India-Canada ties, pro-Khalistan activists, Trudeau’s politics | Chhota Hafta 507
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This week, Newslaundry’s Manisha Pande, Raman Kirpal, Jayashree Arunachalam, and Anand Vardhan are joined by financial crimes and corporate governance lawyer Sherbir Panag.
On the tensions brewing between India and Canada and the latter’s allegations of the Indian government’s involvement in the killing of pro-Khalistan activist Hardeep Singh Nijjar, Sherbir says, “Canada’s track record in dealing with Khalistani terrorism has been poor.” He adds that their “rhetoric and high-handed approach” is driven by their politics, as Canadian President Justin Trudeau’s government needs the support of Sikh MP Jagmeet Singh.
Jayashree, however, points out that Canada’s allegations can’t be brushed aside because of the parallel case of the assassination of Gurpatwant Singh Pannun in the US. “The US has categorically stated and produced evidence that India used a gangster to assassinate a person on US soil.”
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खालिस्तान की मांग संवैधानिक है,जब आप शांति से Khalistan की मांग करने वालों को आंतकवादी बोलोगे,तो फिर वह भगत सिंह बनेंगे।
4:44 ... Fantastic inputs.
India is a colonial political entity created by British and divided in two parts based on two nation bogus theory whereby Islam and Hinduism were considered two nations and hence two countries were created based on religions unlike on nationalities (language culture ethnicity history and associated interests) like nation states in Europe or bangla nation state Bangladesh
You people are still stuck in 2200 BC whereby you refer Asoka empire as India country and wana claim Punjab and whole Indian subcontinent. Welcome to 21st century..Punjab is a nation and nation states are based on common language culture history ethnicity religion and associated interests
@@SatpalVerma000
You are so uninformed as to be illiterate.
Canadian Sikh separatist are running amuck in this comment section.
I ain't a Canadian, and even if i was I don't think my opinion would be any less valuable than yours *specially* when it's not your religion and not your place to speak. I'd much rather have Sikhs talk about this issue as IT IS *their* issue than anyone else and their religion. You can see my comments. You can't just run away and hide from criticism when it hits you shouting and labelling everyone a terrorist and a separatist. Nothing's going to get resolved this way.
@@hackbaba999
It's a democratic country you can have whatever opnions you desire.
With regards to this video I think you guys want a person who agrees with your "ideas" so basically you want a discussion between people who toe your line of thinking.
@@DataCrusade1999 i think that we both would agree that for there to even be a sound and logical discussion to these issues or any particular topic of issue you need someone who's an expert or at least an advisor related to it. Do you agree? There needs to be appropriate and knowledgeable Men and Women BOTH in these fields who understand the gravity and sensitivity of these issues. I mean The Newslaundry team just called an Unaware man of "supposed Sikh origins" to this half handed discussion to talk about the state of Panjab when he's not even from that state LMAO. The Guy just called There's no need for there to be a Khalistan in the first sentence to prove his allegiance to the indian govt then what was even the point of this discussion?? Wasn't this the country's stance already? Didn't you agree with his viewpoints before he even started talking? Why do all this just to satisfy your own ego and listen to what you already wanna hear? This is more of a circlejerk rather than a discussion.
@@DataCrusade1999 You need people with opposing viewpoints in a discussion to understand their perspective and where they are coming from to gain informational grounds of the problem at hand. I'm sure the person that she was talking about in the starting would be happy and ready to jump in and possibly add his viewpoints to this "discussion", but Newslaundry or any Indian media whatsoever won't ever invite him or anybody from his org WSO to these types of discussions as they know that people who are actually informed about this topic would absolutely cook them in their own game.
@@hackbaba999
1. I agree on the expert part of your argument.
2. Regarding selection of the guest I guess they could have invited someone else but whatever the guest said should be judged on it's own merit.
3. Regarding your stance on discussion on Khalistan. I have experience in debating people I'll agree to your viewpoint if and only if the conclusion of that discussion end up in a consensus that can be mollified by the constitution of India. Otherwise I know from experience that the whole discussion would be an excercise to manufacture consent for existence of a Sikh state.
All I can say is as a Canadian I want nothing to do with Indian politics. Trudeau thinks otherwise as unfortunate as it is.
India doing human rights violations against sikhs.Garbage discussion seems participants are not well educated on khalistan topic sorry to say but yes
Khalistani are not Sikh. They have the fascist the Sikh supremacist ideological agendas. They deny human rights to other communities including to even poor among sikhs. So they have no moral right to complain if their human rights are violated. The criminals n gangsters have no human rights to be respected.
Where is the proof?
And you have all the knowledge being here in the comments sections, The only Sikhs who feel violoted are the Khalistan Sympathizers, and anti India elements, You want to settle in Canada, Autralia, New Zealand, USA & Britain, go there live there and die there, you want fake assylum in these countries.
THE REAL SIKHS ARE WORKING VIGOROUSLY, GIVING BOOST TO INDIAN ECONOMY, SAVING OUR BORDERS FROM MANY TERRORIST GROUPS RUNNING FROM ISI LIKE JAISH-E- MOHAMMAD, LASHKAR-ETAIBA AND OTHER 5 EYES BASED KHALISTANI MILITANT GROUPS.
@@Sunny-pw3jo lol
@@sanjaychauhan1116 PROOF WILL BE SHOWN IN COURT!
CANADIAN LAW DON'T SHOW EVIDENCE TO THE PEOPLE THEY GOING TO PROSECUTE!
Just want to know One thing - If Khalistan comes into existence will it take parts of Pakistan Punjab as well or Indian Punjab Only
.......Fir wahan sannata chhaa gya 😂
bhaai, Ye log fir canada mei hi pele jayenge agar ek BAYAN bhi de diya to
Both India and Pakistan. From nankana to Lahore. Just ask this question to any independent sikh country supporter and he'll tell you how capturing Pakistan's places where the historical gurudwaras are located in is in the aspirations of them
This punjabi lawyer is silly joker, rest are fine
1 SIKH HAS THE WHOLE INDIA SHOOK!😂
@@Bobby-d9m sardaar 😂😂😂😂
The strength of US, Canada and the western world is “Freedom Of Speach” It may be hard to imagine for someone not living there including your Turban guest
The problem is your freedom of speech extends to terrorists and gangsters. The people who deny the same to others.
Truckers rejected your opinion 🤡
Freedom of speech? Do you know Mr. Justin Trudeau has put social media curbs last year in Canada. Do you know he considers Indian media criticizing him as the "Foreign interference". What kind of freedom of expression you guys believe in?
You nailed it just few sentences.
@@JohnWick-uj4gh Truckers were causing not just public nuisance but major business loss, along-with refusal to follow health protocols during covid.
Panjab got denied any flood relief fund unlike all the other states for the year 2024-25 even after many disastrous floods and casualties hitting the state last year. And then these "secular" people preach about how everyone and every state is equal in this country. Why such mistreatment to your OWN state if it's so called "one of your own"?
Edit: You can see the pain of a 20% community of population as they are a minority to you but the actual 1.7% population and their pain isn't? This shit ain't secular if I've ever seen one.
Underpaid workers in the farms of Punjab should be compensated if anyone deserves to be paid.
@@abhinav.mishra17Underpaid workers across India shall be paid their dues, not just in Punjab!
Surely, if those workers in Punjab had better opportunities elsewhere in India, they'd have moved in a heartbeat.
@@abhinav.mishra17Also, do you know how many of those ‘migrant’ brothers are land-bearing? Unlike the common belief, a tremendous number of them have decent land holdings, and despite that, they'd much rather work with us here in Punjab. Care to know why? Because their farming rights have already been violated.
@@Baidwan8o8 They may have been bragging. Or they may have very less holdings. Which is the result of the population explosion.
@@PankajKumar-ej5dt Some, but not all, thanks to Delhi’s exploiting fellow farmers' liberties in those jurisdictions under fake pretences. Remember, mate rights are like the phrase ‘use-it-or-lose-it.’
Why are you giving so much engagement by repeatedly flashing images and the name of so called gangster - this is achieving the goal that he wishes for - let the good media do what they collect money for - please don’t use the money that we pay to see good journalism falling into the trap of (in)fame that results from so many repetitive instances of images and names of cheap scum
BJP is doing pr stunt which is very huge tariike se bata raha samaj jao
when u strike on pak u celebrate…but whn u strike on usa pak or australia thn you dont take responsibility
Bro Sherbir first of all you’re living in Delhi so stop speaking for the people of Punjab. Secondly, Have you met anybody affected from the 84 riots? It was not long ago. The images are vivid in people’s mind who went through it. They don’t talk about it, not because they have moved on but because they suppress it and try to get on with their lives. And you coming here telling them oh it’s long gone, it doesn’t matter anymore, trivialising it is not helping people heal much. It makes them angry. It was unfair. It was disproportionate. Innocent civilians were killed and tortured based on their look. It is affecting people to this day. The cases are still pending. Victims still stand uncompensated. And on top of that you’re all like shut up, let’s not talk about it because people have magically moved on. You seem as much deluded to me as those pro-Khalistan idiots. You seem to be over correcting things for some reason. Have the courage to call a spade a spade. And News-laundry, at least get somebody from Punjab to talk about Punjab?
cry more!
You CAN NOT expect every being to behave the way you want. Kids of today would not care what happened to their grandpa, mate. People only care, and are allowed to, care about things that impact them prominently.
I do think there had to be national apology from the government of the day on the riots. Absolutely I have no qualms about it.
But eventually, we have to move on. You are allowed to hold gripes.
Hey News Laundry, why don't you ask the government of India to hold a referendum in Punjab on Khalistan and put this issue to rest for once and all since according to this, "Still wet behind the ears financial crimes lawyer" there is no support for Khalistan in India. (I believe he might have been thinking of support for Khalistan in Punjab but used the word India instead).
And for you lady, to diminish the state sponsored murders of tens of thousands of Sikhs in India in 1984 as a trivial matter shows the callous disregard you have for human life. Shame on you!
What is mind boggling is the fact that NO HINDU ANCHOR of a TV show or a Podcast ever considers it important to discuss the underlying causes of dissatisfaction of the Sikh Community, It always starts with the criticism and calling Sikhs Terrorists.
DO YOU HAVE ANY PROOF THAT NIJJAR WAS A TERRORRIST OR HE COMMITTED ANY ACT OF TERRORISM? Then please expose that for all to see and if not then kindly do some introspection on how you deal with this topic. Pointing fingers and name calling will not solve anything, a thoughtful and fair approach may be the solution.
They are all same regardless of their political orientation
Why Should India be Multiple Nation-States
India (Republic of India) didn't exist before 1947. Italy didn't exist before 1861. Turkey didn't exist before 1922, Germany didn't exist before 1871, Saudi Arabia didn't exist before 1932 and so on. Concept of Countries was invented in Europe in the 18th century. Before the invention of the concept of countries, there were only empires and kingdoms everywhere around world. Germany, France, Italy, Austria, Denmark, Poland, Switzerland, Slovenia, Netherlands, lechesiten etc were created after fall of 1000 yrs old Holy Roman empire in 1806. Italy and Germany were created in 1861 and 1871 by merging various small kingdoms of Italian and German nationality. Similarly all European countries were created based on their respective nationalities after the fall of empires and kingdoms across Europe.
After the fall of the 600 yrs long Ottomans empire in 1922, many countries were created based on their nationalities.Saudi Arabia didn't exist When Prophet Muhammad was born in Mecca.Turkey was created in 1923 and Saudi Arabia was created in 1932 after the fall of Ottomans Empire in 1922. Europe and Middle East was united under various empires and kingdoms for most of the history just like India. India was the name for the region east to river Indus. It was never a country before 1947 but a region or subcontinent where various empires and kingdoms existed just like in Europe, Middle East or other parts and continents of world.
Now the question is what is nation and nationality? A nation is a society that shares a common language, culture, and history and has shared interests. For example English, German, Italian, Turkish, French, Russian, Dutch, Spanish, Arabs, Persian, Kurds, Japanese, Korean, Punjabi, kashmiri, Marathi, Bengali, Tamil, Malyalam, Thai etc are nations and a country based on single nation or nationality or where a single nationality dominates culturally, politically, in economy and military is called a nation state. Most countries in Europe or 'civilised world' are based on single nationalities and are nation states or simply called nations.
There are dozens of nations within India and Pakistan. And hence India and Pakistan are union of nations or multinational countries. Nations are Punjab, Kashmir, sindh, Baluchistan, Gujarat, Bengal, Maharashtra, Tamilnadu etc. And in modern civilised world countries are created on basis of nationality like the countries in Europe (England, France, Germany, Poland, Norway, Sweden, Croatia etc) or in Asia (Korea, Japan, China,Thailand, Philippines etc) and Bangladesh etc are countries based on nationalities.
Among the 650 major nations in the world, the nations in the union of India are one of the largest nations in the world. After Han Chinese Mandrain, Spanish, Anglo Saxons English, and Arabic
Bengali - world's 5th largest nationality
Punjabi- 10th largest nationality in world
Marathi- 13th largest nationality in world
Hindustani- 14th largest
Telugu- 15th largest nationality
Tamil- 17th largest nationality in world
Gujarati- 24th largest nationality in world
Bhojpuri- 25th largest
Kannada- 29thth largest
Malyalam- 30th largest
Oriya- 32nd largest
Maithili- 40th largest
Awadhi- 46th largest
Assamese- 65th largest
Haryanvi, Marwari, Magahi, Deccan, etc in top 100 nationalities of world.
(Hindi, Urdu are not nationalities but artificial languages developed from Hindustani language and imposed on some nations in some regions, with only few native speakers. These regions have their own nationalities and languages. Hindustani is a nationality in western Uttar pradesh with Hindustani as native language).
Republic of India was created in 1947 out of the British Indian empire on the basis of two nations bogus theory. Two nations were assumed as Islam and hindusim. But in reality, Islam and Hinduism are not nations. India and Pakistan were not created based on nationalities (unlike in rest of civilised world) but on two nation (Islam Hinduism) bogus theory. Hence, these countries are based on religions.
On the other hand, Bangladesh is a nation state which was created on the basis of Bangla nationality in 1971 (5th biggest nationality in world). No other nation in the British empire (except Bangla nation) got sovereignty and independence. The sovereignty of all nations changed hands from British empire to two newly created empires based on religions. British empire just transferred ownership rights in 1947.
Three predominant civilisations in Republic of India, Indo Aryans, Dravidian and Sino Tibetic ( North East nations in the Republic of India) don't share anything although the first two civilisations share religion hence religion is the biggest binding force of the Indian Union followed by Military Power which is used to occupy non Hindu nations (Punjab, Kashmir, Nagaland, Mizoram, Meghalaya) with the Indian union. Most of Hindus in Indian subcontinent prefer religion over their nationalities unlike muslims (Kashmiri, Bangla, Baluch, Sindhi, Pashto) who identify themselves with their nationalities and even support nation states like Bangladesh.
According to research, Higher ethnic or national diversity within a country negatively affects economic growth through conflict between interests of various nations or ethnicities (Don't confuse the ethnic or national diversity with the multiculturalism in west due to migration, the migrants mix with diverse society and become part of nationality of the host country and work for the interests of the dominant nationality).
High 'nationality or ethnic' Diversity correlates with low GDP per capita.
Strong democracy correlates with ethnic or national homogeneity.
Punjab and Kashmir should be a free countries based on Punjabi and Kashmiri nationalities like Bangladesh. But Hindu Punjabis, Hindu Kashmiris and Muslim Punjabi don't want to leave unions of india and Pakistan, so Punjabi Sikhs, or Kashmiri muslims can't force them to follow to support the idea of Nation-States. Hindu Punjabis, who had deserted Punjabi language in 1951 and 1961 census by declaring Hindi as their mother tongue would never support a Punjabi nation state. They support a Indian state based on the Hindu religion. Similarly, Punjabi Muslims of Pakistan dont support Punjabi nation state either. They support Pakistan state that is based on Islam religion.
Similarly, Bengali Hindus and Kashmiri Hindus don't support Bangla nation state Bangladesh and Azad Kashmir and want to live in Union of India which is based on Hinduism. So Punjabi muslims, Punjabi Hindus, Kashmiri Hindus and Bengali Hindus are free to stay in their respective countries based on religions. But similar to Bangla Muslims of East Pakistan, who created Bangla nation state Bangladesh without Indian Bengali Hindus, Sikhs have the right to create Azad Punjab (a Punjabi nation state) without Punjabi Hindus and Punjabi Muslims (and Azad Kashmir without Kashmiri Hindus). As simple as that
Khalistan- The Struggle for survival of Punjabi Identity and nationality: A Legacy of Marginalization and Misrepresentation
Indians regardless of their political ideology label Sikhs as terr*orists and rad*icals when Sikhs stand up for their national rights i.e for the protection of Punjabi language and culture. The leftist liberal media been doing that since the formation of union of India in 1947. In 1947 there were around 15 provinces in Union of India (now it's around 30). Nehru tried to impose the Hindi language and culture on whole of union of India, in order to create a nation state India based on single language and culture like the countries in Europe. He got successful in BIMARU states but failed in rest of the Union of India including Punjab.
But the case of Punjab was unique. Whereas Marathi,Gujarati, and all south states were united in their struggle against Hindi imperialism, for the protection of their national identity (language and culture) the Punjab population was divided on this subject. Punjabi Hindus wanted to support Hindi and make Punjab a Hindi state whereas Sikhs wanted it a Punjabi state..
In 1951 and 1961 census Hindus declared Hindi as their mother tongue. At that time, Haryana and Himchal were part of Punjab. All Punjabi speaking Hindus of current Punjab and Punjabi speaking districts of Haryana and Himachal declared Hindi as their mother tongue. So now Punjabi supporters were in minority. That means official language of Punjab, including the medium of education in schools and Universities, and language of communication and employment would have been Hindi language. Now existence of Punjabi was under threat just like languages of BIMARU states are under threat of being extinct today.
Sikhs started protests for a Punjabi majority state just like South states, North East states, Marathi, Gujarati etc who were protesting for the establishment of their respective linguistic provinces. Whereas Hindus in rest of India were struggling for their respective mother tongues and nationalities, Hindus in Punjab deserted their own mother tongue Punjabi and supported Hindi in order to make Punjab a Hindi state like rest of BIMARU states.
So Sikhs were alone in their struggle for the protection of Punjabi nationality.
But leftist secular liberal media labelled Sikhs as radicals and anti national for demanding a Punjabi province based on Punjabi language. None labelled Punjabi Hi*ndus radicals who deserted their own mother tongue for their radical ideology. None labelled Marathi, Gujarati, South nations as radicals for demanding the linguistic provinces based on their respective languages.
It was easy and fashionable to target Sikhs because the Punjabi nationality struggle was being lead by Sikhs, not by Punjabi Hindus. It was fashionable to target Sikhs because the so called Intellectual, scholar class of Punjab (who were and still are predominantly Leftist Communists) were also against the formation of Punjabi speaking province and were supporting a united Punjab with Hindi as its dominant official language.
Indian state incited hatred among Punjabi hindus against Sikhs and Punjabi language that a Punjabi province is a conspiracy to disintegrate India and base for the establishment of a Sikh state called Khalistan. So after the Union of India defamed the Punjabi national struggle as hateful, anti democratic, anti social communal struggle against Secular peaceful democratic Union of India, it was easy for them to crush the Punjabi national struggle brutally violating the basic human rights and constitutional rights of Punjabi nationalists (in this case Punjabi nationalts were Sikhs).
India declared it illegal to chant slogans like "Punjabi sooba Zindabaad (long live Punjabi province). A 10 yrs old kid Shaheed Kaka Inderjit Singh was k*illed br*utally by Indian forces for saying Punjabi sooba Zindabaad in 1960. His arms and leg bones were bro*ken and his eyes were gouged out and he was th*rown into a dry well by Indian security forces. This was followed by arrest of thousands of innocent Sikhs and kil*ling of hundreds.
This created rift between Punjabi Hindus and Sikhs. Leftist secular media tried its best to demo*nise the Sikhs who were fighting for the protection of Punjabi identity. They discriminated against Sikhs when the Punjabi sooba was formed in 1966, In*dia robbed waters and natural resources of Punjab violating its own constitution, robbed tax money of Punjab during devolution of taxes to provinces, used Punjab as a colony while continued trying to make Punjabi minoritiy language in Punjab by various conspiracies
Why are Sikh separatists sounding like early believers of the Zionist project? Is the ultimate goal to create an ethno-religious state like Israel? And the hope is.. Canada will sponsor it? Like Israel' creation was handled by the UN and British, and now the US? With ethnically cleansing modern day Punjabs, just like Zionists cleared homes and villages of Muslims, Jews and Christians who didn't believe in the Zionist project?
Of course India is currently controlled by people who think they can do classic fascism and be smart about it (but they are clearly incompetent). And the alternatives are even more incompetent due to lack of genuine governing principles. But damn, your accusations seem so extreme. I am a supporter of the farmers' protest for instance which included farmers from all over - they did not seem to hold these extreme views. Except for a few, who always seem to do something weirdly radical and confusing.
I have admired your channel's work over the years, but I am sorry to say I am very disappointed with this video's content. No effort was made to highlight the underlying problem. The guest has no clue what he is talking about, bring someone who lives abroad. There is no counterpoint of view. No effort was made to show Mr. Nijjar's family history and what was done to them. No evidence was shared of him being involved in terrorism. Not to mention that Interpol rejected India's appeal for Mr. Nijjar. Where is the balance and fact-checking in this? Very very disappointing Newswire.
Can't tolerate this lady!
Godhi media 😂😂😂😂you also
IMPORTANT MESSAGE PLEASE READ - Today morning I found Khalistan, Jagmeet, Pannu and Justin in my commode after my poop 💩, how surprising it was so I just flushed out
Mera laand karega khaalistaan
😂😂
Gb road son
Mitroooo, jab India aur Canada milta hai, tabb EXTRA 2AB nikalta hai 😂😂😂😂😂
If Khalistani want a Place. What are they gonna do about the Major Land that's there in Pakistan?
Most of the Khalistani Land is in Pakistan Punjab😂😂😂😂
Canada made Modi a "Vish Guru"
Guys - have been an unapologetic supporter of Your channel in every possibe manner (feel free to check) but this time You are out of Your depth.. Your panelist has NO IDEA of what they are talking about... if You want to understand the views and mindset of the Sikh Diaspora, please bring someone who is living there currently... as someone who has lived most of their life in North America, i assure You, the views being expressed do NOT reflect those held by so many, and by that i am NOT blowing a dogwhistle of any kind, just to be clear.
The complexities of what You are trying to cover are so deeply interwoven into the lived experiences of people, someone who has been embedded would do a MUCH better job speaking to these points. Thank You and Kindest Regards 🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽
Agreed.
Also, the way she said Sikhs are stuck in 1984....
The magnitude of insensitivity
Hi Manisha and the News Laundry team, I guess you can have a look at the comments and the dissatisfaction coming from the ones who really want you guys to talk to the right set of people to understand what Khalistan discussion is all about, say for example one of your esteemed team mate spoke to Amritpal Singh in Punjab, the same way you need to speak to the people who can come up with the story on the other side unlike this govt supported so-called sikh you brought up on the panel.
Request.
@@HardeePSIngH-gw5zi Hii sir please I just want some answers from you I hope u can answer this -
1] What will happen to patna sahib and hazur sahib in nanded after the formation of khalistan. Who will take care of all other gurdwara present in India like Banglasahib ?
2] Will Sikhs ever be able to come to there sacred shrines in India after creation of khalistan because I don't think for a long time there will be relations between both nations ?
3] Will the entire sikh community present in India will migrate to khalistan or not ?
4] The dream khalistan map wishes to have entire stated of Punjab, haryana , Himachal and some districts of Delhi and Rajasthan. Do you at all think that states like himachal and haryana which are above 90 percent hindu majority will ever join khalistan ?
5 ] If khalistan ever gets formed then Sikhs will themselves become a minority . Even presently 40 percent population of Punjab itself is not sikh so why will Hindus live in this fantasy sikh nation ?
Please I want to know and understand your views . So please answer this questions ?
Manishaji aap bilkul Farida Jalal jaisi dikhti hai.
Manisha, first time I don’t agree with you. You said Diaspora and particularly the person you saw on Sky New is stuck in 1984. Let me ask you a question if someone’s family members are burnt alive in front of them, saw fake encounters of their people and girls were rap3d in front of their fathers and brothers, What do you expect from those people? Do you want them to move on and forget everything?? The Khalistan issue should be resolved with dialogue and peace. With your logic Hindus should stop burning effigies of Ravana. Why don’t Hindus just move away from what Ravana did? Hindus still burn his effigy even after thousands of years. Indian government should admit it’s wrong doing (if they have done) and participate in the ongoing investigation. Again, as I said earlier the issue can only be resolved with proper dialogue instead of just vilification.
By that logic we should be stuck in past forever trying to settle the scores
@@bs_slayer7906 Stuck in past?? Can you imagine the trauma those people had gone through? You only get your life once and in that if you see murder of your family members in front of yourself then you will stuck in past too. Just put yourself in those shoes and then try to move on. You won’t be able to because you would loose a big piece of yourself.
@@cloud9rkd The entire history of the world is filled with human tragedies 1984 is not unique event.
@@bs_slayer7906 Easy for you to say. Did Jews forget holocaust? Did India forget the pain of partition? Did America forget 9/11? Did Japan forget Hiroshima and Nagasaki bombings? Did Armenians forget their genoc*de by Ottoman’s Empire? There are countless such examples but unfortunately it’s easy to say to just “move on” by those folks who didn’t experience a tiny bit of it.
Exactly 💯💯💯
Questions should be ask briskly
A fourteen minute video just check how long your guest was asked to reply.
Khalistan zindabad 💪💪🌾🌾
There are sympathisers of khalistan if not than how amritpal won election..not all has khalistani view but it exist in some
Fake sikh 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
ALSO, TOUCH UPON THE SUBJECT OF G-20 SUMMIT, WHERE THE DE DOLLARISATION IS GOING TO BE THE KEY ISSUE.
1:45 When Manish said some Canadian Sikhs are still stuck at 1984, I completely agree. I moved overseas in 2016 and visited India sometime after 4 years. Believe me, I was mentally still in 2016 and my friends/family had to remind me that 4-5 years have been passed.
4:45 Sherbir put out a great point, look at the farmers' protest. How poorly Indian government had handled that. Of course, other rivalries took advantage of that and promoted these Anti-India elements.
5:45 There was no need to jump in. This lady has zero clue what is going on or what she wants to say on this. Thanks for cutting her part. 😂
People who saw their family members burnt alive, fake encounters of their people and saw their daughters or sisters being rap3d in front of them, you want them to move on??? How the hell someone can move on from this mental and physical agony? It’s easy to say those folks are stuck in 1984 but they have experienced that trauma first hand. Why do Hindus still burn the effigy of Ravana even after thousands of years? Why Hindus can’t just move on???
@cloud9rkd then RaGa should also hold a grudge...?
@@KuttajeeHE can but remember he got justice many sikhs didn't many mass murders got government jobs still walking freely
America jaise desh devloped hai aur India nhi aap jaise logo ke conduct bta dete hai aur kitna todoge is desh ko ab
Its strange to see all the panelists in India media were pro India and they are talking about khalistan issue its like mahatma gandhi saying there is no violence in world because i practice non violence. There are multiple leaders in punjab both Mp and Mla and laywers who support this cause so dismissing it that it doesn't exit this narrative will not take you anywhere. I know these channels got directives from Intelligence agency buts is for the readers of the comment section.
हफ्ता वसूली वाले ज़्यादा दिन नहीं टिकते इसलिए अपने टैगलाइन में संशोधन कीजिए अन्यथा अंग्रेजों की भांति NL को भी देश छोड़कर भागना पड़ेगा।
NL team is fighting for secularism. Thanks NL team for discussion on Khalistan issue. Everyone wants to see freedom of khalistaani people.
Raw goons are attacking on peace lovers around the world (UK, USA, Canada, AUS, Pak)
@@frommars-sl8iv peace lovers u call them😂... When u US entered Afghanistan against Taliban or to kill laden they didn't care about sovereignty of that country.. Providing place for snake will not just scare others it ll inevitably hurt you too... Forster terrorists is the same
Ah yes, peace lovers who hijacked a plane and killed innocents....
Everyone? Only Khalistani and deep state wants that
So dividing india is a real secularism according to you
Ya offcourse a man generally belong to peaceful community
What are these bangladeshi are doing here??news laundry is a left wing channel that doesn't mean it is an anti india channel.
We are not like Bangladeshi who convert their country into another Pakistan
Hum lagaan kabhi nahi dete.
Hey Jayashree, if you are reading this. You are the dumbest person in the panel who knows only half baked information.
Khalistani sympathizers ko khalistan Pakistan 🇵🇰 k punjab me banana chahiye bcz 80% punjab ka part to unke pass hai. To logically and historically tumko vo claim karna chahiye , india 🇮🇳 k Punjab me sikh ki hi majority hai and except 90s sikh persecution, uske baad unke sath kuch galat nahi hua india me but Pakistan 🇵🇰 ne to waha k sare sikho ka persecution kar diya hai. You should make khalistan in Pakistan and india 🇮🇳 will also support ur cause
Rahul pappu is the owner of the newslaundry 😂😂😂😂😂
I don't know who or which punjabis this guy has been talking to, but every sikh youth i spoke to wants khalastan, if this is the case that not one sikh in punjab wants Khalastan then why is the government of india so scared that they will not allow Sikhs ti vote in Khalastan Referendum. Let the vote decided. If you say a few hundred deluded will vote yes. Lets have a vote. Then you guys can really show the world that in punjab no one wants a Khalastan its only few trouble makers that are undermining the sovereignty of india. Plz hold a vote.
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Hii sir can you please tell me that what will happen to all the gurdwara present in India if khalistan that you desperately want gets formed ?
Who will take care of patna sahib and hazur sahib which are very important to Sikhs?
Can Sikhs abandon all this major shrines because it is highly unlikely that if khalistan ever gets formed then it will have good relations with govt of India ?
Most importantly the dream map of khalistan with haryana and himachal along with Punjab and some districts of delhi and Rajasthan is that at all even possible because then Sikhs will themselves become a minority in the so called khalistan and majority Hindus residing inside this territories will never accept to be a part of khalistan?
Please if you can answer all this questions
@@ShivansharajSikhs will take care of gurudwaras in India bro?
Are you guys planning to kill all Sikhs in india if khalistan came into existence???
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#khalistanZindabad. Never never never forget 1984 Sikh Genosid
@@RupinderSingh-go4ts wait for lawrence bishnoi's reply😁
Bro Khalistan is nowhere in the world map
Canada m bna le BKL
Where is your khalistan demand when it comes to Pakistan punjab
No punjabi need a khalistani memorandum
@@RupinderSingh-go4ts it's history ,avi v whi freeze ho rakhe ho ,1984 ko hue 40 years kbtk ek hi issue ko pakad k baithe rahoge
खालिस्तान की मांग संवैधानिक है,जब आप शांति से Khalistan की मांग करने वालों को आंतकवादी बोलोगे,तो फिर वह भगत सिंह बनेंगे।
Taliban for Sikhs ? No thanks 🙏
@@Jaskaran.khanna we will see in future what will happen to these people...wait and see
It is flawed demand, why are they not claiming Punjab administered by Pakistan. As you know most sacred religious places of Sikhs lies in Pakistan.
@@iadityadubeyMost sacred is Darbar Sahib which was attacked and destroyed by you people and your goberment.
@@hackbaba999Hii sir I want to know your views on some questions please answer them if u can -
1)What will happen to all gurudwaras in India after supposed creation of khalistan especially patna sahib , nanded sahib , hemkund sahib , shishganj sahib , banglasahib etc ?
2) Why will 90 percent hindu majority states of himachal and Punjab join khalistan ?
3) will all Sikhs from rest of India migrate to khalistan after its creation?
4) Won't Sikhs will become a minority in their own khalistan?
Hi Manisha and the News Laundry team, I guess you can have a look at the comments and the dissatisfaction coming from the ones who really want you guys to talk to the right set of people to understand what Khalistan discussion is all about, say for example one of your esteemed team mate spoke to Amritpal Singh in Punjab, the same way you need to speak to the people who can come up with the story on the other side unlike this govt supported so-called sikh you brought up on the panel.
Request.
Facts, The guy even looks like he wears his Turban like a hat, an on and off kinda thing for him lol. Doesn't even have a beard, which is one of the most basic principles of the religion they're trying to discuss. At least get the proper spokesman for these sensitive discussions. I hope they learn from this plethora of feedback and assess their mistakes. Else oh well you do still have a single community that watches you.
I don't really have much hope tho, look at how she uses the word *Hyperbole* to say that Sikhs exaggerate and overstate their genocide. Like common, with that Attitude of these people i don't think this issue is going to be ever resolved anytime soon. Now these are the hardcore "Leftists" aka the most "Secular" India has to offer. Now think about the hardcore Right Wingers, it's not looking good at all for any of them I'll just say that 💀
I don't think they know or have ever read about Jaswant Singh Khalra ji and his findings. If they did, they wouldn't be sitting here whining about how Sikhs exaggerate this massacre. Do your research Mr Sekhri this little Chota hafta episode of yours is making it look like another cliche Godi media BS debate where they get Unaware/Out of touch guests to showcase their out of touch opinions presented as facts.
Why did Punjabis tried to divide india in first place by colluding with isi whole blue star operations had to carried out due to that Indira got murdered and that resulted in Sikh massacre by Congress activists
@@ravigurjar3107 I guess you just don't have anything relevant here to say and add to the OP's or my comments. Which is why you're cherry-picking and coming up with your own . Alright even though you're not coming here with good faith arguments, I would advise you to learn more about this topic before you start blabbering around everywhere and in the comments. Half knowledge is always dangerous. Read about the Anandpur Sahib Resolution and its points. Absolutely *Nowhere* in that document does it say that Sikhs wanted to "divide" India. This whole debate was about water rights, preservation of the panjabi language and some other on the ground *important issues* that was converted into a *scapegoat* called "Khalistan" BY the Indian Goberment which then they used to suppress the just and normal state issues and demands into this Secessionism so that they don't have to deal with actual on the ground issues. Just like how most of the godi media news channels nowadays operate. Just label anyone and everyone an "anti-national" and "desh-virodhi" and character assassinate them and then BOOM problem is solved. And you can't say it was just some "Congress activists" if you people are still on the same path as before. You seem to only have knowledge about this topic from what godi media, WhatsApp or sites like Op india has told you.