But Is The Lance Fun? | Monster Hunter World Iceborne First Time LANCE
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- Опубліковано 3 жов 2024
- I'm a Longsword and Hunting Horn but figured it's time to try the Lance in Iceborne before making my weapon tier list.
Livestream of me using the Lance with Timestamps
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Guard skills are best at 3...4 and 5 have no advantages...
Firm foothold can reduce the knockback
Lance builds are generic
@frenchealwatson4643 I think you wanted to say 1, 3, 5 are the level we use and 2, 4 are the useless ones 😂
A surprising offensive skill for Lance is RESENTMENT. Because as long as you're fighting a somewhat threatening monster, you'll still take a small amount of chip damage when you block resulting in a red recoverable health. Meaning your follow up pokes after blocking will pretty much be guaranteed to get the bonus damage from Resentment.
Also because of how resilient you can become with Lance, it opens up some interesting options for you to replace your "get out of jail free" cards like swapping the temporal mantle for an impact mantle to get an easy KO with your head pokes. Or swapping the healing palico with the explosive one. It allows you to try out different things unrelated to the weapon. If you notice, Uno only went under 75% HP once in the video, and that was because he was trying to sharpen
(use a whetfish scale man!, the arena is what they're meant for!, it's like free speed sharpening)
I just wanted to add one more thing. Something I love about Resentment Lance is that I never felt the need to max it out. Since each point of resentment was a flat +5 base attack it didn't matter how many or few I used. Eventually I got to the point I was only running Guard 3 for the Impact reduction, because of how comfortable I got using lance I didn't have to worry about the stamina loss anymore.
But that would mean I have to fish grind and that doesn't sound fun to me. If I get hit while sharpening, I get it, I don't have to be peak perfection while playing lol.
Can't keep up with resentment if you using health augment, the only skill good pair with resentment is dragonvein awakening,
To answer ur question and give some tipps (in case you wanna give the weapon another try)
-yes offensive guards time window is pretty large and i kinda wish it was shorter and the payoff was better
-no it does not give extra guard when you time your guard
My tipps for you:
-when you use the normal guard you go poke->wait->guard since you cant guard after a poke. So instead always use the counters at the last second. They can be used right after you did a poke. And the counters can also activate offensive guard
Generally:
-counter thrust (block+circle) for single hits or combo attacks (example: barrioths tail sweep or tackel)
-power guard (hold block+circle and then press x) against multi hits or if you want to draw out the counter. (This one also has higher knock back resistance but takes more chip damage) example barrioths pounce
-guard advance (block+direction+triangle) for repositioning. Example you could have guard advanced through barrioths ice blast instead of waiting
-Clutchclaw counter against attacks where the monster ends up far awaay from you like barritohs jumps or his dive out of the air
2 Things to the last one A) it doesnt work against elemental attacks and B) just like the normal block the L+circle cant be used right after a poke. HOWEVER you can also do the counter the same way you do power guard, but instead of pressing X you press the L Button (so hold block+cirlce and press L) which can be used right after a poke.
This should help to make the weapon feel more fluid since you dont need to akwardly pause after a poke and then block, but just keep poking and use the counters right befor being hit
few things from someone that, in post game, picked up the lance and fell in love with it: Turning around during the charge, the imput is, if I recall correctly, back on the stick+A, also during the charge you can instantly go into a block to stop, and jump mid charge to perform air thrusts by pressing forward+A (feels amazing to get mounts this way). The counter, in theory, grapples to the part of the monster that makes contact to your character while you hold the counter stance, and you can use slinger while guarding (it's the stance you go into by aiming with the weapon out). Let's see, what's next, the power stance you get into that automatically counters when hit is nice for quick blocks then going straight back into the offensive, but the crouching power guard, if you wait a second, will glow, and that indicates that your guard now protects you 360 degrees, not just the direction your shield is pointing. Also, from that you can thrust the spear in any direction using the analog, it's good to get out of the stance and redirect towards the monster. The shield jump you were doing before entering the arena, has a guard point, so it's great to advance through attacks and get closer to the monsters. Comment is messy, and I probably missed a few things, since at the end of the day, I'm not a Lance main, just enjoy using the weapon, and haven't really played MHW in a while, but always enjoy your content, great work
Forgot to mention that the power guard gives guard up when it starts glowing and it always protects you 360 degrees dont spread misinformation
@@siduxjxhdgzhdjxhxuuxxyhgg1079 like I said, I haven't played in a while and lance isn't even my main, this is all from memory so I was bound to get a mistake or two there
Hey Uno, I'm a Lance main and I'm happy seeing you give it a go in World Icebourne. When I build skills for Lance, I prioritize defense capabilities over offensive skills. Because if I can stay with the monster, I keep attacking to make up for lack of big damage numbers. Ironically, a great defense lets me go harder on offense. I always run max guard and guard up. Flinch free, constitution and stamina surge. Offensive Guard is also nice. Also Mind's Eye to avoid bouncing off and giving the monster an opening. Quick Sheathe is good for dodging Novas and retreating when blocking isn't viable.
I love your vids man and i have to say i was waiting for you to try lance in world for a while and it didnt disappoint. Good vid as always tho few tips for lance : never use guard 4 or 2 they are both useless bc they only reduce stamina depletion while guarding and not the knockback (that determine the knockback and the chip damage as a result) ; you can use clutch counter by using couter thrust (RT+B and then press LT) so its easier to put in a combo, the clutch counter gives u hyper armor for a sec or two when it connects so you cant get shaken off and if youre fast enough u can even change the spot to tenderize and still have the armor ; u can recover from a big knockback using by using power guard (RT+A) ; the power guard has reduced knockback but increase chip damage and since IB it has a built guard up (after you power guard for a while the qhield will glow blue thats the moment u have guard up). Oh also guard dash (RT+stick+Y) has built-in guard+2. Anyway i hope u try the weapon some more and have fun with it its super fun in IB and i hope some people will give it a shot after your vid. ☺️
Look at this man. This dood. He dirtied his hands and soul, touching this unholy aberration.
Salute fir your sacrifice.
the advancing guard into leaping thrust is your "rushdown" movement. that or your charge forward as you can guard cancel that at any time to protect yourself
He finally did it. Lancers unite he has done it but never disrespect the lance. This video will definitely come back in another form of you dissing the lance in wilds
I used the Lance (in base world before icebore) was announced but that was 5 or 6 years ago lol
Never considered picking up the lance until this video
Counter clutch gives you temporary knockdown/roar immunity and is perfect for initiating wallbangs/flinching and tenderizing parts.
Got a somewhat specialized Lance build for it, super fun to zip to a monster and stick it to 'em.
Dude pulled off a counter clutch claw and immediately became addicted to it
Ooo a lance video ❤
Lance is fun for me because it lets me play hyper aggressive like a crackhead 😆 anyways i’ll try to answer your questions
-Perfect blocking doesn’t make the block guard better for lance, just slap on guard 5 and trust in offensive guard 🙏
-The dash movement controls are all done with the X/A button and the left analog stick. ⬇️+X is back dash you wanted to do
-My Pre-fatty build was a mix between brachy and gold rathian. Divine blessing works for chip damage and gold rathian chest and waist max it out.
Lance 101:
Triple Poke is the only basic attack that matters. Upwards poke is better than forwards poke, unless for whatever reason upwards poke would whiff in a situation or hit a weaker hitzone. Never use side slap. Ever.
After doing three pokes, use counterthrust to reset the combo and start poking again.
If monster attacks you, counterthrust to counter and start poking again
If monster moves too far away, evade into position or guard dash + leaping thrust into position or dash attack into position and start poking again.
If you are facing the wrong way, power guard + strong poke to change direction and start poking again.
If you are not poking for several seconds at a time you are probably doing something wrong.
This isn't a defensive weapon. This is a rushdown weapon. You get into the monster's face and you do not get out of it, no matter how badly they try to shake you off.
13:23 I'd say it has a lot to do with the fact that Iceborne barioth is not very lance-compatible with its cross-arena leap and flying wind burst spam.
I played DB but i mained lance a year ago. WIll stay with it.
You did pretty well :) just need more confidence in it and you’ll become more aggressive, and in turn, get more of the ‘in your face’ fight that we love
I used to play lance but not much anymore unless I'm fighting Nergigante, it's very fun against Nergigante.
for me every weapon in the game is VERY fun to use, theres no exception
If his arms are broken, sure he cant land correctly. Thats why ou need to break arms and his tooth to weaken him much. And one thing: keep in mind that lance have most sharpness loss from all weapons because every hit reduce sharpness - Dual Blade every 3 hits for example.
counter trust is bettter in mhw, also it fun to counter after take a huge attack
From what I can tell you like insta-block, also known as EZ defense EZ offense.
Unfortunately a lot of new people fall into this category of "Lance players".
Where as Lance mains kinda avoid the "arcade-y win button" play style that's only in like two games.
Mostly this was my first time using it (I used it before in base world waaaay before Iceborne was announced) I definitely know where I'm going to put the Lance in my list.
Lance is an odd beast
It's weird movement, low number of flashy moves, questionable multiplayer viability, and inability to capitalize on a downed monster can be off-putting to other hunters.
I don't blame ppl for not vibing with Lance but I'm glad each weapon is different and someone can vibe with at least one weapon and gameplay can be shaken up simply by trying out a new one.
World Lance I slow and I poke. RISE LANCE power though counter change weapon color for power into the air downward multi hit spike attack. RISE is in my top 3 favorite games xD
World Lance has its merits, too. You can block Fatalis' flame cone attack with Lance.
Or as I like to put it:
Rise Lance: get gud with guard dash, try to hit the weak spot, don't misinput.
World Lance: poke poke poke, hop, poke poke poke, dash poke poke poke. No need to worry about complex combos, the bnb is the goat.
Haven't gotten to Rise yet, so it might not be the most accurate. Still need to beat Fatalis.
Dude you really need to start normal countering and poke more your best damage options are charged up lance charge and pokes only use ur triple hit stab dash for extra mobility its not worth the damage or the sharpness loss also your mobility options are very good with some practice you wont have to waddle around at all i usually just do guard dash into forward dash till i get to the monster/ lance charge is for free mounts and way bigger gaps u can also guard dash in any direction after a attack and its honestly better than normal longdash 99 percent of the time. I cant stress enough the loss of uptime by not normal countering though you have regular counter for single hits and most average attacks and power guard for multi hits or stuff that requires guard up and such
No clue what normal countering is since I just picked up the weapon 🤷🏾♂️ (minus the few times I played it in base world like 6 years ago)
@@Uno_Hunter Counter thrust (RT+ O on ps controller or RT+B on xbox controller). Can be used while guarding or in the middle of a poke combo (You can also cancel thrust to keep the poke combo going indefinitely instead of having to hop). There were many many instances throughout the fight where you could've countered the monster instead of just guarding.
also...
COUNTER THRUST
3:23