AoE2- Zero to Hero: Micromanagement Tips

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  • @codyrogers108
    @codyrogers108 10 років тому +3

    So happy someone has finally made a micromanagement video, great work Zero, love your videos!

  • @KadlecSvk
    @KadlecSvk 10 років тому +62

    zero is really showing off in those lag free scenarios :D

    • @ZeroEmpires
      @ZeroEmpires  10 років тому +27

      KadlecSvk It is certainly less laggy, but I would recommend anyone to practice micro in these scenarios. When playing online you get a good feel for the lag in any given game and then can adjust as needed. Perhaps I should make a single player micro scenario for people to download and practice with.

    • @KadlecSvk
      @KadlecSvk 10 років тому +1

      ZeroEmpires - Age of Empires 2 nice idea :) if i play single player, i have the feeling the units act actually BEFORE i task them to do something

    • @Quarker
      @Quarker 9 років тому

      +ZeroEmpires - Age of Empires 2 That would be fantastic, have you made this yet?

    • @raygilbers8274
      @raygilbers8274 9 років тому +2

      +ZeroEmpires - Age of Empires 2 Where could I download scenarios? I really have interest in them would be a great exercise :)

    • @dontpanic15
      @dontpanic15 5 років тому

      @@ZeroEmpires Please share training scenarios im interested in honing my micro.

  • @Quarker
    @Quarker 9 років тому +26

    The bait trick by moving around a weakened unit is genius. In most online noob matches, the units aren't focus-firing and they'll chase after a weakened unit by default. Also, 'gr8 b8 m8 I r8 8/8' hahaha

  • @antthegord9411
    @antthegord9411 10 років тому

    It's good to see you're still making these! :D (I don't actually play AoE2 MP but these tips help for SP and I just love learning tips/tricks about this game)

  • @RadioBowsa
    @RadioBowsa 10 років тому +11

    Nice video. Are you planning a second micro video? If you do then you could consider talking about performing a bore steal, patrolling melee units into enemy, sticking ranged units into a corner, using patrol to stack ranged units on top of one another, using attack ground to catch archers that are going to split, and cliff bonus.

    • @elpak
      @elpak 10 років тому +3

      Many of those are actually things that I don´t know about, and I would be very interested!

  • @MrOoRiChArDoO
    @MrOoRiChArDoO 10 років тому +2

    3:49 Rams in front of an archer unit is a pretty common and decent combination.

  • @Abhishek08_
    @Abhishek08_ 10 років тому

    Had been waiting for this series to resume for a looong tym.. Great tips here. Zero is Hero again ;)

  • @tonybowen455
    @tonybowen455 10 років тому +1

    For archers+skirm against archers+skirms, if you have the time and micro ability to do it, it's the most effective to have skirms hitting skirms and archers hitting archers. I rarely am capable of doing this in my games, so I just work on having skirms in front like in the video.

  • @thijsyo
    @thijsyo 10 років тому +98

    gr8 b8 m8 i r8 8/8 no h8 just apprecia8 it

  • @mintoo2cool
    @mintoo2cool 10 років тому +1

    One of my all time favourite unit combo is chu-ko-nu + siege ram + halb ... this also works great with plumed archer + siege ram + halb ...
    Another good one from when i used to play deathmatch was hand cannon + bombard cannon combo ... this is still a heavily used in deathmatch i believe.. i think this is really applicable in deathmatch because those two units are so costly and you can pump those out with ease and sustain production in dealthmatch.
    And my personal chose of unit combo is ... cataphract + halb + skirm + a couple of trebs (in case you run into bombard towers and castles) combo ... byz have so cheap trash that it's worthwhile to amass them ... only costly investment here are cataphracts, but their speed of movement and attack and ridiculously strong attack bonus and trample damage makes it totally worth the money ... add in a couple of monks and you can make your units last longer because byz monks heal unit at 1.5x rate...this combo can counter any unit in the game ... even a horde of elephants... this is probably why byz are known as a counter civ.

  • @aaaaaaaaaaaaahaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
    @aaaaaaaaaaaaahaaaaaaaaaaaaaa 8 років тому +10

    fuck, i need these tips just to beat the AI sometimes. This game definitely has a high skill-ceiling

  • @holobolo1661
    @holobolo1661 5 років тому +3

    4:02 towards the eNd

  • @Anubiss001
    @Anubiss001 10 років тому +6

    I often see that high rated players keep pressing the agressive stance or the line formation button repeatedly while microing. What is the purpose of this?

  • @vinigarcia
    @vinigarcia 10 років тому

    Awesome video, Zero! GJ!

  • @roym2185
    @roym2185 4 роки тому

    Great idea for a tutorial. If you ever do this with DE now, you may wanna call it Zero to Hera :D

  • @tuanoful
    @tuanoful 7 років тому +1

    jesus, I really suck at this game. All these videos are amazingh

  • @Richard-fx6im
    @Richard-fx6im 10 років тому +8

    I've got a question on micro that I believe I speak for many people when I say this will be an important question:
    What about lag?

  • @lobo403
    @lobo403 10 років тому

    Really nice tutorial, keep them coming! :)

  • @gunnarlebovitz1409
    @gunnarlebovitz1409 10 років тому

    Love the guide! Keep IT up!

  • @18T220
    @18T220 10 років тому +1

    Awsome videos Zero.

  • @coronagalvez19
    @coronagalvez19 10 років тому +7

    when everybody becomes a hero, no one is

    • @joshstrunk5963
      @joshstrunk5963 9 років тому +3

      +coronagalvez19 dont worry i'll be a zero forever ;)

  • @sprEEEzy
    @sprEEEzy 5 років тому

    One quick tip for microing anything is having health bars on at least for damaged units.

    • @ADCFproductions
      @ADCFproductions 4 роки тому

      wat, Spreeezy here??? WORLDS ARE COLLIDING!!!

    • @Gnurklesquimp
      @Gnurklesquimp 2 роки тому

      Player-colored hp bars hit the spot, even aesthetically

  • @TaterSackJack1776
    @TaterSackJack1776 10 років тому

    An effective way to micro large groups of paladins against infantry, assuming that you have the open space free of buildings or other obstructions, is to bait the enemy in line formation and then switch to the staggered formation. Next, turn around and ride back over the pursuing enemy units, then press the stop hotkey when your units have effectively surrounded the enemy. Your paladins will then be able to attack the enemy 3 or 4 to 1, reducing your casualties and greatly increasing your damage dealt.
    Also works nicely with the box formation, depending on the enemy unit being snared.

  • @emedi.09
    @emedi.09 7 років тому +11

    this is the reason I suck at this game. its a lot of fun but I cannot multitask economy and military at the same time. even the AI advances through ages faster than me, I dont know how they do it

    • @artham94
      @artham94 6 років тому +4

      Got to reply to this very late, but age advances are nothing to really worry about. I've seen AI advance to Imperial in 15 minutes, but they do jack s**t and I still win even if my Imperial advance time is 40 mins. Just practice and don't be afraid to lose.

  • @lllllllllllllpplp
    @lllllllllllllpplp 10 років тому +2

    first video probably ever created on micro tips

  • @JK-bw8of
    @JK-bw8of 10 років тому +1

    Zero you are my hero!

  • @Laroen
    @Laroen 10 років тому

    3:50 rams and archers are the best

  • @schmeed0000
    @schmeed0000 10 років тому

    you're the last person I'd expect to give micro tips

  • @bluebladegermany
    @bluebladegermany 8 років тому +1

    Thank you

  • @jesseoleary
    @jesseoleary 10 років тому

    great video mate! thanks :)

  • @storkaoc6517
    @storkaoc6517 7 років тому

    Great vid!

  • @Xermephos
    @Xermephos 9 років тому +11

    gr8 b8 m8, i r8 8/8

  • @iviktorius9408
    @iviktorius9408 10 років тому

    Archers and rams. Most notable the plumes with siege ram combination.

  • @yrret1996
    @yrret1996 7 років тому

    Wait you were playing against castor in the militia example?

  • @brianronan1905
    @brianronan1905 7 років тому

    Great video Zak. Was this scripted? I like when casters put some time into some thought out explanations.

  • @Laroen
    @Laroen 10 років тому +1

    How can you set more then one spot for the scout (and sheep) the go for (for easier scouting)?

    • @davidbjork8828
      @davidbjork8828 10 років тому +7

      shift and rightclick on the map, and then rightclick

  • @ompskatelitty5356
    @ompskatelitty5356 5 років тому +1

    5:08 i am sorry to disappoint but there are only 7 knights

  • @kiriseraph9674
    @kiriseraph9674 6 років тому

    So I'm wondering, to easy pressure on a new players who is learning the ropes, what strategies are the least micro intensive? I would think trash units whose loss is no huge deal, and especially units with high defenses who can be ignored for several seconds while you deal with economy stuff, right?

  • @ThePlagueCreator
    @ThePlagueCreator 9 років тому

    To the part at 3:50 calvary would be good!

  • @lorenzobianchi6814
    @lorenzobianchi6814 5 років тому

    thanks for the videos, i really appreciate them! sorry for the noob questions but how to say to a unit (e.g. a sheep) the path it has to walk through? it is really useful for map exploring and I can't figure out how to do it

    • @9aAditya0
      @9aAditya0 5 років тому

      Use shift and right clicks

  • @sclarke6969
    @sclarke6969 10 років тому +1

    the rams..oh god the rams

  • @rogueshadoww
    @rogueshadoww 4 роки тому

    Me and my friend do a combo of Persian war elephants with Spanish conquistadors and bombardiers

  • @XyntXII
    @XyntXII 10 років тому +2

    patroll?
    okay, you can consider that macro instead of micro, but it really should not be ignored!

  • @houdic2
    @houdic2 10 років тому

    How come the trees are so small?

  • @capitanjack2320
    @capitanjack2320 10 років тому

    Really helpfull !!!! :)

  • @rambopang7736
    @rambopang7736 10 років тому

    I have a problem with latency.
    I am playing with my friends while we both in the same country and different states with the car travel to reach each other at 1 to 2 hours distant.
    We tried 2 ways, origin steam connected game, and hamachi... both methods still lagging while we see each other as green ping...
    Any idea how to fix it?

  • @joakobolso18
    @joakobolso18 8 років тому

    The machine does it, if u set hard or max

  • @shyguy778
    @shyguy778 9 років тому

    What's the optimum amount of units to put on one enemy?

    • @fongdimbulator
      @fongdimbulator 9 років тому +2

      shyguy778 9000.

    • @shyguy778
      @shyguy778 9 років тому +4

      fongfongy Comon, you know what I mean, you can have a million units targeting one enmeny (if the game allowed) but because melee fighters have to be adjacent to attack when you focus fire, it creates a kind of diminishing returns effect.
      After a little while, the pathfinding in this game means that your melee units start walking past targets that would be much better for them, only for the original enemy to die anyway before your units arrive.
      In the meantime, enemies adjacent to whichever units are in bad positions get free hits on them, and it's really difficult to tell everyone to defend against the enemies that are weakest in front of them quickly enough to be efficient because of the mess created by the lack of space (you can barely tell whats going on lol)
      I guess what I'm asking is how do you micro EFFICIENTLY.

    • @toastybatch565
      @toastybatch565 9 років тому

      shyguy778 YES

    • @Amin-lo3fu
      @Amin-lo3fu 8 років тому

      3.3

    • @fongdimbulator
      @fongdimbulator 8 років тому

      You have probably seen his later video regarding this topic but if not: Use Attack>Move or Patrol to send your groups of units towards enemies. They will automatically engage with whichever units are nearest - distributing damage more evenly.
      Alternatively, boom, set a gather point where the enemy is and send over 9000 trash units into the meat grinder over the next few hours.

  • @BlackwolfAnthony
    @BlackwolfAnthony 8 років тому

    Why don't you make a tutorial for this, too?

  • @InquilineKea
    @InquilineKea 4 роки тому

    LOL can you just use patrol to micro?

  • @mashoodp4
    @mashoodp4 9 років тому

    Conquistadors with Missionary in box formation

  • @Qfungi
    @Qfungi 4 роки тому

    Good job at Redbull Wololo

  • @Fiyaaaahh
    @Fiyaaaahh 10 років тому

    If you dodge a mangonel shot it can still hit different units than it was originally aiming for. Does this also apply to arrow fire? And how does this work for the 5-arrows-at-once fire from the chinese? Finally; I often see players build their mining camp directly adjacent to gold/stone instead of leaving one tile in between which (imo) would allow for much better saturation/efficiency. Why do they do this?

    • @XyntXII
      @XyntXII 10 років тому

      cho ku nu: the first arrow does the dmg, that the cho ku nu has, the other 2 or 4 do 1 dmg or 3 dmg, if rocketry is researched.
      this has a huge effect on anything with huge pierce armor as rams, since u do always a minimum of 1 dmg so with cho ku nu you do 5 true dmg wile only 1 with arbalests (though cho ku nu fire less rapidely)
      if you do orbwalk with cho ku nu you can stop further firing, so that they only fire the first or the first 2 arrows.
      I really like this Unit, since it is so incredibly unique and also powerfull, but they are slow, shortranged and as mentioned not as good with orbwalking.
      resource camps: if your villagers have no need to walk from the resource to the camp you are more effective. only if you have a lot off vills on the resource that gets bad, so placing the mining camp on your gold has to be done carefully since if you are then left with only few accessable tiles it is very easily oversaturated.
      with wood placing it directly to it had the additional bonus, that the distance between the woodline and the camp will be smaller after you chopped a few trees and you do not have to replace it as fast.
      arrows: i don't know. would like to hear the answer, if anyone knows.

    • @MinecraftPlanetChan
      @MinecraftPlanetChan 10 років тому

      Yes, it does in fact work like that with arrows. Just like everything else (trebs, mangonels, etc.) arrows are separate things that must hit the target to do damage, which is why you can dodge arrows and mangonel shots, etc., which should mean if mangonels hit a different target and do damage, so must arrows. Also I noticed this when my castle was firing upon a group of enemies running by and I hadn't had ballistics researched, the volley of arrows killed the guys behind the original target.

    • @imadecoy.
      @imadecoy. 10 років тому

      XyntXII Hobbyloosii Chu Ko Nu fire 3 shots per volley, not 5.

    • @MinecraftPlanetChan
      @MinecraftPlanetChan 10 років тому

      something1random23 3 regular, 5 elite

    • @imadecoy.
      @imadecoy. 10 років тому

      The Amazing Ace Meracruzer Oh, okay.

  • @jamesstevenson3116
    @jamesstevenson3116 7 років тому

    huscarls always in to take arrow fire

  • @SSJ5VegetaV4
    @SSJ5VegetaV4 10 років тому +46

    * Completely useless on Steam due to lag.

    • @ZeroEmpires
      @ZeroEmpires  10 років тому +9

      The drush example at the end was actually on multiplayer AoEHD :P

    • @SSJ5VegetaV4
      @SSJ5VegetaV4 10 років тому +17

      ZeroEmpires - Age of Empires 2 Sure, is possible 1v1 if both players live in the same region. Try it in a 4v4, or 2v2 even, and watch your militia land 3 hits before reacting. Although drush isn't the worst. Archer micro is definitely unmanageable in AoEHD!

    • @lordilluminati5836
      @lordilluminati5836 9 років тому +1

      SSJ5VegetaV4 I play in lan, so this is very usefull

    • @cristofererlandsson6760
      @cristofererlandsson6760 9 років тому +1

      +SSJ5VegetaV4 Why even play on steam when we got Voobly? Cant understand it tbh..

    • @elduriangavriel2130
      @elduriangavriel2130 6 років тому +2

      I play on Steam regularly and lag is rarely a major issue. Maybe it's because your post is 3 years old and there have been improvements since it was made. Maybe it's because I filter matches to show "Regional" matches.
      Either way, these tips are very usable for some Steam players in 2018

  • @schmeed0000
    @schmeed0000 10 років тому

    5:08

  • @varunkaushik2732
    @varunkaushik2732 6 років тому

    Rams and archers

  • @ondrej_jaluvka
    @ondrej_jaluvka 7 років тому

    Haha You play at the last part against Charles Martel :-D Is it before or after TheViper kills him :-D

  • @derin111
    @derin111 3 роки тому

    This is great....but I will never attain this level of skill. 😔

  • @andrewphelps1462
    @andrewphelps1462 4 роки тому

    Basically, micromanagement works because game's AI is crap (like units chasing around the weakest).

  • @bruni15
    @bruni15 8 років тому

    Ram + Archer~~~

  • @frantisekfojt8688
    @frantisekfojt8688 6 років тому

    I know I'm like 5 years too late but the archers dodging are basically fuq by default. Haha, get it .. Nevermind

  • @CasterH
    @CasterH 9 років тому

    I use Micro in AI matches...

  • @hamptom11
    @hamptom11 9 років тому +5

    micromanagement is baaaaaaddd.

  • @HadouGun
    @HadouGun 7 років тому

    FQ!!! M8

  • @lordilluminati5836
    @lordilluminati5836 9 років тому +5

    you said nienty degrees instead of 180

    • @learneverydaybyzk433
      @learneverydaybyzk433 9 років тому +18

      +patricio torre He said.. 90 degree from the direction of Enemy Arrow

  • @DjZorlag
    @DjZorlag 6 років тому

    Stop microing!