Hope you guys enjoy this install video! I had so many people asking me about what charger I used and how did I install it, so out with the old, in with the new! Tight lines everyone, more boat goodies coming soon 👊🎣🛠
I had watched multiple videos and was hung up on having the charger hooked up on different batteries on a 24 V system then my brain kicked in and reminded me that you are charging with amps dummy! Good video thanks! Double check your instructions some of these chargers say do not install on carpet.
I replaced a dealer installed Bass Pro XPS 20A/3B with this very one. The hardest part was drilling new screw holes. After that, it was plug and play. Thank you for making these videos. I also have a Minn Kota 24V trolling motor as well. Please accept my super thanks.
The bass pro one is made by the same company as this. Literally the exact same thing just different buttons. Look at your warranty card to where the bass pro has to be sent to.
Man I just found your channel and I’m so glad I did. Just bought a boat with more issues than what I had initially thought it was going to have. This video and your trolling motor install video are really great and are really going to help me out. Thanks for the content, definitely will be following from now on
Thanks Dan, I truly appreciate these videos. Between this video and the 24v connections you have saved me big times. If you ever come to GA beers are on me
Great video mate, just one important point, given the heat that can be generated by these chargers the units should be mounted direct to a fibreglass or aluminium panel. I noticed you installed yours over your nylon carpet that is quite flammable. Just a geeky point but check the manufacturers install instructions as they do make reference to this very point. Keep up the good work Cheers
You are correct that you need to be conscious of where you're installing it however I did contact the manufacturer ahead of time and showed them photos of my installation and they said because it's in a well-vented area and not enclosed it was completely fine. On my boat the only bare sections are in small compartments which presented a bigger danger because you're not supposed to put them in enclosed compartments with no ventilation. To your point though, it is very important that if you're not sure where to install or have any questions, don't be afraid to contact the manufacturer like I did. Thanks for the comment! 👍
Thanks for sharing your video, I had an idea as to how to hook something like this up and your video just made it that much clearer and your attention to detail is awesome!! Safety first especially on the water!! Thanks again! :)
I have an older pro Sport two bank. I run three batteries. Two series 27 in parallel and a series 24 cranking battery. I ran a longer negative wire to my second 27 series and the positive to the first one. It charges fine.
You can absolutely do that and get away with it no problem, the issue with doing that is the battery diagnostics the bank charger does (assuming yours does this) become useless because it can no longer load test the individual batteries. But other than that, it will definitely charge your setup :)
Right on Dan. Thanks for quickly responding. I just installed the HD20Plus on my boat yesterday. Glad you know. All the manufacturers have subtle differences. I had installed an MK 330 PC (manufactured in 2020) last year. It has fried 2 new batteries (plus the original battery)=3! on bank 2 and Minn Kota REFUSES to acknowledge my warranty claim. (Per Scott at their help center). I could HEAR the new batteries boiling in both cases. BEWARE Minn Kota. They will gaslight you over the phone and tell you it is YOUR problem. So disappointed. Love your channel.
Wow that's crazy! Those MK chargers are premium pricing, sounds like they were overcharging your batteries! When you overcharge and send too much amperage or voltage, the battery will start to off-gas and bubble because the excessive power is breaking down the electrolyte in each of the cells. And as you saw, if you don't catch it and figure out what the issue is, it will eventually kill the battery. Sorry you're dealing with that, that sucks :( I'd keep pressuring them to be honest... My CS experience with MK isn't great either. They refused to admit the interference issues on my TM are directly due to an issue with the design of the motor and not due to an external factor. Even the authorized repair center for MK told me this is a design flaw in that model. One of the reasons why I decided to stick to Garmin equipment and not go with HB's MEGA platform. I'll also be moving to the Garmin Force TM soon.
@@DanRichardFishing It's BS.....but the time involved etc. is not worth it to me. I have heard stellar reviews of ProMariner....gonna cut my losses and start anew. Albeit I will bag on MK PC chargers to all my fishing buddies from here on out. Word of mouth can be cathartic.
Just having a bank charger in general is SUCH a time saver. I still have people that argue there's no need and I'm like... you don't know what you're missing lol!
Dan. Just wanted to say thanks for explaining everything in such a way that is simple and to the point. I have watched over a dozen wiring videos and yours is the best and easiest to follow!
Well done Dan... the only thing I would've done is to Ty-Wrap (zip tie) the excess wire in your battery box... it's just my OCD that makes me do things like that... Lol
Haha fear not!! at the end of the video I mentioned that the last thing to do is get some tie wraps and organize all the wires and don't worry that included the battery compartment 🤣🤣
1) If your boat is outside, what kind of extension cord do you use, that is, any specific AMP extension cord? 2) If you have a fridge in the boat, can you allow the fridge to be running non-stop and cold with the house battery on? Thanks...
Cool video!! One useful tip. The difference between waterproof and submersible night and day. When ever you can purchase a product for the bildge area I always try and look for submersible in the literature
Absolutely! I wouldn't recommend installing these in your bilge area either way. Also they don't really say waterproof or submersible anymore, you have to look at the IP rating. For example IP68 is "deemed fit enough to withstand dust, dirt and sand, and are resistant to submersion up to a maximum depth of 1.5m underwater for up to thirty minutes.".
So after you install it and hook it up to the batteries when you plug it into the wall you can plug it and forget it till next time you take out the boat you never have to unplug it after a week or two or a month ..it's a plug it into the house and forget it till the next time you take the boat out no matter how long and it won't blow up the battery in or house
Very fine video and demonstration of your setup. Question: do you know if there is a 'parasitic' draw on the batteries, from the ProMariner battery charger when the charger is not plugged into the AC? If so do you know the amperage of the parasitic draw from the batteries? Thank you! Greg
There should not be, all the status lights etc are all shut off and monitoring is disabled when unplugged. With that said, I am not 100% sure if there is a small draw as my boat is always plugged and I no longer run a Promariner now that I run Lithium. I would give their awesome customer service a call to be sure.
Gday from Australia, great video mate. 1 question, I have similar set up with 24v (2x100ah lithium) and a lead acid starter batt (12v). Will this charger manage both lithium and lead acid at the same time or do they need to all be the same chemistry?
So you don't have to unplug the leads to each battery after they're charged? Like you can run the batteries still plugged into the charger correct? I've been undoing the charger from every battery when I get on the water but I wasn't sure if that was necessary or not
You definitely do not need to disconnect your bank charger leads when not in use, that's what makes them so convenient :) bolt them down and keep them plugged unless you need to yank out your batteries :)
So I just stumbled on your page and watched this video and went to Amazon to check the charger out and it has poor reviews written on it. Saying the charger lasts only a year and the plug is for European use and I wanna know if since you have made this video if you have had any problems with it ? If I buy this I can just drive to Cabela’s and get it .
How did the DIY bank extension cable work out for you? Pro mariner wants $50 for the extension cable off the shelf, so looking to do this myself for much cheaper.
Your install kind of answered a question I had about charging these batteries connected together as a 24 V system I see you still just hook them up like a 12 V charger to each one I disconnected mine and charge them that way I take it by your install you do not have to do that so my next question is can I hook up a Nother 12 V product to one of these batteries and it just be 12 V
Oh great question and yes you can, absolutely just use the positive and negative terminals of the same battery. But word of warning just in case you are thinking of connecting any chartplotters/fishfinders to one of your trolling motor batteries - if you do that, you'll likely get heavy interference on your screen every time you engage the trolling motor so not recommended. Hope that helps!
Hey Dan! I have a skii boat / fishing boat. I have 2 bank charger right now. I plan on getting a 112lb thrust riptide transom trolling motor. Is it possible to have 2 battery chargers at the same time?
Okay so you mean your old charger will charge two banks and then your new charger will charge two other banks? If that's the case, then yes absolutely you can do that, the only pain in the butt is that you have to plug in two chargers instead of just one when you get home but other than that it's fine :) thank you for the question!
silly question I have an old one and want to check the inline fuses but doesn't seem to want to open. Any suggestions? Got to turn it a certain way? The manual gives no hint
I believe you're supposed to push in and twist counterclockwise to open those ones but let me pull my old one out and take a look. Give me a bit and I'll get back to you!
How does the banks charge more in parallel when its on big battery? Isnt it just one bank then. That would be like trying to bridge chargers which doesnt work.
What would you recommend for a 16' Tin boat w a Group 24 Marine Cranking, and a group 27 marine deep cycle setup w the possibility of my a dding a second group 27 deep cycle if I find I need it later? A 3 bank 12/24 but how many amps??? (Ive never used a trolling motor until this in progress rebuild...)
The one I show in this video would be perfect for you, but overall you want to find a charger that is at least 5amps per bank or higher. I actually just installed a new charger on my boat because I am running lithium now and it's 10A per bank. Super fast!
Will this continue to charge your battery while you are out at the sandbar with the radio on and the engine off or will this only work to charge your batteries at home?
Dan your vids are so helpful. I have a 3 bank charger. I have 2 banks on the 24v trolling batteries. I have 2 starter batteries wired through a switch. Can I use the 3 rd charger bank to charge both starting batteries since they both are wired through the switch? Seems like I could when the switch is on both? TIA
Hi Chris, thank you so much for your kind words and your question! I apologize for taking so long, I could have sworn I answered this earlier but it didn't show up! So yes, you can definitely charge through the switch, but just remember the diagnostic features of the bank charger will be useless because if something is wrong, you won't know which of the 2 batteries is giving you an issue. That's why I always recommend 1 bank per battery. So if that happens, you'll need to hook up that bank to each battery one at a time until you figure out which one is the dud. Hope that helps!
Can you charge just 2 batteries with this 1 and when your ready to upgrade to the third for the 24v trolling motor it will be there? Or should you just buy the 2 bank for 2 batteries?
You can absolutely charge just two batteries and leave one Bank unconnected it'll simply give you an error that the third Bank is not connected but it'll still charge your other batteries normally and then when you get your third battery go ahead and hook it up. Hope that helps and thank you for the question! :)
I am in the process of rewiring my boat. I have 3 batteries, 1 main, 2 backup battery and 3 fir power pole. No electronics other than navigation lights, ICommand dials, live baitwell and areator, and an LED light bar for navigating in the dark. All this one one battery and the second is the backup to this arrangement. I would like to install this type of charger with the 3 banks. My problem is the 3 batteries are located separately; on under one hatch at the rear, another under the other hatch at the rear, and the last under the center console. Would it work with that longer run from the console?
Great question - you will have to get extension cables because the wires are only about 6' long for each bank. So for example in my installation, I created an extension for the bank that goes to the main battery in the back. So you can either make your own or you can contact ProMariner and they can provide you with pre-made extensions. Hope that helps!
Dan I have the pro sport 3 bank charger, want to check the fuses. these fuse are interlocked in black rubber hosing, and advices how to separate them with out casing damage to the hosing or wiring? looking for some advice before i cause any damage. Thanks,
Why do i get a red fault led on in a new battery? Is atleast at 12.90 when tested. And still getting blue pulsing led. Completion status is only 2 green leds on
That's very strange, does the bank do the same thing on another battery or does another bank do the same thing if you connect it to that particular battery? Or do you only have a single bank and a single battery and can't try that?
@@DanRichardFishing i called C S and they told me to connect both banks on the same battery bcuz i was just using one. That solve the problem. Thanks for replying
You should not use a 24 volt setup on equipment rated for 12 volts but if that's the setup you have, you can use what's called a 24v to 12v step down converter like this: amzn.to/3vaTY41 It's important that you get one for the amperage you're drawing, so if you plan on using this on a trolling motor, you'll need a 40 amp one like the one I linked to above. There are cheaper ones but they are usually rated to 10 amps and a 30 pound thrust trolling motor has a max draw of around 30 amps. Also remember you should always avoid wiring your fish finder to the same battery as a trolling motor or you risk serious interference on the screen when your trolling motor is on. Hope that helps!
This is a great question I actually asked the manufacturer this because I said what if someone has a mix of AGM and regular flooded batteries. In this case, set the charger to AGM and it will properly charge all the batteries even if there's a mix. Please note this is not an appropriate charger for lithium batteries. Thanks so much for your question!
Hey thanks! Yeah I hate dark garages as I use my garage as a workshop. So both garage door openers have 2 daylight LED bulbs each, that are the equivalent of 80watts each and then the ceilings have 6 pairs of approx 5 foot fluorescent lights. When I shoot video, I also have a round light I shine off to the side to light my shooting area a bit. I can't point it straight at me or else you're just going to see the reflections in my glasses 😂 we moved here last year and we had such a hard time because I refused to buy any house that didn't have a double garage that was at least 25 ft deep for my boat hehe
great video - i have been doing he multiple mini chargers for years, and wondering if its harming my batteries not being charged properly or well enough. was looking at this one and the minn kota's and i think i like this one better due to status lights and such, both almost the same technology wise. thanks for sharing, and pointing out the pros, just have to measure and see if it will fit in my compartment or figure where to put. good stuff.
Yeah the multiple charger thing is brutal! Just bear in mind if you do move up to a bank charger, it needs to get decent ventilation due to the heat they generate when in use. If you put it in a compartment, make sure you leave the compartment open when charging! Allowing these to overheat too much can shorten their lifespan. Good luck with your install and thanks for the comment!
@@DanRichardFishing oh yeah, it will be in the rear large compartment but I always leave open when in garage. Thanks for the info, might even put fan blowing in there.. Thanks again
Another???? For you, I only need a 2 bank unit, I have one for trolling motor, and my starting engine and accessories battery which runs fish finders, etc. What size would you recommend? The 12 amp or 20amp unit
If you have 1 starter battery 1 house accessories battery and 2 trolling motor batteries(24v) do you need a 4 bank charger? Also does the charger work on a starting battery?
I am looking for the same but instead of it having to be plugged into the ac grid, it gets power from a solar panel. Anyone can point me in the right direction? My boat usually stays in the marina mon-thursday with no electricity. Then I use the boat between friday-sunday.
You can absolutely set something like this up. You'll want a full kit that includes the solar panel and charging controller and if you have a lithium battery, make sure it's OK for LifePO4 as well as regular lead batteries. I would recommend a 100 watt panel or higher. Check out something like this: amzn.to/3qSOCZo or amzn.to/3F2Kifd but bear in mind this is not multiple banks. Honestly I have not seen multibank solar chargers so you may have to wire your batteries in parallel so they charge from the same single bank if you have more than 1 battery. Hope that helps!
My dad has a 2 bank charger for his 2 12 volt trolling motor. He disconnects one of the crossover wires when he plugs it in. Can someone help me understand why he would do this?
Great videos !! I am planning on purchasing a 24v 100A Lithium battery for my Terrova 80 .. Would you have any suggestions for onboard 24v lithium chargers ?
Unfortunately I know very little about 24 or 36 volt standalone batteries and have done very little research about them for a couple of reasons. 1. They are very expensive and would prefer to have 2 12v batteries. If one dies, I can replace it and don't have to buy a whole new single 24v battery. 2. I need to better research this, but as far as I can tell if I have a single 24v battery for the trolling motor and then a 12v main battery, this means I would need 2 chargers installed in my boat - a 24v one and a 12v one, which kind of sucks. Now if you are NOT looking for an onboard marine charger, there are a lot of 24v lithium chargers out there, ranging from $150 to 4x that. The issue is if you're looking for a marine charger, you need to find one that has an IPX rating so it's water resistant and I honestly don't see too many available. Noco has a heavy duty 24v charger that is IP66 rated (water proof) and you can check that out at amzn.to/3Jksdwa but it's pretty pricey! My advice would be call up the battery manufacturer you're going with and ask them what they recommend and then look up reviews online of whatever charger they're telling you to go with. Again, the big difference is do you want an onboard charger or something that you connect/disconnect each time you need to charge the battery. Hope that helps!
Awesome Vid! Thinking of getting this but wanting to know if it can be used to help have a charged back up battery and run a power inverter off of that second battery. Let me know if you think this would be able to help with me. Thanks!
Hi Tony, yes this would absolutely work! So if you have 1 main battery and you want a backup second battery, you need to buy the 2 bank version of this charger. You will have 2 sets of wires, 1 for each battery and you can also have the inverter hooked up. You'll need to wire a battery switch that allows you to select which battery is powering your boat (or RV etc) so you can easily switch from the main battery to the backup. Hope that helps!
When you first plug it in, it does a system check and analysis, which takes a few minutes and the light pulses blue. After that it should go red in to charge mode. Have you let it sit for 5 minutes with the pulsing blue and it still doesn't move to the next phase?
@@DanRichardFishing I had bass pro install this and it did the same thing. Always flashed blue. I called customer service and they said all had to be connected. I put the extra cables on my trolling motor battery per customer service and it works great.
I'm looking to install one on my boat and your video is very helpful. What if I bought a 3 bank charger, but only used 2 until I decided to add another battery, or decided not too, what would you suggest to do with the extra bank wires? Or would that be dangerous to have the extra bank wires unused?
The charger will always detect if there is a battery connected to each bank and will not send a charge if there is no battery detected. You should be able to just wire up 2 of the 3 banks and just wrap the extra cable up you're not using and protect the terminals at the end with some electrical tape until you need them. Now just a word of warning - I saw someone mention that on the ProMariner charger they had, it would not charge ANY battery if 1 of the banks was not connected to a battery. TBH I feel like that doesn't make sense so if you plan on buying this brand, I suggest you call up ProMariner or send them an email (they have fantastic support) and ask them if not connecting a bank affects the charging of the other 2 at all. Hope that helps!
@@DanRichardFishing -- hey i just read the manual it says all must be connected to a battery, it said put two sets on the biggest battery and one on the other but all need to be connected. i'm gonna do the same thing
Very good question and no they don't. I'm going to be showing a video very soon of the new charger I'm using with my lithium batteries this year. I'm running the NOCO Genius 3x10 now.
Good video's. I am wondering if there is a guideline on how long batteries last in years. For example I just bought a used boat with 2 batteries. Looks like they have 5 summer seasons on them. They start the boat just fine and I just winterized the boat, pulled the batteries and brought them inside and put them on a charger. They are Excide marine batteries with 1000 CCA. Boat has a single 5.7 gas v8. would it be wise to use these next season?
Great question! 5 to 6 years is about the maximum you can expect from batteries that are not heavily used. Sounds like you may want to start looking in to changing them. You could keep going until you see they're not holding power as well as before but it's nice to have the peace of mind you won't have problems on the water. Hope that helps!
I installed one of these in my bass boat onto a piece of carpeted plywood and the charger went out due to lack of air flow around the charger. Ended up having to replace my batteries as well. Just FYI.
Wow that sucks, where was it installed in the boat? You definitely want to put it in a place that airs some airflow, that's why I put it in the open footwell area instead of in a small enclosed area. Which generation did you have?
@@DanRichardFishing not sure on the generation but purchased late 2019. I mounted it in battery compartment on a bass tracker classic 2019 . Big compartment with plenty of air flow but was told the carpet probably suffocated the air flow behind the charger by the service tech. Said I should of put some spacers between the charger and carpet.
Couple of questions. I’ve been considering this model and comparing it with the Noco brand. It doesn’t appear that the ProSport has temperature compensation to adjust for ambient temp and charging current, correct? Also, how do you select the battery types? I have agm trolling batteries and flooded acid for the starting? It appears this just changes the settings as a whole? Thanks!
Great questions you definitely should be asking when looking at a charger! I don't know about "compensation" per say but it does have built-in over-voltage, overload, over-temperature, reverse polarity and ignition protection so it will cut off charging to avoid damaging batteries on the charger in those cases. For more specific information, I would give them a call and just ask, I found their customer service to be very responsive. For the battery type, this gen 3 model is totally auto-detect, so you don't have to set anything in terms of the battery type. But do be aware, these models are not suitable for LiFePO4 (Lithium) batteries. Hope that helps and thanks for the questions!
@@DanRichardFishing I bought a 3 bank was planning to put another battery in but havnt got the chance to so I was wondering will it work if I just use 2 bank for now? Will it still charge if only 2 are hook up?
Thank you for touching on 12v trolling motors and battery’s. I have a 12v trolling motor and am about to add a second battery in parallel for longer life and was wondering if I could still use my 2 bank battery charger. Do you have a video showing how to properly parallel 2 batteries for a 12v trolling motor? I have read how to properly do this but it nice to see it done!
This is correct, but I called ProMariner and asked if it would be OK in an open area and not enclosed in any way and said it would be fine. At first I was paranoid and would check it often to see if it was too hot and honestly it never got anywhere CLOSE to being too hot to touch.
ok, so i jumped from the one video , install breaker , for your 24 foot trolling motor, to this video, when you linked it . in the first video , i noticed you had extra wires you didn't explain . those wires were charging wires . i have 2 banks in my battery area , but would prefer to use 1 . can one bank charge both batteries , if so, what's that hook up ? and if you need to use both banks . is it one bank to each battery , pos pos, neg neg ? i'm slightly confused and about to hit this project as i write , thanks, john.
Hi JJ, I actually talk about that right round the 1:50 mark of the video - you should always have 1 bank per battery no matter if you have your batteries wired in a series or parallel. This is because these intelligent bank chargers actually run diagnostics on your batteries so if you get any kind of error and you have 1 bank wired to two batteries in parallel, you will have no clue which one has the issue. Or worse yet, you could have 1 battery in your parallel setup that is toast and one that is fine and the charger doesn't detect it until you realize you only have have the charge capacity and you lose power out on the water. So you need 1 bank per battery and neg to neg and pos to pos on each one :) Hope that helps but of course feel free to ask me any questions :) Good luck with your project!
that makes sense , thanks ! would you run a fish finder on that same system ? i had 2 batteries in the front of my boat , 1 for the finder , another for the trolling motor . just bought another battery . for the 24 volt trolling motor , so i have 3 up there , but only 2 banks to charge with ? i could always use a separate charger if need be. but just thought i'd ask. figure finders dont use much power . i'm the guy who buys a 2500 dollar 30 yr old bass boat , and throws a 200o trolling motor on it,lol. thanks for the help Dan !
@@jjcrocks Hahah I hear ya! I'm pretty sure I paid more for my graphs and trolling motor than the rest of the boat as well and I have some big upgrades coming soon! As for the graph you need to run it from the battery that is NOT connected to your trolling motor otherwise you'll likely get interference all over your screen every time you press on the pedal and engage the trolling motor. Always use a separate battery for your electronics :)
Dan, You wired your 3 bank ProMariner charger wrong. Charger bank 3 needs to be wired to your engine/starter/house battery. 1 and 2 are for your 24 volt, non engine, deep cycle trolling motor bank. If you watch your video, the silver tag on bank 3 wire instructs you to connect to engine bank. Tossing the instructions over your shoulder is never a good idea. Come-on MAN!
Lol I'll have to rewatch the video I didn't notice it. When you're filming and trying to do work, it's tough and when you reshoot things several times you may not notice it. Like for example you'll film something in one shot and it was good, you review the video and it was blurry. ARG! So you redo it a few times and this was filmed when I just got my new camera so I was having a hell of a time with it. I do remember taking note of the main starter wire when I installed it and I just checked because I'm sure it's wired fine and I do have it on the main battery at the back. Definitely don't need the instructions anymore, I've wired a bunch of these now, 2 on my boat and a few for other fishing friends. I always try to be careful when shooting how-tos but it's tough juggling the job at hand + shooting good shots. I'll be doing another bank charger install video in 2022 for lithium so I'll be sure to point out the main wire ;)
To be honest I'm not sold on this at all. Charging the old way is not that hard and all I'm hearing in this video is more weight and more holes drilled in the boat. Sure it makes charging easier in the long run. But more weight and more holes drilled doesn't seem like an even trade off. No thanks.
In all honesty, either you're the most patient person in the world or you don't fish that much... This saves you a ton of time when you get home or when you go to leave for fishing and it's 1,000% worth it. There isn't even such a thing as a professionally rigged boat that does not have a bank charger built into it. To each his own but this is absolutely worth drilling three holes and a few screws. I've never in my life heard of someone regretting installing a bank charger on their boat. You also must not travel with your boat too much either because then you would be leaving your compartments unlocked and open to run all of your charging wires and clamps instead of locking them up when you're not around your boat.
I fish a ton. Still over time, this new product that new product this upgrade that up grade drill this hole drill that hole. A lot of people are thrilled about turning their boats into Swiss cheese over time. Same product why would that company change the hole mounts I wouldn't buy it just for that. I have the gen 3 I wouldn't buy the 4 just for that simple change. But it's the individual's choice. Not knocking the video at all it's a good idea how you installed it. Just not what I'm looking for.
Well most boats these days have conduit running to all the battery compartments so hole drilling is getting to be less and less of an issue. For my install of this newer one, I got it for an amazing prize and I had so many people asking me to do a video about a charger install that I figured I would go ahead and do it. I re-used the larger holes for the cable and 2 of the screw holes so I really didn't add much more to the cheese ;) I do however have to upgrade again as I am going all lithium this year... yikes!
Actually the concern in that case would be the 515 receptacle in which case if it's in your garage you probably shouldn't have to worry about it being waterproof or if it's dockside or otherwise it would be GFI protected so again not a concern. The waterproof feature, or as you want to be anal about it, water resistant feature is that the unit can be completely submerged without damaging it, which is obviously the primary concern when it comes to an onboard bank charger. Also this video is pretty old and even just a couple of years ago it was not prevalent to have lithium batteries and there's still millions of boats that don't, so this product is still relevant.
Ah ye ole' anal. Yes, call it that if you want. Simple truth is, any false claims should be a red flag period. Call it Chinglish, call it old. The fact is there is a gross misrepresentation on the face. Garbage. Nothing is waterproof.
Hope you guys enjoy this install video! I had so many people asking me about what charger I used and how did I install it, so out with the old, in with the new! Tight lines everyone, more boat goodies coming soon 👊🎣🛠
Thanks Dan, in you current mounting location, how are you able to monitor your gauges?
@@markresch2898 when I'm not in the boat and standing next to it I can see the gauges perfectly :)
Here I just went out into the garage and took a photo: ibb.co/5kq78Vc
@@DanRichardFishing Fantastic! you're awesome!
@@markresch2898 Haha thanks, I'm also a dumbass more often than I should, but I try! :)
I had watched multiple videos and was hung up on having the charger hooked up on different batteries on a 24 V system then my brain kicked in and reminded me that you are charging with amps dummy! Good video thanks!
Double check your instructions some of these chargers say do not install on carpet.
I replaced a dealer installed Bass Pro XPS 20A/3B with this very one. The hardest part was drilling new screw holes. After that, it was plug and play. Thank you for making these videos. I also have a Minn Kota 24V trolling motor as well. Please accept my super thanks.
The bass pro one is made by the same company as this. Literally the exact same thing just different buttons. Look at your warranty card to where the bass pro has to be sent to.
The Florida pool pump motor repair guy approved ! that was good info Dan
haha excellent, glad I got the seal of approval, thank you! :)
Man I just found your channel and I’m so glad I did. Just bought a boat with more issues than what I had initially thought it was going to have. This video and your trolling motor install video are really great and are really going to help me out. Thanks for the content, definitely will be following from now on
Thanks Dan, I truly appreciate these videos. Between this video and the 24v connections you have saved me big times. If you ever come to GA beers are on me
You're very welcome! I'm adding your name to places to visit when the borders open back up! ;)
Great video mate, just one important point, given the heat that can be generated by these chargers the units should be mounted direct to a fibreglass or aluminium panel.
I noticed you installed yours over your nylon carpet that is quite flammable.
Just a geeky point but check the manufacturers install instructions as they do make reference to this very point.
Keep up the good work
Cheers
You are correct that you need to be conscious of where you're installing it however I did contact the manufacturer ahead of time and showed them photos of my installation and they said because it's in a well-vented area and not enclosed it was completely fine. On my boat the only bare sections are in small compartments which presented a bigger danger because you're not supposed to put them in enclosed compartments with no ventilation.
To your point though, it is very important that if you're not sure where to install or have any questions, don't be afraid to contact the manufacturer like I did. Thanks for the comment! 👍
Dan: Thanks a lot for this video. It Provided a lot of use full information.
Thanks for sharing your video, I had an idea as to how to hook something like this up and your video just made it that much clearer and your attention to detail is awesome!! Safety first especially on the water!! Thanks again! :)
Well thank you so much, really appreciate the kind words :) All the best!
I have an older pro Sport two bank. I run three batteries. Two series 27 in parallel and a series 24 cranking battery. I ran a longer negative wire to my second 27 series and the positive to the first one.
It charges fine.
You can absolutely do that and get away with it no problem, the issue with doing that is the battery diagnostics the bank charger does (assuming yours does this) become useless because it can no longer load test the individual batteries. But other than that, it will definitely charge your setup :)
Im trying to figure out my 3 bank with 4 batteries. I have 2 starter batteries wired through a switch in parallel.
Right on Dan. Thanks for quickly responding. I just installed the HD20Plus on my boat yesterday. Glad you know. All the manufacturers have subtle differences. I had installed an MK 330 PC (manufactured in 2020) last year. It has fried 2 new batteries (plus the original battery)=3! on bank 2 and Minn Kota REFUSES to acknowledge my warranty claim. (Per Scott at their help center). I could HEAR the new batteries boiling in both cases. BEWARE Minn Kota. They will gaslight you over the phone and tell you it is YOUR problem. So disappointed. Love your channel.
Wow that's crazy! Those MK chargers are premium pricing, sounds like they were overcharging your batteries! When you overcharge and send too much amperage or voltage, the battery will start to off-gas and bubble because the excessive power is breaking down the electrolyte in each of the cells. And as you saw, if you don't catch it and figure out what the issue is, it will eventually kill the battery. Sorry you're dealing with that, that sucks :( I'd keep pressuring them to be honest...
My CS experience with MK isn't great either. They refused to admit the interference issues on my TM are directly due to an issue with the design of the motor and not due to an external factor. Even the authorized repair center for MK told me this is a design flaw in that model. One of the reasons why I decided to stick to Garmin equipment and not go with HB's MEGA platform. I'll also be moving to the Garmin Force TM soon.
@@DanRichardFishing It's BS.....but the time involved etc. is not worth it to me. I have heard stellar reviews of ProMariner....gonna cut my losses and start anew. Albeit I will bag on MK PC chargers to all my fishing buddies from here on out. Word of mouth can be cathartic.
Hi Dan , I have a Gen 5 on my Lund and it is all I need . Long extension cord. Over night
Just having a bank charger in general is SUCH a time saver. I still have people that argue there's no need and I'm like... you don't know what you're missing lol!
Mah boi Dan! Thanks and cheers
hahah my pleasure! :)
Dan. Just wanted to say thanks for explaining everything in such a way that is simple and to the point. I have watched over a dozen wiring videos and yours is the best and easiest to follow!
Well done Dan... the only thing I would've done is to Ty-Wrap (zip tie) the excess wire in your battery box... it's just my OCD that makes me do things like that... Lol
Haha fear not!! at the end of the video I mentioned that the last thing to do is get some tie wraps and organize all the wires and don't worry that included the battery compartment 🤣🤣
@@DanRichardFishing Gotcha!... I must've missed that part... Lol
1) If your boat is outside, what kind of extension cord do you use, that is, any specific AMP extension cord? 2) If you have a fridge in the boat, can you allow the fridge to be running non-stop and cold with the house battery on? Thanks...
Another great video!
Thanks so much Jason!
Thanks for your video. In the instructions it says not to install it behind carpet. Air has to flow through to cool the fins.
Thanks. Great education. Very thorough
good job parther. thanks.
You're very welcome!
Brilliant video content - thank you.
The least amount of Runs as possible
Best get the Pepto Bismol to dry up them Runs!!❤😊
The only thing I’m thinking about is getting on the water and feeling a fish take the bait👍
I haven't fished in months... I'm dying to get out there! SOON!!!
Good job Dan👍
Thanks John! :)
Hahaha!! “I like lights, what can I tell y’a”
I like shiny things 😎
Cool video!! One useful tip. The difference between waterproof and submersible night and day. When ever you can purchase a product for the bildge area I always try and look for submersible in the literature
Absolutely! I wouldn't recommend installing these in your bilge area either way. Also they don't really say waterproof or submersible anymore, you have to look at the IP rating. For example IP68 is "deemed fit enough to withstand dust, dirt and sand, and are resistant to submersion up to a maximum depth of 1.5m underwater for up to thirty minutes.".
So after you install it and hook it up to the batteries when you plug it into the wall you can plug it and forget it till next time you take out the boat you never have to unplug it after a week or two or a month ..it's a plug it into the house and forget it till the next time you take the boat out no matter how long and it won't blow up the battery in or house
Very fine video and demonstration of your setup. Question: do you know if there is a 'parasitic' draw on the batteries, from the ProMariner battery charger when the charger is not plugged into the AC? If so do you know the amperage of the parasitic draw from the batteries? Thank you! Greg
There should not be, all the status lights etc are all shut off and monitoring is disabled when unplugged. With that said, I am not 100% sure if there is a small draw as my boat is always plugged and I no longer run a Promariner now that I run Lithium. I would give their awesome customer service a call to be sure.
Very well done
Gday from Australia, great video mate. 1 question, I have similar set up with 24v (2x100ah lithium) and a lead acid starter batt (12v). Will this charger manage both lithium and lead acid at the same time or do they need to all be the same chemistry?
Nice install! You could cut a small slit in your grommets which would allow them to slide over your wires.
Great job Dan, thanks for sharing 👍
You're very welcome, thank you for the comment! :)
“Instructions....” (throws) 😂
Usually I'm looking for them 5 minutes after that off-camera 😂😂
So you don't have to unplug the leads to each battery after they're charged? Like you can run the batteries still plugged into the charger correct? I've been undoing the charger from every battery when I get on the water but I wasn't sure if that was necessary or not
You definitely do not need to disconnect your bank charger leads when not in use, that's what makes them so convenient :) bolt them down and keep them plugged unless you need to yank out your batteries :)
So I just stumbled on your page and watched this video and went to Amazon to check the charger out and it has poor reviews written on it. Saying the charger lasts only a year and the plug is for European use and I wanna know if since you have made this video if you have had any problems with it ? If I buy this I can just drive to Cabela’s and get it .
Thanks Dan, really clear. Keep it going. Cheers Maurice
How did the DIY bank extension cable work out for you? Pro mariner wants $50 for the extension cable off the shelf, so looking to do this myself for much cheaper.
Works perfectly I haven't had an issue with it whatsoever!
Your install kind of answered a question I had about charging these batteries connected together as a 24 V system I see you still just hook them up like a 12 V charger to each one I disconnected mine and charge them that way I take it by your install you do not have to do that so my next question is can I hook up a Nother 12 V product to one of these batteries and it just be 12 V
Oh great question and yes you can, absolutely just use the positive and negative terminals of the same battery. But word of warning just in case you are thinking of connecting any chartplotters/fishfinders to one of your trolling motor batteries - if you do that, you'll likely get heavy interference on your screen every time you engage the trolling motor so not recommended. Hope that helps!
I'd like to see what happens when the battery life is Red or troubleshooting answers
I like that idea, I'll add it to the list of video ideas thank you :)
Has this video been done yet?
Hey Dan! I have a skii boat / fishing boat. I have 2 bank charger right now. I plan on getting a 112lb thrust riptide transom trolling motor. Is it possible to have 2 battery chargers at the same time?
Okay so you mean your old charger will charge two banks and then your new charger will charge two other banks? If that's the case, then yes absolutely you can do that, the only pain in the butt is that you have to plug in two chargers instead of just one when you get home but other than that it's fine :) thank you for the question!
I’m installing this in a two batteries system. My batteries are connected in a parallel system
Awesome, it's a fantastic unit, I hope you like it!
I got it as a gift , but Can I use this product to turn on electricity on my house or at least one room or light
silly question I have an old one and want to check the inline fuses but doesn't seem to want to open. Any suggestions? Got to turn it a certain way? The manual gives no hint
I believe you're supposed to push in and twist counterclockwise to open those ones but let me pull my old one out and take a look. Give me a bit and I'll get back to you!
great video dude , what you did with that GENIS I NEED IT LETS TALK
haha thank you!
How does the banks charge more in parallel when its on big battery? Isnt it just one bank then. That would be like trying to bridge chargers which doesnt work.
Keep up the great work.
Thank You
Thank you so much, I'll definitely keep trying!
Great Video, useful information!
Thank you so much!
What would you recommend for a 16' Tin boat w a Group 24 Marine Cranking, and a group 27 marine deep cycle setup w the possibility of my a dding a second group 27 deep cycle if I find I need it later? A 3 bank 12/24 but how many amps???
(Ive never used a trolling motor until this in progress rebuild...)
The one I show in this video would be perfect for you, but overall you want to find a charger that is at least 5amps per bank or higher. I actually just installed a new charger on my boat because I am running lithium now and it's 10A per bank. Super fast!
Will this continue to charge your battery while you are out at the sandbar with the radio on and the engine off or will this only work to charge your batteries at home?
This setup only works when the charger is plugged in to a 120v power source, so definitely doesn't work when out on the water.
Dan your vids are so helpful. I have a 3 bank charger. I have 2 banks on the 24v trolling batteries. I have 2 starter batteries wired through a switch. Can I use the 3 rd charger bank to charge both starting batteries since they both are wired through the switch? Seems like I could when the switch is on both? TIA
Hi Chris, thank you so much for your kind words and your question! I apologize for taking so long, I could have sworn I answered this earlier but it didn't show up! So yes, you can definitely charge through the switch, but just remember the diagnostic features of the bank charger will be useless because if something is wrong, you won't know which of the 2 batteries is giving you an issue. That's why I always recommend 1 bank per battery. So if that happens, you'll need to hook up that bank to each battery one at a time until you figure out which one is the dud. Hope that helps!
Can you charge just 2 batteries with this 1 and when your ready to upgrade to the third for the 24v trolling motor it will be there? Or should you just buy the 2 bank for 2 batteries?
You can absolutely charge just two batteries and leave one Bank unconnected it'll simply give you an error that the third Bank is not connected but it'll still charge your other batteries normally and then when you get your third battery go ahead and hook it up. Hope that helps and thank you for the question! :)
in your video of you show change the wire, you just plug one of the + and - from the bank wire any reason for ???
Hi Jonathan, not sure what you mean. Each bank cable goes to a battery and you connect the + and - to the + and - of the battery posts.
Cool video, thanks you. From VietNam
I am in the process of rewiring my boat. I have 3 batteries, 1 main, 2 backup battery and 3 fir power pole. No electronics other than navigation lights, ICommand dials, live baitwell and areator, and an LED light bar for navigating in the dark. All this one one battery and the second is the backup to this arrangement. I would like to install this type of charger with the 3 banks. My problem is the 3 batteries are located separately; on under one hatch at the rear, another under the other hatch at the rear, and the last under the center console. Would it work with that longer run from the console?
Great question - you will have to get extension cables because the wires are only about 6' long for each bank. So for example in my installation, I created an extension for the bank that goes to the main battery in the back. So you can either make your own or you can contact ProMariner and they can provide you with pre-made extensions. Hope that helps!
When running in parallel 2 batts...what wires do i layer first? Im thinking trolling motor parallel wires then bank wires ??
Good stuff
My check connection says check connection on battery 1. I have checked fuses no change.
Dan I have the pro sport 3 bank charger, want to check the fuses. these fuse are interlocked in black rubber hosing, and advices how to separate them with out casing damage to the hosing or wiring? looking for some advice before i cause any damage. Thanks,
Why do i get a red fault led on in a new battery? Is atleast at 12.90 when tested. And still getting blue pulsing led. Completion status is only 2 green leds on
That's very strange, does the bank do the same thing on another battery or does another bank do the same thing if you connect it to that particular battery? Or do you only have a single bank and a single battery and can't try that?
@@DanRichardFishing i called C S and they told me to connect both banks on the same battery bcuz i was just using one. That solve the problem.
Thanks for replying
How can you use a 24 volt system on a 12 volt trolling motor or fish finder?
You should not use a 24 volt setup on equipment rated for 12 volts but if that's the setup you have, you can use what's called a 24v to 12v step down converter like this: amzn.to/3vaTY41
It's important that you get one for the amperage you're drawing, so if you plan on using this on a trolling motor, you'll need a 40 amp one like the one I linked to above. There are cheaper ones but they are usually rated to 10 amps and a 30 pound thrust trolling motor has a max draw of around 30 amps. Also remember you should always avoid wiring your fish finder to the same battery as a trolling motor or you risk serious interference on the screen when your trolling motor is on. Hope that helps!
Thanks!
Can you charge 2 different battery types with this?
This is a great question I actually asked the manufacturer this because I said what if someone has a mix of AGM and regular flooded batteries. In this case, set the charger to AGM and it will properly charge all the batteries even if there's a mix. Please note this is not an appropriate charger for lithium batteries. Thanks so much for your question!
@@DanRichardFishing thank you so much! I actually also have 2 Amg batteries and 1 lead acid so I was getting worried!
@@andrewstepp6181 no worries, you can definitely use this charger! :)
How do you light your garage? Great lighting!
Hey thanks! Yeah I hate dark garages as I use my garage as a workshop. So both garage door openers have 2 daylight LED bulbs each, that are the equivalent of 80watts each and then the ceilings have 6 pairs of approx 5 foot fluorescent lights. When I shoot video, I also have a round light I shine off to the side to light my shooting area a bit. I can't point it straight at me or else you're just going to see the reflections in my glasses 😂 we moved here last year and we had such a hard time because I refused to buy any house that didn't have a double garage that was at least 25 ft deep for my boat hehe
@@DanRichardFishing make a video of your setup. Dan the man!
great video - i have been doing he multiple mini chargers for years, and wondering if its harming my batteries not being charged properly or well enough. was looking at this one and the minn kota's and i think i like this one better due to status lights and such, both almost the same technology wise. thanks for sharing, and pointing out the pros, just have to measure and see if it will fit in my compartment or figure where to put. good stuff.
Yeah the multiple charger thing is brutal! Just bear in mind if you do move up to a bank charger, it needs to get decent ventilation due to the heat they generate when in use. If you put it in a compartment, make sure you leave the compartment open when charging! Allowing these to overheat too much can shorten their lifespan. Good luck with your install and thanks for the comment!
@@DanRichardFishing oh yeah, it will be in the rear large compartment but I always leave open when in garage. Thanks for the info, might even put fan blowing in there..
Thanks again
Another???? For you, I only need a 2 bank unit, I have one for trolling motor, and my starting engine and accessories battery which runs fish finders, etc. What size would you recommend?
The 12 amp or 20amp unit
Richard instruction show not to mount on carpet. is that a big deal ??
If you have 1 starter battery 1 house accessories battery and 2 trolling motor batteries(24v) do you need a 4 bank charger? Also does the charger work on a starting battery?
For each battery in your boat you need a bank. For example i have 2 trolling motor battery and 1 cranking battery. So I use a 3 bank
I am looking for the same but instead of it having to be plugged into the ac grid, it gets power from a solar panel. Anyone can point me in the right direction? My boat usually stays in the marina mon-thursday with no electricity. Then I use the boat between friday-sunday.
You can absolutely set something like this up. You'll want a full kit that includes the solar panel and charging controller and if you have a lithium battery, make sure it's OK for LifePO4 as well as regular lead batteries. I would recommend a 100 watt panel or higher. Check out something like this: amzn.to/3qSOCZo or amzn.to/3F2Kifd but bear in mind this is not multiple banks. Honestly I have not seen multibank solar chargers so you may have to wire your batteries in parallel so they charge from the same single bank if you have more than 1 battery. Hope that helps!
@@DanRichardFishing Thanks a ton 😊. This helps forward 👍🏻
My dad has a 2 bank charger for his 2 12 volt trolling motor. He disconnects one of the crossover wires when he plugs it in. Can someone help me understand why he would do this?
Thinking of buying this exact one. How’s it working out for ya?
Absolutely love it, no issues at all so far! :)
It’s a done deal then ✅ I’m sold
@@LarsonFishing Awesome, you're going to really like this unit, it looks awesome and performs perfectly :)
Great videos !! I am planning on purchasing a 24v 100A Lithium battery for my Terrova 80 .. Would you have any suggestions for onboard 24v lithium chargers ?
Unfortunately I know very little about 24 or 36 volt standalone batteries and have done very little research about them for a couple of reasons. 1. They are very expensive and would prefer to have 2 12v batteries. If one dies, I can replace it and don't have to buy a whole new single 24v battery. 2. I need to better research this, but as far as I can tell if I have a single 24v battery for the trolling motor and then a 12v main battery, this means I would need 2 chargers installed in my boat - a 24v one and a 12v one, which kind of sucks.
Now if you are NOT looking for an onboard marine charger, there are a lot of 24v lithium chargers out there, ranging from $150 to 4x that. The issue is if you're looking for a marine charger, you need to find one that has an IPX rating so it's water resistant and I honestly don't see too many available. Noco has a heavy duty 24v charger that is IP66 rated (water proof) and you can check that out at amzn.to/3Jksdwa but it's pretty pricey! My advice would be call up the battery manufacturer you're going with and ask them what they recommend and then look up reviews online of whatever charger they're telling you to go with. Again, the big difference is do you want an onboard charger or something that you connect/disconnect each time you need to charge the battery. Hope that helps!
Awesome Vid! Thinking of getting this but wanting to know if it can be used to help have a charged back up battery and run a power inverter off of that second battery. Let me know if you think this would be able to help with me.
Thanks!
Hi Tony, yes this would absolutely work! So if you have 1 main battery and you want a backup second battery, you need to buy the 2 bank version of this charger. You will have 2 sets of wires, 1 for each battery and you can also have the inverter hooked up. You'll need to wire a battery switch that allows you to select which battery is powering your boat (or RV etc) so you can easily switch from the main battery to the backup. Hope that helps!
Do they make one of these with solar power for the boats?
Ha ha ha, I did not see anyone ssk so I will. If nothing was really wrong with your old charger, are you going to sell it?
I connected everything correctly and it just flashes blue. Any idea?
When you first plug it in, it does a system check and analysis, which takes a few minutes and the light pulses blue. After that it should go red in to charge mode. Have you let it sit for 5 minutes with the pulsing blue and it still doesn't move to the next phase?
@@DanRichardFishing I had bass pro install this and it did the same thing. Always flashed blue. I called customer service and they said all had to be connected. I put the extra cables on my trolling motor battery per customer service and it works great.
I'm looking to install one on my boat and your video is very helpful. What if I bought a 3 bank charger, but only used 2 until I decided to add another battery, or decided not too, what would you suggest to do with the extra bank wires? Or would that be dangerous to have the extra bank wires unused?
The charger will always detect if there is a battery connected to each bank and will not send a charge if there is no battery detected. You should be able to just wire up 2 of the 3 banks and just wrap the extra cable up you're not using and protect the terminals at the end with some electrical tape until you need them. Now just a word of warning - I saw someone mention that on the ProMariner charger they had, it would not charge ANY battery if 1 of the banks was not connected to a battery. TBH I feel like that doesn't make sense so if you plan on buying this brand, I suggest you call up ProMariner or send them an email (they have fantastic support) and ask them if not connecting a bank affects the charging of the other 2 at all. Hope that helps!
Thank you!
@@DanRichardFishing -- hey i just read the manual it says all must be connected to a battery, it said put two sets on the biggest battery and one on the other but all need to be connected. i'm gonna do the same thing
Do these chargers work on LiPo4 batteries?
Very good question and no they don't. I'm going to be showing a video very soon of the new charger I'm using with my lithium batteries this year. I'm running the NOCO Genius 3x10 now.
Is it possible to connect a solar trickle charge to the system?
@@RayHendrickson-f5g Absolutely you can do that!
Good video's. I am wondering if there is a guideline on how long batteries last in years. For example I just bought a used boat with 2 batteries. Looks like they have 5 summer seasons on them. They start the boat just fine and I just winterized the boat, pulled the batteries and brought them inside and put them on a charger. They are Excide marine batteries with 1000 CCA. Boat has a single 5.7 gas v8. would it be wise to use these next season?
Great question! 5 to 6 years is about the maximum you can expect from batteries that are not heavily used. Sounds like you may want to start looking in to changing them. You could keep going until you see they're not holding power as well as before but it's nice to have the peace of mind you won't have problems on the water. Hope that helps!
I installed one of these in my bass boat onto a piece of carpeted plywood and the charger went out due to lack of air flow around the charger. Ended up having to replace my batteries as well. Just FYI.
Wow that sucks, where was it installed in the boat? You definitely want to put it in a place that airs some airflow, that's why I put it in the open footwell area instead of in a small enclosed area. Which generation did you have?
@@DanRichardFishing not sure on the generation but purchased late 2019. I mounted it in battery compartment on a bass tracker classic 2019 . Big compartment with plenty of air flow but was told the carpet probably suffocated the air flow behind the charger by the service tech. Said I should of put some spacers between the charger and carpet.
Couple of questions. I’ve been considering this model and comparing it with the Noco brand. It doesn’t appear that the ProSport has temperature compensation to adjust for ambient temp and charging current, correct? Also, how do you select the battery types? I have agm trolling batteries and flooded acid for the starting? It appears this just changes the settings as a whole? Thanks!
Great questions you definitely should be asking when looking at a charger! I don't know about "compensation" per say but it does have built-in over-voltage, overload, over-temperature, reverse polarity and ignition protection so it will cut off charging to avoid damaging batteries on the charger in those cases. For more specific information, I would give them a call and just ask, I found their customer service to be very responsive.
For the battery type, this gen 3 model is totally auto-detect, so you don't have to set anything in terms of the battery type. But do be aware, these models are not suitable for LiFePO4 (Lithium) batteries.
Hope that helps and thanks for the questions!
@@DanRichardFishing thanks for the fast reply and all the information you always provide!
Does it still work if you only have 2 battery?
Check for my links in the description, there is a 2 bank version :)
@@DanRichardFishing I bought a 3 bank was planning to put another battery in but havnt got the chance to so I was wondering will it work if I just use 2 bank for now? Will it still charge if only 2 are hook up?
Thank you for touching on 12v trolling motors and battery’s. I have a 12v trolling motor and am about to add a second battery in parallel for longer life and was wondering if I could still use my 2 bank battery charger. Do you have a video showing how to properly parallel 2 batteries for a 12v trolling motor? I have read how to properly do this but it nice to see it done!
Check out what was just posted today :) ua-cam.com/video/I-IprWFecGM/v-deo.html
Manual says dont not install on carpet
This is correct, but I called ProMariner and asked if it would be OK in an open area and not enclosed in any way and said it would be fine. At first I was paranoid and would check it often to see if it was too hot and honestly it never got anywhere CLOSE to being too hot to touch.
ok, so i jumped from the one video , install breaker , for your 24 foot trolling motor, to this video, when you linked it . in the first video , i noticed you had extra wires you didn't explain . those wires were charging wires . i have 2 banks in my battery area , but would prefer to use 1 . can one bank charge both batteries , if so, what's that hook up ? and if you need to use both banks . is it one bank to each battery , pos pos, neg neg ? i'm slightly confused and about to hit this project as i write , thanks, john.
Hi JJ, I actually talk about that right round the 1:50 mark of the video - you should always have 1 bank per battery no matter if you have your batteries wired in a series or parallel. This is because these intelligent bank chargers actually run diagnostics on your batteries so if you get any kind of error and you have 1 bank wired to two batteries in parallel, you will have no clue which one has the issue. Or worse yet, you could have 1 battery in your parallel setup that is toast and one that is fine and the charger doesn't detect it until you realize you only have have the charge capacity and you lose power out on the water. So you need 1 bank per battery and neg to neg and pos to pos on each one :) Hope that helps but of course feel free to ask me any questions :) Good luck with your project!
that makes sense , thanks ! would you run a fish finder on that same system ? i had 2 batteries in the front of my boat , 1 for the finder , another for the trolling motor . just bought another battery . for the 24 volt trolling motor , so i have 3 up there , but only 2 banks to charge with ? i could always use a separate charger if need be. but just thought i'd ask. figure finders dont use much power . i'm the guy who buys a 2500 dollar 30 yr old bass boat , and throws a 200o trolling motor on it,lol. thanks for the help Dan !
@@jjcrocks Hahah I hear ya! I'm pretty sure I paid more for my graphs and trolling motor than the rest of the boat as well and I have some big upgrades coming soon!
As for the graph you need to run it from the battery that is NOT connected to your trolling motor otherwise you'll likely get interference all over your screen every time you press on the pedal and engage the trolling motor. Always use a separate battery for your electronics :)
@@DanRichardFishing thanks again Dan ! go catch some fishes !
@@jjcrocks My pleasure, tight lines and all the best with your boat!
You will fry your starter battery. Friend's BassCat dealer miss-wired his charger just like you did.
See my reply to your previous comment :)
Ok... Everybody doing a "How to install" video... Watch this one.
Wow, thank you for that!
Dan, You wired your 3 bank ProMariner charger wrong. Charger bank 3 needs to be wired to your engine/starter/house battery. 1 and 2 are for your 24 volt, non engine, deep cycle trolling motor bank. If you watch your video, the silver tag on bank 3 wire instructs you to connect to engine bank. Tossing the instructions over your shoulder is never a good idea. Come-on MAN!
Lol I'll have to rewatch the video I didn't notice it. When you're filming and trying to do work, it's tough and when you reshoot things several times you may not notice it. Like for example you'll film something in one shot and it was good, you review the video and it was blurry. ARG! So you redo it a few times and this was filmed when I just got my new camera so I was having a hell of a time with it. I do remember taking note of the main starter wire when I installed it and I just checked because I'm sure it's wired fine and I do have it on the main battery at the back.
Definitely don't need the instructions anymore, I've wired a bunch of these now, 2 on my boat and a few for other fishing friends. I always try to be careful when shooting how-tos but it's tough juggling the job at hand + shooting good shots. I'll be doing another bank charger install video in 2022 for lithium so I'll be sure to point out the main wire ;)
If only they charged lithium :(
Yeah it's a shame they don't, I'd switch to Noco if I go with lithium
@@DanRichardFishing Yes, thats exactly what I did. I was a bit disappointed, as I've had ProMariner products for as long as I remember!
To be honest I'm not sold on this at all. Charging the old way is not that hard and all I'm hearing in this video is more weight and more holes drilled in the boat. Sure it makes charging easier in the long run. But more weight and more holes drilled doesn't seem like an even trade off. No thanks.
In all honesty, either you're the most patient person in the world or you don't fish that much... This saves you a ton of time when you get home or when you go to leave for fishing and it's 1,000% worth it. There isn't even such a thing as a professionally rigged boat that does not have a bank charger built into it. To each his own but this is absolutely worth drilling three holes and a few screws. I've never in my life heard of someone regretting installing a bank charger on their boat. You also must not travel with your boat too much either because then you would be leaving your compartments unlocked and open to run all of your charging wires and clamps instead of locking them up when you're not around your boat.
I fish a ton. Still over time, this new product that new product this upgrade that up grade drill this hole drill that hole. A lot of people are thrilled about turning their boats into Swiss cheese over time. Same product why would that company change the hole mounts I wouldn't buy it just for that. I have the gen 3 I wouldn't buy the 4 just for that simple change. But it's the individual's choice. Not knocking the video at all it's a good idea how you installed it. Just not what I'm looking for.
Well most boats these days have conduit running to all the battery compartments so hole drilling is getting to be less and less of an issue. For my install of this newer one, I got it for an amazing prize and I had so many people asking me to do a video about a charger install that I figured I would go ahead and do it. I re-used the larger holes for the cable and 2 of the screw holes so I really didn't add much more to the cheese ;) I do however have to upgrade again as I am going all lithium this year... yikes!
"Waterproof" not with a NEMA 5-15 plug it ain't! LMFAO!! That's BS! Literally nothing is waterPROOF. No Li charging? That thing is so 80s.
Actually the concern in that case would be the 515 receptacle in which case if it's in your garage you probably shouldn't have to worry about it being waterproof or if it's dockside or otherwise it would be GFI protected so again not a concern. The waterproof feature, or as you want to be anal about it, water resistant feature is that the unit can be completely submerged without damaging it, which is obviously the primary concern when it comes to an onboard bank charger.
Also this video is pretty old and even just a couple of years ago it was not prevalent to have lithium batteries and there's still millions of boats that don't, so this product is still relevant.
Ah ye ole' anal. Yes, call it that if you want. Simple truth is, any false claims should be a red flag period. Call it Chinglish, call it old. The fact is there is a gross misrepresentation on the face. Garbage. Nothing is waterproof.