James O'Brien reacts as Huw Edwards is not sent to jail over indecent images of children | LBC
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- Опубліковано 17 вер 2024
- James O'Brien reacts as Huw Edwards is spared jail time after paying a paedophile up to £1,500 for child abuse images.
Edwards, 63, was given six months suspended for two years, after admitting three charges of "making" indecent photographs after being sent the images by convicted paedophile Alex Williams over WhatsApp.
Edwards will also have to attend 25 sessions of a sex offender programme and will be required to sign the sex offenders' register for seven years. He will also have to pay £3,128 in costs and a victim surcharge.
'The idea that the images are detached from abuse I reject violently, with every fiber of my being', says James, 'it creates the market where these subhumans feed'.
James also asserts that 'there was bno special treatment here', given Huw Edwards status as a former BBC News presenter, saying that instead 'it's a conversation about a facet of our criminal justice system'.
However, to conclude, James wants to know: 'Why don't we send these people to prison?'
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I am 28 and I was abused as a kid. The word "sickening" gets thrown around a lot these days, but the refusal to prosecute these people is nothing short of absolutely revolting. They steal people's souls and get away with it.
exactly the victims are the ones that get the life sentence it turns my stomach that the courts let these sick things on the streets cant call them men just sick
He didn't get away with it though
@Tony-vf9zu he wasn't jailed as he should have been. Say "hurty words" on the Internet and you get banged up super fast.
He's not the first. He won't certainly be the last!
I’m standing with you on this
Child abuse should be treated as both crime against humanity and against the nation.
Regardless of the perpetrators skin color
Why
So says the man in the pub.
It is both.
Should be a capital punishment where it’s a black and white case.
@@dcarter6738imagine if Huw was not white - the punishment is worse and the media calls for capital punishment - only due to the race.
I hate it when they play the mental health card too. An insult to people who go through genuinely traumatic experiences and challenges but never stoop so sickenly low and still take responsibility for their actions.
💯 absolutely
Very well said. Hope you’re doing well mate 👊
I hear you...but...having those thoughts about children is unnatural and twisted. There's definitely a mental aspect to it. Doesn't mean there shouldn't be heavy consequences.
But mental health is a significant factor. Why should mental illness be disregarded?
It's the worst excuse to hear from abusive men and degrades all their victims who have been groomed and abused by them. Predators.
97% are never convicted. When they are, avoiding jail is common. When I came forward against my uncle I was released with a warning after 2 hours of interrogation. 2 cousins were shamed into leaving. When another was finally listened to, my uncle got 8 months. That's it. Paedophiles rarely do time and when they do, they do less time than a non-violent drug user.
No one gose to jail for recreational drug use. This isnt the states.
My schoolfriend was murdered by someone who had just served 6 months for SA against an 11 year old. Reading up recently, they now think he was a serial killer who wasn't caught.
@@nifralo2752 Being high on drugs isn't illegal. possession and dealing are. problem is anyone who uses a lot risks being charged with intent to supply which often end with a custodial sentence. Many states have far more progressive laws than the UK. Cannabis is widely legal and psilocybin is starting to get decriminalised.
Child abuse sentences have always been a joke, got nothing to do with prison places. Makes you wonder, who set the sentencing guidelines and why haven't they been reviewed
Perhaps everyone should email Lord Chief Justice office now to request that sentence & judge to be reviewed as that judge considered the charge not serious enough to be sent to a higher court
@MarjorieDuncan-lk7lz This isn't a one off, Google Sean Hogg Glasgow
@@MarjorieDuncan-lk7lz Not true. The Court had sufficient sentencing powers. There were four charges - this would mean a maximum of 1 year in prison. The Sentencing Guidelines say the starting point for Cat A images is 1 Year and the offence range 26 week to 3 years. There was plenty of scope for sentencing in the Mags before. aDJ.
Starmer had a long career in law before going into politics, so he won't criticise it.
@MarjorieDuncan-lk7lz BTW seriousness only plays a part in whether there is sufficient sentencing powers and here there were sufficient sentencing powers.
I was abused as a child- I'm now 41 and have 4 children of my own, I have dealt with insomnia, low self esteem, anxiety, and so much more most of my life-it has affected the way I parent my children-I am over protective to the point sometimes I think I'm damaging their independent growth. How is it fair that these monsters get away with killing someone's soul, ruining their entire life
I understand I know how you feel I’m 60 now and still suffer from my abuse as a child.
Completely understand as a target of it myself. We homeschool, won't use childcare, don't trust anyone.
I'm still medicated 40 years later.
But Edwards didn't take the pictures himself did he? Surely the kind of trauma you refer to was created by the photographer in the first place right?
@@ibbydread6092 someone who procures the pictures are as bad as the physical abusers because they induce this sharing of content and normalise it amongst their own community. I won't dare you to do this, but if you have ever seen C.P. (which I unfortunately did as an I.T. engineer) then you will know it breaks you. Some things cannot be unseen. In every picture is a victim. In every video is a victim. And anyone who necessitates the needs for distribution are as much the abusers as those taking the pictures.
I'm in my 60s. I'v never married, never trusted any man, never trusted any cop.
What happened to me was more than 50 yrs ago. My step-father, a cop, crossed that line starting when I was 7. No one believed me. One day when I was 11, I had all I could take. I didn't care if my step-father actually followed thru with what he said if I told. I had all I could take. With the help of my grandmother, who wouldn't let the 'subject' drop. I got out of the house, he lost his job as a cop, and lived out the rest of his life under a bridge as someone that was homeless.
The other cops turned an 11 yr old into the criminal, because I didn't defend the brotherhood of blue first. I had to move 500 miles away, to my grandmothers. Just to escape what those cops did to me daily. Just walking to school. They acted as if I was the biggest criminal to ever walk the planet.
Believe me, the insomnia, low self esteem, extreme anxiety, and for me, lack of trust in men in general, cops especially. That's what we, who survived that crime, have to deal with. And for me, he got off. Living under a bridge for the next 10 thousand life times, will never be enough for what. That man. What was done to me.
Most powerful NSPCC ad i ever seen:
Dont tell your mummy about this
If that makes you feel uncomfortable imagine how she feels
She actually said, "Do all little girls do this with their daddy?" Which is *way* worse than what you wrote.
@@chad0x Yeh, but that wasnt an advert by NSPCC was it? What I said was
This is exactly what my stepdad said to me. And, "it would hurt your mum so much". I was 11 years old and my mum was still in hospital following my brother's birth. I didn't say anything until 16. I am now 66 years old and she has never believed me...I was 'mistaken'.😢
@@notyourordinarygranit’s so tragic already but then even worse when the kids aren’t believed when they find the bravery to speak up :(
@@notyourordinarygran I am so sorry. I hope you know it wasn't your fault despite your mother's psychological need to dismiss the very possibility of it being true.
this country is an embarrassment.
Why?
@@scottreid1677 er because it’s allowing a famous dude who’s guilty of these awful crimes to walk, basically free. Don’t agree?
@@ScottsBigCountry Do not feed the monosyllabic troll
@@ScottsBigCountry So that makes the country an embarrassment 😅😅😅
@@scottreid1677 It's disgusting.
Struggling to understand why Huw's skin colour, immigration status or religion hasn't been part of the discourse so far.
Btw James the answer to your question is because it is tolerated and widespread. Simple as that. You are more likely to go to jail for mortgage fraud.
because he is using the sexuality card
Yep I agree if it was black man they would be playing the race card for the crime even when guilty @@IgweVII
Basically because there's not any need to. He was already held in quite high esteem by many because of his role as a newsreader, and the BBC's Royal Correspondent... Most people are already sufficiently shocked and disgusted at his behaviour...
@@Brian-om2hh right so those factors only apply when they are people not held in high esteem?
Anyone caught with images of child abuse should be jailed
17 yr olds are inocent of course satbin lil kids in Southport
For me , abusing a child is up there with the worst of crimes.
Suspended sentence is an awful outcome for the victims 😢
When the right wing shouts about a two-tier justice system, this is where it really applies: those who have and those who do not. Rich vs. poor.
If the right wing really cared, they would have pressured their hero Little Tommy Ten Names to protest at Edwards trial. But he is still sunning himself.
@@adamlee3772i was thinking the same, where are the riots now
@ABUoSUFYAN outside the BBC offices? Maybe you have information the far right does not. Were these racially motivated atrocities like Southport?
None of those rioting gave en effing toss about kids. None of them. Not even one
@@adamlee3772He once got arrested for reporting about a grooming gang trial outside of the court. Protesting wouldn't have been a smart move. The establishment hates him as it is 😂
Sentencing guidelines must be changed
We knew it was going to be a slap on the wrist as it was always dealt with a magistrates court
Trouble is we don't have enough room in the prisons.
Accordingly...bbc celebrities vs the rest
That would upset Pakistanis
@@krob2327and white males in their 20s, the most prolific groomers. But you won't mention that will you.
All victims deserve justice, not just the victims of perpetrators you don't like.
James you are very brave to highlight the baseness of what is going on in our society. Why do privileged people get off with a suspended sentence? The damaged children have a life time sentence to live with the nightmare. James I don't know why we don't send these people to jail . I love you for your bravery and truth.
I also often wonder is it also because the children being abused are sometimes the opposite end of the spectrum, low income , sparse furniture in house , struggling to keep up in school ,that they’re sadly judge as oh well they won’t amount to anything so it don’t matter as much 😢
I used to work in public protection. There are thousands of offenders who view such images in much greater number (and more of the most serious images) than Edwards. The majority receive community and/or suspended sentences. Edwards' sentence was unaffected by privilege and was consistent with other sentences. The real question is whether society finds the sentencing guidelines are acceptable and, if not, how many more prisons we need.
Sicophant.
Brave? What doesn’t he confront his mate Keir starmer for letting Jimmy Saville off
@@stevelondonse23 Makes you really want to throw up
Edwards, a deeply committed Christian will be seeking penance and forgiveness, as have many priests and clergy before him.
A great advertisement for that dying religion, then.
He is not a true christian 😂
just like rochdale muslim gangs yeah
@@chrimbus71
Give it a rest. Did any of them claim to be religious? No.
You shouting about the white peados then?@@chrimbus71
This case is proof that if you have a high enough profile and money in the bank that you can get away with literally anything. He should be in jail. It’s disgusting that he’s got away with committing these kinds of crimes. Our “justice” system is broken!
No it's not. That's the whole point. He wasn't treated differently, these beasts don't get sent to jail.
and white.
@@LienLeonabsolutely spot on there pal happening all over the country day in day out
Unfortunately, this is not true, many people who commit these crimes get away with our jail time, regardless of their status. It's horrific to me, but true.
You clearly didn’t listen to this
Child abuse is violence. Paying for images of children being abused is directly causing violent harm to those children. The fact people get away with this with such light sentences (if any) is abhorrent and shows how rotten our justice system is to not treat crimes of this nature more seriously.
Why do rich people not get the same sentence as the poor person?
Why are the rich allowed to always get away with it.
that's precisely what *isn't* happening. Get your listening sorted out.
U answered ur own question, simply coz they r rich
Probably better legal representation, to put forward a full defence and mitigation.
Then also apologies more likely to be accepted at face value rather than from someone as alien as a working class person.
I feel so sorry for Police officers, usually lady officers, who have to trawl through the most lurid and grotesque child abuse imagery. Just trying to acquire evidence on these decreped men before bringing them before the courts.
That takes dedication and unparalleled motivation.
Lady officers? Do you mean policewomen? Since the force is about 80+ male, I'm pretty sure the majority of these cases are investigated by men. Do you think police MEN, who have families, don't get affected having to sort through these images?
Most of the police are abusing their power towards vulnerable people . They are not innocent either.
I'd imagine a lot of them need a lot of counselling after the vile things they see. I certainly wouldn't be able to do that job. It must affect them for the rest of their lives.
@@faithpearlgenied-a5517 I has to. Any ordinary person cannot comprehend for anymore than 3 seconds the type of things they may see and remember it's children we are talking about. The most precious and innocent of human beings. If ever there was a need for (I don't know) robots or artificial intelligence devices to do a job. Then it is this.
Someone has to do it. What’s worse is the children going through it of course. Not doing it would be like turning a blind eye. I was a firefighter and seen some awful things but I was helping people and wanted to.
with what is happening in France, it should tell us that truth is far sinister and yet he got away with it.
Thanks so much, James, for addressing this story in such a frank and responsible, but powerful manner.
Didn't the BBC suspended one of their presenter who was sending flirty texts on the spot although unwanted still two adults. This was an adult with children the BBC and their - moral compass when it come to children and peodophiles behaviour, is shocking to me. And the fact they hate harrys wife over peodophiles not showing Great Britian around the globe in a moral light, but tell other country about human trafficking.
😂😂😂😂😂😂 ummm ok
what sort of word salad is this, doesn't make any sense
Disclaimer: I'm a lawyer before anybody starts to wonder how I know so much about this.
Currently, being in possession of CP images often carries a sentence of 6 months or less imprisonment, depending on the severity. The courts normally won't send a non violent offender to prison if the sentence is that short because it doesn't give the system time to work with them. 6 months will become 3, and it will take weeks to get them into a program.
The most likely, and most common outcome, will be that Edwards will be on the SOR for a minimum of two years, have to attend monthly sessions with a case worker, and be subject to random home inspections of his internet enabled devices for the entire time he is subject to the order. Any breach of his conditions will see him back in court, but not neccessarily in prison.
Further to that, he won't be allowed to make contact with or be near children under the age of 17 unless it's unavoidable in the course of everyday life. That includes family members. He will have to inform the police if he intends to go abroad or spend more than 7 days away from his home address. The police will perform safety checks on his destination, and decide if it's safe for him to be there. If not, he can't go. If his home address is too near anybody considered vulnerable, including neighbours and family members, he will have to leave. Being a convicted SO means that he will automatically be banned from travelling to many countries, including Australia and the USA.
He will have to inform the police if he changes bank cards or accounts, gets a new passport or changes address. He will have to sign the SOR annually, or more frequently, at a designated police station until his supervision order ends. All of this has to be done in person. He cannot do it by mail, phone, or through a representative.
Most people will agree that his sentence appears too lenient, but it is not over just because he didn't get time. As a recognisable public figure, it will be difficult for him to have any quality of life ever again. What he has done has ruined his life, his career, his relationships and friendships. A few months in jail is nothing compared to what he will have to endure on the outside.
Thanks for explaining, however the lunatics on here will challenge you, guaranteed 😂
Hoping he gets justice at the vigilante way
@@FrancisDietPodcast You mean you hope somebody that else does it, but not you. Then they get 3 years in jail while Edwards is still free. What's the point of that?
Do the source of the images get investigated in these cases?
@@danWMO7 no, at least not by the arresting officers. there is another department that deals with that.
Protect our children at all costs
Difficult in northern cities and telford
Huw most likely knows many in high places who do the same so he has a hold over them!!! So they protect each other.
The person who sent Edwards the images, and who owned a whole lot more - and worse - was a nobody, with no "people in high places" to protect him... and he too got a suspended sentence.
This kind of lenient sentence is the norm for this type of criminal. They can’t all hold something over someone! Unfortunately the sad fact is that children are not valued in our society and the courts/legislature do not care about them.
Exactly, spot on. That's why he was confidence on his way to court and on his way out of court. I felt this was already done and dusted privately but they had to show some of the content to the public ie show him going to court.
@@ValeriePhillips-lp3mx Confident? I thought he looked terrible and, according to reporters in the courtroom, he was frequently twitchy and nervous. He could easily have gone to prison, and he knew it.
I wish people would stop cooking up conspiracy theories.
@@ftumschk Weird you are protecting him. Can we please take your details
Free the children from these rules?
We do send them to jail, but they're broke and not super rich.
Congratulations to JoB for devoting his airtime to such an unpleasant but important topic. I know I couldn't - with so many shiny topics to hide behind as a radio host. I applaud his courage. As for the suspended sentence - I do not know all the legal ins and outs but this judicial leniency for a serious and harmful crime makes me deeply queasy.
The bizarre thing is that the TV licence fee payer indirectly paid Huw Edwards to do what he did
This sentence stinks. Something is very, very wrong in our society if child SA, which is what it is, isn’t punished in the toughest possible way. No matter who did it. No matter how they did it, be they creator, sender or receiver. They’re all the same crime. They are all part of the creation and perpetrators of the crime.
Otherwise we aren’t, as a society, really interested in preventing and stopping child SA.
I’m a survivor of child SA. It’s a constant struggle to feel like healing is possible when this repeatedly happens.
They are trying to normalize
There should be a ten year minimum, no parole.
Exactly .
Add being on the register for life - giving probation officers the ability to seize your electronic devices at any time; something I believe already happens.
The sick thing is people were defending him when the story broke, Owen Jones vicky Darby shire and many more
Victoria Derbyshire?
They 100% do it them selves then
I am 55 years old and was given to men for money by my mother. Taking Polaroid photos cost extra. I have lived a miserable existence ever since, I have a personality disorder and Complex PTSD. I would have rather I had been murdered than left to live with it.
I'm so sorry to hear what you had to go through. Nobody should ever have to survive that, but you somehow did. That's testament to your strength, but you also deserve happiness and I truly do hope it finds you if it hasn't already. I'm sending all my warmest wishes to you for a brighter, happier future.
Bravo, James. You spoke where others will not. You have my respect. Justice must change.
Is this your first experience of james 😂
@@lena-Ramone ... Third 🥉
BOTH THE GIVER AND THE TAKER OF THESE VILE DISGUSTING IMAGES, SHOULD HAVE GOT A LENGTHY JAIL SENTENCE.
I’m sure the judge was paid, it’s unbelievable.
In Australia we had an inquiry into Pedophiles decades ago. It exposed many people in the Police some of whom were charged but the Inquiry came to an abrupt end when Judges started to be named ,one of whom committed suicide.
One rule for the rich and famous ? One rule for joe public.This stinks
You completely missed the point
Did you even watch the video ? 8/10 people don’t get sent to jail for these crimes… that’s the issue here
This is still definitely 2 tier justice. He is in the club just like Jimmy was. It's no surprise he got off lightly... Sickening.
Not gonna lie. The sentence he said that I'm not writing actually stopped me from typing at work and covered my face. No words
Suddenly ,everyone including James O Brian, and Starmer, and the media are outraged , while totally ignoring trials ,like last week, where, 7 men trafficked an 11 year old to 143 men ,who are still free. Will he have Maggie Oliver on his show? Who could give him graphic accounts of children being abused.
I tried commenting on this video using three different accounts. They deleted every comment. LBC does it a lot
@@lynnelowery8435 disgusted that you haven't mentioned the huge west midlands case. Do you even care?
Same, that was horrible, it was like having the wind knocked out of you
@@StoneHardman You really think that LBC have people trawling through comments all day?? It is YT's algorithms.
That ‘banal’ phrase James shared there brought tears to my eyes. Just horrific.
What an emotive, tear-jerking comment from a little girl!
Hide behind mental health and other personal issues. Perfect damage limitation job.
Huw is a national treasure as is Jimmy Saville and Paul Gadd and all the others who walk the corridors of the BBC.
TV licence gone
My brother was given a bound copy of a years worth of our local newspapers, dated from the 1950s. Whilst looking at them, we spotted a story of a local man who had been sentenced to prison for just six months for child molestation. So the idea that we were tougher in the old days, is frankly a myth.
Absolutely. It's always been a joke. Anyone who thinks paedos and rapists have ever been sentenced approximately are living in a fantasy world. That's probably part of why it's so prevalent in our society, it's not taken seriously and often the judges treat the perpetrators with more sympathy than the victims.
If you watch live TV and fund the BBC via the licence, you are funding Huw's £300,000 pension and supporting the BBC managers who enabled both Savile and Edwards. Think about it. I gave up MSM TV three years ago. Never miss it.
Sick Country 😡
Unfortunately, paedophilia is rife across the whole world. The internet made this problem even worse.
This isn't limited to the UK.
And yet people in the UK still get sent to jail for merely using only words. We truly live in a Bizzaro World in this country!🤦🏻
No, they don't. Stop it.
@@Kettlepip What's your objection to the point made?
@@Kettlepip They do, harsh words on Twatter will see you visited by the police.
@@jtomlin1uk That it's not true. Apologies if that was unclear.
@@Kettlepip
Where have you been over the past few weeks? People are being sent to prison for posting online
We have the worst justice system in the world 🌎
Well that's a bit of an exaggeration. You should see some of the sentences rapists and killers get in some Scandinavian countries. I was listening to a Norwegen true crime podcast and had to give up after a number of episodes where despite multiple rapes, even multiple murders they'd release them after less than a decade in most cases. And of course they'd go on to do the same thing over and over. We aren't as lenient as some countries. But still terrible.
The wrong message at a critical time of government trust... Why should the people care or respect the law now when it's so obvious?
Government have no role in sentencing.
A sentence like this only serves to enbolden other monsters. Disgusting
Respectfully, his sentence is lifelong and also affects his family.
Jail merely puts a burden on the taxpayer and takes him out of a social environment he would be ostracised from anyway. Jail also infers him serving his punishment and resetting his life on release with a clean start.
Where there _IS_ a more cogent argument to be had, is why social medial opinions resulted in jail sentences, but more heinous social crimes only get suspended?
That makes idiots like O'Brien look rather dim in regards to 2-tier justice, which is clearly an evidence based fact.
@@ginskimpivot753 A 2 year suspended sentence and 25 sessions of rehab is hardly life long.
Your logic seems to suggest that no paedophiles should ever be given a prison sentence due to it being a burden on the tax payer.
CSA Abusers destroy Children's lives , each time their image is shared its the equivalent to being abused all over again for the child. I think that deserves at the minimum a prison sentence ! but clearly you do not.
Social Media 'Opinions' that incite Violence absolutely should be punished but this topic isn't about that is it ?
@@happycamper90596
*_"Social Media 'Opinions' that incite Violence absolutely should be punished but this topic isn't about that is it?"_*
I agree, where it is shown that such comments lead to actual harm.
So if paedophiles can have suspended sentences where their cravings generate supply so that their cravings are satisfied, thus causing serious harm to children _ipso facto,_ then there is indeed a two-tier justice system.
Put some words in the right order in English on a web page and you go to jail.
Create, propagate or finance child harm imagery which absolutely causes harm and you can have a suspended sentence.
I feel sick... this is sick.
I thought it would be 8 years. But to find out is was nothing made be sick and so angry
Two tier reporting and two tier reactions
5000 cases a year! That's a devastating indictment on Britain
What i find disgusting is how crimes like this against children are widely seen as the worst in society, the general public despise them, people see most murderers more favourably. Yet when sentencing they are usually let off or given some of the lightest sentencing around, why is that?
Imagine the political capital Keir Starmer could earn himself if he came out and said 'im disgusted at this and im going to talk to the CPS to see if an appeal can be made' Come on Keir. You made examples of the rioters. THESE ARE THE EXAMPLES THE PPL WANT. This sentence NEEDS APPEALED.
Build more jails. I realised when I spoke about the abuse I was suffering at the hands of my adoptive'mother', I was SOILING the listener's day. When I told my adoptive 'father' he threatened ME. In my experience most people do not want to hear about it. It began when I was a toddler. All these abusers must go to jail.
It is a crime which by its nature has immeasurable ramifications. I work in Mental Health, and I can tell you now, it ruins lives, and sadly, but unsurprisingly, is the biggest impact on victim suicidality. As for the shamefully inadequate punishment for perpetrators, I can only assume the powers that be are worried for themselves.
I don’t like James O’Brien. But I can feel his emotion here and I share it - as do all right thinking people. The BBC’s track record of covering for and promoting abusers within its ranks is now beyond ‘coincidence’ or mere incompetence. Something is very rotten. But it’s not just the BBC as James rightly observes - it’s institutions and powerful people everywhere who seem to be able to act with impunity and turn a blind eye when it suits them. It’s sickening. We cannot allow the downgrading and normalisation of this abuse of power. Stop coddling criminals and start focusing on the victims!
O brien emotion? He’s mates with Keir starmer who let Saville off
@@philbrainy2399 Your username and comment history don't match.
The comment phil made is 🎯
they dare not,,, he may open his mouth,, he knows too much about people and the system
I'd usually be quick to beleive that, but that doesn't need to be true to justify his pathetic sentence. Unfortunately, we are disgustingly weak on pedophiles in this country. So rare to see them imprisoned over images
Savile knew lots of connected people (like minded friends maybe) .. he must have known the right ones seeing as he never even got a knock at the door, isnt that right Keir Starmer ??
@@sprinkz6187 give it a rest. This has been investigated time and again and shown to be baseless.
@@priscillaroberts7945 sorry, I didn't realize it was you who did the investigations personally, Oh, but it wasn't was it, thought so 🙄
@sprinkz6187 Saville is another story entirely and frankly I wouldn't trust their investigations into that.
I strongly suspect it's because for a very very long time indeed, a significantly high number of Establishment figures actually sympathise and empathise with such crimes. Draw your own conclusions...
Very true
They are trying to normalise it. It is part of their elite culture - Read Brave New World
My thoughts exactly.
@@DPSamfish public school boys stick together.
hit the nail on the head in one, we all know who,it is part of parliamentary history,documented and proved true,even the RF ,the elite of the police ,it is all known and written of and there will be no justice from a judiciary that is all part of that same system ,with the BBC being almost like the head of the multi legged serpent that infests all our lives
O brien , Should get an award for his acting in this episode. His virtue signalling is cringe level 10. Friends with Kier Starmer who is cut from the same cloth as the judge that let Edward’s off. Hypocrisy at it finest.
Indeed, the only acting O' Brien is concerned with are what he calls "the bad actors" talking about "two-tier justice", which if you watch this again, you will notice he gets in very quickly near the start, in order to conveniently ring-fence that particularly uncomfortable and politically motivated truth, and allow him to proceed with his lamentation over Edwards without having to take recourse to the increasingly obvious reality of Starmer's Two-tier Britain.
@@eds-egg Spot on, his agonisingly cringe faux ‘overwrought with grief’ intro is just to pave the way for the fact that he agrees with the sentence.
This is a two tier world, but this is has been going on for years, these people would rather send a food thief to prison, and let these kiddie fiddlers , I think there are millions and millions out there in the world
To be fair in this country for the most part you don't get sent to prison for stealing food. The police tend to let such cases off with a caution and give the person information about food banks, charities that can help them etc I suppose it could be different for persistent re-offenders.
Didn't a couple young people recently get jailed for a peaceful climate protest....? Makes you think....who is more important? Oil and Gas Companies or children?
Yes, the climate ‘protestors’ got a 5 year jail sentence for being on a zoom call about the climate. How can Huw Edwards possibly have got a suspended sentence for what he’s done? This is a national disgrace.
one rule for us another for the rich and famous.
That mental health excuse is bs. I have depression and suicidal thoughts all the time but that doesn’t make me want to look at indecent pics of children
This is what they should be rioting about
Anyone remember Teresa May losing the file of high profile people!!!??
The judge was naive and gullible. Huw is a dangerous man.
@@ArranVid 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@ArranVid And you were in court to witness this judge being naive and gullible? Don't be thick.
@@scottreid1677 I am not being thick. The court reports speak for themselves. The judge thinks that Huw can be rehabilitated (that's wrong). The judge said that Huw is not a danger to kids (that's wrong). The judge talked about Huw not being offered a place at Oxford University and he talked about his dad being abusive (so what? My dad was probably like Huw's dad...my dad punched me in the head once when I was a kid and my dad gaslights often and my dad has verbally and physically abused my mum ever since 1991...my morals have not gone down though). The judge also thought that Huw showed genuine remorse (wrong again, Huw has no genuine remorse. Huw just regrets that he was caught for his crime). So yes, this judge is being gullible and naive, fact. If anyone is thick, it is the judge 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣. Don't hurl insults at people, that's very rude. Are you satisfied with the judge's verdict? If you are, then that is absolutely ridiculous. Huw got a slap on the wrist, the sentence that Huw got was a complete joke.
Yes Guillable!!! 100%⚖️ 🇬🇧 💷!
Well, well, well. Everyone with daddy issues and rejected by their chosen uni. What a load of
Yes, but I notice James is often very quick to accept without question the official explanation of "mental health" when given as a motivating cause of some of the most heinous terrorist atrocities.
The latest Rotherham grooming gangs took over 20 years to be convicted. Is this bloke shouting about that?
With respect to the lenient sentence , Why wasn't he fined 2 million pounds to repay taxpayers for the costs involved to prosecute this case by the authorities if the 'liberal' judge wasn't going to jail Mr Edwards
This country is finished..weak in the judiciary..weak in the policing..weak in border controls and weak in the threats from Putin and in our desperation to ask the USA can the UK allow our own weapons to be used
Don't forget folks, Starmer helped get Saville off and said he had no case to answer for.
That isn't what happened.
At the time there were 4 complaints against saville, and none of those complainants were willing to give evidence in court.
Without any witnesses to give evidence any prosecution was bound to fail. So the case did not proceed as there was no reasonable prospect of success.
These are very sensitive matters, and disinformation like yours is really not helpful.
Its also not up to the court of public opinion
Huw should be in prison for life, same with that other guy who was sending him pictures.
James O Brian, only last week sheffield crown court had a trial of 7 men trafficking 11 year old to 143 men , who are still free . Look at the media outside the Hew Edwards, trial, and compare ,no media outside Sheffield crown court. Perhaps have Maggie Oliver, on your show.
He hasn’t got the bottle to invite Maggie on. Has he ever mentioned Rotherham at any point over the period of the trial or pre trial?
Maggie Oliver 👍 moralistic woman 🇬🇧 🎤 🎙 🎬!!
So why WAS Jill Dando killed?
The simple fact that Starmer said he would use "The full force of the law" on so-called right wing thugs, shows he believes in a two tier system. The law should be applied equally to everyone, you don't use full force with one group and what? less than full force with others?
Yes it was Keir starmer that passed this sentence 🤨
It's all one big judicial club
He deserves jail time definitely for his sordid crimes ....but why have you never had a discussion on the grooming gangs located in most cities n towns in Britain, James?
It truly beggars belief that people convicted of child abuse can avoid prison. What can the judges be thinking? Do they really believe that it's a minor offence? What way are their minds working?
To everyone shocked by this outcome, look into molestation cases. This is actually more of a win than most victims see. Its more common for a victim to see jail time when they come forward rather than their abuser. You should be outraged as i am but im not shocked.
Because hurty words on social media are far more dangerous. 🤪🤪🤪
Get your facts straight.
Encouraging attacks on a hotel at a time when it was likely people would act on that, is not hurty words. It is incitement.
Let’s hear any MP call this out.
Rich people don't go to jail... not exactly news
This week, another tv personality lost his job and had that evening’s programme suspended, because he was accused by his estranged wife of cohesive and controlling behaviour. No photos to be seen, obviously.
Do you mean the one who was given an MBE recently for no apparent reason ?
If you're talking about Jay Blades, it was and still is in the press with his picture shown and he was named. I guess being accurate wouldn't fit whatever your agenda is!
@@kevwalker5714 He was awarded for setting up three charities. What are your achievements?
@@williamdew7143psychopaths always act as philanthropists like jimmy saville 🤨🤨
Two completely unrelated cases. There aren't photos of everything, doesn't mean it didn't happen. Do you think there are pictures of every second of people's lives?
A friendly reminder that people are being given years behind bars for naughty words....have a nice day.
Just wondering who and which words? 🤔
@@hanselmansell7555 crawl back under your rock mate
@@hulkhogan3104 Says the person who posted this OP.
@@hulkhogan3104Why didn't you answer him instead of insulting him? You could have given a few names and examples in the time it took you to reply what you did. Did he touch a nerve because you know that's BS?
@@hulkhogan3104 I was just asking a simple question mate, why the insult? I just really want to know, give me a clue, what should I google?
The BBC spent years protecting Saville and Now Edwards, another bbc employee who gets away with the despicable behaviour goes free.
Peados sentencing peados
I was expecting the Far Right members of my political Facebook group to jump all over this, just like they do when a Muslim predator is in the spotlight. But nope, they’re as quiet as an introvert at a party.
Hi I am one of those people,I am livid that this pervert is at home possibly doing more.of the same,only the poor go to jail,we ought to be doing something about this,I'm sure we both agree on that ,we must find a way of coming together to stop this evil.
How can you tell anyone's political stance by comments on a utube video?
Stop stirring🙄
Because its obvious he wouldn't of gone down. No point talking about it we have 2 teir justice.
I am a Probation Officer and do not see this sentence as unusual, it is what in my experience I would have expected. It is in keeping with sentence guidelines and the Judge applied them flawlessly. Huw Edwards did not receive special treatment
I think the whole point is that the justice system and sentence guidelines themselves are too lenient, not that the judge didn’t apply them properly.
Hiding behind mental health issues is a disgrace, these people can't go back in to society, jail for life with no visitors. They have evidence, he is guilty, this isn't a difficult one to rule on
BBC needs to go
😂😂😂 ok gb news man
@@thedethrocker8858 this is LBC
The rots coming from inside the house.
Curious to note how James very quickly ring-fences the increasingly obvious state of Two-Tier justice in this country (because he knows it is politically motivated, and agrees with it) and then spends the rest of the conversation exasperated as to why Edwards was not sent to jail, conveniently absolving himself of the uncomfortable responsibility of having to look at the political agenda behind Two-Tier policing and justice.
If you look up the figures the ones sent to prison have a higher chance of reoffending I’d imagine that’s why.
And what makes you think any of them have ‘less chance’ of reoffending???
No. He will reoffend having worked with pedophiles I can guarantee he will before his sentence is up. He's isolated he's ridiculed. Rightfully so
@@mogznwaz statistics, people who go to prison have a higher chance of reoffending, the people on community sentences the figures like less than three percent that reoffend.
So your answer is send them all to prison so on release more children will get hurt?
I think this crime is ao leniently punished because its pervasive in every institution every level of government, and every level of the judiciary and has done for generations.
Is he a dual citizen of Israel
It’s me rioters edicts handed down from high. That’s not a societal thing, that’s people of influence and power telling the judicial system what to do. So, in this instance, same thing to watch, barbaric acts done to children, the lowest thing in society to sexually abuse, a child