Mats Wilander vs Miloslav Mecir Hamburg 1985 HF

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  • @Logans3Run
    @Logans3Run Рік тому +21

    Even though Mecir won the Gold Medal at the Seoul '88 Olympics, I always thought that he would win 2 or 3 GS, such was his talent and craftiness 😉
    He was one of the few players who could make the game of Tennis, look 'Easy'.
    He was an interesting player to watch.
    Thanks for the upload.

    • @evenkat6780
      @evenkat6780 Рік тому +2

      He was talented, but to wing GS in 2 weeks only talent is insufficient. Mental and physical perhaps more key....u will have bad days and yet u need to win. Mats was a master in that 🙌 👏

    • @Logans3Run
      @Logans3Run Рік тому +1

      @@evenkat6780
      Hi,
      I was thinking generally across his career, not just a 2 week post Olympic, 'Moment'.

    • @andreashelling3076
      @andreashelling3076 Рік тому +1

      Wilander said that he reminds of Medvedev in his style

    • @mibaer71
      @mibaer71 10 місяців тому

      I think his service was not big enough, even weaker than Mats´ service.

    • @grammostola74
      @grammostola74 10 місяців тому +1

      ​@@mibaer71That's right, he was constantly second serving due to his bad back. It's a great pity. With a good first serve, he could have won some majors.

  • @fundhund62
    @fundhund62 Рік тому +19

    If I had to vote for the single best year in tennis history, 1985 would be a definite contender. McEnroe still near his best (at least in the first half of the year), Connors on the decline but still a regular in major semis, Leconte and Mecir the newcomers of the early season and then finally the meteoric rise of Becker and Edberg. And all the while, wonderful tennis being played throughout, full of creativity, touch and variety.

    • @JohnDoe-dp4kx
      @JohnDoe-dp4kx Рік тому +2

      I fully agree! Such a combo of style and generations...a crossroad.

    • @chrismanteris9093
      @chrismanteris9093 9 місяців тому +3

      Don’t forget Lendl

    • @user-jv9qz2bu1r
      @user-jv9qz2bu1r 8 місяців тому +2

      excellent graphite rackets in the early and mid 80s also and the fashion! FILA / TACCHINI

    • @glenngastonjonsson7954
      @glenngastonjonsson7954 2 місяці тому

      Wilander won RG beating Lendl in the final that year. But he hated playing Mecir. I guess most players must have been confused.

  • @matthewbuck5067
    @matthewbuck5067 Рік тому +15

    Mecir played with his opponents, no wonder why they nicknamed him the Cat. Such an agile mover and attacked just at the right moment. Classic player from the 80s before big power tennis came up.

  • @robertcampbell5769
    @robertcampbell5769 4 місяці тому +3

    I believe that back trouble cut his career short. He beat every top player in the 80s. Lendl, Wilander, Connors, McEnroe. He beat them all. Very gifted .

  • @janudo2247
    @janudo2247 Рік тому +5

    Nutze dieses Video mal, um dir zu danken, dass du hier historische Tennismatches einstellst. Die Spieler waren irgendwie alle, wie soll ich sagen?, charismatischer als heute!

  • @evenkat6780
    @evenkat6780 Рік тому +5

    Excellent quality and nostalgic. Mecir toys with mats here. Would be great to have 1987 QF between these 2

  • @GaetanoChianese-hr8uy
    @GaetanoChianese-hr8uy Рік тому +2

    It's a pleasure for the eyes watching your channel! Congratulations for these real pearls!

  • @antonioanto723
    @antonioanto723 Рік тому +7

    Thank you so much for this video, it is a precious, rare hidden gem: i hope you can upload few more matches from the artist genius Gattone Mecir, thank you infinitely Doctor Bopp

  • @NicoMKDC
    @NicoMKDC Рік тому +3

    Great upload thank you. Good quality picture for such an old match.

  • @armendarizosvaldo26
    @armendarizosvaldo26 9 місяців тому +3

    30:48 Piece of art.

  • @gc4624
    @gc4624 5 місяців тому +1

    Mats had zero idea where Mecir was going on any shot. Always loved Mecir.

  • @MrGroenland1
    @MrGroenland1 Рік тому +5

    Nyström,Wilander et Sundström detruits par Mecir.
    Impressionnant

  • @jordanaus75
    @jordanaus75 Рік тому +3

    Wilander looked defeated even before he hit the first point. Mecir loved the endless high bouncing topspin into his hitting zone, particularly if they landed mid-court. Wilander probably would had better luck if he sliced and aimed deeper for the corners more and forced Mecir to generate the pace.

  • @WONGLER
    @WONGLER 10 місяців тому +4

    Unglaublich wie extrem nahe man als Fan/Autogrammsammler damals noch nach dem Spiel an die Spieler rangekommen ist, heutzutage völlig undenkbar , alles war damals normaler und natürlicher , vermisse die 80er/90er

    • @kevinmirallas4356
      @kevinmirallas4356 9 місяців тому

      Ja nicht unbedingt gut damals, heutzutage wäre so ein Attentat auf Seles wie damals auch undenkbar

    • @danielhkhk7283
      @danielhkhk7283 4 місяці тому

      Ja, und keine Faust nach jedem zweiten gewonnenen Ball.

  • @TheNathanj2009
    @TheNathanj2009 Рік тому +3

    Mecir is mesmerising to watch

  • @patrickschlemmer6658
    @patrickschlemmer6658 Рік тому +2

    Thanks for the Tennisvideos do you have John Mcenroe Matches?

  • @MireilleMevrel
    @MireilleMevrel Місяць тому +1

    Si mes souvenirs sont bons Mecir la bête noire de Mats Wilander.

  • @川崎順一-i4m
    @川崎順一-i4m Рік тому +1

    ストロークの応酬の中で、お互いにゲームの作戦を考えているのが、ひしひしと感じられる試合ですね。

  • @jeromelevillain9301
    @jeromelevillain9301 Рік тому +3

    incredible you have the final of 1986 Leconte Mecir?

  • @zeddeka
    @zeddeka Рік тому +2

    Both players were only 20 years old here. Wilander had already been French and Australian Open champion, and would go on to win the French Open again in a couple of weeks after this. Despite his performance here, Mecir had a disappointing French Open in 1985 and lost to Martin Jaite in the third round.

    • @evenkat6780
      @evenkat6780 Рік тому

      While I recall mats won 1985 FO, I was not aware this was 2 weeks before that. That is mats wilander, his best preparation is for GS and that is why he is a legend. Mecir despite all his a abilities somehow could not come close to winning any GS, reached finals but thrashed by lendl on both occasions I think.

    • @SuperHammaren
      @SuperHammaren Рік тому +1

      @@evenkat6780 His best level was crazy high but his worst equally low. Wilander much more even in his game.

    • @zeddeka
      @zeddeka Рік тому +2

      @@evenkat6780 Interestingly, Lendl's original coach, Wojciech Fibak, felt that a lot of that generation of eastern european players had been psychologically damaged by Communism and found it hard to win on the big occasions. He got Lendl out to America as quickly as he could because he felt it would help him improve his mentality. Fibak may have been right - Lendl was notorious as a choker in his early days, and Navratilova, Mandlikova and Novotna were all famous for their mental ups and down. I think probably Mecir can also be put in that category.

    • @ostihpem
      @ostihpem Рік тому

      Did Fibak elaborate on how they were damaged by Communism?@@zeddeka

    • @mibaer71
      @mibaer71 10 місяців тому +1

      @@zeddekaInteresting point. That may very well be, considering the fact that Tennis was kind of unwanted sports by the Communists.

  • @fabricehaubois2442
    @fabricehaubois2442 11 місяців тому

    What wonderful talents, both of them.. not Mata’s day, and maybe a difficult match up, but …

  • @melfox215
    @melfox215 Рік тому

    It looks as if Mecir is using a wooden racquet, whereas Wilander already uses aluminium probably. Disregarding the stroke motions of these days, the performance level with those racquets is impressive.
    Just watch Nikola Aracic from intuitive tennis on youtube playing with a wooden racquet. Material can have a huge impact.

    • @mibaer71
      @mibaer71 10 місяців тому

      Wilander´s racquet is a Rossignol F200 Carbon.

    • @SuperHammaren
      @SuperHammaren Місяць тому

      Mecir used wood all his career at the end painted as graphite. He never liked graphite. Said in an interview.

  • @uRocky-B
    @uRocky-B 5 місяців тому

    Klasse auch Heribert - i love. Der Mann hatte keine Ahnung von Tennis und solche Leute gab es schon immer nur im ÖRR. Aber immer herrlich unterhaltsam durch seine ungewollte Komik 😂

  • @LuLu-nw6bi
    @LuLu-nw6bi Рік тому +1

    Mecir was sexy, and so was his game.

  • @evenkat6780
    @evenkat6780 Рік тому

    Doctor, can u send me a list of mats.wilander matches u have. Can you put 87 US Quarter with mecir, also 87 Noah wilander FO quarter and 88 FO sanchez wilander QF please.

    • @bopps-tennis-video-archive
      @bopps-tennis-video-archive  Рік тому

      Here is my current list. These are not always full matches, sometimes only a few minutes
      Mats Wilander vs Miloslav Mecir Hamburg 1985 HF
      Mats Wilander vs Jakob Hlasek - Hamburg 1985 (R32)
      Ivan Lendl vs Mats Wilander - French Open 1985 (Finale)
      Henri Leconte vs Mats Wilander - French Open 1988 Finale
      Mats Wilander vs Stefan Edberg - Australian Open 1988 HF
      Stefan Edberg vs Mats Wilander - Australian Open 1990 HF
      Mats Wilander vs Ivan Lendl - French Open 1984 HF - Ausschnitt
      Pat Cash vs Mats Wilander - Australian Open 1988 Finale
      Mats Wilander vs Boris Becker - Australian Open 1990 VF
      Mats Wilander vs Jimmy Connors - Lipton International (Key Biscayne) 1988 Finale
      Mats Wilander vs Veli Paloheimo - Australian Open 1990
      John McEnroe vs Mats Wilander - US Open 1985
      Mats Wilander vs Eliot Teltscher - World Team Cup 1983

  • @stevengujsky24
    @stevengujsky24 Рік тому

    No one has ever gotten more of their game than Wilander. Not a great serve. No big groundstroke weapons. Very solid in all aspects but not flashy in any area. Was a very good mover.

    • @capricornmagic63
      @capricornmagic63 Рік тому

      He did improve his serve towards the latter part of the decade. when he won 3 of the big 4 in 1988 his serve had become much more of a weapon by then

    • @jordanaus75
      @jordanaus75 Рік тому +2

      He was an incredible tactician with a superior tennis brain to the majority of top players, that's one thing you didn't take into account.

    • @mibaer71
      @mibaer71 10 місяців тому

      The area he was "flashy" in was the brain.

  • @franciscoservanmoreno689
    @franciscoservanmoreno689 Рік тому +1

    Sublime Mecir

  • @Michael-fy6ux
    @Michael-fy6ux 2 місяці тому

    Line judges sitting down LOL
    Never seen that before ...😂

  • @nikkapolos4896
    @nikkapolos4896 7 місяців тому

    Funny thing is Mats still won at Roland Garros that year

  • @milanzdrahal5691
    @milanzdrahal5691 4 місяці тому

    Mecir je Slovenský Švejk tenisu !!!
    Dnes je to Novák Dzokovic ♥️♥️♥️
    Asi je to osud, být v téhle disciplíně první !!!
    Dnes nějaká Bára nebo jak se jmenuje vyhrála wimbledon...

  • @janudo2247
    @janudo2247 Рік тому

    Hamburger Rothenbaum im Frühjahr 1985, typisches Hamburger "Schietwetter", bei dem man heute nicht mehr spielen würde! - Man beachte auch die Zuschauer: die Damen in Pelzmänteln(!) auf den Tribünen. Ganz großes Kino! Naja, 1985 war Tennis auch noch der sog. "Eliten-Sport"; heutzutage ist es Golf!

    • @MultiStar83
      @MultiStar83 Рік тому

      Richtig, heute würden die "Stars" bei häufig 7-8 Grad, eisigem Wind und Nieselregen wie Anfang Mai in Hamburg kaum noch spielen. Das war auch damals für viele Spieler natürlich schon ein Problem und viele Top-Sandplatzspieler kamen deshalb auch oft gar nicht nach Hamburg. Thomas Muster z. B. hat fast alles auf Sand gewonnen, aber er kam fast nie nach Hamburg und konnte dieses prestigeträchtige Turnier am Rothenbaum auch dementsprechend nie gewinnen...

  • @stephanearthaud8308
    @stephanearthaud8308 6 місяців тому

    A l'époque, on jouait aussi sur verglas. En anorak.

  • @mddistribution30
    @mddistribution30 Рік тому

    Mecir had a good record against Wilander. Beat him at Wimbledon and US Open.

  • @MrVoodemar
    @MrVoodemar Рік тому

    if possible, please upload Wilander-Connors (Key Biscayne '88)

    • @jeromelevillain9301
      @jeromelevillain9301 Рік тому

      I have this match i can send you if you wish not on UA-cam

    • @NicoMKDC
      @NicoMKDC Рік тому

      The Wilander-Noah semis was a greater match in my opinion☺️

    • @jeromelevillain9301
      @jeromelevillain9301 Рік тому

      @@NicoMKDC Yes but it wa in 84 no ?

    • @NicoMKDC
      @NicoMKDC Рік тому

      @@jeromelevillain9301 i referred to their semis in Key Biscayne 1988. Great entertaining match :)

    • @jeromelevillain9301
      @jeromelevillain9301 Рік тому

      @@NicoMKDC For me my favorite is key biscayne 87 with 76 at 5th set

  • @leliondescavernes1747
    @leliondescavernes1747 Рік тому

    ❤❤

  • @derekparise
    @derekparise 5 місяців тому +1

    Mecir playing with a wooden racquet?

  • @CiciOzkup-rg8ld
    @CiciOzkup-rg8ld 11 місяців тому

    MIRO.. THE BIG CAT!! BRAVO!

    • @peterbeno8646
      @peterbeno8646 10 місяців тому

      not Miro, but Milo, not Miroslav but Miloslav. I miss him, big lazy cat :)

  • @NisseOhlsen
    @NisseOhlsen 9 місяців тому +1

    McEnroe, Leconte, Mecir.

  • @aha3885
    @aha3885 Рік тому

    Matts Wilander at 20 years old, looking like a tired father of 5, in his mid 40's.

    • @mibaer71
      @mibaer71 10 місяців тому

      Obviously, he´s just not motivated at all.

  • @山﨑宗利
    @山﨑宗利 7 місяців тому

    Mecir is technically way more better than Wilander even Wilander is technically way more better than the most of the players in ATP tour in 80's. I know Wilander can move better in clay than Mecir, but his technique make Wilander's footwork meaningless.

  • @Michael-zw5or
    @Michael-zw5or 8 місяців тому

    le tennis à papa...

  • @martinsorek3237
    @martinsorek3237 Рік тому

    To byl splachovák.😂

  • @a66789
    @a66789 6 місяців тому

    =

  • @frankzito8653
    @frankzito8653 Рік тому

    Mats' forehand has nothing on it. It's literally a push. Mecir was able to attack it pretty easily.

  • @camithov
    @camithov 8 місяців тому

    Mats Wilander played horrible the worst number 1 I ever saw in the tennis.

  • @gabrielcanada7145
    @gabrielcanada7145 Рік тому +1

    que clase Miroslav Mecir....