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    It wasn’t just Henry VIII’s wives that bore the brunt of his ire. His closest pals also met untimely ends for rubbing His Majesty the wrong way. One of the most unexpected was his lifelong friend and confidante Sir Thomas More.
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 83

  • @annettefournier9655
    @annettefournier9655 5 років тому +29

    And a year later Queen Anne and her brother met the same end. Henry was such a gem.

  • @dylan6091
    @dylan6091 5 років тому +12

    If you guys are interested in this story, there is an great movie on the topic called "A Man for All Seasons" that came out in 1966.

    • @uptonsavoie
      @uptonsavoie 4 роки тому

      A better cinematic version of the play starred Charlton Heston, Susannah York, and others. It matched Robert Bolt's play closely.

  • @virginagobetz4756
    @virginagobetz4756 5 років тому +20

    Surprised to hear that the Anglican Church regards St, Thomas More as a saint,when he denied the king as Supreme head of the Church.A great film about St.Thomas is "A Man For All Seasons",starring Paul Scofield,winner of six Academy Awards.

    • @upperleftcoastchelseafan7718
      @upperleftcoastchelseafan7718 4 роки тому

      The film won six awards, it also had two other nominee's who didn't win. The way you wrote that it sounds like your saying Paul Scofield is a six time Academy Award winner.

  • @micahphilson
    @micahphilson 5 років тому +21

    3:17 Wait, he was being tried for the Treasons Act of *1934?!*
    Wow, I'm glad it didn't become common practice to try people for laws made centuries in the future!

    • @giantred
      @giantred 5 років тому +2

      Time traveler: *Laughing knowingly at this comment*

  • @the88thdarcstar
    @the88thdarcstar 5 років тому +16

    IDK if I picked up on it in your Today I Found Out presentations, but on this channel I found nearly every time you say date I have to go back and listen again. It might be my ears but I think you say the dates just a tad to quickly. I mean this as constructive criticism. I appreciate everything you do and that you cite your sources.

    • @johnspera8369
      @johnspera8369 5 років тому +1

      No; i did too; he said 1934!

    • @micahphilson
      @micahphilson 5 років тому +2

      Alot of the time, I think "Wait, what exact time period was this?" and have to go back and search through.
      Though John Spera is right, the 1934 bit caught me way off guard, I definitely heard that date!

  • @sezarsezar2830
    @sezarsezar2830 5 років тому +45

    treason act of 1934? LOL

    • @craigstewart1532
      @craigstewart1532 5 років тому +9

      I'm glad I'm not the only one to catch that

    • @HighlightHistory
      @HighlightHistory  5 років тому +18

      Yes, apologies, verbal typo :)

    • @martalli
      @martalli 5 років тому +1

      @@HighlightHistory can you add a note from UA-cam overseeing the already uploaded video?

    • @giantred
      @giantred 5 років тому +2

      The best part is that he was canonized a year later ^_-

  • @LadyWhinesalot
    @LadyWhinesalot 5 років тому +4

    I love your background bookshelf...skulls and books!

  • @Bacopa68
    @Bacopa68 5 років тому +7

    I think Simon needs a jacket with patches on the elbows and a pipe for these videos. It would complete the look.

  • @PaulSteMarie
    @PaulSteMarie 5 років тому +7

    More is recognized as a saint by the Angelican Church? That's very, very odd.

  • @matthewjay660
    @matthewjay660 5 років тому +6

    Watch “The Tudors” on Netflix.

  • @acetate909
    @acetate909 5 років тому +5

    Henry the 8th horror of the world. He murdered his wife(s) and his frind(s). Amazing but not surprising that one of the most horrible men in English history is also the founder of the English Church.

    • @brantleyhester6641
      @brantleyhester6641 5 років тому +1

      Evan Fields Where is the Emglish church located? J/k

    • @acetate909
      @acetate909 5 років тому +1

      @@brantleyhester6641
      In my head I imagine as no Emglish church exists in the real world.
      Typo Fixed, thanks.

    • @PaulSteMarie
      @PaulSteMarie 5 років тому +1

      The other Tudors were similarly depraved. Mary burned protestants and Elizabeth hung catholics.

  • @Recon3Y3z
    @Recon3Y3z 5 років тому +5

    Great story. I didn't know this one. Thank you!

  • @ceciliasosaleger7714
    @ceciliasosaleger7714 5 років тому

    I’d love to see a fuller biography of him on your Biographics channel. I think he’s a fascinating person of great integrity while also being a product of his time (if the accounts of his persecution of Protestants are to be believed). The controversy surrounding his time as Chancellor is just as compelling as the events leading up to his death, in my opinion.

  • @constipatedinsincity4424
    @constipatedinsincity4424 5 років тому +4

    More more more !

  • @ianyork2655
    @ianyork2655 3 роки тому

    Personally sir Thomas more is probably one of my favorite tudor figures. He had a life outside of drama and I can appreciate him having ethics. If anyone deserved a sainthood or martyr status it was him

  • @francoislacombe9071
    @francoislacombe9071 5 років тому +5

    "No temporal man may be the head of the spirituality." Which, I believe, also disqualifies the Pope.

    • @uptonsavoie
      @uptonsavoie 4 роки тому +1

      "Temporal" here means "secular."

  • @vitors.7759
    @vitors.7759 5 років тому +2

    Saint Thomas More, pray for us!

  • @calichef1962
    @calichef1962 5 років тому

    Something that always felt weird to me as a child growing up in the Anglican/Episcopalian church was that we recited the Apostle's Creed every Sunday. It was the line, "...I believe in the holy Catholic church..." that made me question the whole recitation of the Apostle's Creed. I mean, Anglicans/Episcopals are protestants. Later, I discovered that the Presbyterian church says the Apostle's Creed, too! Weird for churches that claim to be protestant.

  • @rhijulbec1
    @rhijulbec1 5 років тому +3

    I'm always surprised when I hear the word "protestant" and the "Anglican Church" (CofE) in the same sentence, Simon. The CofE that I grew up in was more bloody catholic than the RCs.
    The reason I stopped believing in any gawd at 8 years old was, while taking catechism classes for first communion, we studied the "approach" prayer". One of the lines in that prayer is "I am not worthy so much as to gather up the crumbs from under thy table."
    Now my old man was an abusive drunk and I still loved him, yet this "father" whom I couldn't see, would not see on earth and supposedly loved me MORE than my earthly father, is telling me in an approach to consume his blood and body that I'm not fucking worthy? I asked the bishop why this was and he basically told (yelled more like) me I was wicked to ask and should NEVER question the word of gawd. Huh? Say that again? Riiiiiiiight! And I never believed again. Took me awhile to admit I'm an anti-theist, but man I'm out and proud now. 😂
    Just another somewhat relevant (a little) on the subject at hand.
    Jenn 💖 in Canada 🍁

    • @rafaelwilks
      @rafaelwilks 5 років тому

      LACRIMABILI STATU
      ENCYCLICAL OF POPE PIUS X
      ON THE INDIANS OF SOUTH AMERICA
      TO THE ARCHBISHOPS AND BISHOPS OF LATIN AMERICA
      Venerable Brethren,
      Health and the Apostolic Blessing.
      Being greatly moved by the deplorable condition of the Indians in Lower America, our illustrious predecessor Benedict XIV pleaded their cause, as you are aware, in most weighty words, in his letter Immensa Pastorum, given on December 22, 1741; and since we also have to deplore in many places almost the same things that he then lamented, we most earnestly recall those letters of his to your memory. For therein, among other things, Pope Benedict complained that although the Apostolic See had done much, and for a long time, to relieve their afflicted fortunes, there were even the "men of the orthodox faith who, as if they had utterly forgotten all sense of the charity poured forth in our hearts by the Holy Ghost, presumed to reduce the wretched Indians, without the light of faith, and even those who had been washed in the laver of regeneration, to servitude, or to sell them as slaves to others, or to deprive them of their property, and to treat them with such inhumanity that they were thus greatly hindered from embracing the Christian faith, and most strongly moved to regard it with abhorrence." It is true that soon afterwards the worst of these indignities - that is to say, slavery, properly so called - was, by the goodness of the merciful God, abolished; and to this public abolition of slavery in Brazil and in other regions the excellent men who governed those Republics were greatly moved and encouraged by the maternal care and insistence of the Church. And we gladly acknowledge that if it had not been for many and great obstacles that stood in the way, their plans would have had far greater success. Nevertheless, though much has thus been done for the Indians, there is much more that still remains to be done. And, indeed, when we consider the crimes and outrages still committed against them, our heart is filled with horror, and we are moved to great compassion for its most unhappy race. For what can be so cruel and so barbarous as to scourge men and brand them with hot iron, often for most trivial causes, often for a mere lust of cruelty; or, having suddenly overthrown them, to slay hundreds or thousands in one unceasing massacre; or to waste villages and districts and slaughter the inhabitants, so that some tribes, as we understand, have become extinct in these last few years?
      2. The lust of lucre has done much to make the minds of men so barbarous. But something also is due to the nature of the climate and the situation of these regions. For, as these places are subjected to burning southern sun, which casts a languor into the veins and as it were, destroys the vigor of virtue, and as they are far removed from the habits of religion and the vigilance of the State, and in a measure even from civil society, it easily comes to pass that those who have not already come there with evil morals soon begin to be corrupted, and then, when all bonds of right and duty are broken, they fall away into all hateful vices. Nor in this do they take any pity on the weakness of sex or age, so that we are ashamed to mention the crimes and outrages they commit in seeking out and selling women and children, wherein it may be truly said that they have surpassed the worst examples of pagan iniquity.
      3. For our part, indeed, when reports of these things were first brought to us, we hesitated for some time to give credence to such atrocities, since they certainly seemed to be incredible. But after we had been assured by abundant witnesses - to wit, by many of yourselves, Venerable Brethren, by the Delegates of the Apostolic See, by the missioners, and by other men wholly worthy of belief - we can no longer have any doubt as to the truth of these statements.
      4. Now, therefore, having pondered long on this matter, so that, as far as lies in our power, we may endeavor to remedy such great evils, with humble and suppliant prayer we beg of God that He may deign in His goodness to show us some opportune way of healing these wounds. For He Himself, Who is the most loving Maker and Redeemer of all mankind, since He has given us this desire of laboring for the saving of the Indians, will also assuredly give us those things that conduce to this end. Meanwhile, it greatly consoles us to know that those who bear rule in these Republics are making every endeavor to remove this outstanding disgrace and this stain from their States; which endeavors, indeed, we cannot sufficiently praise and approve. Since, however, these regions are far from the seats of Government, and are for the most part not readily accessible, these human endeavors of the civil powers, whether from the craft of the criminals, who can speedily cross the frontiers, or through the inactivity or perfidy of the officials, often do little good, and sometimes come to nothing. But if the work of the Church is added to the work of the State, then at length the desired fruit shall be obtained in greater abundance.
      5. Wherefore, Venerable Brethren, we call upon you, before all others, to give special care and thought to this cause, which is in every way worthy of your pastoral office and duty. And leaving the rest to your solicitude and diligence, we particularly urge you to foster and promote all the good works instituted in your dioceses for the benefit of the Indians, and to see that other works likely to contribute to this end may be instituted. In the next place you will diligently admonish your flocks on their most sacred duty of helping religious missions to the natives who first inhabited the American soil. Let them know that they ought to help this work especially in two ways, to wit, by their gifts and by their prayers; and that it is not only their religion, but their country also, that asks this of them. Do you, moreover, take care that wheresoever moral instruction is given, in seminaries, in colleges, in convent schools, and more especially in the churches, Christian charity, which holds all men, without distinction of nation or color, as true brethren, shall be continually preached and commended. And this charity must be made manifest not so much by words as by deeds. Moreover, every opportunity must be taken to show what a great dishonor is done to the Christian name by these base deeds, which we are here denouncing.
      6. As for our part, having good reason to hope for the consent and support of the public authorities, we have more especially taken care to extend the field of Apostolic labor in these broad regions, appointing further missionary stations, where the Indians can find safety and succor. For the Catholic Church has ever been a fertile mother of Apostolic men, who, pressed by the charity of Christ, are brought to give their lives for their brethren. And today, when so many abhor the faith or fall away from it, the zeal for spreading the Gospel among the barbarous nations is still strong in the clergy and in religious men and holy virgins; and this zeal grows greater and is spread abroad more widely by the power of the Holy Ghost, who helps the Church, His spouse, according to the needs of the time. Wherefore, we think it well to make greater use of those aids which by God's goodness are ready to our hand, in order to deliver the Indians, where their need is greatest, from the slavery of Satan and of wicked men. For the rest, since the preachers of the Gospel had watered these regions, not only with their sweat, but sometimes with their blood, we trust that at length a fair harvest of Christian kindness shall spring forth from their great labors and bear abundant fruit. And now, in order that what you shall do for the benefit of the Indians, whether of your own accord or at our exhortation, may be the more efficacious by the help of our Apostolic authority, we, mindful of the example of our aforesaid predecessor, condemn and declare guilty of grave crime whosoever, as he says, "shall dare or presume to reduce the said Indians to slavery, to sell them, to buy them, to exchange or give them, to separate them from their wives and children, to deprive them of goods and chattels, to transport or send them to other places, or in any way whatsoever to rob them of freedom and hold them in slavery; or to give counsel, help, favor, and work on any pretext of color to them that do these things, or to preach or teach that it is lawful, or to co-operate therewith in any way whatever." Accordingly, we will that the power of absolving penitents in the sacramental tribunal from these crimes shall be reserved to ordinaries of the localities.
      7. It has seemed well to us, moved by our paternal affection and following the footsteps of your predecessors, among whom we may specially mention Leo XIII, of blessed memory, to write these things to you, Venerable Brethren, on the case of the Indians. But it will be for you to strive according to your strength to give abundant satisfaction to our desires. You will assuredly be helped in this by those who bear rule in these Republics; nor will you want the work and care of the clergy, especially those devoted to the sacred missions; and, lastly, all good men will be with you, and those who can, with gifts or other offices of charity, will help a cause in which both religion and the dignity of manhood are involved. And, what is the chief thing, the grace of Almighty God will be with you, in token whereof and as a pledge of our goodwill, we most lovingly impart new Apostolic benediction to you, Venerable Brethren, and to your flocks.
      Given at Rome, at St. Peter's, on the 7th of June, 1912, in the ninth year of our Pontificate.
      PIUS X
      w2.vatican.va/content/pius-x/en/encyclicals/documents/hf_p-x_enc_07061912_lacrimabili-statu.html

  • @milan4935
    @milan4935 5 років тому +4

    You should shout out this channel more on today I found out, lots on that channel would probably sub

  • @1963Iota
    @1963Iota 5 років тому +3

    I LIKE this channel 👍🏾

  • @aliciahowell9617
    @aliciahowell9617 2 роки тому

    Loved seeing the mention of my ancestor Margaret Roper!

  • @JT-cloverbottomt
    @JT-cloverbottomt 5 років тому +2

    Simon & Shell - I would point out that he was only made a Saint in the Anglican Church in 1980, and actually one of two (? that I am aware of, you are the research genius’s) that was declared a martyr of the Reformation.

  • @damiensadventure
    @damiensadventure 5 років тому

    You should all do a guest appearance with the Inside Gaming / Funhaus crew. I dont know why but it would totes work.

  • @uptonsavoie
    @uptonsavoie 4 роки тому

    I'd love to see you do one on dear old Titus Oates.

  • @davidthompson6834
    @davidthompson6834 5 років тому +1

    Give the dude a break

  • @Saffire1990
    @Saffire1990 5 років тому

    Please Simon do a biographics video on Sir Thomas Moore 🙏

  • @laquica3323
    @laquica3323 5 років тому

    Sir Thomas More, the king of run on sentences

  • @IntrepidFraidyCat
    @IntrepidFraidyCat 5 років тому +1

    Great video! Look into Rudolf Diesel's story...his genius and mysterious death. It would make for a very interesting video. 👍❤️

  • @laura1443
    @laura1443 5 років тому +2

    Never heard of this guy; thanks for the info! 😊

  • @loupiscanis9449
    @loupiscanis9449 5 років тому

    Thank You .

  • @matthew.datcher
    @matthew.datcher 5 років тому

    3:22 It really sounds like you said treasons act of 1934. I’m glad the transcript has the correct date listed.

  • @erinrising2799
    @erinrising2799 5 років тому

    He's also a distant cousin of mine, I think the sense of humor is genetic

  • @sandrastreifel6452
    @sandrastreifel6452 4 роки тому

    “The King’s good servant, but God’s first!”

  • @Moishe555
    @Moishe555 5 років тому

    He was a man for all seasons, that's for sure!

  • @malleusmaleficarum6004
    @malleusmaleficarum6004 5 років тому

    3:24 "The treasons act of 1934"? I'm pretty sure that's wrong. If it was made into law in 1934, it definitely wouldnt have applied to Sir Thomas Moore. You sir, have made a mistake.

  • @LisaBowers
    @LisaBowers 5 років тому +4

    I wonder what sort of "promises" were made to Richard Rich for his testimony against Sir Thomas More.
    No matter what, with the Boleyn's on the panel, More's fate was sealed.

    • @uptonsavoie
      @uptonsavoie 4 роки тому

      Rich made out very well: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Rich,_1st_Baron_Rich He was unencumbered by any twinges of conscience.

  • @bobthegoat7090
    @bobthegoat7090 5 років тому

    Okay, so he said: "No temporal man may be the head of the spirituality" which I would interpret as against the pope but he wouldn't deny papal authority even if it meant death and the pope later made him a saint. This is very confusing. Is he against the pope or not?

    • @fermat2112
      @fermat2112 5 років тому

      Fake Name The most likely explanation is that Saint Thomas More considered the Pope to be Christ representative on Earth, thus maintaining the dogma that Christ is the head of the Church (and is the Church). Much as a prime minister may speak for the king, he is not the king.

  • @alexandercarder2281
    @alexandercarder2281 5 років тому

    The kings good servant but God’s first. I like that.

  • @t-seriesofficial7951
    @t-seriesofficial7951 5 років тому

    Please do one about the sumerians

  • @aleblanc3547
    @aleblanc3547 5 років тому

    He's not considered a Saint by the Catholic Church, he IS a Saint. Thanks, Bud.

    • @HighlightHistory
      @HighlightHistory  5 років тому

      He’s considered a saint by the Catholic church.

    • @rafaelwilks
      @rafaelwilks 5 років тому

      @@HighlightHistory because he was canonized by His Holiness Pope Pius XI on May 19, 1935.

  • @craigstewart1532
    @craigstewart1532 5 років тому

    How does the treasons act of 1934 affect the 16th century?

  • @Drinnan
    @Drinnan 5 років тому +3

    I Thought you said he practised self flatulation..........So he would smell his own farts?

    • @Moishe555
      @Moishe555 5 років тому +2

      he let one of those rancid lingering stays-in-the-room farts loose, sat there in his hair shirt and was inspired to write Utopia.

  • @larrytruelove7112
    @larrytruelove7112 4 роки тому

    Henry was a creep and a jerk. Fortunately, I don’t live in the England of 1535. I live in America. Yay.

  • @Tlindholttothemax
    @Tlindholttothemax 5 років тому

    "a portion of the treasons act of 1934" ? that seems a bit ahead of its time?

  • @tsartomato
    @tsartomato 5 років тому

    tegridy

  • @jswyka8
    @jswyka8 2 роки тому

    Self flatulation???

  • @paulie_mitts
    @paulie_mitts 5 років тому +1

    What does Simon do to protect his voice? Dude talks more than my wife!

  • @joannivaldi2106
    @joannivaldi2106 5 років тому

    Henry VIII was ruthless when he felt betrayed (real or not), but he was a hostage to opportunists who were hungry for power and station. I don't believe he was born evil, he was taught that he was appointed by God and no man should question his motives. He wanted a annulment of his first marriage. He truly believed the marriage was unholy and the Catholic church was run by hypocrites. He did some good things. If it weren't for him and Queen Elizabeth I, the Unites States of America would not exist. America would be Spanish or French. I also appreciate that I am able to read the Bible in English.

  • @TealCheetah
    @TealCheetah 5 років тому

    those quotes were a bit much

  • @johnspera8369
    @johnspera8369 5 років тому

    Great story guys; BUT, Simon, even as you were reading the script... 1934???!!! c'mon, man...was great anyway.

    • @HighlightHistory
      @HighlightHistory  5 років тому +1

      Just a verbal flub, no biggie. I'm sure you know what I'm talking about, or this video would have been far more significant in terms of physics.