I didn't think I'd ever see this topic discussed so openly with such a knowledgeable, empathetic, and kind scholar. Well done to the moderators for keeping the conversation so open and honest and to the point. You all handled this topic really beautifully and thoughtfully. I have shared this with so many people. May Allah reward all of you and increase your tawfiq!
I’ve been a silent watcher of these podcasts for a while, Ma’sha’Allah great podcast, I’ve often had discussions with my family that being depressed doesn’t mean that a person isn’t a believer and it’s nice to see justification for that argument. Thank you for what you guys are doing, love the variety of speakers
I had the honour of attending his majlis in person once in a South London Imambargah and very much liked his content and now after many years today I am watching this podcast where he is guest speaker .I wish him lots of Duas . May Allah bless him 🤲
I feel this topic should be re- addressed as abuse and forgiveness . Whilst the host intended on talking about narcissistic behaviour , the talk veers towards the abused invited to forgive. And while the learned Sheikh gives good reasons and examples from the prophets times for doing this, he equally dismisses the impact of abuse on a person. Furthermore, on the one hand, the sheikh clearly admonishes the act of domestic violence which is really helpful, the advice to not to proceed to tell the authorities in case children are taken away or separated, is very unhelpful, because it lends to the lack of understanding of the dangererous impact third party abuse can have on children. Women being abused by fathers sadly is a real problem and the fact the learned speaker has never heard of this before is telling of how much we need to understand abuse and it's many forms Thank you for addressing the issue of narcissistic behaviour but this topic needs more broader understanding
Thank you for your feedback! We agree that this only has scratched the surface and is focused on a religious approach to the discussion. We're keen to do more episodes on narcissism and trauma from the psychiatric perspective with experts - as one short discussion is not sufficient. All points needs to be approached with caution as these are perspectives from one scholar.
Wait I thought show ending why it says Goodbye after maghrib a video you uploaded 1 month ago when you uploading more videos i'm confused still still love the show
We benefit a lot from this , but I have pointed the holy Quran chapter 19-24( Indeed, those who love to see indecency spread among the believers will suffer a painful punishment in this life and the Hereafter. Allah knows and you do not know.) This chapter mean those who have an agenda against believers communities and work by all methods to spread indecency , using songs or acts or encouraging or speech’s or wearing type of clothing or making stories to make sins is okay I believe this is what the chapter of Quran talk about , Not if someone something happened to her/him if talk about it would encourage other to do so or make things worse to community But maybe there are better way to keep everyone not hurt and lost faith
Thank you for your efforts and to Sayid as well. I hope you won't take offence to my observations, but I feel there are two important points worth addressing: Referring to the noble Prophet (SAWA) as having "food poisoning" is misleading. It risks trivializing the event, suggesting something akin to salmonella from a bad meal (iyathubillah). At best, it is imprecise; at worst, it could be seen as dishonest. If one is not prepared to convey the truth as transmitted by Al-Ayashi-that he (SAWA) was poisoned by Aisha and Hafsa at the instigation of the hypocrites-then it is perhaps better to refrain from approaching this topic to avoid confusion or diminishment of its seriousness. While he may be forgiven for not being a native English speaker, and we may lack some of the nuance and context behind the deeply tragic story he recounts, the way it is presented is concerning. A soundbite referencing a hadith about a shocking act of paraphilia draws a false equivalence of profound harm inflicted upon a living, breathing human being by those closest to her. Additionally, it would be better not to sidestep the harsh reality of Islamic law: such a perverted oppressor of those closest to him, would be unequivocally deserving of the hadd punishment. In sensitive matters such as these, truth must still prevail. As the saying goes, "Things should be made as simple as possible, but not simpler." It is better to either speak the truth fully or avoid such topics altogether if the audience may struggle with the necessary details.
I think it s unfair to say that it s linked fo childhood trauma, it s unacceptable behaviour which is abusive to others. They know what they are doing and get a kick out of emotionally hurt others. Our communities have let us down because imams are narcissists.
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When are you guys going to invite Lily Jay from Australia?
I didn't think I'd ever see this topic discussed so openly with such a knowledgeable, empathetic, and kind scholar. Well done to the moderators for keeping the conversation so open and honest and to the point. You all handled this topic really beautifully and thoughtfully. I have shared this with so many people. May Allah reward all of you and increase your tawfiq!
I really appreciate that you’re exposing this mental disorder, please continue doing it!
I’ve been a silent watcher of these podcasts for a while, Ma’sha’Allah great podcast, I’ve often had discussions with my family that being depressed doesn’t mean that a person isn’t a believer and it’s nice to see justification for that argument.
Thank you for what you guys are doing, love the variety of speakers
This means a lot! Thank you.
I had the honour of attending his majlis in person once in a South London Imambargah and very much liked his content and now after many years today I am watching this podcast where he is guest speaker .I wish him lots of Duas . May Allah bless him 🤲
This was a difficult listen however very necessary. Best one so far, MashaAllah.
I would love to see more of this kind of topics. Can you please invite Sheikh Javad Shomali next time and discuss more psychology, behavior and Islam.
I feel this topic should be re- addressed as abuse and forgiveness . Whilst the host intended on talking about narcissistic behaviour , the talk veers towards the abused invited to forgive. And while the learned Sheikh gives good reasons and examples from the prophets times for doing this, he equally dismisses the impact of abuse on a person. Furthermore, on the one hand, the sheikh clearly admonishes the act of domestic violence which is really helpful, the advice to not to proceed to tell the authorities in case children are taken away or separated, is very unhelpful, because it lends to the lack of understanding of the dangererous impact third party abuse can have on children.
Women being abused by fathers sadly is a real problem and the fact the learned speaker has never heard of this before is telling of how much we need to understand abuse and it's many forms
Thank you for addressing the issue of narcissistic behaviour but this topic needs more broader understanding
Thank you for your feedback! We agree that this only has scratched the surface and is focused on a religious approach to the discussion. We're keen to do more episodes on narcissism and trauma from the psychiatric perspective with experts - as one short discussion is not sufficient. All points needs to be approached with caution as these are perspectives from one scholar.
The best speaker! What an honorable guest🤲🏽🫡
This was an extraordinary listen. Thank you for shedding light on some of our struggles.
Excellent work guys Jazak Allah
Excellent work
JazakAllah
❤❤❤
How does one get in touch with the Sayed?
You can contact Islamic Educational Center of Orange County via details on their website - this is the organisation ran by the Sayed
Wait I thought show ending why it says Goodbye after maghrib a video you uploaded 1 month ago when you uploading more videos i'm confused still still love the show
Haha, thank you for the support. If you go back and watch the 'Goodbye After Maghrib' episode, you can find out what he was referring to!
@@AfterMaghribOh OK thanks ALLAH bless everyone at After Maghrib 😊
We benefit a lot from this , but I have pointed the holy Quran chapter 19-24( Indeed, those who love to see indecency spread among the believers will suffer a painful punishment in this life and the Hereafter. Allah knows and you do not know.)
This chapter mean those who have an agenda against believers communities and work by all methods to spread indecency , using songs or acts or encouraging or speech’s or wearing type of clothing or making stories to make sins is okay I believe this is what the chapter of Quran talk about ,
Not if someone something happened to her/him if talk about it would encourage other to do so or make things worse to community
But maybe there are better way to keep everyone not hurt and lost faith
Salaams
Any way we can get in contact with this molana ?
You can contact Islamic Educational Center of Orange County via details on their website - this is the organisation ran by the Sayed
Thank you Jazakallah
Thank you for your efforts and to Sayid as well. I hope you won't take offence to my observations, but I feel there are two important points worth addressing:
Referring to the noble Prophet (SAWA) as having "food poisoning" is misleading. It risks trivializing the event, suggesting something akin to
salmonella from a bad meal (iyathubillah). At best, it is imprecise; at worst, it could be seen as dishonest. If one is not prepared to convey the truth as transmitted by Al-Ayashi-that he (SAWA) was poisoned by Aisha and Hafsa at the instigation of the hypocrites-then it is perhaps better to refrain from approaching this topic to avoid confusion or diminishment of its seriousness.
While he may be forgiven for not being a native English speaker, and we may lack some of the nuance and context behind the deeply tragic story he recounts, the way it is presented is concerning. A soundbite referencing a hadith about a shocking act of paraphilia draws a false equivalence of profound harm inflicted upon a living, breathing human being by those closest to her.
Additionally, it would be better not to sidestep the harsh reality of Islamic law: such a perverted oppressor of those closest to him, would be unequivocally deserving of the hadd punishment.
In sensitive matters such as these, truth must still prevail. As the saying goes, "Things should be made as simple as possible, but not simpler." It is better to either speak the truth fully or avoid such topics altogether if the audience may struggle with the necessary details.
I think it s unfair to say that it s linked fo childhood trauma, it s unacceptable behaviour which is abusive to others. They know what they are doing and get a kick out of emotionally hurt others. Our communities have let us down because imams are narcissists.