Carl Lewis vs. Ben Johnson (#2), Zúrich 17-Ag-1988
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- Опубліковано 23 бер 2008
- Zúrich, 17 de agosto de 1988. Carl Lewis y Ben Johnson se enfrentan un mes antes de los Juegos de Seúl por primera vez desde los Mundiales de Roma'87. La victoria fue para Carl Lewis con 9"93. En segundo lugar quedó Calvin Smith.
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I interviewed Carl in February 1988 (for my radio program) - he was caughing throughout the interview, and he kept caughing over the next many months leading up to the US Olympic trials (where he tested positive for remedy written in Chinese against caugh; but it contained ephedrine, so he tested positive, but was later cleared to compete according to the rules)!
Carl is even caughing in this video - only a moment before the race starts!
why was he coughing.....(u wrote "caughing")...
So, before the Olympics, he takes a 'remedy' written in Chinese, and has no idea what's in it). Should have been banned for stupidy, if anything
well yall know he and the rest of team USA were cheaters so lets cut to the chase was involved in Athletics back then so its was real show when they occasionally change the hours of the events ok the peop;e were rushing to the bathrooms to take their pills and essentilly those pills and all stimulants would help u if u were really good otherwise good luck
was he coughing or laughing?
This was a month before Johnson tested positive for Stanazolol at the Olympics. It was also a month after Lewis tested positive for 3 separate substances at the US Olympic Trials in Indianapolis. The difference being that Lewis's positive was covered up by US authorities. That wasn't found out until 2001. Lewis later admitted he was only one of hundreds of athletes that had their positive tests hidden by US track & field
I couldn't stand Carl Lewis
What a Bull shitter. Lewis was on the juice big time. Every man on that line was on the juice or never would have qualified!!
Wow!! I wasn't aware of that. It is sad that only Ben Johnson was demonized
SSSSSSSSSSSHHHHHH don't burst the bubbles of the NPCs !!!!
They must stay ignorant of the fact that 99,9999999% of all world level athletes are on PEDs.
@@victorsimiyuwasilwa839 ,the Ben Johnson 1988 soul olympics,is the best race in history...the Olympics are the steroid games if you ask me
Impresionante ✌️✌️
Ben johnson fue mi velocista favorito !!
You remember BULLET Johnson,. He use to be called, whole atmosphere surrounding 100 meters was electrifying
A Cheater?
Carla desde Cali valle Colombia tremendo deportista hoy lo superó una grande de
i remember i was at a track meet in California where they raced and johnson was on steroids.. so me and my cousin who also ran track and are like 11.. run to the track and ask for ben's autograph.. and he ignored us and told us to get out of here..
then sadly as we watched 2 white kids came up and said samething as us and he was like sure anything.. and did all kinds of stuff for them.. then we saw carl lewis my favorite (i had his hair cut) we ask him for a autograph and he took off his shoe he just won with and gave one to each of us!!! autographed!!! :) thanks carl i still have the shoe! :)
qnd to ben johnson.. eff you bish arse ninja! lol pathetic cheater..
Many took steroids. Carl Lewis took steroids as well!
@@SenseiEli i dont recall medals being taken from him for being on steriods whiie in competiton
@@omnigeddon That is true...
They took nothing from him and everything from Ben Jhonson! That it ture!
Lewis: 'Who cares I failed drug test?' | Athletics | The Guardian
@@omnigeddon Of course not. The USTFA shelters their cheaters and Carl Lewis was easily one of the biggest. Total hipocrisy!
Lewis tenía una zancada difícil de igualar, pulveriza a cualquiera al final. !
Carl didn't even lift weights much until Ben beat him. I have friends from the USA team during that era. I saw Carl at a meet when he was 18 and still in High School. He nearly jumped out of the long jump pit in Albuquerque. He didn't know what a steroid was at that time and he was beating everybody in 3 events. He was the best natural sprinter I have ever seen. His technique was flawless. His ability to get up vertically and stay in the air for the long jump was incredible. He ran 5 events in many meets when the other sprinters ran 1, 2, or 3 at the most. He was the best speed athlete in Track and Field history.
Do you think if he just did 100m.he would of ran 9.6?
Yeah, so many people slinging mud on here that everyone was on steroids and not just Ben. Bottom line is, removing the question of steroids, Ben wouldn't even be within 8 feet of Lewis, and neither would anyone else.. Lewis was an incredible athlete that may have been lab enhanced at some points in his career, Ben's career was lab made.
LOL!
Natural??? Carl Lewis admitted it years later that he had been using "substances" too
칼루이스는어디서출생하였나요?
5:42 When the races finally starts
SiHi was Hugh lg for gg
Thank You😁
Só as feras!
I did a 10.8 sec for the 100 Meters in 1979, now I have a stuffed right hip, ha ha! I loved running! Now I can hardly walk ! Enjoy life while you can!
Astros del Deporte Mundial 🏋️🌏🌏🙏
love it!💚❤💙💗💖💜💖💜😍😍
5:40 for the actual sprint. Thank you
Lewis tested positive for an amount so small that by today's drug standards it would be a negative result.
Johnson on the other hand....a cheat!! He couldn't even admit a false start and showed lack of sportsmanship in waving his hand away at official....guy disrespects the sport
Come on mike, spicetruck(nari) was only giving the actual time Of The race, there's no need to throw all sorts of allegations at him
Spicetruck (Nari) thank u
Thanks
Carl Lewis ran with such composure and with an amazing high knee. This gave him such a large stride pattern when compared to his competitors. Thus he was nearly always able to make up ground on them in the second half of his 100 meter races. The way he caught and passed this talented field was testimont to his amazing technique and talent. He kept increasing his work rate and speed just at the moment most of the field were marginally decreasing theirs.
Yep.With an amazing high level of pharmaceuticals he caught and passed this talented field...
I remember in Canada, regularity scheduled TV was interrupted to give us live broadcast of this race!
Well said, I remember watching it on Canadian Broadcasting Corporation, the irreplaceable Geoff Gowan was giving expert commentary!
There have been many great sprinters but none of them looked as graceful and as beautiful as King Carl Lewis. The best that's ever lived .
The great caral levis
Waoo que carrera.
Siempre admiradora Lewis, excelente carrera para recordar.
Winning streaks, doping freaks adopting marchiavelian mantra. The end justifying the means?Is that the way life goes ...?
Son of the wind!
wonderful
Awesome 😎
Il migliore....il figlio del vento,il piu bel atleta velocista del Pianeta ❤❤❤
This was a historic race
Carl had one heck of a top end charge.
So true
Where was his top end in Seoul ?
@@bobdobric6787 it was still there. He ran 9.92 in the 1988 Seoul 100m final. He ran faster at Seoul than he did in this race. Indeed, after Johnson had his two world records removed from the record books, Carl's time at Seoul became the official world record for the event. He ran faster yet again at the 1991 World Championships where he set a WR time of 9.84
@@ivanjulian2532 look at the screen. The world record at the time was 9.83 run by the gentleman in Lane 8, Mr Calvin Smith. Left college and never used a coach, trained in a field and still the fastest man bar the junkie gang.
Iv
What a run carl
@Julzellis You have worn all the battyrider shorts to come to this conclusion I take it?
I used to idolise Ben Johnson as 10 year old kid in '88. When the Seoul scandal happened, I was literally heart-broken.
I feel same with Pantani 🚴♂️ doping
But it was a fair race…the were all on roids…he won fair and square…
@@billpo That's right, all athletes at this level are on it.
Still the greatest to me.
@@valentinotera3244 I think with the tracks, shoes etc. Someone worked out Johnson could have well beaten Bolt. We'll never know I guess.
Ingat waktu masih SD.. CARL LEWIS
i like how the cera people chased him on his victory lap
What pixel was he?
44 strides for Lewis - 47 for Johnson.
Of course. Ben was much shorter
Calvin smith and Allen wells were class
Ben is like I won the 90 meter dash.
Let's make that an Olympic event.
This was Johnsons first race back after a moderate hamstring injury. He was rusty, carl had tapered
And as confirmed by his coach and doctor, went away for another course of steroids after losing this race.
Su talento es natural,fina técnica de desplazamiento los vemos cómo máquinas humanas,difícil de superarlos.
Actually it is Carl Lewis sister Carol Lewis...who was also a 1984 Olympian in the Long Jump. She now is a premier Track N Field corespondant and expert that covers most top track n field Championships for the United States. If you here a woman talking in the back ground during most track n field championships its most likely her.
bmm
if anyone wants to know when the race starts, its at 5:40
Lol
7pp
Thanks for spoiling the movie
Www davechappella
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Esto si eran comentaristas de verdad. Hasta te enterabas por cual tipo de mujer tenía preferencia el deportista antes de la carrera.
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Excelente carrera, lo ví a Carl en los juegos Olímpicos de Montreal.
En Montreal?
Lewis en Montreal tenía 15 años. Sus primeros Juegos Olímpicos fueron en 1984, no en 1976.
La primera vez que lo vi fue en el campeonato del mundo de Helsinki, creo que en 1983.
Look at the kids. They were so excited.....😁😁😁
Added burst from Carl!!!
This wasn't the main event that night. Butch Reynolds broke Lee Evans' world record at 400m. Memorable meet.
Most people don't even know who Lee Evan's is, sadly. Let alone why his world record was so special.
Yes, but Reynolds was on steroids and was caught later on.
Previous generations athletes like Lee Evans' (1968) or Edwin Mose's (400 m hurdles - 1976) were pure.
I found Carl very annoying to listen to but he was the most beautifully gifted sprinter. Best action ever. So fluid and graceful - like a cheetah. Best long jumper ever, too.
Que grande Gregorio Parra
I had forgotten how Ben tried to elbow Carl out of the race, but Carl would not be denied and blew right by him, wow.
what race are you watching fan boy
A ten minute clip for a ten second race.
And what were the times for the other competitors??
Bolt se ha de carcajear de éstos
NO,BOLT LEARNED FROM CARL LEWIS AND ATHLETES BEFORE HIM...
Looks like only very few of us here comment about the beauty of that race in itself. Drug or not, it's a great race. with Lewis over celebrating like he's won the olympic final. Great technique though. & Christie aged 28 but not at his peak yet, he actually ran his best races between 31 and 35 years-old. Check out Calvin Smith lane 8, he almost caught Lewis!
Sprinters like Christie don’t peak in their 30s without hormones that he wasn’t using as much till later.
@@hardcorehousei don’t know what Christie was using but he only started running seriously in his mid-20s (a couple of years before this race) so I don’t know if that had some impact on his continuing to run elite times well into his 30s?
Competencia de 🪐🪐🪐🪐🪐🪐🪐🪐😂😂😂🏋🏿♂️🏋🏿♂️🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾
Ben Johnson is still the best.
Raro que nunk en competencias olimpicas les hayan descubierto dopajes a los deportistas de USA?.Todas han sido cuando ya han estado fuera de competencias
Dope
El mejor del Universo de por vida ,bendiciones para ud,Carl Lewwis.,11;52PM,10/11/2018/,Raleigh,NC.
Hoy en día con esos tiempos ni cuarto lugar
E sem esteróides... esse é o cara... até a chegada do Bolt.
Sabe de nada inocente
Lewis' reaction may have goaded Johnson . Johnson's look at 6:33 was like, 'at the Olympics it's win at all costs'.
He was coming off a hamstring injury. When he was asked if he wants to race it he replied that he knew he was going to lose and just wanted to see where he’s at. This really shows carl’s arrogance, he wins a pointless race and acts like he won the olympics. I always preferred ben’s humble approach. He performed and that was it.
@@user-co1gi7yd2r , arrogance? Like Ben and the juice. Shut your mouth boy
@@patrickmelhorn793 arrogance? Absolutely.
Carl Lewis will go down as one of top 5 100m runners of all time.
+L Duranceau hell no, he will always be 2nd fiddle to ben johnson.
+Cheema0113 Check your math, son. He can be "2nd fiddle" to Ben Johnson and still be in the top 5. Yes? No? Maybe?
Mufasa Jackson
no
To be fair, Carl Lewis raced in a different era. Compared to today's runners (ex: Usain Bolt), he would not stand a chance.
L Duranceau And Carl will go down as the #1 pussy of all time!
Wow..super speed
the race that led ben back to the juice....
True
Ben came back looking like an action figure.
Lolol i thought exactly the same. During Ben's annoyed walk at approx 6.40. i could almost his head thinking, "I'm nnnever going to be outjuiced again"
Lololol
6.30 to 6.40
Carl Lewis was also positive in Seoul....
Check out the investigation and how it was stitched up to save Olympics scandal.....
I see why they started the one jump and you're out rule. Watching these old videos almost every time in a race somebody jumped
Carl Lewis che atleta elegante
Still I can remember Ben johnson
Ma esiste una versione in italiano io l'ho sentita. Perche' non trasmettono quella?
Ben Johnson, will always be the G.O.A.T Sprinter.
Doping Ben Johnson. LOL
@@rcg9573 Every athlete used over dope back then. Johnson just ran out of luck.
Ben Johnson was drugged unknowingly by his own people, then blasted when he tested hot. Canada wanted the 100m and hung Ben to get it...temporarily. My aunt was a professional running athlete, she'd come back from meets, and tell me and my mom all the dirt! Back in the day, amphetamines were like candy - she took some, they made her sick and she took herself out of competition, but you're right, everyone was doping...led to the early death of Flo-Jo
@@lamontmelrose7640 Thank you
The GOAT is Bolt. I never thought I'd ever say that, but it is what it is!
Imoh was number?
He was complaining that a photographer's flash had triggered him to go.
Ben Johnson should never have told them he had been doping for 7 years when they caught him;Biggest mistake.So he lost his 9.83 world record too.The others were all doping too.
They were not all doping. They recognized that he was doping because he started outrunning the field consistently
@@cedric1234205 True. You watch a video of Ben Johnson in 1984 and he has basically the same build as Carl Lewis. Then you see him in 1986 and he looks like he put on 20 pounds of pure muscle and suddenly he explodes out of the starting blocks. Pretty blatant to the casual observer.
All these athletes are on drugs. If you think that they are Not you are Stone Cold naive. Too much money involved. And they got the best doctors and scientists to mask and cover their tracks.
My comment was in regard to Johnson's lack of ethics. Many athletes have been found guilty of doping. In Johnson's case, rather than admit to it and take responsibility, he feigned ignorance, then blamed his coach and even threw his teammates under the bus - a total scum. And even though many athletes do juice or other supplements, it was immediately and blatantly obvious in johnson's case because his appearance and performance changed radically between when he was cycled off and on the drugs. Carl Lewis's performance was consistent.
@@stilsonshotmailcom People like you are very naive. Every top Olympic sprinter in the last 40 years took PEDs including Carl Lewis.
Carl had that 5th gear. Slow starter but if he was close, he ran by ya!
Mofos today still mad at Lewis because Johnson cheated, lol! Well done CL!
That makes no sense.
Lewis tested positive too. We all know that. Not at that particular time. Johnson tried to cheat in the Olympic games. Lewis cheated a year before that. Marion Jones and others have been caught too.
he tested positive to for ephedrine in 1988 but the US anti doping agency covered up the violation. I've taken sudafed for colds when playing hockey or running and I never noticed any kind of power boost from them. Its probably more psycological than anything else
Many claim Lewis was also using but agree, never saw any substantial proof of the type of eastern bloc doping with Lewis.
Masking agent for steroids team USA knows how to pass doping
No! I interviewed Carl in February 1988 (for my radio program) - he was caughing throughout the interview, and he kept caughing over the next many months leading up to the US Olympic trials (where he tested positive for remedy written in Chinese against caugh; but it contained ephedrine, so he tested positive, but was later cleared to compete according to the rules)!
Carl is even caughing in this video - only a moment before the race starts!
The guy who failed 7 drug tests won .But got CRUSHED in the Olympics !
Lewis coming from behind as always.
@Daniel Laurence yes,Lewis was not a particularly fast starter,he often won by coming from behind, getting stronger as the race went on.
About 60 or 70m mark Ben Johnson’s right foot actually crosses the line. His upper body and arm are in CARL Lewis’s Lane! Should he have been disqualified?
Yes..got smoked by Lewis
@@michaeladrian2210 No, in all strait ahead sprints, you're only disqualified if you hinder your competitor!
He must have seen the infamous Daley Thompson t-shirt that he wore that mentioned this about Lewis!
Remember that well
Calvin Smith: the real champ !!! 👊👊👊
Lewis más completo y al natural
Funny 😂🤣
Ben consistently had the fastest start - he trained to delay it so it wouldn't be called as a false start.
Mans too fast
@shaanee- What he trained himself to do was to stop anticipating the gun. The False Start Detection System analyses pressure on the starting blocks from 0.3 seconds before the gun to 0.7 seconds after the gun. So the runner has to start exerting increasing pressure on the blocks 0.3 seconds BEFORE the gun and reach the maximum allowable force 0.7 seconds AFTER the gun to be hit with a false start.
@@TheNYgolfer not according to his coach Charlie Francis
He wasn’t trained to delay it…the start was his biggest advantage and always improved dramatically when juicing
Битва Титанов! Я болел за Бенджамена..
Wow
Ask Mike Powell if Lewis was "dainty n precious" when he jumped over 29 feet 3 times in one meet and one 29ft was INTO wind
Lewis jumped over 28' feet multiple times in the same meet, not 29'. The world record is barely over 29' and I don't believe Lewis ever crossed the 29' threshold.
Twilight Living and his gay daddy bugger each other every night. His mommy looks on barking while they bugger each other. LOL
@@christansdad Sorry but you are wrong, he did and more than once
@@christansdad In the 1991 World Championships Lewis’s final three jumps were 29’ 2.75” (wind aided), 29’ 1” (not wind aided), and 29’ 0” (not wind aided). Mike Powell jumped 29’ 4.25” (not wind aided) right after Lewis’s wind aided jump to officially break Bob Beamon’s long standing record and win the event. That record still stands. These are VERY easy to check facts.
Ben was recovering from a hammy.
Ben was also suffering from shrunken balls n rage at the time...
@@robertbeggs10 shut the fuck up loser. He is a champion
Car Lewis 9 gol medal in 3 different events, Ben jonson is nothing
@@miguelangelmosquera5273 Now we have Andre Degrasse, a clean athlete, and Coleman, who keeps dodging the authorities.
@@robertbeggs10 Carl wasn't clean neither.
Any idea why the Nigerian flag was displayed as being the Indian flag for Chidi Imoh?
Ben ran 10.0 in this race finishing 3rd. He looked rather slim at first glance. I wonder if he laid off the PEDs to gauge where he truly was, then seeing how poorly he performed upped his juice for the Olympics, because by the time he got there his physique was markedly larger than what we see here only a month before. Of course, we all know how well he did at the Olympics and what all transpired and why. And of course, we know through evidence and admission that nearly all the racers in the Seoul 100 meter final were PED cheaters. Ben at least comes off as a sympathetic figure. Carl Lewis even after all these years comes off as an arrogant prick. His "gold" medal should be revoked as well, except the IOC stating that it was after the statute of limitations and therefore too late to do anything about it.
I totally agree with everything you said. Lewis was an arrogant prick. Perfectly put.
Carl Lewis era uno de mis idolos cuando era chico.
Was Lewis on steoids...or other stuff like ephadrine!
kelikel2 Yes!
Obviously
The masses like to think they know but in truth no proof whatsoever he was on the type of eastern block steroid/gh cocktail the Canadians and FloJo were on.
There was proof of Carl Lewis failing drug test, he failed 3 in one year and they just let it go then another one that he said he accidentally took and they took his word for it and let it go. He admitted his self and said everyone was doing it and got away with it
Ben Johnson👍
Malas salidas de carl pero nadie remataba mejor que el
From Indonesia present
Ben’s coach Charlie Francis wrote in his book that Ben coming off his injury still not at peak fitness, getting a bad, for Ben, start and swerving all over his lane barely lost this race.
Francis knew even from the loss Ben would win in Seoul a month later.
El repaso que les da Gregorio Parra al principio XD
Johnson rallenta vistosamente negli ultimi 30mt, veniva da un infortunio ma soprattutto voleva nascondere le sue reali possibilità e fomentare quelle di Lewis in vista dell'imminente appuntamento olimpico.
I like your ability to come from behind
😂🤣😂🤣
Atheletics has improved tremendously
Sinceramente descreo de q carl Lewis haya sido tan limpio xq en realidad para llegar a ese nivel todos pero absolutamente todos le agregan ayudin y no precisamente lavandina a su talento innato.
Hizo una rabieta cuando Bolt rompió varios récords, según él, Bolt para correr así usaba "ayudín".
Including Bolt.
I usually cover 100meter in 3 seconds,if there isn't any traffic jam😉😂
That's one heck of a joke
I don't want 2 break anything....not even 100 metre world record😀😀
No habian velocistas jamaicanos?
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they all used every one of them so it was a fair race Ben should have his medals reinstated
+shevegen LOL
crazy JAM SESSION STUFF exactly!!!!!
PROVE IT! I’ll give you a week to gather the evidence and if you can’t come back and show us the evidence then can we say you’re full of shit?
Prove Calvin Smith was
No way!!!