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  • @ThomasAndy-qu8dp
    @ThomasAndy-qu8dp 10 днів тому +314

    im honestly quite satisfied that shes not utterly broken.
    She's a good character and she'll be even better later with more havoc character.

    • @Theutubedudeyo
      @Theutubedudeyo 10 днів тому +21

      Except she won't unless that havoc dps is basic attack focused, because if not then they will just get their own dedicated support for their damage type + havoc

    • @riccardototo9737
      @riccardototo9737 10 днів тому +2

      @@Theutubedudeyo i mean it depends also if the needs of grouping it's there

    • @keelangill4230
      @keelangill4230 10 днів тому +9

      @@Theutubedudeyo Her S2 makes her future proof tbh. But at S0, she's just alright.

    • @ThomasAndy-qu8dp
      @ThomasAndy-qu8dp 10 днів тому +14

      @@Theutubedudeyo i genuinely don't care honestly.
      It doesn't matter if she doesn't have a perfect partner, i care a lot more about the gameplay and interesting teams comp.
      That's what so good about the roster (so far, i expect it to go to shit at some point).

    • @DG_Toti
      @DG_Toti 10 днів тому +3

      @@Theutubedudeyo I stopped playing around the time Shorekeeper came out but I thought that’s what Camellya was supposed to be

  • @tnb4509
    @tnb4509 10 днів тому +220

    If wuwa was anything like hsr vars would've already dropped a 'Why no one plays Jiyan' by now. Thankfully my king still going strong.

    • @Terry-g7l4u
      @Terry-g7l4u 10 днів тому +21

      😂had to bench camellya for jiyan in the pincer event because he was good for it

    • @mroxkral7276
      @mroxkral7276 10 днів тому +40

      He just needs a proper 5 star support to truly pop off tbh

    • @meliho27
      @meliho27 10 днів тому +7

      @@mroxkral7276 that would possibly also end up like roccia unless the character is a off fielder like mortefi again

    • @escadora2206
      @escadora2206 10 днів тому +2

      Ye man i finally got to leveling Xiangli Yao and even tho changli and camellyas team are my favs he does slap and has excellent aoe and is really fun. Its so good to not feel like you handicap yourself by switching things up every now and then :D

    • @mroxkral7276
      @mroxkral7276 10 днів тому

      @ emphasis on "Proper"

  • @ellietomiko5405
    @ellietomiko5405 10 днів тому +289

    You skip Roccia because she's not interesting to you. Im skipping Roccia because i dont wanna risk my chances on Phoebe, we are not the same

    • @kdashchronicles5204
      @kdashchronicles5204 10 днів тому +9

      Phoebe is Father Mosguz from Berserk 🎉

    • @inser3882
      @inser3882 10 днів тому +9

      Miss squishy

    • @rexevan6714
      @rexevan6714 10 днів тому +5

      CardCaptor Sakura

    • @little_error295
      @little_error295 10 днів тому +7

      Am I the only one who doesn’t understand what this comment is trying to say

    • @Otherface
      @Otherface 10 днів тому +2

      Finally, a based reason to skip Roccia (I didn't, but still...)

  • @jinx3709
    @jinx3709 10 днів тому +98

    Imo, she's a pretty balanced character with amazing grouping capabilities. However, currently we don't have many instances where we need grouping, it may change in future and tgen she would be top-tier like Kazuha. I must say, her design is so freaking amazing, i wonder how Kuro ends up making such exquisite characters everytime, love her design so much.

    • @camillecutler6868
      @camillecutler6868 3 дні тому

      honestly my main problem with her is how much better it is for Camellya to just get a sequence- even if all investment is going to Camellya, getting a sequence will usually just be better, especially if you are right about to get one of her better sequences.

  • @kotenks9007
    @kotenks9007 10 днів тому +9

    She's basically perfect, she's not utterly broken at all which is what the game doesn't want their characters to be, they're wanting the players to rely on their skills of playing the game with the characters as the tools to get them to the highest point of the games combat. So I'd say that this is a perfect win for Kuro they're keeping it up with not making such overpowered or broken characters

    • @astralcomet674
      @astralcomet674 10 днів тому

      She's basically not worth it stick to sanuha. Save your pulls your money and resources cause I weep for the souls that thought this was a good investment. But im happy for those that just like the character 😃

  • @OTCThermal
    @OTCThermal 10 днів тому +60

    Getting her to buff Rover even more! Especially, with new havoc characters on the way.

  • @julianorodrigues4914
    @julianorodrigues4914 10 днів тому +131

    complain when a character is broken, complain when it's not, complain about powercreep and complain when a new character don't powercreep all other supports
    damn

    • @oraengae
      @oraengae 10 днів тому +42

      i know right? im p pleased with Roccia, she's just right and a very good cc. Plus she's super fun and works well w Cam and HMC, two vv busted units and im sure we'll get more havoc dps down the line. She's a bit similar to zhezhi but for havoc (i love her too). I've only liked one of Vars' wuwa vids so far, i think he needs to recalibrate and consider more povs

    • @drfrekz4868
      @drfrekz4868 10 днів тому +4

      all the shit you just mentioned are indeed worth of a complain

    • @Tnt0Tony0Tnt
      @Tnt0Tony0Tnt 10 днів тому +4

      i mean, to be completely fair, its totally okay for a 2.0 5 star to powercreep a release 4 star that is left at level 1 with no gear

    • @Chestyfriend
      @Chestyfriend 10 днів тому +2

      A limited 5* should be allowed to powercreep a 4*.

    • @daesong1378
      @daesong1378 10 днів тому

      Meh it’s the same thing with “remakes” complain because it’s different, complain because there’s nothing new.

  • @drakula839
    @drakula839 10 днів тому +47

    I don't want WuWa to get Acheroned, so the fact that Roccia is BALANCED is a plus to me

    • @BonelessReed
      @BonelessReed 9 днів тому +5

      This. I don't want the deal with the same power creep hell from other gacha games

    • @DefinitelyNotAFerret
      @DefinitelyNotAFerret 8 днів тому +2

      Unfortunately… Cartethiya might be the Acheron

    • @MonsieurCat1
      @MonsieurCat1 6 днів тому +1

      A character having dio elements doesn't make her broken Kuro knows how yo properly balance characters unlike Hoyo..... It's been like that since the PGR days and Kuro drops buffs for older units once in a while to make them viable in the meta again( They recently did it in WuWa too Spectro Rover kit buff)...So, believe in Kuro

    • @asura8971
      @asura8971 2 дні тому

      @@DefinitelyNotAFerret Well.. Jinhsi is the Acheron and all the other units deal near the same dps as her since she is a special SSR (Sentinel Resonator)

  • @urboykaii
    @urboykaii 10 днів тому +4

    This girl is so fun to use idk but that bounce is so satisfying

  • @KatrinaAmaxas
    @KatrinaAmaxas 10 днів тому +26

    Honestly, I pulled her because she and Zani are the main two Rinascita characters I like most. Her being a good fit for my Havoc Rover (since I only just started playing after the PS5 release) is kind of just a bonus.

    • @flzerocs
      @flzerocs 10 днів тому +1

      wasnt planning to pull for her, but i kind of wanted for rover, so i did 40 pulls then stop, funny i got her at 30s, and yeah, she pushed my rover even higher dps wise.

  • @snow0708
    @snow0708 10 днів тому +40

    The worst part about Roccia is, whenever she is interrupted mid air, you have to charge up to jump again, wasting 2-3 more second. This makes camellyas attack-window extremly tight and you can't make a single mistake or Shorekeepers Ult will run out.

    • @doommaker4000
      @doommaker4000 10 днів тому +7

      Same for Camellya. DO NOT get interrupted on her enhanced E

    • @hungerdanceofkaa
      @hungerdanceofkaa 10 днів тому +4

      I imagine we will get a limited shielder / healer with interruption resistance at some point that could be a new best in slot sustain for our chaotic havoc girlies

    • @tetraavalon3664
      @tetraavalon3664 10 днів тому +4

      @@hungerdanceofkaa Like hell they'll release a character that completely invalidates the game's core mechanics(dodge+counter).

    • @lunaticyoshi1
      @lunaticyoshi1 10 днів тому +2

      Doesn't her S1 fix this? Just whip out the credit card and the problem's solved. 💰💰💰

    • @hungerdanceofkaa
      @hungerdanceofkaa 10 днів тому +5

      @@tetraavalon3664 please use your brain. I’m talking about stabilizing rotations for comfort / reliability, not invalidating game mechanics. People will still get one shot by high level holograms regardless of any sustain unit no matter how broken so there is plenty of opportunity to git gud

  • @gamer_jss
    @gamer_jss 10 днів тому +4

    Star rail players when the character doesn't power creep a unit that came out 2 months ago

  • @palomaconbotas44
    @palomaconbotas44 10 днів тому +31

    Idk why I'm so lucky, my luck used to be the worst, now I just pulled Carlotta, Jhinsi and Roccia in 60 pulls. And I still have many astrites saved for Pheobe, the one I was going to pull for, but when i gave a try to Carlotta's banner and got it in my first try, I got confident and look now. I passed from only a SK to all this in less than a month, it's crazy.

    • @GamerHoodUK
      @GamerHoodUK 10 днів тому +1

      Do u do single or multi pulls? Ur very lucky

    • @askiater
      @askiater 10 днів тому +6

      Yea, maybe it's only me, but since the launch of the game i'm losing every 50/50 and always really close to max pity, so for me every character is basically requires ~160 pulls.
      So today when i once again lose 50/50 i wasn't even surprised)

    • @palomaconbotas44
      @palomaconbotas44 10 днів тому

      @@GamerHoodUK Multi, but I got Jinshi and Roccia doing single cuz I didn't wanna spend more, so I just used my 10 remaining tides and got Jinshi in the first and Roccia in the last. It seems like kuro doesn't want me to stop pulling. I was gonna skip all for Pheobe cuz I like her.

    • @Anika9691
      @Anika9691 10 днів тому

      ​@@askiaterits not you, i lost 50/50 on carlotta and left till 3.0 cause most of the woman in upcoming patches dont interest ne and brant seems like changli support and i dont want changli cause she feels bad to play, phoebe looks interesting wirh her magical hirl playstyle but i dont want her that bad, i wanted carlotta but i think i am fine now and wont even pull on rerun.

  • @F1ll1nTh3Blanks
    @F1ll1nTh3Blanks 10 днів тому +60

    I like her gameplay and find her fun, even if she's not super busted at base currently. As long as she's fun that's enough.
    As for her design, I think it's fine but I don't really like child characters in general. So if there's any downside to her, it's just that, she's a child.

    • @Ao-vj9pz
      @Ao-vj9pz 10 днів тому +1

      I like her fireworks animation and the theatrical elements. I haven't played Roccia's story quest so I'm just guessing based on the main story. She is mature (despite her shyness) bc she was exiled and became part of the troop at a young age. The gap between her age and maturity might make her a compelling character. But this is solely based on guessing so I might be wrong.

    • @hallyuniverse
      @hallyuniverse 10 днів тому +1

      I mean she is really strong, the main issue is Sanhua is the best 4* unit in the game and currently fills the same meta role as Roccia. Roccia's rotation is slightly longer than Sanhua's but she contributes 5-6x more damage than Sanhua. I think she'll gain value as Camellya's dedicated support once we get a 2nd Normal ATK DMG DPS.

    • @Ealdor-Bana
      @Ealdor-Bana 7 днів тому +1

      100% agree on her age issue. I don’t understand why Asian games have such fascination on child characters. I watch a lot of anime and any shows that star actual young children always puts me off watching them. I get some cultures find them “cute” or “innocent” but to me it’s a bit strange to be this obsessed with child characters.
      The worst this about these characters is when people cosplaying them and creepy 45 year old men are taking pictures while getting ecstatic seeing them. Not saying these “men” are you know but it does look bad.

  • @okioki5957
    @okioki5957 3 дні тому +1

    I got her in a random 10 pull and fell in love with her throughout the main quest, I decided to pull her weapon bc I don't have any 5 star weapons for her, I got 2 of them in a 10 pull.. not much later got her rc1 due to another 10 pull on her banner ❤ I use her with camellya and still building her but I truly adore her ♡
    (Also saving up for phoebe)

  • @jaikapur2662
    @jaikapur2662 8 днів тому +1

    I pulled for her because I have decided to pull for every dark (havoc) character in game cause lowkey I love darkness element/abilities, so it’s a win for me :)

  • @zeodark2761
    @zeodark2761 7 днів тому +1

    Roccia actually does crazy personal damage aside from her ult. Shes been awesome to have

  • @maikoymokspg163
    @maikoymokspg163 10 днів тому +3

    Imo, we shouldnt ask for more powerful characters that outperform others by a huge margin.
    Just the fact that she has high concerto and deal her own dps is useful in dual dps teams (you could use her on all teams, not caring about outro and just caring about her dmg and ult buff)

  • @ClowReedx
    @ClowReedx 10 днів тому +8

    She's fun, you quickswap every bounce and you don't fall as red Camellya.

  • @Bashtiks
    @Bashtiks 10 днів тому +5

    I might pull for her just because of her amazing design

  • @moonlight...3754
    @moonlight...3754 10 днів тому +1

    I have got Roccia and her signature weapon. I love her design and that was enough of a reason for me to pull her, but I'm also a Camellya main on top of that

  • @danielferrieri7434
    @danielferrieri7434 10 днів тому +83

    Video Idea: Why No One/Everyone Plays: Jinhsi

    • @Deko_Alexander
      @Deko_Alexander 10 днів тому +41

      It's def why everyone plays jinhsi. She is strongest dps cuz of how quick she can deliver soo much dmg soo fast and has such a small downtime

    • @TheMentallyTired
      @TheMentallyTired 10 днів тому +7

      ​​@@Deko_AlexanderShe is not 'quick' her forte bar is quite a hassle to fill if you don't have a good coordination attack. I get what you mean as when if you feel her forte is done before swapping an outro to her just need intro > skill > auto attack > skill again which is relatively quick but her DMG build up is lets just say needs a fueling

    • @Deko_Alexander
      @Deko_Alexander 10 днів тому +12

      @TheMentallyTired for me using verina and zhezhi usually dosent take long to fill forte. Ig I can understand getting her forte without them could be hard

    • @luciferbrown2304
      @luciferbrown2304 10 днів тому +26

      Jinshi forte bar fills really fast in her bis team. And there is not a single reason why u would not use that team

    • @lucassa5083
      @lucassa5083 10 днів тому +1

      ​@@Deko_Alexanderwow 2 coordinated attackers no shit

  • @soulannihilator3185
    @soulannihilator3185 10 днів тому +3

    This is the content I've been looking for! Guess I'll save my resources since I'm quite contented with Sanhua as my Camelya's buffer.

  • @Shinku7
    @Shinku7 10 днів тому +12

    I prefer it this way. Not all new characters need to be broken. I don't want WuWa to have the same fast powercreep as hsr

    • @Ealdor-Bana
      @Ealdor-Bana 7 днів тому

      No one wants that bud. My only concern is that for a ok but realistically meh 5* she is way to expensive for what she can do.
      However she is fun and i loved her in the story but i will skip as she isn’t need for me even though i have camellya. I just wish the character pity was lower so WuWa could be the new golden standard in gacha games. I love the weapons are guaranteed but it still copies Genshin formula way too much.

    • @zealgaming8161
      @zealgaming8161 7 днів тому +1

      @@Ealdor-Bana This is the way they should proceed in my opinion no character should be "needed" like Shorekeeper. Slow and steady power creep that keep units relevant for 3 years or more is my wish. With Kuro adding more and more ways to field multiple teams.
      PGR use 5-6 teams now almost daily but has too fast powercreep imo.

  • @hungerdanceofkaa
    @hungerdanceofkaa 10 днів тому +5

    1:23 I just noticed that her last mama mia bounce makes a smiley face with fireworks and that’s hilariously adorable 😆🎆🤌

  • @tiberiaanorlondo4438
    @tiberiaanorlondo4438 10 днів тому +2

    I pulled S6R1 Roccia. Achieved it in 400 pulls exactly. No clue if thats good or not.
    I wanted to get S6R1 simply because, I loved her design and gameplay. Did not care that she is not a meta pick.

  • @tasenova2717
    @tasenova2717 10 днів тому +6

    Vars, but she is going to be worth the next Havoc DPS guaranteed isn't she?

    • @Noggintoggin
      @Noggintoggin 10 днів тому +3

      That's my game plan. I feel like roccia will be the Kazuha of this game and be considered op eventually.

  • @dotalbo8279
    @dotalbo8279 10 днів тому +3

    My biggest question mark regarding roccia’s character design is that, as of now, she is clearly designed for camellya. And yet her secondary draw is grouping? I have never had a scenario where camellya needed grouping.
    Kuro is trying to appeal to camellya mains and people who need a grouper, but while doing so spread themselves too thin. I think if they wanted her to be a grouper, make her a sub-dps grouper. If they wanted her to be havoc buffer (like shenhe for cyro in genshin), make her more potent.

  • @MonsieurCat1
    @MonsieurCat1 6 днів тому

    I loved this Vid Vars..... It's really Comprehensive review of her

  • @TrungPurpVN
    @TrungPurpVN 10 днів тому +2

    My guess is that Phoebe will be a basic attack dmg character, and who's going to be her best teammate?
    Yes. Sanhua of course

  • @iTouchin
    @iTouchin 10 днів тому +6

    I had to do it... For the Mama mia.

  • @lqfr8813
    @lqfr8813 8 днів тому +1

    the only problem i have with roccia is i cannot observe carefully what the boss is doing when roccia is jumping around. my eyes cannot keep up with constant motion on the jump and be ready to dodge boss attack

  • @UpwardTBC
    @UpwardTBC 9 днів тому +2

    Yes absolutely bro. She-s just a CC character for fun. Got her in 30pulls, and i woundt continue pulling more than that. And sanhua is better for speedrunnin too

  • @Robert_GL
    @Robert_GL 10 днів тому

    Glad to see that dude's been on a redemption arc since that bad wuwa teambuilding rant video. Every wuwa video after that was on point, keep up the good work

  • @cherrycookie85
    @cherrycookie85 10 днів тому +1

    I love her design so much ❤ I did get her and her weapon early. Saving for Phoebe now 😊

  • @keikeikeis
    @keikeikeis 10 днів тому +3

    roccia to me marks a very interesting direction for wuwa. Shorekeeper's buff was already pretty tight with cameylla. with roccia, it's almost impossible to get the special intro if you do cameylla full rotation. that's assuming perfect scenario without the need to dodge. With sanhua, it's fairly easy. I don't think damage calculators taken this into account all that much.
    But guess what? S1 shorekeeper extends it by 10seconds. It almost feels as though, If you want the best for cameylla, you will want roccia. but also shorekeeper s1 or you basically "brick" an arguably significant part of SK's kit.
    Not sure how I feel about that. But it is there.

    • @brimald7617
      @brimald7617 8 днів тому +2

      Camellya + Roccia full rotation lasts 28s, Shorekeeper’s ult lasts 30s. That’s enough to work with. If you get attacked on Camellya you just need to dodge, which will give you more concerto so your rotation time isn’t changing much, unless you get hit. And if you get hit that’s not on the character

  • @DefinitelyNotAFerret
    @DefinitelyNotAFerret 8 днів тому +1

    I do want Roccia, I really do, but Brant is just way too close 😭 I might pull on her rerun if another havoc buffer doesn’t come out

  • @cosmobrowniess
    @cosmobrowniess 7 днів тому

    as a new player i’m so apprehensive about spending after the whole hsr 2.x. idk that i can vertical invest since there are other units i really want but like… she’s a clown! and good for my favorite character! aghhhhh

  • @enzorocha2977
    @enzorocha2977 День тому

    9:13 This, 100%. I passed on Zhezhi thinking she was a one-off, but lo and behold, that girl is fire in this patch. I feel Roccia will blossom the same way, but we'll just have to wait a bit to see if that gets to be undisputed fact.

  • @poposao1
    @poposao1 10 днів тому +1

    I liked her design and gameplay, but I dont really see many scenarios where she's an outright upgrade for Sanhua in my Camellya team

  • @zeeros1639
    @zeeros1639 10 днів тому

    Amazing, this is the video i was looking for. As i don't have Camellya but plan to get her, i wanted to know Roccia's value. Definitely saving $ for me.

  • @ceallaighkirk8679
    @ceallaighkirk8679 9 днів тому

    Thank you for the video. I was on the fence about whether to pull for her. She is freaking adorable! I loved playing with her during a quest, I think it was. 🤔 She is a lot of fun. Luck wasn't with me pulling for Cam, so I'm not feeling the need to have Roccia now. But I have many of the greats so I've been fortunate. Besides, I'm sure Roccia will have a rerun at some point.

  • @tadk1312
    @tadk1312 10 днів тому +1

    I normally hate kid characters in gachas but I like her a lot. Her design and pero as her buddy is really likeable and feel genuinely unique. Also I really like her gameplay as a subdps

  • @schnader
    @schnader 10 днів тому +1

    As a f2p player with poor luck on event banners, I don't mind skipping this one for some of the upcoming characters.

  • @arizona_anime_fan
    @arizona_anime_fan 10 днів тому +5

    the basic problem is roccia doesn't give a significantly bigger buff then sanhua, her buff is narrowly focused on camillya, and it's only for 14 seconds, when camillya requires probably closer to 30 seconds. when you add in all the extra time she needs on field it really doesn't matter how much damage she does, she's chewing away shorekeeper's buff making it even less likely camillya, at the best part of her rotation, will be able to do best damage. furthermore while her damage is good, as is her grouping, she doesn't touch camillya's dps, so every second she's on field she's hurting the team's dps, effectively neutralizing whatever dps buff she might have given to camillya's team over sanhua.
    and on top of that, her best echo set for buffing camillya is moonlit. not the new havok set, not the old havok set. moonlit. why? because since her buff isn't anything to write home about, you sorta need moonlit buff camillya to bridge the dps gap from her long field time. oh right, and it's nice she's a grouper (which i think in the end is going to be her meta, not buffing) but camillya might be the only main dps who really doesn't need much of a grouper in the first place; being muc more aoe focused.
    The fact she represents at most a 2% dps gain on camillya teams, over c6 sanhua sort of is damning.
    BTW vers, I lo e your content but I don't trust you numbers. Maygii did the numbers and something is wrong with the calls your using. I've followed Maygii content since Tower of Fantasy and her number crunching is second to none.
    According to her numbers Rocca is a +2% gain on dps with her sig weapon ar r0 over r6 sanhua. Crazier still r1 Rocca is a dps loss vs c6 sanhua, like a -1% loss. It's not till r2 we see major dps gains (and they get pretty significant past r2)... and that's with her best echo set for camillya teams. Moonlit. Yeah. You need to put her on moonlit to get her that close to sanhua.
    I'm not starting a beef, maygii would be the first person to say her numbers assume ideal rotations.

  • @TridentH20
    @TridentH20 10 днів тому +2

    That's the trade off of having relative balance in a game.
    As a "specialist" support she is a slight upgrade in her best team and a slight downgrade when played off role.
    It makes it feel less bad when you pull characters for personal preference as opposed to meta.
    Her damage, cc, and playstyle are all very nice.
    Definitely getting her on her rerun. I just need to secure my Shorekeeper and Zani first😅.
    Havok Rover main btw. In the mean time I'll use Danjin/Baizhi.

  • @SentryConstruct-dt4
    @SentryConstruct-dt4 10 днів тому +2

    Im gonna protect Roccia at all cost

  • @walnut7137
    @walnut7137 10 днів тому

    I pulled for her s2 because mamma mia. She’s too much fun!

  • @jasont3348
    @jasont3348 8 днів тому

    Got her at 21 pity and her weapon at 5 pity. So far, even unbuilt, you can already notice how high her damage is with a decent build, her demo didn't really do her justice. With Shorekeeper, she's pretty op. Downside is, she can get interrupted if she plunges during an attack

  • @gangrel1234
    @gangrel1234 10 днів тому

    Im saving everything after getting Carlotta and the last dance for Brant, wished to be able to get roccia, she’s amazing😢

  • @DorkNamedHope
    @DorkNamedHope 10 днів тому

    Her selling point is the grouping mechanics of her kit.

  • @KazeMemaryu
    @KazeMemaryu 9 днів тому

    I screwed up hard, accidently did a 10-pull on her banner when I just wanted to check my pull history, and got Roccia immediately. That effectively wasted my lost 50/50, which I wanted to keep for Zani. I cannot afford to roll for her weapon, since I'm already out of the 100% guarantee range with this slip-up.
    So I looked at her kit, and the Liberation is frustrating, to say the least. Her utility in general is nice, since we didn't have good grouping until Roccia (Yangang and Jianxin don't really work that well), and it's good that she can hold her own instead of just lightly tapping enemies to build up Forte and Concerto. But getting her Crit Rate up without her Signature is pure pain. Even if I went 4/4/1/1/1, she wouldn't pass the 50% mark, not to mention the hefty loss in personal damage from the lack of COST 3 echoes. Considering it's part of her kit, I hate that she doesn't actually have any boosts for her own Crit Rate anywhere, except one 10% bonus in RC3. Sure, I can grind out Echoes for Crit Rate substats, but substat balancing is one of the worst parts in Wuthering.

  • @nagasolaire8462
    @nagasolaire8462 9 днів тому

    I pulled her and her weapon just because i enjoy her gameplay, its really fun 👾

  • @gizmo928
    @gizmo928 10 днів тому

    Honestly I didn’t want her but I pulled for fun on the weapon banner, first 10 pull I got 2 copies of her weapon so I felt obligated to pull her (lost 50/50) and had to spend to get her, I didn’t prefarm so she ate my resources but she has a fun playstyle. She’s starting to grow on me. I’m planning on pulling for Brant and phoebe as well 😊

  • @dusc4
    @dusc4 10 днів тому

    i dont think its a problem but a feature we get a "not MUST pull" character for f2p people. much apreciated kuro thanks

  • @ricardokojin7
    @ricardokojin7 10 днів тому +1

    I like her, she is on my team RN.... but not with any Havoc unit (just because immune enemies exist)... I just like the whole grouping stuff and how she plays. (having said that, I'm always more of a "have fun" sort of guy than a 'pick the best team and rotation" guy...even if I end up getting like 100 astrites less in a week )

  • @sarbca
    @sarbca 4 дні тому

    I got her on my first ten pull back into the game so I have no choice now lol plus I LOVEEE her grouping

  • @TRak598
    @TRak598 10 днів тому +10

    Her S2 is great, but it's worth mentioning that Shorekeeper's S2 also does about the same without any of Roccia's drawbacks (that is, being Havoc-Exclusive and preceded by a borderline useless S1); If you don't have Shorekeeper's S2 already and you have to choose between it (it's a matter of some few months before a rerun occurs) and Roccia's, definitely go for the former.
    All in all, S0R0 Roccia's only real selling point is her ability to to free up Sanhua for Encore. And the one she's freeing up Sanhua from is Camellya, exclusively.
    Rover-Havoc isn't worth mentioning for this dilemma because S6 Danjin, whom many players do have, is probably a better alternative in possession of Midnight Veil than S6 Sanhua is to begin with (and thus there's no competition for who will use Sanhua); In such a team, Rover's Basic Attack usage is reduced as they become more of a bot, while Danjin goes around weaving actual combos to maximize her personal damage potential (the main point of using Midnight Veil over Moonlit Clouds).
    Of course, you can use Roccia for Rover-Havoc if you have no Camellya, but come on... That's not worth pulling for.
    As for her weapon, easy skip as well.
    First things first, as you said, it's a weapon meant for a support character and yet it provides no support capabilities. If you have Verity's Handle (Xiangli Yao's weapon), just use it instead and call it a day.
    Second, whether you equip her with Midnight Veil or with Moonlit Clouds, there's always the option for the usage of 2x 4-cost CR main Echoes (Nightmare Heron + Lorelei for Veil and Normal Heron + Geochelone for Clouds), which makes it easy for her to reach 70% CR and get her Liberation 200 ATK Bonus going on, even without a CR weapon.
    TL; DR: Don't bother with her entirely unless you have both Camellya and Encore, and you also like playing both concurrently in Tower of Adversity / Pincer Maneuver Warriors (recurrent Event). Or if you obviously like her a lot; And if you do pull for her, keep in mind that her weapon is one of the worst investments you can make and that her first two sequences fall short of Shorekeeper's.

    • @allai927
      @allai927 10 днів тому +1

      Wish I had read this an hour earlier rip. At least shes cute

    • @Eldritchpi
      @Eldritchpi 10 днів тому

      While I agree, I have to disagree with even the idea of pulling her at all for Encore. Brant is coming and a FAR better option. My Encore is absolutely cracked, and she will definitely be getting brant and paired with my sanhua, who is also absolutely cracked.
      My Encore is s4 with 120Er, 2.6k att, 97%fusion, 37%basic, 23% skill, 78% Cr and 290%Cd with yinlin wpn. S6 sanhua hits around 230k inside her burst window so I cannot wait to see what brant does for her with all his utility.
      Tl;Dr. Pulling her for encore is stupid.

    • @TRak598
      @TRak598 10 днів тому

      @@Eldritchpi It's not for Encore per se.
      It's so Camellya and Encore won't fight for Sanhua. Brant will not be optimized for Encore AFAIK, so it's all between Changli and Sanhua... And supposing that you not only lack Changli, but a well-built one, Sanhua is simply the best option.

    • @duytran9086
      @duytran9086 10 днів тому

      Her weapon + liberation is ass tbh. You are pretty much forced to pull for her weapon if you want optimal performance/max buffing capabilities, but the thing is her weapon literally doesn't synergize with any Gauntlet users.

  • @1.0xY.m0r0n
    @1.0xY.m0r0n 10 днів тому

    I got her for a future Camellya rerun. Plus I really like her design.

  • @prophet4722
    @prophet4722 10 днів тому

    Well, in Roccia's defence, even in S0 she might perform better than calculated as the havoc focused tower is going to boost both camellya and roccia damage. But honestly I have a feeling Kuro is going to bring the PGR's warzone in Wuwa. And damn is she going to shine if that happens

  • @KaiSaeren
    @KaiSaeren 4 дні тому

    Im genuinely happy with the way they are doing characters atm, visually they are stunning of course but the fact that they are mainly sidegrades means I can mostly pull for who I want rather than who I feel like I should. Im sure some will be dissapointed that the new shiny thing isnt beating out everything else by a mile but I dont mind, I like using characters I enjoy storywise and want them to stay relevant for a long time so powercreep is definitely an enemy to me.
    Tho I do get your argument about her being a hard sell even in her niche, which can be a bit of a problem, but again, you can simply pull for her because you like her and she still fulfills her role very well, not to mention that in the future there will be more and more havoc units etc, some may even fit her better. I get where you are coming from dont get me wrong, but I do hope that the devs wont see this stuff and try to go over the board next time.

  • @CrescentTheWolf
    @CrescentTheWolf 10 днів тому +6

    Skip, My Camellya is already busted with Sanhua, Saving my pulls for Phoebe and Zani but good luck to those pulling.

    • @sicawhoremanchester6821
      @sicawhoremanchester6821 10 днів тому

      that's what im sayin, i went all out on Camellya, got her s4 and she hits so damn hard. At this point, a character taking time away from my Camellya is a detriment

  • @Armadan7
    @Armadan7 10 днів тому

    At resonance 2, 70% crit, and using the midnight veil set she buffs Tsubaki by %75 extra havoc, +200 attack, and 25% basic attack dmg.
    Uhh yeah that's a must pull.

  • @Annoyer999
    @Annoyer999 10 днів тому +1

    Yeah she is too niche atm with not enough benefit to back it up. It's why I'm sticking to S0 and no weapon. But I really, really like her so I'm going to build her mainly her for the grouping to make overworld farming more fun/more convenient and hope she'll get a better gauntlet in the future that will be less specific and more generic, as well as more havoc units to synergize with. For now I'll share Xiangli Yao's weapon. If she doesn't, I won't be bothered since I'll still get her fantastic grouping and overworld farming convenience

  • @LordScat
    @LordScat 10 днів тому +2

    I'm drained with Charlotte and her sign 😭

  • @Creeperific
    @Creeperific 10 днів тому +1

    0:42 Encore: Am I not cute enough? T^T

  • @Raedralisk
    @Raedralisk 10 днів тому

    Goldclear stellarealm!
    Anyway... Nice video!

  • @MagisterialVoyager
    @MagisterialVoyager 10 днів тому

    cute, but i pull mostly for vibe, lol. she's so adorable and i love her design, so i will pull her and play her. (i think not of team comp 51% of the time.)

  • @theampeel
    @theampeel 10 днів тому +1

    Just what i needed for my Danjin hypercarry

    • @Altair_Ibn_La_Ahad
      @Altair_Ibn_La_Ahad 10 днів тому

      DAAAAAAANJIIIIIIIN

    • @Gheniel_
      @Gheniel_ 10 днів тому

      Danjin basic attacks make no dmg, her heavy attack is where most of her dmg is so having mortefi is a better option in this case. Roccia is good for HRover, Camellya and Taoqi DPS.

    • @theampeel
      @theampeel 10 днів тому

      @@Gheniel_ Roccia buffs basic atk AND havoc dmg. That's extremely more valuable than an heavy atk buff (which is 24% of Danjin's dmg). That's not even accounting for crowd control, more personal dmg than Mortefi and the much better use of Midnight Veil, which buffs more than Moonlit.

    • @Gheniel_
      @Gheniel_ 10 днів тому

      @theampeel ok that makes sense

    • @nousagi5837
      @nousagi5837 10 днів тому

      @@Gheniel_ danjin has no aoe outside her heavy atk (and if your close enuf liberation) so roccia fixes her aoe problem

  • @doctornoodlearms1770
    @doctornoodlearms1770 10 днів тому

    I think Roccia has a pretty good incentive to pull for her
    Mama mia
    Aventi
    Figurati

  • @ayylmao633
    @ayylmao633 10 днів тому +37

    Thank god Roccia came out, I can save for Zani.

    • @CrescentTheWolf
      @CrescentTheWolf 10 днів тому +10

      Might have to also save up for Phoebe if rumors are true that she’s Zanis BIS

    • @axandraalex5869
      @axandraalex5869 10 днів тому

      @@CrescentTheWolf if the rumours are true then i'm skipping zani cuz she kind of a jihnsi replacement element wise

    • @CrescentTheWolf
      @CrescentTheWolf 10 днів тому +1

      @@axandraalex5869 to each their own, I’m pulling Zani cause she’s my favorite designed character so far in wuwa, I’m a sucker for demon women in suits 😍

    • @little_error295
      @little_error295 10 днів тому +1

      Zain not even close yet lol

    • @Otherface
      @Otherface 10 днів тому

      Not wanting to fully defend Roccia as a fanboy or anything, but with that logic, you should be grateful that any other character exist just because you can skip all of them for Zani.

  • @renorzeta
    @renorzeta 10 днів тому

    i picked her up mostly cuz i like to get all character second for her Utility any Havoc or Basic Atk would still good for her in the future and utility also helping. even tho right now it not that difficult to kills the mobs in Tower or any other gamemode but it just another grid of her utility.

    • @astralcomet674
      @astralcomet674 10 днів тому

      yeah no...The Havoc bonus yes the basic attack no just use sanuha and save the pulls.

  • @ChiriKain
    @ChiriKain 10 днів тому

    i wish they would release a new main echo for the veil set, one with more buffs for the incoming char that could help to make her a bit stronger support.
    but anyway im a bit disappointed with her base performance coming from s6 sanhua, but considering i wasnt really expecting to get her (spent most my pulls on jinhsi weapon and i just did 2 ten pulls for roccia winning the 5050 also) i guess its fine to free sanhua for carlotta, if i had went to double pity for her id be sad.

  • @DisIngRaM
    @DisIngRaM 10 днів тому

    Overall it's a good release.
    So some players can save their pull and it's not a horrible powercreep.

  • @jmbrady1
    @jmbrady1 10 днів тому

    the way I see it, if ya hate using Danjin, but want to play havoc, get her

  • @Ohhsoodead
    @Ohhsoodead 8 днів тому

    Chars in this game don't get released often enough to be so picky that you wouldn't pull a char simply because it's not a big enough improvement. If you like a char just pull them, otherwise u could be waiting several/many months just for someone that pairs well with your favourite character like Camellya or Havoc Rover. Coral system also means vertical investment is easily doable over time, meaning anyone that really likes the havoc team can easily get more sequences for Camellya and Roccia on their reruns.
    IMO just pull if u like the element or if it's your main team and have fun with the game, otherwise u might be waiting a long damn time for the next char to fill that slot for Camellya.

  • @yami_tiww6904
    @yami_tiww6904 10 днів тому +1

    Beside the raw numbers, she provides a lot in aoe and grouping enemies. Which her value shines more in my opinion.

  • @martygon
    @martygon 5 днів тому

    I have make her as my main damage dealer with mortefi and verina. And I love it I know her ult does not much but i do a lot of damage with her other skills because mortefi boost her heavy Attack

  • @thewritevibe
    @thewritevibe 10 днів тому

    I have a guarantee, will use it for Shorekeeper ❤

  • @ChristianPerez-ku9dz
    @ChristianPerez-ku9dz 10 днів тому

    I figured bunny since she's purple and we already have 3 other chibis in red, blue and green

  • @blueberry7478
    @blueberry7478 9 днів тому

    Her game play is so fun! Kuro dev want us to have bexause tbey love their game and the players. ❤

  • @sillygoober752
    @sillygoober752 10 днів тому

    Imagine pulling for a 5 star sanhua who is only better with camellya (encore still wants sanhua verina)

  • @Enigma-u5k
    @Enigma-u5k 10 днів тому

    Brant, Phoebe and Zani next this is a Yoimyia level setup.

  • @lean9349
    @lean9349 10 днів тому +1

    10 respect pull, S6 Danjin. I'll take it. See you at the rerun Roccia 😂

  • @RoyalTfrii
    @RoyalTfrii 10 днів тому

    Her kit is good and might get better as we get more havoc dps characters down the line

  • @phantomsnare5925
    @phantomsnare5925 9 днів тому

    The video is META perspective, I understand tho

  • @SignOne
    @SignOne 10 днів тому +1

    I cannot help but see the many parallels to kazuha release vs sucrose when people talk about roccia release vs sanhua. People had their c6 sucroses and were like "nah he's barely better, easy skip" but then he started to dominate end game with his insane grouping and everyone regretted not getting him. WW situation could be different but honestly there are many similarities. Roccia is not as universal thanks to her s2 being havoc bonus etc so it's not 1-to-1

  • @Frogswampperson
    @Frogswampperson 10 днів тому

    I would love to pull for her, but i dont have shorekeeper, and i really wanna make sure i can get zani when she releases, and i feel like i nees to skip a banner or 2 to focus on building. If she ages like zhezhi i will get her on a rerun

  • @tharateptrongpanyachot6046
    @tharateptrongpanyachot6046 10 днів тому

    Since I don't have Camellya. I don't really need her in my account. On top of that, I just got S6 Danjin, so I am building her for my Havoc Rover. I also am saving for Brant.

  • @13r4ykai2
    @13r4ykai2 10 днів тому

    Had 12000 free astrite built up and got her and her weapon with 4700 left over😫

  • @satyamgupta5746
    @satyamgupta5746 10 днів тому +7

    I think her main selling point is her grouping but do you really them?? Aside from pincer manuever
    Unless they make that gamemode a recurring endgame then she will have a lot potential like himeko and herta in hsr

    • @someoneinasia
      @someoneinasia 10 днів тому +1

      her grouping also doesn't seem very wide reaching either. which is disappointing

    • @sicawhoremanchester6821
      @sicawhoremanchester6821 10 днів тому

      well pincer manuever has come back what 3-4 times now? safe to say it's likely here to stay tbh

    • @astralcomet674
      @astralcomet674 10 днів тому

      Nah she a flop. Not hating or anything (i am) she isnt worth 160 pulls (in the event you lose the 50/50)

    • @someoneinasia
      @someoneinasia 10 днів тому

      yes her sales will flop, nobody can argue that, ngl i feel like roccia was originally designed as 4 star havoc specific support but then kuro decide to make her a luxury 5 star unit.

  • @dauntlessguts12_20
    @dauntlessguts12_20 10 днів тому

    I think she'll age really well but I'm unfortunately most like not gonna get her due to literally getting Zhezhi at the 11th hour 😭 She's way funner than I gave her credit for tho so I'm happy I got her this time around.

  • @escadora2206
    @escadora2206 10 днів тому

    I cant put into words how much i disagree with people arguing roccia is not beeing worth pulling for.
    The funfactor she adds and the grouping seems to be not only criminally underrated but also completely ignored sometimes. I also heavily prefer characters not beeing broken by numbers and mainly be valuable pulling for because of fun, interesting characters, animations and practicallity. I hate it everytime a character i like in starrail needs to be supported by a character i dont like, so this approach where new secondary characters basically become a slightly stronger additional option instead of a necessity is so much better.
    Powercreep in gacha games has recently become a huge topic and i personally prefer every unit to be somewhat on a similar level instead of there beeing clear best in slot teams. Instead we should have multiple options for team slots which we can fill with characters we like or prefer for some reason.

  • @12midnight92
    @12midnight92 10 днів тому

    Im gonna use her as a main DPS

  • @meowspark9
    @meowspark9 10 днів тому

    I feel bad bc she's cute, but my Sanhua is doing good enough. Really like her thing of being kinda introverted and hiding in Pero's case, but I gotta hold for Zani. At least her companion quest will prolly be enjoyable I'm really liking these quests more as we go on.

  • @serv4ntPGR
    @serv4ntPGR 10 днів тому

    Her weapon is fine BUT it should have something in return to justify the price tag, not just the damage.... i.e. universal effects, it should have something like added concerto like mercato , or at least one unique utility outside of just plain damage (ER, increase cc radius, or status effects)

  • @d_roy_
    @d_roy_ 9 днів тому +1

    I personally think that Roccia isn't the problem, but Sanhua is. What I mean is Sanhua is very good, so if they want to outdo her by a huge margin, it introduces a much higher power scaling, which could be a balance issue. This is why I personally am not a fan of hyper OP 4star. It accelerates power scaling wayy too fast.

  • @RangerofNE
    @RangerofNE 10 днів тому

    Overall im happy with the powercreep so far, its nothing crazy for the most part

  • @gameplus6280
    @gameplus6280 10 днів тому

    I'm here to take Roccia's Sig and give it to Lingyang so I don't have to play XLY Sig hot potato anymore

  • @Nole2701
    @Nole2701 10 днів тому

    7:45 assuming you lose THE 50/50. The weapon banner is guaranteed.