't rly have to be done to progress
@@DavidSchleigh Piss easy for you perhaps. For many people they are not. I do not actually mind having someone wipe and get carried but when they wipe and the entire raid automatically wipes, that's a nono for me.
@@MrHellweasel I wouldn't be against an easier mode giving mats too
so to get this straight instead of fixing the game they ask all the long term players to leave these things behind
- card progression
- gem progression
- engraving books
- gear quality
- alts
all those things take thousands of hours to progress bit by bit unless you p2w the shit out of the game
great fucking idea guys surely you wont kill the game even more with this
galaxy brain move
My wife and I left Lost Ark because on the days we could actually binge some gameplay (adults with kid, jobs, and house responsibilities) we were limited to just a couple hours of gameplay... unless we wanted to try our luck with 6 randoms who would inevitably rage quit after someone kept fucking up the raid. I don't understand why we have to cater to people with 0 self control by throttling productive gameplay time per day
Pheons are the only bottleneck for most players especially casual players. They serve no purpose other than income for the devs.
The funiest thing is, Stoops said " I dont' want to watch doomer videos like asmongold does" but Asmongold is the one of those guys, always say the true about what is going on.
I’ve returned to the game last week and just playing casually feels so much better. I raid with 3 characters and do dailies for the silver. Only negative is the toxic sweaty players who have 10 characters to play lol
Unless they are fresh servers with ALL cash shops removed, nothing has changed. The game is still pay-to-win which remains the core issue
? only pay to progress.
roster level 1? im out
They just try to suck all the money as much they can before they declare game dead.
The reason i stopped playing lost ark is because i have 0 intention to play multiple fucking characters to compete
Also I would just like to add that I have 1 character in lost ark at item lvl 1550 and I do not spend real money on this game, I don't get gate kept and I have around 800hrs in the game, don't let Asmonfold discourage you from playing Lost Ark. We all know Asmon humps wow day and night, thinking any game other than wow is trash garbage. Also if Asmon coined in LA , like he does in wow( or being given gold), He would like the game more, and in the long run, getting max item lvl in LA is cheaper than wow, But most importantly LA is a free game that does not require any money to be spent, and in the upcoming patch, they are basically paying you to play LA. WoW still makes you pay for that ClickBank graphic game that has the same quality as a fugin roblox server.
new servers bullshit but what about the founder i paid for should i just leave it there ??? fck no.
The combat in Lost Ark was so much fun. Then it killed the fun by gatekeeping the rest of the game lol
1490-1540 cost around 100k gold if you played dalies and have 4 weeks brelshaza raid for 1 month straight
What is the draw here? That I'd get to do all the boring ass horizontal progression again? That I'd get to experience being a 500 swiftness Taijutsu scrapper again? Fresh and innovative ways to be gatekept? Run 6 new characters through the Shift-G fiesta of a main story again?
i literally went back to the game tried to find teams to do legion raids with they wld literally not accept me in team cuz im 1490 so i deleted it again tried to lfg discords no one does the shit i want so i either pay for a bus with my gold or not get it done
How about servers with no P2W ))
where is P2W? only pay to progress :/
You can really tell expectations are low when people forget to bring up Pheons, it just doesn't feel like it's even in the cards huh?
Heres how you fix lost ark...make it 15 bucks a month, take out ALL the ptw, only have cosmetics. Boom, everyone is happy