One way to spot a Californian who recently moved here - baseball caps. I've noticed many of my new friends from California have a clever way of signaling there origins to each other. They often wear hats such as Giants or Dodgers caps. Have you noticed this?
Traffic and cost of living sky rocketed over the past 10 to 15 years in Oregon, because of more people moving in than moving out. That includes massive building of new homes, condos and apartments.
@livinginoregon That's not true at all, especially for renters who's rate of rent is greatly determined by median household income per county. We've been living in Oregon since 2005 and have seen our rent go from 600 a month to now over 1000 a month in the past ten years, while mass building of new neighborhoods have been going on. The traffic went from nearly nothing to feeling more like large city traffic too. It's not good for anyone's pocketbook while testing everyone's patience. It's also known fact that where population increases, higher demand for building material, food and other goods occur. We're seeing it happen all over smaller towns of the U.S. as more people come in droves from mostly California and other expensive states. Also, more ware and tear on the road infrastructure drives prices up, especially for license plate tags and registration. Cost of that has nearly doubled over the past 20 years. All of this has nothing to do with inflation either, we were seeing prices of everything climbing long before the most recent inflation as mass people started moving in.
Where is that trail, it is beautiful. Im currently living on the central coast of California, our water bill is $40-50 at its highest. We don't have grass, but I have a lot of plants to keep watered.
Disclosures to me are important If you're referring to seeing issues the home has. Starting negotiations before knowing there's a roof problem seems like a waste of time. Am I not getting it?
No, that is correct. If there is a major issue such as a roof leak, it would be more common for the seller to provide disclosures upfront(listing agent will likely advise them to do so). For that reason, we don't run into what you are describing often. Providing the disclosures is a contingency of the contract. Once disclosures are provided post mutual acceptance, the buyer has the option to cancel the contract and receive their earnest money back. Also, post inspection, there is typically a negotiation to resolve anything that came up as a result of the inspection that also allows the buyer to cancel and receive their earnest money back.
Just a correction on property taxes. In California the assessed value is readjusted to the full sale price of the home upon transfer. In Oregon it is limited even after it’s sold regardless of the sales price. So in actuality property taxes can be substantially lower in Oregon, unless you’re buying a recently built house.
Oregon's problem is it goes way too liberal catching up the level of California and Washington. However, it hasn't attracted enough Tech or other high salary companies to support the whole society yet. So it's more like you are copying your big brother to show your generosity by sharing your cake, before you even make a big one.... California can be spoiled and they can abuse whatever resources they have, because they are done waves of industrial revolutions from Gold Rush to Wine to Agriculture to Technology to Film Industry and now AI. But Oregon is like lacking a clear idea of its own economy development path. What is the best advantage of Oregon in Industry, except for some soft drinks brands? How come these Tech or Big Name offices haven't outflown to its neighboring state, Oregon with Californian exodus? Instead, they went to Texas, Nevada, Denver, Arizona or even Idaho?! -- Obviously, it's because the business environment in Oregon is not good, or not pro-business. That's something Oregon and its governor should answer for sure.
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One way to spot a Californian who recently moved here - baseball caps. I've noticed many of my new friends from California have a clever way of signaling there origins to each other. They often wear hats such as Giants or Dodgers caps. Have you noticed this?
Traffic and cost of living sky rocketed over the past 10 to 15 years in Oregon, because of more people moving in than moving out. That includes massive building of new homes, condos and apartments.
Unfortunately we have not built enough - shortage of housing which leads to higher prices is the primary reason cost of living has gone up so much.
@livinginoregon That's not true at all, especially for renters who's rate of rent is greatly determined by median household income per county.
We've been living in Oregon since 2005 and have seen our rent go from 600 a month to now over 1000 a month in the past ten years, while mass building of new neighborhoods have been going on.
The traffic went from nearly nothing to feeling more like large city traffic too. It's not good for anyone's pocketbook while testing everyone's patience.
It's also known fact that where population increases, higher demand for building material, food and other goods occur.
We're seeing it happen all over smaller towns of the U.S. as more people come in droves from mostly California and other expensive states.
Also, more ware and tear on the road infrastructure drives prices up, especially for license plate tags and registration. Cost of that has nearly doubled over the past 20 years.
All of this has nothing to do with inflation either, we were seeing prices of everything climbing long before the most recent inflation as mass people started moving in.
i'm 71, this has been going on my entire life, nothing new!!!
Where is that trail, it is beautiful. Im currently living on the central coast of California, our water bill is $40-50 at its highest. We don't have grass, but I have a lot of plants to keep watered.
Disclosures to me are important If you're referring to seeing issues the home has. Starting negotiations before knowing there's a roof problem seems like a waste of time. Am I not getting it?
No, that is correct. If there is a major issue such as a roof leak, it would be more common for the seller to provide disclosures upfront(listing agent will likely advise them to do so). For that reason, we don't run into what you are describing often. Providing the disclosures is a contingency of the contract. Once disclosures are provided post mutual acceptance, the buyer has the option to cancel the contract and receive their earnest money back. Also, post inspection, there is typically a negotiation to resolve anything that came up as a result of the inspection that also allows the buyer to cancel and receive their earnest money back.
@@livinginoregon Thanks for the detailed explanation.
Just a correction on property taxes. In California the assessed value is readjusted to the full sale price of the home upon transfer. In Oregon it is limited even after it’s sold regardless of the sales price. So in actuality property taxes can be substantially lower in Oregon, unless you’re buying a recently built house.
Appreciate the contribution
yea lets just encourage more californians to move here and make the PNW even worse.
Oregon's problem is it goes way too liberal catching up the level of California and Washington. However, it hasn't attracted enough Tech or other high salary companies to support the whole society yet. So it's more like you are copying your big brother to show your generosity by sharing your cake, before you even make a big one.... California can be spoiled and they can abuse whatever resources they have, because they are done waves of industrial revolutions from Gold Rush to Wine to Agriculture to Technology to Film Industry and now AI. But Oregon is like lacking a clear idea of its own economy development path. What is the best advantage of Oregon in Industry, except for some soft drinks brands? How come these Tech or Big Name offices haven't outflown to its neighboring state, Oregon with Californian exodus? Instead, they went to Texas, Nevada, Denver, Arizona or even Idaho?! -- Obviously, it's because the business environment in Oregon is not good, or not pro-business. That's something Oregon and its governor should answer for sure.
I own a business company here and planning on relocating to cali or Nevada because I do feel like it’s not business friendly here
Great post! Doesn't Oregon have offices for some of the FAANG companies though? Nvidia is there too if I'm not mistaken.
Please, no more Commiefornians...