Other than the view on exploring other planets, Jack Ma is correct on every point. You have to be intellectual and intelligent to understand his points and logic. If you have computer like binary tinkling then it will be extremely hard for you to understands his point. Elon is a very good scientist and extremely intelligent man but clearly not an intellectual thinker.
Jack ma is like your drunk uncle trying to teach you a life lesson. Elon musk is like a robot trying to imitate a human P.s. thanks for the love guys, really didn't ever imagine that I'd get to 9k likes when I wrote this 😂
Was thinking the EXACT same thing.... I can imagine him walking off the stage thinking, “ WTF just happened?” Hope he didn’t fly half way around the world, just for that event?
Ba ha ha, I’ve noticed when Elon is holding back he raises one then the other shoulder, just his chin to the side and pulls on the bottom of his coat. It’s his way of not blurting out “you don’t get it you Luddite!”
I have finished watching this video completely. (我看完這部影片了) I am a Taiwanese who cares about the global affairs. (我是一個關心全球事務的台灣人) And, sadly, most of my fellow Taiwanese don't really care about the world. (但是，很不幸地，我大部分的台灣同胞不那麼在意世界。) Hopefully Taiwan can become increasingly globally-aware and globally-competitive. (希望台灣可以越來越有全球意識與全球競爭力。) God bless Taiwan. (天佑台灣。)
I think Elon is saying AI can be dangerous to civilization if there is no love which is true but I think what jack is saying... for example when atom bomb was invented then hydrogen bomb etc etc ppl believe it will destroy the world over.. but humans did not allow it to happen it resisted.. same with AI there is potential to do harm but as humans, but he is optimistic that we will make the right choice,.. if there was a choice between war n peace human will choose peace, thus AI will be used for good. If anything humans as a species will find ways survive
That human capacity that separates Reason from Logic is ironically what Elon seems to deny exists. That emotional component of reason is the key to imagination, a quality AI can never have, but which is crucial for forecasting (or predicting the future). There lies the qualitative difference b/w the human & the AI 'mind'.
@@petrulutenco6600 True. But that's neither here nor there. All distant future states of the universe, including the place of humans relative to AI, is beyond our capacity to imagine. That's the definition of mortality. That doesn't change the fact that reason is a higher order phenomenon than logic in the ordering of consciousness (intelligence). Humans have the capacity for reason, AI doesn't.
@@AllInOne-uy9wm hhh please a typo is the problem now xD, there will be a time were AI will make crazy important decisions, and nothing will garantee that the common man will be at the winning side, cuz he doesn't own the AI, others do.
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Jack Ma is a practical guy while Elon Musk is a logical. Jack is confident and articulate in expressing his thought even though he has little idea about the topic. Meanwhile, Elon is really visionary and has in depth knowledge about the topic. So for me, the winner of this debate is Elon Musk.
5:02 Jack- 99.99 percent of human prediction are wrong? Elon- including that one? Jack- o yeah! Audience couldn't understand the Elon's roasted joke, not even Jack ma. Poor Elon had to laugh at his own joke alone.
I have seen this debate before... Both have done alot of hardwork and that pays off... The more you work hard the more lucky you get... This is how the world works.
Raghav Gupta I don’t like the tone and manner Jack is addressing god emperor MUSK 🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼 I bet he isn’t even paying attention. You can sense a jealousy and inferiority complex in his body language. ☠️
@William Leonard He's become a billionaire on his financial predictions so that he's the right to say that 99.99% of the prediction that human beings' made are wrong, otherwise everyone could be a billionaire, couldn't they? To be honest, I thought the rate of a successfully prediction should be much lower than 0.01%.
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I really don’t think it was a language barrier. Jack Ma seemed dismissive and patronizing. Elon was actually trying to talk about tangible issues and Jack seemed to be on the don’t worry be happy wagon.
Don't worry, no need to go to THE mars, all that matters if love, no worries about jobs, there will be plenty of jobs, we won't need jobs, I don't worry about what I can't solve, but let me explain that to the guy who can solve them.
Yes he just answering his own question all the time very intelligent indeed and jack ma is like Yea whatever carry on i already have my own AI Alibaba intelligence and know how to utilize AI you make it i will make sure I cash out the opportunity in best possible way
@@ciscobriano no that's not what's going on. I speak fluent Mandarin, and Jack Ma's English is extremely fluent. The problem is his content, the setting of this talk, and the awkwardness of Elon humoring him for unknown reasons (although you can make a good guess)
@Irish Kelly His companies past and present are...Paypal, Neuralink, Boring Company, SpaceX, Solar City, and Tesla...just think of how revolutionary each company is/was. He's more innovator/visionary than businessman (but thank god he's still businessman otherwise they would all go bankrupt!)
when Jack is talking Elon makes a funny face like saying he doesn't know what he's talking about. Jack tried to look at the same level of intelligence that Elon He failed but it was a good try.
Both guys are amazing in their vision look how elon musk start about AI the word I only heard like 1 or 2 years ago hopefully jack ma come back to public again and teach the world more business
Akshay Shukla I think that Jack need to improve his English level maybe bcs he is not a native speaker.. he could not understand some joke and word’s meaning Musk said (I think Elon musk his Chinese level was not good as Ma’s English ahh
Jackma philosophical theories will be right at some (time>=time("Time taken to evolve AI")) .In the coming future there will be a problem that will be unsolved by the human but solved by the AI Quantum computers,but there also be a problem solved by the human but unsolved by the AI Quantum Computers.
Jackma philosophical theories will be right at some (time>=time("Time taken to evolve AI")) .In the coming future there will be a problem that will be unsolved by the human but solved by the AI Quantum computers,but there also be a problem solved by the human but unsolved by the AI Quantum Computers.
The price of getting rich. Alibaba has made a ton of people rich. But anyway, he does want the current culture of having to work a ton to better your life, to stop. And AI is the only way that will happen. The work itself still needs to be done.
Communism cant win if there is opposition of greed and convolution for mass consumerism through liberal capitalism anywhere left in the world Lein knew this, hence the perestroika, china knows this hence the aggressive development and capitalist marketplace within the communist regieme..... Same way as US is printing money out of thin air not being backed by anything physical whilst digitising and gunning for AI, whilst largest inequality and unemployment and incarceration is getting worse, is creating SHIT jobs for people to wage slave to service the debt as inflation and costs of living keep rsing, so is China forced to compete against such evil with aggressive strides. Letting america win with their literal slavery ideologies is going to save humanity, but at what cost?
Actually both companies have very high workload, this might not be a good point here. Jack ma is definitely smart, why he chooses to behave in this way may have some other reasons.
@@ghgyuyu2962 I'd rather have intelligence and be normal than own some Chinese version of Amazon. It's bold of you to assume I (or people in general) strive to be a billionaire. I personally would rather live a quiet, nice, and low-key life. And not be humiliated on live TV. It's pathetic that you defend a dumbass online, rich or not. Hopefully one day you gain some sort of self confidence.
33:53 I really want to know the general public view on answering this question, I think when this interview came up, people at this time general think that only human can be creative, however if we look at the state of AI now, in some degree, AI have show attribute which we consider creativity (diffusion model as such). So... what do you guys answer to this question?
How is Jack Ma a legend? I never heard of him before...I know I'm ignorant about many many many things but ya never heard of him...how did he make his billions? But the WHOLE world knows about Elon and what he's done.
not even the falcon heavy could cross the intellectual distance to donate some of Elon's brain cells over to the equally empty void between Jack's ears.
@@LucasRodrigues-ls8re I literally have no idea who this Jack Ma dude is a part from the fact that he's rich and he looked like an idiot in this video. which is why it's a joke.
There's Always Another Way he’s the founder and CEO of Alibaba He wasn’t rich! He was fairly poor and rejected from KFC and McDonalds plenty of times, college drop out, and made himself an empire and now it’s the richest man in China! He’s very smart when it comes to personal life and evolution, business, and philosophy. Just not in tech. Tesla is a total failure as a company.... Elon is not nearly as good in business as Jack but his understanding of tech is far superior
They don't though. There's something called the Dunning-Kruger effect which shows that dumb people will overestimate their own intellectual abilities while smart people will often underestimate their own abilities.
Also mocked him by saying "sounds like some famous last words" like the quote "What are you gonna do, stab me?" -guy who got stabbed. Then at where Jack Ma says "it is impossible for computers to control humans" Elon let's out a loud "HA HA!"
Both of them have made some great points that I personally believe AI will benefit. So happy they did a presentation on this. I want AI to transform how we view/experience employment, accessibility, education, and quality of life as a whole. Not too concerned of entities more advanced than I. Putting these two together was a nice yin and yang effect as far as the elements of presentation goes. Exceptional work!
Jack Ma... this is painful to watch. Elon is looking embarrassed to even be on stage with him. Most of the crap Ma said makes 0 sense. I feel sorry for Elon. This is crazy.
The most interesting thing about communication is that people usually just express their own opinions, but it sounds as if they are contradicting the opinions of others
Jack ma is not a tech guy. It seems he's just reflecting traditional Chinese thoughts. I do not intend to disrespect him, but yes he is a business man not a scientist
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Elon - "AI is gonna fuck us up, hard" Weird little gray alien from Zeta Riticulie - "But me want too paateee with Ultron, me me me so loneleeee" Elon - "I'll ship you to Mars in a box, get off my planet weirdo"
Jack: I want chocolate Elon: chocolate is bad for you because of its high fat and sugar content. Its consumption has been associated with acne, obesity, high blood pressure, coronary artery disease, and diabetes. Jack: I want chocolate
@@danilorbatista Jack Ma literally made up a statistic that 99.99% of all predictions about the future are wrong. He did this, in this video, to denounce the threat of AI. Do you really need to ask which one resulted from a propaganda controled state?
Elon Musk: brings an example of chess and alpha go to illustrate how every year the computers are getting smarter. Jack Ma: I don't play chess with a computer
This is why communism is protected by a dictatorship. It couldn't compete with a level playing field of a democracy, competing with other ideas and change. Communism can only destroy freedom of choice. Communism can only enslave people to an ideology fixed in the 19th century.
I think what Jack Ma was trying to say, as shown by his example of a human racing against a car, is that the car runs on something else, and a human runs on legs. Therefore, you should not try to race against a car, as much as you shouldn't try to beat a computer at calculations. These are tools that humans have invented, such as a car, or a machine. In other words, inventing a printer doesn't mean that artists are at risk, cause that printer just "paints" so quickly and accurately, how could artists possibly compete? The problem here is that Jack compares AI to previously invented tools, not acknowledging that it operates differently.
@@johnmcsudden3176 Exactly! Human level intelligence emerged a long time ago, thousands of years ago, long before mechanical or electronic technology emerged. We are just now at the genesis of neural network technology, and it is progressing much faster than biological evolution. The only question is when will the singularity occur?
Good lessons from Jack Ma, what a Legend. Poor people cant afford highend tecnology but they can get better life if we help with advice of Jack Ma. Elon Mush focusing how to build empires and Jack Ma focusing wealth in true life we facing nowdays.
At that point I closed the browser tab, if it was a joke it was so freaking cheap. Just came back to see what people have to say about this "debate" because I dont want to wast my time looking at very poorly hosted debate.
Jack Ma is an ENFP and Elon Musk is an INTJ. Both are different people. Jack Ma is a realist and Elon Musk is an Idealist. Though realism and idealism may often clash with each other, this is what the society needs. Jack Ma believes it's not too late to save the world and we can act right now while Musk believes that we don't have much time and we need to find an alternative for survival. In all aspects, I support Jack Ma. Cause I also feel just like him. Why spend billions of dollars and wastes lots of precious years to make Mars a suitable place to live while we can save the earth? Why not spend that 1 billion USD to plant millions of trees, clean all the trash and garbages that have been dumped into the oceans and invest it on renewables sources of energy.. If humans want this earth to survive for thousands of years, we have to lower our standard of living.
Elon Musk: logic and facts
Jack Ma: Pinterest quote
To me, both of them are very high-level persons. But today I saw when you put them side by side, it shows true colors.
hahahaha
Other than the view on exploring other planets, Jack Ma is correct on every point. You have to be intellectual and intelligent to understand his points and logic. If you have computer like binary tinkling then it will be extremely hard for you to understands his point.
Elon is a very good scientist and extremely intelligent man but clearly not an intellectual thinker.
Lmfaooo
after watching this i sold alibaba stocks .
Now i know why jack ma didn't pass the kfc recruitment
Rafee for god sake dude, so hillarious :))
😆😆
Jack Ma: Chicken is just food, so we never get hungry
TRUE
Hahahahahahahaha!!!
Jac ma sounds like chat gpt having a hallucination
This is the best comedy/standup for me. I come back here every time I wanna laugh 😂❤
wait no no 😂😂😂
😂😂😂same here
HHH camon guz
Jack ma is like your drunk uncle trying to teach you a life lesson. Elon musk is like a robot trying to imitate a human
P.s. thanks for the love guys, really didn't ever imagine that I'd get to 9k likes when I wrote this 😂
on point!
Haha. I love it
total nonsense. Elon Musk is very down to earth. NeuWorld Solutions is like an unfunny guy trying to be funny but ending up being cringe. btfo
Actually Elon sounds like an alien trying to teach earthlings what they don't really know.
Hahahahaa for reals
I can almost see Elon Musk going "What am I doing here?"
Bad Host !!!
Was thinking the EXACT same thing.... I can imagine him walking off the stage thinking, “ WTF just happened?” Hope he didn’t fly half way around the world, just for that event?
Jack Ma is an asshole. He's lucky to be in China.
This is how Elon talks
So true ☝️
Surprising to see the difference in IQ in these 2 men.
IQ is not all that matter, I bet u can't beat AI in IQ, what's the point?
😂😂 ''can't beat AI in IQ'' nice one.
And level of understanding of science and the world's around
Elon musk is not a physics genius as well. He is a business conman that hires engineers to do the real work for him haha
"Fight for the life of consciousness" What a quote
Light not life
People :You need to be smart to become a billionaire.
Jack ma:Hold my brain.
Lmao it’s a joke 😂😂..
Hold my connections.
😂😂😂
Rk Mahib hahahahaha you know alibaba means in arabic😅😅😅👍👍
Rk Mahib lottery hold my odds
Rk Mahib 😂
The only correct words from Jack Ma:"I am not a Tech Guy."
cringing the whole time lol
Ba ha ha, I’ve noticed when Elon is holding back he raises one then the other shoulder, just his chin to the side and pulls on the bottom of his coat. It’s his way of not blurting out “you don’t get it you Luddite!”
28:23
Jack said,"China has 1800 new babies born every year."
What?
neither is elon.
I have finished watching this video completely.
(我看完這部影片了)
I am a Taiwanese who cares about the global affairs.
(我是一個關心全球事務的台灣人)
And, sadly, most of my fellow Taiwanese don't really care about the world.
(但是，很不幸地，我大部分的台灣同胞不那麼在意世界。)
Hopefully Taiwan can become increasingly globally-aware and globally-competitive.
(希望台灣可以越來越有全球意識與全球競爭力。)
God bless Taiwan.
(天佑台灣。)
This is like witnessing Einstein being interviewed by Beetle Juice
Lmao
🤣💯
I enjoyed every bit of discussions by these two great men.
Jack Ma: "pee is stored in the balls, and that is my view".
LLLLLLLLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOLLLLLLL!!!
Nicee
bytad that made my day!
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 winner
Legend
Well Elon has shown his class by not telling Jack Ma that he doesn’t have any idea what he is talking about.
I think Elon is saying AI can be dangerous to civilization if there is no love which is true but I think what jack is saying... for example when atom bomb was invented then hydrogen bomb etc etc ppl believe it will destroy the world over.. but humans did not allow it to happen it resisted.. same with AI there is potential to do harm but as humans, but he is optimistic that we will make the right choice,.. if there was a choice between war n peace human will choose peace, thus AI will be used for good. If anything humans as a species will find ways survive
That human capacity that separates Reason from Logic is ironically what Elon seems to deny exists. That emotional component of reason is the key to imagination, a quality AI can never have, but which is crucial for forecasting (or predicting the future). There lies the qualitative difference b/w the human & the AI 'mind'.
@@victorfolayan4729 The "emotional component of reason" is nothing compared to features of AI we cannot even imagine
@@petrulutenco6600 True. But that's neither here nor there. All distant future states of the universe, including the place of humans relative to AI, is beyond our capacity to imagine. That's the definition of mortality. That doesn't change the fact that reason is a higher order phenomenon than logic in the ordering of consciousness (intelligence). Humans have the capacity for reason, AI doesn't.
Victor Folayan It will, sooner than you can imagine
Elon is a legend. In this interview, you can see he is a very humble person
……..
So humble!!
Elon Musk is literally me when it comes to holding laugh in serious situations
Jack Ma: I'm not scared of AI
Elon: those are like Famous last words
Elon is a savage!
There's really nothing to worry about AI Elon is just acting that we're doomed lol.
@@AllInOne-uy9wm you don't have any idea I swear, IA is damn scary
@@TheTariqibnziyad you couldn't even write AI correctly now I'm the one who have no idea? Lol you've been brainwashed by Elon haha.
@@AllInOne-uy9wm hhh please a typo is the problem now xD, there will be a time were AI will make crazy important decisions, and nothing will garantee that the common man will be at the winning side, cuz he doesn't own the AI, others do.
🤣
I get the feeling that when Jack Ma refers to technology and computers, he thinks about his laptop.
lol
Jack Ma has access to more advanced technology than most if not all of Earth.
@@infinitezest3912 thanks to his employees
@@urbanmetal7802 hater, he's a boss and not plugged into the matrix as most.
There is no technology to Jack . To him it’s “tech knowledge”. While he is still learning how to steal IP, technology has already passed him by!
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Jack Ma is a practical guy while Elon Musk is a logical. Jack is confident and articulate in expressing his thought even though he has little idea about the topic. Meanwhile, Elon is really visionary and has in depth knowledge about the topic. So for me, the winner of this debate is Elon Musk.
🤓🤓🤓
When you watch this you realise the value of a good moderator.
Really good point
Same joni yep. Absolutely. Lol. It did seem like they had something to pull from in front of them at least.
Yep
This is what happens when you leave it to technology
@@bijucyborg What does that have to do with anything, and besides Robots will so every task in about a century or so better then any human ever could.
5:02
Jack- 99.99 percent of human prediction are wrong?
Elon- including that one?
Jack- o yeah!
Audience couldn't understand the Elon's roasted joke, not even Jack ma.
Poor Elon had to laugh at his own joke alone.
😆
Which one ?
Shaswat what did he mean?
He meant Jack Ma's ignorant statement, and Jack Ma even agreed on that.
0.01 that's the joke
"Never saw computer invented human" - jack ma, 2019
That makes sense, actually. People make machines. People made by God
I have seen this debate before... Both have done alot of hardwork and that pays off... The more you work hard the more lucky you get... This is how the world works.
Jack Ma has inspired me.
He has taught me that when you have money, even if you talk garbage, people will listen.
Raghav Gupta I don’t like the tone and manner Jack is addressing god emperor MUSK
🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼
I bet he isn’t even paying attention.
You can sense a jealousy and inferiority complex in his body language.
☠️
Idk just a thought, that last one.
@@gotbeef7581 What are they then?
Is this a pop quiz?
I was wondering if anyone else caught that on Elon's face. haha
I’d pay good money to know what Elon was thinking throughout this debate
Haha nice one
It’s written all over his face
Here it is for absolutely free...Elon thinking "This guy is one dumbass" also "Who the hell put this together"
isnt that quite obvious?
"WE ARE FUCKED"
This interview feels like my uncle lecturing me on lifes dos and donts....exhausting 😮💨
I pray both of them make the world much better with their ideas and,intelligence.
“Space X has area 59, 8 better than 51”. I love this man
I can't believe no one laughed.
Exacly
@@dudilp3202 lol nerds
@@ZoneZap NEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEERD!!!!!!
@@ZoneZap Better than being a simp.
Jack Ma: 99.99% of human prediction is wrong
Also Jack Ma: spends most of the debate predicting things..
@@elvarbryhni5525 yup some of his points are correct tho based on logic, not really hating the guy but sometimes you can't be great at most things.
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@William Leonard He's become a billionaire on his financial predictions so that he's the right to say that 99.99% of the prediction that human beings' made are wrong, otherwise everyone could be a billionaire, couldn't they? To be honest, I thought the rate of a successfully prediction should be much lower than 0.01%.
@@elvarbryhni5525 Damn that's actually deep
John Briggs China is a factory where produce the smart people for this world.
Jack has the philosophical intellect and Elon has the practical intellect
Come on man don't disgrace philosophy.
😂
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I really don’t think it was a language barrier. Jack Ma seemed dismissive and patronizing. Elon was actually trying to talk about tangible issues and Jack seemed to be on the don’t worry be happy wagon.
Don't worry, no need to go to THE mars, all that matters if love, no worries about jobs, there will be plenty of jobs, we won't need jobs, I don't worry about what I can't solve, but let me explain that to the guy who can solve them.
@@bellaggio1770 , LOL!
@@bellaggio1770🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 Perfect Description. “THE Mars.” 🤣
Bruh Elon was having a conversation with himself the entire time
im legit 12 introverted intuition working
@@tehflooper intj 😎
Yes he just answering his own question all the time very intelligent indeed and jack ma is like Yea whatever carry on i already have my own AI Alibaba intelligence and know how to utilize AI you make it i will make sure I cash out the opportunity in best possible way
@@dkcompilation9653 he's like yeah, true, now lets talk about something fun.
he was talking with an ai
because ai is dumb
waiting for jack ma to say "hey Elon I'm just kiddingi love Mars"😂
Three years later we are learning that our quality of life is enhanced by leaving the smart phone at home sometimes.
Now I understand why Harvard rejected Jack Ma 10 times
Thanks for 1 K likes
Help me growing my channel 4
DELARYCOM 😂😂😂😂
Underrated ass comment right here
Not many people can get into harvard anyway...
@@jeremiahwhite2624 10 times rejected 😂😂
But he still got in and became successful. What the fuck did you do with your life? Troll the internet to feel better about yourself.
Jesus that was painful to watch. Props to Elon for remaining civil in the face of such a ludicrous situation.
ludicrous + enabled.
idiot crowd can't even relate any of this shit.. LOL.. no one's laughing,
That’s what happens when communist China backs you up as a friend
James Vince cause he’s speaking about it in a different language than his native tongue. Your special 🤤
@@ciscobriano no that's not what's going on. I speak fluent Mandarin, and Jack Ma's English is extremely fluent. The problem is his content, the setting of this talk, and the awkwardness of Elon humoring him for unknown reasons (although you can make a good guess)
Imagine this two together in a research project
I would pay real mony to watch it as a movie all respect for both but it will be very funny to watch😂🤍🌹
I love Jack idea at the end, We need to love us more!
But Elron think of future like 100+ years from now.
This debate is a complete waste of time for Elon
I imagine, especially since his 'rise to fame', an ever increasing amount of his time is wasted. Also can't imagine he enjoys that.
Exactly 😂 jack ma already came from Mars
Elon is a complete waste of time.
@@ofensatul Well maybe you should start on something light and easy and work your way up.
Elon: i wanna go home and do some stuff that are going on in my head. I mean what am i doing here?
Here is the clear difference between Businessman and innovator, in other words opportunist & futuristic.
dude, you nailed the point so hard!
100 % Spot On
They couldn't be more different
@Irish Kelly His companies past and present are...Paypal, Neuralink, Boring Company, SpaceX, Solar City, and Tesla...just think of how revolutionary each company is/was. He's more innovator/visionary than businessman (but thank god he's still businessman otherwise they would all go bankrupt!)
when Jack is talking Elon makes a funny face like saying he doesn't know what he's talking about.
Jack tried to look at the same level of intelligence that Elon He failed but it was a good try.
Made in China vs Made in Japan/South Africa
Both guys are amazing in their vision look how elon musk start about AI the word I only heard like 1 or 2 years ago hopefully jack ma come back to public again and teach the world more business
Jack Ma trying too hard to be a wise philosopher in a discussion about Engineering and Technology.
Akshay Shukla Zizek has left the chat
Hahahahahaha
The most appropriate comment
Akshay Shukla I think that Jack need to improve his English level maybe bcs he is not a native speaker.. he could not understand some joke and word’s meaning Musk said (I think Elon musk his Chinese level was not good as Ma’s English ahh
@General Luise Martinbanger lol he is everywhere in the comment section with same shxxt...
Elon was doing the Try not to laugh challenge 😂
Ha Ha Ha... (Elon Musk's laugh)
lino mars wrong, it’s the try to not cringe one, and it’s as challenging as challenges go.
Try not to laugh challenge? More like try not to punch jack ma in the face challenge
Jackma philosophical theories will be right at some (time>=time("Time taken to evolve AI")) .In the coming future there will be a problem that will be unsolved by the human but solved by the AI Quantum computers,but there also be a problem solved by the human but unsolved by the AI Quantum Computers.
Jackma philosophical theories will be right at some (time>=time("Time taken to evolve AI")) .In the coming future there will be a problem that will be unsolved by the human but solved by the AI Quantum computers,but there also be a problem solved by the human but unsolved by the AI Quantum Computers.
I can already picture the distinctive mindset between them. One more futuristic and tech oriented, while the other more realist and human.
An ocean of compassion for those who didn’t understand Jack Ma's point of view... Elon Musk is definitely great but Jack Ma is a legend...
If Jack is china's answer to America's Elon, I feel a little safer and confident in America's future.. still learning Mandarin tho.
i love how Jack ma talking about more Free time for humans when his workers are working 12 hours per day
ilias xatzopoulos😂😂😂
The price of getting rich. Alibaba has made a ton of people rich.
But anyway, he does want the current culture of having to work a ton to better your life, to stop. And AI is the only way that will happen.
The work itself still needs to be done.
Communism cant win if there is opposition of greed and convolution for mass consumerism through liberal capitalism anywhere left in the world Lein knew this, hence the perestroika, china knows this hence the aggressive development and capitalist marketplace within the communist regieme..... Same way as US is printing money out of thin air not being backed by anything physical whilst digitising and gunning for AI, whilst largest inequality and unemployment and incarceration is getting worse, is creating SHIT jobs for people to wage slave to service the debt as inflation and costs of living keep rsing, so is China forced to compete against such evil with aggressive strides. Letting america win with their literal slavery ideologies is going to save humanity, but at what cost?
ilias xatzopoulos preaching is way easier than following. Jack Ma is just a preacher. My opinion of him changed after watching this interview.
Actually both companies have very high workload, this might not be a good point here. Jack ma is definitely smart, why he chooses to behave in this way may have some other reasons.
How is this guy so rich? He sounds like he would give his bank details to an indian scammer
He looks like the kind of guy that would wash his hands after showering
Dude he sounds like he would put a ruler under his pillow to see how long he slept
He's pretending to be dumb so that the Chinese government don't think he's a threat.
@@ghgyuyu2962 I'd rather have intelligence and be normal than own some Chinese version of Amazon. It's bold of you to assume I (or people in general) strive to be a billionaire. I personally would rather live a quiet, nice, and low-key life. And not be humiliated on live TV. It's pathetic that you defend a dumbass online, rich or not. Hopefully one day you gain some sort of self confidence.
Lol
33:53 I really want to know the general public view on answering this question, I think when this interview came up, people at this time general think that only human can be creative, however if we look at the state of AI now, in some degree, AI have show attribute which we consider creativity (diffusion model as such).
So... what do you guys answer to this question?
very informative and fruitful debate by two legends
How is Jack Ma a legend? I never heard of him before...I know I'm ignorant about many many many things but ya never heard of him...how did he make his billions? But the WHOLE world knows about Elon and what he's done.
Elon musk to Jack ma : dude I’m only listening to ur stupid arguments just because I want to sell Tsla in china
Chinese brain will always be primitive, compared to its Western counterpart.
haha, right, totally.
Piotr Kurczewski that’s how you go about your life?
He obviously doesn't want Tesla in China too badly. He just humiliated the richest dude in the country.
yeye! hard to listen;;; jack’s total shitly talking
there is a huge intelligence void between those two individual
not even the falcon heavy could cross the intellectual distance to donate some of Elon's brain cells over to the equally empty void between Jack's ears.
Not true! Just knowledge in different areas!
@@LucasRodrigues-ls8re I literally have no idea who this Jack Ma dude is a part from the fact that he's rich and he looked like an idiot in this video.
which is why it's a joke.
There's Always Another Way he’s the founder and CEO of Alibaba
He wasn’t rich! He was fairly poor and rejected from KFC and McDonalds plenty of times, college drop out, and made himself an empire and now it’s the richest man in China!
He’s very smart when it comes to personal life and evolution, business, and philosophy. Just not in tech. Tesla is a total failure as a company.... Elon is not nearly as good in business as Jack but his understanding of tech is far superior
@@LucasRodrigues-ls8re ok we get it you're indoctrinated
Only AI could understand what Elon is trying to explain
Yes !!
Wisdom is different ✍️
Hahahha😂 0:43 I just didn’t expect this is how these 2 billionaires started their convo in tv
Elon lowkey called Jack Ma stupid by saying the biggest mistake smart people make is thinking they are smart
jack ma is a rich idiot change my mind
They don't though. There's something called the Dunning-Kruger effect which shows that dumb people will overestimate their own intellectual abilities while smart people will often underestimate their own abilities.
Also mocked him by saying "sounds like some famous last words" like the quote "What are you gonna do, stab me?" -guy who got stabbed. Then at where Jack Ma says "it is impossible for computers to control humans" Elon let's out a loud "HA HA!"
I don’t think there’s anything low key about it sir
@@emdex618 rich people control the world, so as long as they know how to stay rich, "idiots" will be forced to serve him
Jack Ma probably set back the progress of AGI and Neuralink by atleast 46minutes
Saurav Tomar and 31 seconds
Who knows, maybe that's a good thing. 😂
*at least*
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Both of them have made some great points that I personally believe AI will benefit. So happy they did a presentation on this. I want AI to transform how we view/experience employment, accessibility, education, and quality of life as a whole. Not too concerned of entities more advanced than I. Putting these two together was a nice yin and yang effect as far as the elements of presentation goes. Exceptional work!
Fucking bot.
Both of them?
Except Jack is an idiot...
@@TiananmenSquirrelyou weren't listening then.
No this chinese man just doesn't make any good points
Jack ma :I don' t understand but look, my feet are dancing
looks like KFC dodged a bullet by not hiring this guy
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😂😂😂😂
🤣🤣🤣🤣
Bahaha true. That pr guy sure did his job.
Lol
Jack Ma... this is painful to watch. Elon is looking embarrassed to even be on stage with him. Most of the crap Ma said makes 0 sense. I feel sorry for Elon. This is crazy.
Elon realized this within probably the first 30 secs
I completely agree
He will reach people he wouldn't have otherwise. People that admire Jack just saw Jack beside Elon.
They took his compagny
Yeah, he had a great idea... doesn't make him a genius like Musk.
The most interesting thing about communication is that people usually just express their own opinions, but it sounds as if they are contradicting the opinions of others
Jack ma is not a tech guy. It seems he's just reflecting traditional Chinese thoughts. I do not intend to disrespect him, but yes he is a business man not a scientist
Jack Ma is so lucky that his employees don't have access to youtube
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hahaha
That event was in Shanghai, fyi...
America elected Trump. How smart are they?
Elon: 80% of statistics are false
Jack ma: Yes
Crowd: ....
Elon : it's a JOKE !!
@Mani Veiszadeh yes it is
SIKE THAT'S THE WRONG NUMBER
Very funny joke
There is something subtle about delivering this joke; should be "80% of statistics are *made up*... on the spot..."
@Mani Veiszadeh feel the 80 here, it's a double meaning
I like how Elon Musk came on the stage completely confused as to why he's even here lmao
I like how Elon would not sit down until Jack Did witch Is a Sign of respect and I respect that.
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Elon musk is cooling his anger by drinking water every 5 second.
😂
Hhh das like Halal vodka fe him hhhhh since he s ttl genius hhh
& also his brain cells that can’t seem to process what the richest person is saying
Na bro his laugh not anger
You are right
Jack ma speaking is like when you're trying to bullshit your way on an essay that's asking a question on a completely different topic
Elon - "AI is gonna fuck us up, hard"
Weird little gray alien from Zeta Riticulie - "But me want too paateee with Ultron, me me me so loneleeee"
Elon - "I'll ship you to Mars in a box, get off my planet weirdo"
Mehlencon exactly
Jack ma is the guy who didn't prepare notes or questions for a Socratic seminar.
HAHAHAJJAJA
It's like he has to write 2500 words but all he has is the "Alibaba Intelligence" joke for the intro paragraph
Any any clown can be a billionaire.
where’s the part where he says his favorite song atm is therapy by mike sherm😂😂
This illustrates the difference between propaganda and intellectual debate perfectly.
Jack: I want chocolate
Elon: chocolate is bad for you because of its high fat and sugar content. Its consumption has been associated with acne, obesity, high blood pressure, coronary artery disease, and diabetes.
Jack: I want chocolate
which is which?
@@danilorbatista Jack Ma literally made up a statistic that 99.99% of all predictions about the future are wrong. He did this, in this video, to denounce the threat of AI. Do you really need to ask which one resulted from a propaganda controled state?
Ugh. Well. You're ugly AND stupid. Congratulations.
Propaganda ? What u talking about?
Elon Musk: brings an example of chess and alpha go to illustrate how every year the computers are getting smarter.
Jack Ma: I don't play chess with a computer
Jack Ma was so ignorant and arrogant
This is why communism is protected by a dictatorship. It couldn't compete with a level playing field of a democracy, competing with other ideas and change. Communism can only destroy freedom of choice. Communism can only enslave people to an ideology fixed in the 19th century.
That was actually one of his better arguments
I think what Jack Ma was trying to say, as shown by his example of a human racing against a car, is that the car runs on something else, and a human runs on legs. Therefore, you should not try to race against a car, as much as you shouldn't try to beat a computer at calculations. These are tools that humans have invented, such as a car, or a machine. In other words, inventing a printer doesn't mean that artists are at risk, cause that printer just "paints" so quickly and accurately, how could artists possibly compete? The problem here is that Jack compares AI to previously invented tools, not acknowledging that it operates differently.
@@johnmcsudden3176 Exactly! Human level intelligence emerged a long time ago, thousands of years ago, long before mechanical or electronic technology emerged. We are just now at the genesis of neural network technology, and it is progressing much faster than biological evolution. The only question is when will the singularity occur?
Jack ma possesses wisdom that no one else can see. This whole I'm better than you is not necessary
Exactly what I realise,he’s just terrible in expressing his ideas,but he is a very smart man
Did you even watch the video???
Jack ma: Elon what is the greatest rule for happiness?
Elon: Never argue with stupid people!
Jack ma: I disagree
Elon: Yeah! you are right!
@Kelly Q whoosh
other way round and elon's been quite arrogant here
Right 😂😂
address jack ma is really stupid here ..
😂😂😂
¨Is the heart where the wisdom come from..¨ my brain here trying to pump blood
I agree we need to work on making the earth better for all as much as possible
Jack ma just demonstrated on a public world stage why you should not trust his opinion in any way.
lol this
Lol
Lol
So true.
This is like a salesman trying to debate AI with the company's research engineer in the kitchen during a coffee break.
exactly
Jack ma seems like an idiot compared
Lol well said. Ma feels like he have no clue what musk is talking about :P
@@ExcessumGaming Exactly. The Chinese is totally lost.
I'm a software salesman, and I even agree with this comment lol.
It seemed to me a comedy show 😂
Good lessons from Jack Ma, what a Legend. Poor people cant afford highend tecnology but they can get better life if we help with advice of Jack Ma. Elon Mush focusing how to build empires and Jack Ma focusing wealth in true life we facing nowdays.
Elon musk: talking about how jack ma is wrong
Jack ma: yes
Bruh Harambe lmao
Well, he not a tech guy. And he eat dog/cat for breakfast
Hhahahaha
Elon Musk teaches me 1 most valuable lesson: You don't need to be good in public appearance as long as you do your job well.
he is quite good at public appearance actually..
And you know what other one i learn ?
You don't have to smart to be rich lol
Calcium Automated machinery I assume you learn that not from Elon. :)
I mean, he didn't appear that well here, as it is a foreign country and it's awkward as Jack Ma is basically a brainlet
This never gets old.
@@ElonMusk-ot7oq Elon musk official ?… ‘course bro
Thank you for interesting debate🌏
This is what a conversation between AI and a human would look like in 2050.
in my view, Elin is more like the AI machine
@@zhaoeric3204 yeah because he's smart😂
😂😂😂
@@zhaoeric3204 seems like Chinese virus ( corona) hits your head hard🤣🤣🤣
Infact you guys are creator of it... Dumb fellow
In 2021 I read your name and my house disappeared
Everybody gangsta until jack ma says alibaba intelligence
That made me cringe so hard that it physically hurt me.
At that point I closed the browser tab, if it was a joke it was so freaking cheap. Just came back to see what people have to say about this "debate" because I dont want to wast my time looking at very poorly hosted debate.
Bin Laden intelligence sounds smarter
@@stevie2662 sorry I don't quite understand what you're saying?
Lmao
Jack Ma is an ENFP and Elon Musk is an INTJ. Both are different people. Jack Ma is a realist and Elon Musk is an Idealist. Though realism and idealism may often clash with each other, this is what the society needs. Jack Ma believes it's not too late to save the world and we can act right now while Musk believes that we don't have much time and we need to find an alternative for survival.
In all aspects, I support Jack Ma. Cause I also feel just like him. Why spend billions of dollars and wastes lots of precious years to make Mars a suitable place to live while we can save the earth? Why not spend that 1 billion USD to plant millions of trees, clean all the trash and garbages that have been dumped into the oceans and invest it on renewables sources of energy..
If humans want this earth to survive for thousands of years, we have to lower our standard of living.
Completely agree...
Jack Ma once took a IQ test...
The IQ test sadly retired
Elon: what my essay sounds like in my head
Jack ma: what the teacher reads
he got a piece of alibaba intelligence
"80% of the statistics are wrong"
Really? No one laughed at that?
nightexe yea that was strange shit.. this little fella so rich people too scared to even laugh lol
@@albertibrahimi6349 You, comrade, how you dare to laught glorious Mr. Ma .
Elon is awesome but he is a terrible public speaker, the timing was off on that joke.
Elon Musk is too smart, people tend to think serious anything he says. I had already believed 80% of the statics are wrong.
But what he said is a statistic so that means that what he said is probably wrong
Jack ma said right that computers are smartee than human being
If Jack Ma is trolling, i can confirm he's 100% funny
This is vague speech versus precise knowledge.
I couldn't have put it more succinctly myself.
Kinshu Tiwari Jack Ma just says nonsense ... - „it will help to understand ourself better“ 😂
Musk is kinda hard to understand too, but because he sounds like he’s struggling to dumb down the concepts for jack
Jack Ma is proof that anyone can be a billionaire.
onidtubes but Elon isn’t
Silas Fruge what? Elon musk has 21 billion u fucking idiot
Especially in china where theres a fuckton of billionaires thats secretly controlls the economy and the govt of Southeast Asian countries
Being a billionaire is the easy part. Becoming though..
@S H don't need too.
Two legends in one front. I like too much . I am also inspire both.❤
Thanks for your love care and support towards me where are you from?
Deference between democracy and dictatorship is clear
When Jack Ma starts talking you can almost see how Elon wants to jump on that 1 way shuttle to Mars lol
Underrated comment.
Haha 😕
Hahha this one caught me off guard. Nice one!
lol
ben k loaudey
Jack Ma "Ai will never control human beings"
Elon Musk "HaHa"
That about sums this whole debate up lol
Lol
Would have been hilarious if Musk answered " I already have." But I'll bet it'll just fly over the audience' heads. No offense, just different humor.