Worth it? The EcoTech VorTech MP10 , MP40 and MP60 review - It’s BRS recommended.
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- Опубліковано 8 вер 2019
- Why is this pump BRS Recommended? It's one of the EASIEST to maintain; BEST looking pumps in the tank (meaning nearly invisible); and has one of the BEST battery backup solutions out there!
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➡ EcoTech VorTech MP10 : brs.li/BRS_EcoTechVorTech_MP10
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I really wish someone would compete with vortech and bring the ridiculous prices down. Such a shame to the consumer that there is only one option on the market for powerheads with cords outside the tank..
They have a patent, until it expires no one can make one sadly.
All Mp`s going noisy over the time. Additional, in the us, you only have one year warranty. this is ridiculous
I have been using my MP10 for almost 2 years. It is quiet and continues to be the best pump i have ever purchased. Also the battery backup for the Vortech is a little pricey but it has saved my butt idk how many times. When the batter goes bad (like all batteries do) a 5 min youtube video and a trip to interstate batteries and you are back up and running.
That power head costs more than my entire 10 gallon saltwater tank lmao
I love my rossmont mx2600! Moves tons of water, small, quiet, priced right, 3 year warranty, and low maintenance.
They work great. But the ability to angle and direct the flow is limited. No tilt or angulation is available.
How about adding, reviewing and recommending more cost friendly items. Not everyone can drop hundreds 💰💰💰 down on a pump.
Also the warranty for this level of price and supposed quality is poor. Should be 3 years at s minimum or 5 years. Especially if they are so good.
That's backwards logic. They have great resale value. Why do you think cheaper shitty cars give you a better warranty than the more reliable brands?
BRS Recommended Gear in today's video:
➡ EcoTech VorTech MP10 : brs.li/BRS_EcoTechVorTech_MP10
➡ EcoTech VorTech MP40 : brs.li/BRS_EcoTechVorTech_MP40
➡ EcoTech VorTech MP60 : brs.li/BRS_EcoTechVorTech_MP60
Idc how good it is for $300+ ill just stick to the hydor for $30 lol
I agree 100%. If I ever spend $300!for 1 flow pump I need to find a new hobby. I don’t care how good it is, I’ll buy 10 other pumps and make due.
Well it’s not a cheap hobby. I mean what do you expect? Light and Flow are the most important variables. I wouldn’t cheap out on that. Sure there are cheaper options, but they lack controllability and user-friendliness.
Couldn't agree more. The MP40 is about $150 over priced. Plus the fact that there legal department is more concerned about there patent... because, let's face it, turning a magnet shouldn't cost upwards of 400 dollars, and hydor knows it. But I digress... 1 year warranty is a joke. DO NOT BUY!!!
I guess you get what you pay for... I have Hydor in my Cichlid 125.. but for the Reef Tank it's Vortech for me.
@@Adrian-dw1oh It's ironic that you say cheaper options lack controllability while talking about Ecotech vortech MPs, they don't even have the ability to angle and tilt.
There are others where essentially you can have a fresh brand new one or two on hand for still 1/2 the cost of some of these pumps.
AI Nero 5 all the way , got two for the new tank , fantastic
The magnet doesn't really hold on glass 1/2 inch thick, otherwise I'd get one of those.
I got one too. Controlling via the free app is fantastic!
I'm replacing my N5 in my Reefer it is kinda small in size( which i like) seems to bind up.. How's your App working? it was a chore getting it set up.. almost as bad as the Kessil App.
My two MP10’s have had 3 wet side failures in 18 months, my Vectra S1 failed at 15 months. Appalling quality.
Once you own them... you just know. They are the best!
I own 2x MP40s because I don't want extra clutter in my display tank. However, in terms of growing coral, 2x Jebaos or no-name pumps will do the job. I have 2 Jebao accessory pumps in my frag tank and it grows coral just as quickly as the display tank with the Ecotechs.
No doubt you can run all sorts of different brands and still get results. For the same reason you mentioned, we like the Vortech pumps because they keep the inside of the tank looking sharp. Not to mention that they're some of the easiest to clean powerheads out there currently.
@@BRStv No doubt the vortechs are easier to clean! 🙂
No mention of it reducing motor heat transfer into the tank
I love my vortechs , however soaking them in a cleaning solution is something I don’t do. The spindle is metal and have a ceramic coating. It can rust with the use of chemical agents to clean it
solution is then?
I Buy all mine secondhand, I have three MP40ws that I have used for 6 years and cost me a third of the sticker price. Not one has stopped! I also run my own DIY power backup for them, they are the only pump I would buy.
Jestronix Handerson can you help me find one for a third of the sticker price?
I found mine on gumtree and eBay. One just died the other day, rusted out magnets , polluted my entire tank which lead to a few months of me trying to work out why my sps were shitty yet massive water changes! They have picked up since removing the pump. I may replace my others with new wetsides.
They're only good for so long until they start rusting or bearings wear out. and, their customer service isn't the best.
Any follow up on a Reef2Reef post that stated that doing vinegar baths (which often is done in lieu of citric acid) for cleaning might prematurely cause Vortech magnets to fail. Supposedly idea is based on any old Randy Holmes-Farley quote that stated that the acetic acid (vinegar) contains neutral molecules which may pass through plastic, and since the magnets can rust, which is why they epoxy/plastic coating (I know, I had gen 1, where there was a clear coating of some sort, and those definitely did not work). So since this is one of your best selling pumps, maybe do a little experimenting and perhaps put warnings up to not clean in vinegar?
Mine jammed from vinegar bath as well.
Had 2 MP10’s then switched to Nero 5’s and let me say night and day difference. The best part of the MP’s is they have a high resale! I don’t have a thick enough tank for the “magnet” issues some do with the Nero’s though
So which one did you like? Couldn’t really understand
I have had mine for 7 years my battery backup for 6 years I live in a place where we loose power frequently and sometimes up to 4-7 days the back up can work up to 4 days at 6yrs. To me worth every penny I only cycle it once or twice a year / drain battery and fullyrecharge!!! I have a mp10 and a mp40 love them worth the money. If you use the spong covers clean them every water change. Enjoy
How about I crowd fund a cheaper option just as efficient with a slightly different build design 🤔🤔
Considering almost all aquarium stuff is overpriced I’m assuming it doesn’t cost hundreds of dollars a unit to produce...
Ryan ,,,, question for you ,,, would two mp10s on the back wall of my 5ft long by 500mm front to back and 14inch water depth be sufficient... thank you .
Why are people so hung up on the warranty? It's the same thing with cars, you think Mercedes is gonna give you a better warranty than Hyundai? It's because they're quality pumps and they still hold incredible resale value.
What's the name of the fish that appears at the left corner of the tank at 03:11 in the video? Is It some kind of wrasse?
The best in the industry. I’ve had most and definitely the way to go.
Quick question I am building a concrete aquarium and need some power heads for flow. I am guessing the magnets on the Ecotec are not powerful enough to go through 6 inches or more of block? :)
Definitely not strong enough. Sounds like you're going to need more commercial grade options.
@@BRStv Thanks I may have to silicone them in permanently - may go 4 Tunze 6105 from you - getting so many good ideas from u!
Would it be great if the part that goes in the tank was clear
Great idea!
Sounds like a job for your 3D Printer!!
Can you programme the mp40 to stop at certain times throughout the day, if you are using an auto feed system for example ?
The only way that you'd be able to pull that off would be to have it on a ReefLink or by plugging it into a controllable outlet like an Apex, where you can cut power to the pump.
The price tag is ridiculous.....
But then the comments section pretty much already speak of that....
How do I get the MP40 for $329 like down in the video? They are $40 more than that now.
I tried saving money buying cheaper unheard of brand names and at first worked great but twice now I have had stray voltage coming from them. Definitely going with the Ecotech cause the motor and chords are outside of the water. Wasted enough money on the no name pumps I could buy another MP40.
I used jebao and thought the vortech s were not worth the price. Until the Jeboas kept going out. I then picked up some mp40s. Night and day difference. The best 700 dollars I spent on the tank.
The new Tunze Stream 3’s have 5 year warranty are cheaper. I’ll stick with Tunze.
Where did you purchase your Tunze from?
If I had some that I have that broke I'd switch to ECM
I'm new to the reefing community and I think I may have killed my my clean up crew!
I watched the video on how to get rid of unwanted parasites by boiling them off.
What is a safer way for the next time I clean my clean up crew?
No idea what you are doing but please be aware of the dangers of palytoxin in our hobby.
Um, don't boil anything live.. including coral, invertebrates, fish and live rock. Also palytoxin is deadly, boiling anything with trace amounts may land you in the hospital.
You have to season them after you're done boiling them
Boiling anything in this hobby is very dangerous due to the fumes of some corals (Palys and zoas in particular). Getting your clean up crew from a reputable source would be the best option where there is little worry about them being "dirty." You can also clean the shells of clean up crew members with a toothbrush if there is any algae that you'd like to remove.
How big is the MP10 size wise? Are these reliable?
The dry sides are roughly 2.5" in diameter and stick about 2" off of the tank glass. The wet sides are about the same diameter, but only stick into the tank about 2". They're very reliable pumps. Most of our tanks here at the office run MP10s
I have marine tank starter 112 gallon 48"×24"24" pls tell me which one is best MP10 MP40 MP60 pls ?
On such a large tank, the MP10s likely won't be strong enough to stick to the glass. Given the 4' length, the MP40s would suffice in most cases.
I find it funny that so many people are willing to spend in excess of 840 for a single xr30 pro light, but when it comes to flow, they freak out over the cost of ecotech mp40's at less than half that price. Let's be honest, this is not a cheap hobby to get into. But some of the most important parts of the hobby is light and flow. So why would you cheap out on either of them? The other thing is, don't want to pay full price, then scour the ads and look for used equipment. Everyday i see people getting out of the hobby and selling off their equipment. You can pick up a lot of high end equipment for a lot less. There is a way to do anything that you want to do in this hobby, you just have to be willing to put effort into finding what you want at a price point you can afford. And for the record, I love my 2 mp40's. They are ultra quiet and i have two battery backups (1 for each of them), and i love them.
4 star ⭐️ review for a $300 pump🤔...I’ll stick with my $40 pump lbs!!!
I'll stick with my Nero 5. Super quiet and moves a ton of water .
That's what i used to use.
Jabeo slw-20. Just like AI NERO 5
Ecotech or gyre? I don't know wich too buy..
Each one has very unique flow patterns compared to the other. The gyre is great if you need a sheet of water type flow pattern. If you have a tall aquascape or corals that have grown near the water surface, this is a solid choice. If you need to concentrate flow in a more specific area of the tank, the Vortech pumps are a good choice for that. Of course, the Vortech pumps also have the advantage of having the cords on the outside of the tank, which is aesthetically pleasing.
Yes they're expensive, but they look so good in the tank and can pump some water.
Oh btw, there are tons of people’s having problems with these so call higher qualify well made pumps.
The only difference is that it's magnetic. I'm not paying 300 dollars on that just because it has a magnet
You truly get what you pay for. No one could appreciate the quality and performance of Ecotech products until they use them. Yes, they are expensive, but they are the best.
Of course they’re recommended, they’re one of the best... if not best
They also forget that only maybe 20% of Reefers can afford the equipment they recommend. Which happens to be the stuff they make the most money on. But the stuff they recommend on there site on a budget is never shown or other products cost effective item are never given a chance. Here we recommend a $400 pump or $300 skimmer (💰💰💰 for BRS). I would like to have a Tesla but can afford to drive a Honda Civic ,to give an example.
I totally get where you're coming from Daniel. No doubt that you can have a successful reef tank with a less expensive powerhead. The Tunze powerheads for example, work great and can be purchased for less than $100 for some of their more popular AC models. The Hydor options work well as a more budget friendly option.
Will never use another pump. Best there is.
Is it anemone safe
I'm not sure I'd call any powerhead truly anemone safe. That said, there are products out there like the NemProtect and Urchin Guard that can be added to help protect the nem if it were to get close to the power head.
Pov: you accidentally clicked on this ad
Jaebo do the samething clean them they last 1/10th the cost
First Jaebo don't do "the same thing" if one of the things you care about is cords in a tank because if it's cords in a tank, now if you're talking about wide water flow, then yeah there's Tunze, Korallia, Sicce, Hydor and a bunch of others that do that so why pick Jaebo? Because it is the cheapest pump out there that doesn't care about patents?
@@Mike__B it's all about the 💰💰💰 BRS most people can't afford that type of pump and most people understand, if you want the best you have to pay for it. But that shouldn't discredit people from start a tank. All I'm asking BRS is to show things people can afford.
Jebaos are trash. Bought 3 all broke within a year.
@@laurens6267 Really?
@@neogeo227 That's not what these videos are about though, they're not showing "high, medium, and low cost solutions..." they're showing which products they recommend based on what they sell.
But lets get away from Ecotech, why can't people "afford" Hydor Korallia pumps? Or Rossmont pumps, or whatever, there are plenty of alternatives other than Jebao. They're hardly expensive, and to be perfectly honest, if I were to recommend pumps to people trying to start a tank on a budget I'd do these.
But the way you're talking is that you want a Ferrari, but you want to pay Honda Fit like prices. And to use that analogy, both will do the job of getting you from place to place but in no way are they "the same thing" for 1/10th the cost.
10 SECONDS? Who's got that kinda time??!!
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If they lowered their price they’ll sell a ton more!!! They’re made in China I believe lol
They are too expensive. Another example of a Apple company. They do so much advertising and have to make the cost up somehow. Like selling 100 pumps for over 300. Not a good buy and honestly a mag drive pump on a diy recirculating system does better.
My brother in law put all top-end equipment in his tank and at 18 months it crashed from dino and 3 grand went straight down the toilet. Mine is all secondhand and 2 years going strong
I cant afford that so i got a hygger for $77
Jeabo 4 life.
$400 for 1 powerhead?
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Nah I'll stick to cheaper powerheads and deal with the cords.
Fair enough. There are certainly a number of other fantastic powerheads out there if you're ok with the cords. The gyre pumps from Maxspect and the Tunze Turbelle pumps are two that come to mind :)
@@BRStv I placed an order for a jebao 150
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Brand queens that feel like the super expensive stuff is always the best
7hatGuy he literally said this is one of the few exceptions where the most expensive is the best out there..
BaileyQ i have no doubt they are good pumps. To me though the price point is that high because people are willing to spend that. This hobby is wild man. Its like the more something cost the better it sales because the majority of people think that because it’s ridiculously overpriced it has to be amazing.
Lol and the reasons it got the best tag is because of personal opinion. No cords, easy to clean, and battery backup.
I want a long lasting pump that is going to give me amazing flow. The ice cap gyre and jabeo pumps accomplish that i havnt spent what one mp40 costs
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7hatguy trust me im a ebay hoe myself and ive bought enough pos China powerheads to know its worth the 300$ for a mp10 no B.S. bro....now on the chealp light topic i got your back because i love my 300w viparspectra ;) but hey yall all take care :)
I used jebao pumps before and bought some used mp40s for @$150.
MP40s are much much better. Not even close.
What i wish they would do is a brstv investigates on light photography diffusion paper and which one will work best for a LED defuser.
Never would buy them. No directional control, so you would end up buying more to get the directional flow you require.
That's a fair concern. If you need better directional control, take a look at the Tunze line of powerheads. How they mount to their bracket gives you a ton of different directional options.
For $329 am i the only one who thinks that’s just ridiculous?
Definitely not for everyone. If you're looking for a more budget friendly option, Tunze makes some awesome powerheads :)
“Not the cheapest” , literally the most expensive 😂
Not worth it, these pumps cost like $30 to make
I'm curious to know how much ECOTECH paid for this advertisement hahahahah
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$300 lmao
Amazon $10
Over priced
Dude you talk like Trump
Overpriced no thanks
Way overpriced just like a lot of things we human recreated. Lots of people including myself are able to afford them but just can’t justify myself paying that much for them while there are plenty of options that costs way less.
This channel is completely out of touch with the average person. And for what? To have an unnatural, freakishly colored, freakishly whipping in the current corals? I find fish much, much more interesting than corals. To see corals whipping around in the current makes me almost feel sorry for them. But regardless - the average hobbyist does not have the ability or desire to keep throwing money by the hundreds at this crap. And an Apex controller to monitor wave pump current? That's madness. And I'm a retired biomedical engineer. Just because you can do something doesnt mean that you should. Go back to basics, people - you'll enjoy your hobby a lot more
To see coral whipping around in the current makes you feel sorry for them? Bruh....... they literally need need good current to thrive. Plenty of other legit things to feel sorry about my man.
What you said is equivalent to saying "to see fish in water almost makes me feel sorry for them" haha
Corals like flow like fish like water you might as well say you feel sorry for keeping the fish in a tank instead of the wild???!!!