@@cynthiamanning5231 funny how your comment was 1 year ago & my how things have changed! Yes they WERE boring as can be, NOW we got the whole Thomas & Hope storyline & I'm loving it!
they say its sex that's keeps Liam to Steffy but its not they have fun and the laugh together and talk as adults Hope says she has grown yep into her mother
@MsGhost79 Why shoikd Bill mind his own business? Brooke, Katie and Hope never do. They are more intrusive than Bill. Brooke and Hope hound people until they cave.
Hope cancelled their relationship before Rick's lie in front of the whole family. Then she told the world, then she made it a point to graffiti his house. She made it clear that Steffy was the issue. She was clear as day. Now all of a sudden she makes it minute with Rick's lie. But people want us to take Hope seriously. Really?!?! After all she said to Liam in front of everyone. What was that???? Rick lie wasn't relevant then. Now its no longer what Liam did, it is what she did, and she needs to make it up to him. Now Hope is displaying tramp like behavior. I guess her integrity and beliefs went out of the door now!
Teri Smith I ask my self why Brooke doing this to his daughter I will never doing that to my daughter I have to live same who doing that to me is better to alone and I am to the rest of my life
Yup she was playing by Steffy's rules. And she didnt do half of the throwing herself at Liam that Steffy did. Hope is a saint compared to Steffy. As evidenced by the fact that she ended up sleeping with Bill.
Bill once correctly described it: Liam is with Hope on a fishing rod, sometimes she lets the fishing rod loose, sometimes she pulls it back on. And she always thinks, with an "oh sorry, it was a mistake" everything is as before.
@@kitjune9333 Please if there is someone who always tried to brainwash Liam talking trash about Hope and telling him that she would be a better choice for him is Steffy. She used him as her puppet
That apology from Hope was like she had taken in all the things that Bill and Steffy had said to her were her issues and managed to parrot them back and that she is going to work on it and change. She is blaming all the breakups on outside forces rather than taking responsibility for the choices that she made along the way and accepting the consequences that came from them.
Hope's gut told her not to trust Liam, that's why she had to interrogate Steffy. And thats why she never confronted Liam and Steffy with Rick present. She was done. She just changed her mind and wants him back.
TheChaise74 the same way she insisted he trust her in Italy!!! She should have trusted him instead she was looking for a way out! I know everyone believes Bill is a vile man but to blatantly push Caroline off a balcony is just despicable!!! SMH
Rick is weak!!! All he does is run to daddy! He always threatening someone, it’s laughable at best!! And Hope lost all credibility! She looks for any reason to blame Steffy! When Steffy was with Liam and wanted to call a truce she wanted no parts of it, but once she got back with Liam she was quick to ask Steffy to be in her wedding because they were sister and invited her to Italy like really! You lost Liam and they life y’all should have had because you always ran instead of fighting!!! Period!! Stop blaming others!! Yes people put up road blocks but that what detours are for but you never took them, simply gave up and ran home!!! You gave up on Liam so many times!! And Rick fought so hard for Caroline only to dump her for Maya! The Logan’s have always been a joke!!
Hope's apology sounds like a public service announcement. And when she told Liam about Steffy knowing and being back in the game she implied that now HFTF was going to be a part of them getting back together.
Hope always broadcasting what happened when she wasn't even there. As for Liam? Steffy shoyld have dropped the cheatung waffle king to the curb a long time ago. He will never be faithful to the one he's with and it doesn't matter who else is in the picture and who else isn't; Liam will cheat no matter what.
Hope: Nobody called you? But she didn't either. She could have just called him from the hospital. But instead, she goes to him to brainwash him and make Caroline's accident about her.
Why is it Hopeless sounds like Brookhoe. I am sorry, I am sorry. I didn't mean it. I sure have trusted you. Yadi, Yadi, Yadi is not my fault. Take me back so I can dump you again🤭🤭🤣🤣🤣.
Wth is a cardiac specialist doing working on a standard head trauma case? 🤔 This is the same Doc who cared for Katie, during her first heart attack! Show messed up, again! 🧐🤨🤣
Its funny how Carolin jst comes out of all this all good witthout any serious injury or in a coma??? An without any broken bones or anything??? An then jst wakes up all normal like as if she jst fainted??? Knowing if that fall were in real life the person would have ended up diying or ended up with broken bones an never walk again or with serious brain injury to the head...
Plus Steffy did mess with Hope's wedding. So who is the trouble maker now. Remember the gondola. That was Bill and Steffy's doing. And the truth will come out about what those 2 crazy people did to Hope.
That wasn't messing with Hope and Liam's wedding. Hope dumped Liam before that and in typical Hope Logan behavior, she suddenly had to have Liam back once she found out he was moving on with Steffy.
It’s not just that. Steffy’s personality shouldn’t be reduced to being a hot woman up to anything in the bedroom. She is fiery, independent, loyal, strong-willed and funny. She is not full of drama and over-the-top, emotionally all over the place; she knows what she wants, she is sensible and does not throw tantrums or childishly expects everything to be handed to her on a silver plate. I get sick every time I hear Hopeless parrot how she is “robbed” of this and that - and yet, Steffy, with losing a child and dealing this ON HER OWN while Hope wasted all of 5 seconds to go after a grieving woman’s husband, and being through a lot of stuff, never complained and whined and stomped her feet. Steffy is a woman. Hopeless is a child. And her so called principles is just a decoy to hide her manipulative character; at the end of the day, she is just as deceptive as her mother. The latter used her in-your-face sexuality to attract men and her daughter uses abstinence to play them like puppets too. Two sides of the same coin. But both have the same energy; always the perpetual victims, always going after their “destiny(ies)”, always talking out of two sides of their mouths, quick to point the finger to others but never taking the blame for their own, much MUCH worse wrongdoings.
@@MsGhost79Liam was making that face because hope was laying a guilt trip on him. He's a rescue ranger, and she's a chronic victim needing to be saved. If he looks at steffy the way he looks at hope, you say it's lust. If he looks at hope the same way he looks at Steffy, you say it's love. Liam isn't worth it and I'm glad steffy moved on. Why anyone would want their favorite character with Liam is insane but you keep your fingers crossed that Hope and Liam stay together until they're older than dirt 😅
"Why are you doing this I can't do this" -Liam she's actually doing nothing except for talking and apologizing to you, you are the one who is grabbing her and staring at her eyes and her lips with Love
Steffy always using sex to keep Liam in check doing the same thing she has always accused Brooke of doing,A LOT of men like a woman who has no inhibitions and Steffy didn’t have a bone in her body of inhibitions,Hope has issues and that’s okay so did Steffy,Liam should’ve left both of them alone until he could decide who he really wanted to be with,Brooke should’ve never gotten with Bill he didn’t like Hope or Rick and he was a master manipulator and Steffy was like that she knew exactly how to work people and she definitely worked on Liam.
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Its funny how Rick says honesty is so important, but he's not telling Caroline how he sabotaged her relationship with Thomas.
caroline saw that, she just wanted rick more
@@ansaksa she saw the result of the sabotage, not the actual sabotage
He truly is his mother's son. One hell of a hypocrite for sure
@Larry Frazier Seems like all the Logans are judgmental and hypocritical. And Rick identifies as a Logan until it benefits him to be a Forrester
@@larryfrazier5925 Agreed 100%
I'm so sick of hearing "We would have been married by now." And, " We were robbed and lied to." God, Hope sounds like a broken record!!
You can have a got damn drinking game as many times as she says it!!!!!!
@@quietnerdgirl What's that got to do with anything?
And now they’re married, living in the shack and are one of the most boring couples of the show.
@@cynthiamanning5231 funny how your comment was 1 year ago & my how things have changed! Yes they WERE boring as can be, NOW we got the whole Thomas & Hope storyline & I'm loving it!
Steffy looks fabulous in that black dress.
Haha…Hope & Rick salivating to start pointing the finger at Bill. But it’s not his fault.
they say its sex that's keeps Liam to Steffy but its not they have fun and the laugh together and talk as adults Hope says she has grown yep into her mother
Hope is Sick making it about Lope while Caroline is laying in a hospital bed.
She is disgusting self serving, can’t stand her
Hope only wants Liam as soon as he moves on with Steffy..
Exactly what I said. She is so selfish
Hope spinning the story to make herself look good !!!!
Oh please Hope. All it takes is a change in weather and she will find a reason to leave Liam. Bill is right about her. 🙄
Juliana Tenia-McCollin Bill should mind his own business. He’s an arrogant jerk
Bill is a jerk
@MsGhost79 Why shoikd Bill mind his own business? Brooke, Katie and Hope never do. They are more intrusive than Bill. Brooke and Hope hound people until they cave.
Hope cancelled their relationship before Rick's lie in front of the whole family. Then she told the world, then she made it a point to graffiti his house. She made it clear that Steffy was the issue. She was clear as day. Now all of a sudden she makes it minute with Rick's lie. But people want us to take Hope seriously. Really?!?! After all she said to Liam in front of everyone. What was that???? Rick lie wasn't relevant then. Now its no longer what Liam did, it is what she did, and she needs to make it up to him. Now Hope is displaying tramp like behavior. I guess her integrity and beliefs went out of the door now!
Sandra Arkorful This is my issue with Hope. She has frequently shown childish behavior yet it's always Liam and Steffy's fault.
@@yao052 Exactly!
Well said
I will never understand how Brooke had feelings for a man who don't like her daughter
Brooke understood because she gave zero shits about Ridge’s kids🤷🏽♀️
Right!
Teri Smith I ask my self why Brooke doing this to his daughter I will never doing that to my daughter I have to live same who doing that to me is better to alone and I am to the rest of my life
Just like I don't understand how Ridge has feelings for woman who can't stand his children
@Scobster51 Ridge puts her in a pedestal and he's always out Brooke and Hope before his own family
Little Ricky better back off before Bill put them 🐾 on him😂😂
she isn't worried about Caroline she wanted an excuse to go see Liam
So now it's Hope's turn to hound Liam incessantly? And folks say Steffy is the one with no morals. Lmao.
Hope is like a.petulant child when things don't go her way she up and leaves liam.
Yup she was playing by Steffy's rules. And she didnt do half of the throwing herself at Liam that Steffy did. Hope is a saint compared to Steffy. As evidenced by the fact that she ended up sleeping with Bill.
Bill once correctly described it: Liam is with Hope on a fishing rod, sometimes she lets the fishing rod loose, sometimes she pulls it back on. And she always thinks, with an "oh sorry, it was a mistake" everything is as before.
@@feuerwehrluetzen yep, a fish with a hook in it's mouth is an apt description of Liam's relationship with Hope.
@@kitjune9333 Please if there is someone who always tried to brainwash Liam talking trash about Hope and telling him that she would be a better choice for him is Steffy. She used him as her puppet
That apology from Hope was like she had taken in all the things that Bill and Steffy had said to her were her issues and managed to parrot them back and that she is going to work on it and change. She is blaming all the breakups on outside forces rather than taking responsibility for the choices that she made along the way and accepting the consequences that came from them.
Hope wants to Risk having Bill as a father-in-law? Smh
Hope needs to get a life! Liam begged her for weeks to forgive him for something he didn’t do! She should have trusted her gut and her relationship!
She can do whatever she wants as long Lame is ok with it.
a woman can not trust a waffle
Hope's gut told her not to trust Liam, that's why she had to interrogate Steffy. And thats why she never confronted Liam and Steffy with Rick present. She was done. She just changed her mind and wants him back.
TheChaise74 the same way she insisted he trust her in Italy!!! She should have trusted him instead she was looking for a way out! I know everyone believes Bill is a vile man but to blatantly push Caroline off a balcony is just despicable!!! SMH
Rick is weak!!! All he does is run to daddy! He always threatening someone, it’s laughable at best!! And Hope lost all credibility! She looks for any reason to blame Steffy! When Steffy was with Liam and wanted to call a truce she wanted no parts of it, but once she got back with Liam she was quick to ask Steffy to be in her wedding because they were sister and invited her to Italy like really! You lost Liam and they life y’all should have had because you always ran instead of fighting!!! Period!! Stop blaming others!! Yes people put up road blocks but that what detours are for but you never took them, simply gave up and ran home!!! You gave up on Liam so many times!! And Rick fought so hard for Caroline only to dump her for Maya! The Logan’s have always been a joke!!
Hope's apology sounds like a public service announcement. And when she told Liam about Steffy knowing and being back in the game she implied that now HFTF was going to be a part of them getting back together.
Because she's a dishonest little girl. She sickens me
Hope always broadcasting what happened when she wasn't even there. As for Liam? Steffy shoyld have dropped the cheatung waffle king to the curb a long time ago. He will never be faithful to the one he's with and it doesn't matter who else is in the picture and who else isn't; Liam will cheat no matter what.
Hope: Nobody called you?
But she didn't either. She could have just called him from the hospital. But instead, she goes to him to brainwash him and make Caroline's accident about her.
It's always convenient too thst Hope just happens to get to Liam when steffy isn't around and Liam is too dumb to see how manipulative Hope was being.
Rick fell out a window, Caroline fell over a balcony...maybe they ARE made for each other!!! 😂😂😂
Katie always thinking the worst of Bill, geez give him a break
Bill and that damn coffee cup 😂😂😂
He sure loves the taste of that yummii coffee....lol..👍👍👍😂😂😂😂😂☕☕☕☕🍻🍻🍻🍷🍷🍷🍷
he is such a hypocrite. he also have to take something to get the edge off. when hope was doing it he despised her
Hopes not weak. She stood up to Bill
Only with a bunch of people in the room
Why is it Hopeless sounds like Brookhoe. I am sorry, I am sorry. I didn't mean it. I sure have trusted you. Yadi, Yadi, Yadi is not my fault. Take me back so I can dump you again🤭🤭🤣🤣🤣.
So Hope goes to tell Liam about his cousin and somehow it becomes about her and Liam! You didn't come to tell him about Caroline! GTFOH! 🤦😂😂
😅😅😅 hope always it about hope
Tell here Hope u not afraid for bill u are strong woman Hope and beautiful i like u
Hope a lot of things you get involved in are not your business, good thing you realized this !!!
Carolina fell off on her own lol
Nancy Tautuaa she confirmed that.
Wth is a cardiac specialist doing working on a standard head trauma case? 🤔 This is the same Doc who cared for Katie, during her first heart attack! Show messed up, again! 🧐🤨🤣
Rachel Kristine working the ER if they’re In need. A dr is a dr. They all have the same basic training.
Bill didn't get half a cup of alcohol yet he's still sipping
Strong stuff lol
@@quietnerdgirl it seems like Bill always has a drink in his hand, not good
Oh Hope I loved ur determination but knowing what we know now she should spare herself some more heartache
Rick an caroline make a great couple they have that real love an bond between em...
Until he throws her over for Myron/Maya.
they had sparks. never liked maya
Its funny how Carolin jst comes out of all this all good witthout any serious injury or in a coma??? An without any broken bones or anything??? An then jst wakes up all normal like as if she jst fainted??? Knowing if that fall were in real life the person would have ended up diying or ended up with broken bones an never walk again or with serious brain injury to the head...
I hope liam goes back just because bill doesn't want him too with his meddling butt
Hopie pulling a Stephi 🤣😂😃 hopie is lonely 😂🤣😃
Rick need to take his damn time because Bill is Caroline uncle so Rick is appsolutely wrong and Hope only knows boundaries when its convient
By the way Dr. Maponya is a South African actress 🎉 🎉🎉🎉🎉
Plus Steffy did mess with Hope's wedding. So who is the trouble maker now. Remember the gondola. That was Bill and Steffy's doing. And the truth will come out about what those 2 crazy people did to Hope.
That wasn't messing with Hope and Liam's wedding. Hope dumped Liam before that and in typical Hope Logan behavior, she suddenly had to have Liam back once she found out he was moving on with Steffy.
The only one up Steffy has on Hope is sexuality
RealTalkerLady u are so correct
It’s not just that. Steffy’s personality shouldn’t be reduced to being a hot woman up to anything in the bedroom. She is fiery, independent, loyal, strong-willed and funny. She is not full of drama and over-the-top, emotionally all over the place; she knows what she wants, she is sensible and does not throw tantrums or childishly expects everything to be handed to her on a silver plate. I get sick every time I hear Hopeless parrot how she is “robbed” of this and that - and yet, Steffy, with losing a child and dealing this ON HER OWN while Hope wasted all of 5 seconds to go after a grieving woman’s husband, and being through a lot of stuff, never complained and whined and stomped her feet. Steffy is a woman. Hopeless is a child. And her so called principles is just a decoy to hide her manipulative character; at the end of the day, she is just as deceptive as her mother. The latter used her in-your-face sexuality to attract men and her daughter uses abstinence to play them like puppets too. Two sides of the same coin. But both have the same energy; always the perpetual victims, always going after their “destiny(ies)”, always talking out of two sides of their mouths, quick to point the finger to others but never taking the blame for their own, much MUCH worse wrongdoings.
@@act3finale Nobody’s reading that 😂
@@act3finale Everything you said is 100% facts!
11:50 - 12:08 🤣🤣🤣🥰🥰👨👩👧👧
damn look at liam desiring those lips, he had to snap out of it. lmao!
More like Steffy dresses like Brooke used to. Using her body , instead of her brain .
Hopeless always thinks an apology will fix everything. He told her he's with Steffy and she still persists. She's truly Hopeless!!!
Kelly wants to make sure her husband is on the safe side that unfaithful husband of her ever having agenders
Good
so Dope are you interested in Caroline welfare or just getting LIAM
You should take a look to Liam and his expression when Steffy was kissing his neck. That speaks volumes
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@@MsGhost79Liam was making that face because hope was laying a guilt trip on him. He's a rescue ranger, and she's a chronic victim needing to be saved.
If he looks at steffy the way he looks at hope, you say it's lust. If he looks at hope the same way he looks at Steffy, you say it's love.
Liam isn't worth it and I'm glad steffy moved on. Why anyone would want their favorite character with Liam is insane but you keep your fingers crossed that Hope and Liam stay together until they're older than dirt 😅
Just look that snake 🐍 in Liam 🏠 the is no way to get u beacose she is pregnant baby maker steffy
"Why are you doing this I can't do this" -Liam she's actually doing nothing except for talking and apologizing to you, you are the one who is grabbing her and staring at her eyes and her lips with Love
Tell here Hope u don't ask u what u life back he must tell here back of dollars bill Spencer
Steffy always using sex to keep Liam in check doing the same thing she has always accused Brooke of doing,A LOT of men like a woman who has no inhibitions and Steffy didn’t have a bone in her body of inhibitions,Hope has issues and that’s okay so did Steffy,Liam should’ve left both of them alone until he could decide who he really wanted to be with,Brooke should’ve never gotten with Bill he didn’t like Hope or Rick and he was a master manipulator and Steffy was like that she knew exactly how to work people and she definitely worked on Liam.
Hope introduced Liam to his father so hope deserves to be with Liam
Stop saying that hope
You need to stop rick
But still yet after these episodes you still told lie after lie Steffy ho!!!!
No you can’t
Hhh Hopeless pulling a Stephi 🤣🤣🤣
U have to therend him siral killer bill bully bill specer shem on bill