@@nine3sevenyou can’t say shit positive about Lebron without someone calling you an ass kisser or a Stan. That’s the difference, dudes on here act like Jordan and Kobe could walk on water but as soon as Lebron is brought up the hate squad pulls up lmfao
It’s crazy to me that LeBron is so hated that it’s like God forbid anyone praise him. He’s the only hall of famer who that people will act like people are glazing or kissing up if they praise him as being one of the best of all time if not the best.
You must have the brain cells of a newborn 😂😂😂. He has said this since 2017, this is 2024. You can look it up. He has been saying this since he has been playing against him. Man, you need to go back to school
Get off his nuts bro get over it and move on. Who cares if LeBron helped him get the job you never had a friend help you get a job is that what you’re jealous of you guys are clowns on here😂😂
These Jordan’s fans cannot simply watch something that’s about bron or having to do w a little bit of him without bringing up the debate. It’s desperate my boy 🤣
Man, to me watching Kobe Bryant play I can never admit to lebron or Jordan being the goat, when Kobe face and beat tougher opponents and competition and won with less help as far as supporting cast. Respect for Shaq keep Kobe name alive even he knows without him 3peat never happens
Kobe winning with “less help” is a made up narrative. If Kobe won with less help then why was there an 8 year stretch he couldn’t even sniff the finals? Please go check the numbers for the 2010 finals game 7 and report back.
@@fredbrewer8282 not 3 peat but back to back, made finals 3x and I agree to add also with a broken finger that usually puts players out for a couple games if not a series and those rebounds won the game imo bc second chance points were stopped.
Yeah people just don't wanna admit that the GOAT debate is purely subjective. There's definitely a GOAT "tier" where these players have clearly reached. And from there it's purely up to what you personally value in a GOAT. Some people value scoring and Finals records so they go MJ. Some people value mentality and competitiveness so they go Kobe. People who pick Bron either value high IQ or all-around skillsets.
I’m sorry but jj is arguably for clippers losing a few titles. He’s a lawn chair in defense and shrinks in big time moments. He does NOT HAVE G-14 classification. 😂😂😂
I agree. I was stoked when they got Redick, thinking with his shooting, he'd put them over the top. But, Truly Big Time shooters don't disappear like he did.
What facts? When he said 90 players were added to the NBA, ummmm no they weren’t wtf😆 they drafted players from other teams, those 90 players were already in the league, they didn’t just pick up dudes off the street and shiiii
As Pat Riley, you can say Bron is the BOAT cause of his longevity and all, and MJ the GOAT since his resume is 'the closest thing to perfection', that being said, we need to stop the narrative about 6 rings like the guy walked in, won and then left, like he had no struggles, also the Jordan rules like they were a set of rules that Pistons got specially approved for them and not a series if defensive schemes rather than 'rules'
I truly don’t care about the goat debate just have these well thought out arguments on who the goat is and I’m passionate about it but I TRULY DO NOT CARE
JJ wants to maximize careers, similar to a tennis player maximizes their performance regardless of age. Players have to want that. Not all nba players want that.
Truth be Narrative; the narrative; Jordan won 6 rings; listen to a cult fan you would believe jordan came in the league won 6 rings and retired. Truth: Jordan never won anything until Phil Jackson put him in a system and Scottie was on the squad. The truth doesn’t need a narrative. Jordan didn’t win 6 rings straight; Jordan Phil Jackson and the Triangle, and Scottie Pippen won 6 rings.
Lebrons my favorite player and thats all true but its a text book example of a strawman argument. Yes MJ won when they got scottie and phil but what does that have to do with who is the best player of all time. The most effective player Imo if a player is the goat hes the goat even if he plays on a scrub team and never makes the playoffs. Or if a team is stacked with the top 5 best players of all time, 1 one those dudes is the goat, even though their numbers won't reflect it due to their team mates Goat is who is the most effective basektball player, not accolades, chips, etc. Numbers are useless without context, eras, rules of the game. MJ was a better shooter. Greatest midrange shooter of all time actually where lebron shoots 37% outside of 3 feet. Better defender, had russell westbrook god given hop of the screen energy, better 2 foot jumper, equal 1 foot, quicker, top speed indistinguishable, had more moves, better finisher. Averaged 30 11 and 9 when he played pg for 24 straight games. When lebron played kobe in his prime there wasn't much of a difference in efffectivness and MJ is a different breed athletically vs kobe
@@szaret1 what has it to do with the GOAT debate? I wonder why it is never discussed you accomplished more with less? When Lebron had no squad he went to the Finals, we Jordan had no squad he got swept. The East was weak is a red herring because Lebron was in the East like every other team; you telling me Lebron was better than a whole conference? Jordan got beat but HOF; they grace is given to Lebron getting swept by the Spurs with their team of HOF to include the Coach. My issue is for every players downfall it’s a knock; every one of Jordan’s down fall there happen to “circumstances” beyond his control. I wonder if this is a valid question; did Michael Jordan play his position better than Magic played his? Because if not, if you didn’t do your job better than I did mine how can you be better than me? What is Lebron’s job on the court? Rebound, assist, score, Run the team, his level of responsibility is heavier; and I think he did his job better than Jordan did his. And as a life time Lakers fan from LA, besides Kobe, AI is my favorite player he was the Michael Vick of Basketball.
Difference is that MJ, before Phil and Pippen, was the best player on the floor even when he lost in playoffs. Can't say same for King Con. In MJ's second season, one in which he missed most due to broken foot in 1986 playoffs vs a top 5 team all-time with greatest front-court ever assembled (Bird, McHale, Parish) he turned into Timothy McVeigh and torched that spot. After Game 2 a top 10 player all-time that compliments no one (Bird) said "That was God disguised as Jordan." Has a top 10 baller all-time ever granted Bron that type of reverence? Hell no! Total opposite. After 2010 playoffs vs Boston, Celtics players said they 'broke" Bron. Cavs owner agreed cause he said Bron quit in a multitude of games. Has MJ ever been accused of quitting in a playoff game? Hell no! Total opposite. Pistons center (Edwards) said what he admired most of MJ was his resilience of how he kept coming back after getting fouled extremely hard by the bad boys Flint, MI water dirty tactics. And as soon as MJ had a little help (his FIRST prime All-Star teammate) he started winning chips. He didn't need a multitude of All-Stars like Russell, Magic, Bird and Bron. MJ is the reason Phil became a coaching legend and Pippen became a top 75 baller. Larry, who's just a little bit more knowledgeable than you pertaining to hoops, wrote in his book Bird Watching “It was MJ that made Pippen a great player. Scottie played at his best alongside Jordan but that didn’t work vice versa because Pip without MJ wouldn't have been that lethal." Scottie without MJ would have been just another Derrick McKey.
@@katrinachavez3533 then how was Lebron in the Finals 8 years in a row when some of those squads didn’t even have e an All-Star. He led a team that did NOT belong in the Finals let alone the playoffs. Jordan’s accolades only get mentioned; he scored 63. Ok great how many points did he score the next game? 19! I bet it’s because he was tired from carrying the load; when Lebron does that people say “if you’re going for to be the man you can’t have bad games. Jordan didn’t!”
This role player's opinion is as meaningless as carbon fiber spoiler on yellow Pinto in Cujo. He's inadequate like Shaq with free-throws. I'm sticking with opinion of a hall-of-famer aka NBA logo.
@@wesroberts953 How do you know the opinion is divided equally?? I'd say us Long Timers who know greatness and accept reality are vastly outnumbered by young Laker Fans and the Fake Laker Fans LeEGO brought with him.
It's called HGH. Name me one superstar basketball player who has played from 14/15 years old and now 21 years in the league and not had one single lower leg injury. No ACL, MCL, achilles, knee injury at all? It does not and cannot not happen. Mark my words years after he retires there's gonna be a huge scandal.
Let me tell you a little secret, almost everyone in the NBA uses the best designer drugs they can without being busted or causing too much damage to their body. The drugs just got better, the 90s was even more wild, testing was relaxed and everyone had their own stacks, they were doing some crazy shit. LeBron is naturally more athletic than everyone else. Its in the genetics. Of course, he had to put in work all his life to make his potential a reality.
LeBron doesn't play it the right way. He pays off the refs analysis and NBA owner now. To make sure everyone is on his side. So that way everything can go his way. Luckily Denver defeated the Lakers LeBron the refs and analysis. Denver Nuggets shut them all down thank God for that
I dont have a problem with anyone saying Bron the goat cause they have their own opinion.But to discredit Jordan as only a scorer is ridiculous.Not mention they have moved the goal post on calling bron the goat.I thought it was about playing basketball they done started adding his off court endeavors and all this other stuff to make his case.But if we are going to argue who is what keep it to basketball.Whether or not bron is a nice guy and great father has nothing to do with playing basketball.
Shaq is funny. Always done the right way. Hahahahahahaha. That heat is not the right way. But when he returned to the cavs that is the right way. I respect lebron when he got cavs a ring more tham his 2 rings in miami.
@@agent770072 it’s not my opinion goofy no one expect fans and role players put kobe in the GOAT debate it’s only 2 names 4 maybe and kobe not one of them weirdo
Lebron is great just not the best I’ve seen. Longevity stats are crazy good but my eyes don’t lie. He’s mid offensively just was blessed with the build. Idc fg percentages when layups or paint shots count. Outside of the paint he is average and his shot creation/skill set was very flawed. No post game. So longevity stats and his passing ability was amazing but that’s about it
JJ is a kid. Jordan and Kobe are GOATS. He only has longetivity in a stats inflated era and remember they don’t foul like they used to. He wouldn’t be as healthy with hard fouls like they did in the 80s.
Phil Jackson was a CBA coach before he became an assistant with the Bulls and took over the head spot. He was not a HOF coach when he coached Jordan. He became one with Jordan. Scottie Pippen was not a top 50 player all time when he was drafted. Hell he wasn't even a player that could get off the bench his first couple years. He developed into one alongside Jordan. Jordan is the only one who came into the league lauded and on fire from day one. And playing effectively on the same team that missed the playoffs before he arrived, he got them to the playoffs every year he was there. LeBron came into the league as the best player on the team and couldn't get them to the playoffs until year three. Yes, he took a team to the finals. But you can't say simultaneously that they were a team of scrubs and that he got them to the finals. It doesn't work that way. In fact, they had the 5th best defense in the league that year, were the 2nd seed in the east, and they lost in the finals in three of the four games by a margin of less than 10 points. In fact, they lost games 3 and 4 by 3 and 1 points respectively. They lost that first finals because San Antonio exposed LeBron's lack of a reliable perimeter jump shot and he shot in the 35% from the field and 20% from 3 in that finals alongside 69% from the FT line. It's the same playbook they used in 2013 when they almost beat the Heat again. And it's the playbook Dallas used against him in 2011. Let's stop this nonsense about LeBron dragging scrub teams to finals year after year. When you look at the personnel, what they did before AND after playing with LeBron, and how well ranked they were offensively and defensively every year, they were good teams. But it was typically LeBron who came up short. Same with the year they lead the league in wins, something like 66 games I believe, only to get bounced by Dwight Howard's Magic. But to hear it from LeBron lackies, that 66-win team was full of bums and scrubs. Sorry, you don't win 66 games with bums and scrubs. This "we need to attack everyone and everything because LeBron failed!" nonsense has got to stop.
I agree with the Phil comment. He “coached” Jordan and Shaq + Kobe. He refused to coach the Knicks. If he did, he’d be exposed. About LeBron’s Cavs… I can’t recall a teammate of his. Name players on that squad vs the spurs that were not scrubs. Let’s look at the second round in Cleveland. Before LeBron, irrelevant. LeBron shows up, finals, finals, finals. He leaves, irrelevant again. If you believe that he didn’t carry teams to the finals, that’s a crazy take given what I just presented.
@@Samurai31631 zydrunas ilgauskas was an all star. Mo Williams was an all star. So was Shaq the year before he joined LeBron in 2009. So was Larry Hughes. So was Antawn Jamison and several others. LeBron went to the finals with good players. He had the 2nd best record in the east and the 5th best defense that year. His team was good enough to win it. Here's a hint as well. The only reason you know the names Steve Kerr, Toni Kukoc, John Paxon, BJ Armstrong, Luc Longley, Jud Beuchler, Horace Grant, and more is because they were on championship teams. They were all solid players, not superstars. Just like LeBron had in Cleveland in multiple runs. Finally, LeBron lost in 2011 when he had superstar talent next to him in Wade and Bosh. And THEY outplayed LeBron. They lost because LeBron had a second finals meltdown, just like in 2007.
@@MGPCycling So You agree with what I said? I didn’t see a rebuttal to my points. Ilgauskas and Mo Williams were “all stars”, but you are not saying their all time great players. What did they do after LeBron? I’ll wait. Shaq? Come on. He was past his prime. Larry who? Nobody remembers the vast majority of those players. Your hint is terrible. I only know Kerr and Grant outside of Jordan Pippen Rodman. Just admit you’re a LeBron hater. I wouldn’t say LeBron is the goat, but I can see where people are coming from. He’s an amazing player and has been. I’ll end it with this. I despised Jordan and the bulls in the 90’s. Having said that, I’m not stupid to think that he sucked or that he had a great coach that carried him or that his teams were stacked and that’s why he was 6-0 in the finals. I never liked Jordan, but I know for a fact that he was an amazing player and that he was the biggest reason the bulls did what they did.
@@Samurai31631 LeBron had two all time great players in the heat and lost. I noticed you didn't even address that bit of my rebuttal while claiming I didn't rebut you. Shaq was an all star with Steve Nash the year before. And you just proved my point precisely. People remember names when you win. But they doesn't change the quality of the team. LeBron had enough to win in 2007. He shot 35% from the field and 20% from 3 and 69% from the FT line after dominating the pistons. He played so poorly he was outplayed by role players in 2011 who otherwise no one would know. You think Jason Terry would be known in NBA history at this point if he hadn't outplayed LeBron and won in 2011? Please. Stating facts isn't hating.
This is some real BS. Jordan lost throughout the 80s, it was Pippen that helped him get to the finals, and not just Pippen, role players like Steve Kerr (most efficient shooter), and others, and then they went and got Rodman later on to help make sure they kept winning. Even when Jordan bailed on his team without notice, Pippen led the Bulls with an impressive win record for a team that lost its star player almost overnight and had no time to rebuild. Pippen proved while MJ was gone that he was intentionally playing in MJ's shadow so that the team could win, but that he was a star player as well, and simply choose to be a robin to MJ because he was a team player (something MJ would never do for Pippen and you know that.) Is MJ better than Pippen, obviously, but if we can call the heat a "big three" than the Bulls were 100% a big three with MJ, Pippen and Rodman. Same thing goes for LeBron, he was playing with bums when got drafted, and he took them to the finals where LeBron helped them put up a good fight against the Spurs superteam. The 2011 fuck up was the one time they actually lost a fight that was in their favor. The Heat superteam gave LeBron his Pippen in the form of DWade, they went back to back. Then LeBron came back to the Cavs and gave them their ring because he promised them one, and Kyrie was a big help, but without LeBron they would never even make the finals, proving once again that he just needs a single teammate or 2 he can trust. Then he went to the Lakers and won with AD, with some decent role players, primarily Rajon Rondo but also an old injured Dwight Howard (if it was Dwight Howard in his prime they would have gone back to back), a young and underdeveloped Kyle Kuzma (who they shouldn't have traded away but hindsight is always 20-20), and a young Alex Caruso who was starting to develop into the defensive threat he is now (this one actually pissed me off at that time as well because his potential was clear, letting him go when he was willing to take a bit of a pay cut to stay, that shows loyalty, and the Lakers management should not have been cheap when this team had just won them a championship.) The 90s Bulls were a great superteam. To act like the Cavs were ever as good as MJ's teammates is CRAZY.
Will be interesting to see how Reddick does as a coach. I don't sense much intelligence in him. He has no humility so it comes across like he knows what he's talking about. Great coaches are always really sharp and concise, he's not like that.
Someone broke down that team expansion comments like literally what happened, when it happened. It benefited the 80s super teams most. Not the 90s where the Bulls went wild.
JJ AND BRON LOWKEY REALLY WANTS TO DIMINISH MJ LEGACY. JJ is really really really bias when it comes to LeBron. WHATS Crazy, JJ wants LeBron to get six so they can say Bron is the best, and not compare. Nasty scheme
Did you not watch the clip? JJ literally said he doesn't give AF about the goat debate. In terms of winning a chip, isn't that most of the players' and coaches' goals in the NBA? You're acting like he is specifically taking the coaching job to attack MJ's legacy. That's a wild take, my man 😅 We don't know if he is even winning a chip yet, but I can say probably not with the current squad. Even if he does, it won't change anything legacy wise. MJ has already established his legacy, and so has LeBron.
Shawn Kemp said it best on All The Smoke, why are we comparing someone who didn’t even play like MJ? Kobe needs to be compared to Jordan cause they actually played the same. Kemp said LeBron should be compared to Magic if anything cause they both did everything on the court..
If you didn't experience the Jordan era like I and so many other growing up then stop talking there has never been anything like Micheal Jordan on his level The way he moved was just ....the fact he averaged over assists a game when he needed to....the way he'd hang in the air ....his mentality.....when he needed to make 3s he made them he was an average 3 shooter in his era LeBron is below average in his ...his 10 scoring titles taking BARELY any threes...the restvif his accomplishments that he achieved basically in 13 years wit the bulls if he played those extra fee years with the bulls where he didn't break his foot or olau baseball HIS NUMBERS awww my goodness
its true they never met thats ehy ee cant compare and claim one isnthe goat..I cant sit here and say Lebron wont win against Mike if they ever met..sorry to say MJ never faced what Lebron faced in the finals..Jordan was ahead of his time but no one can match him..Lebron's time for me is the hardest everybody can score and players are really skilled its hard to outscore the best teams in this era..
Lebron is Goat end of story he had to face 6 more teams what teams idk lol but what if they in the top 5 in the playoff finals minute's goat james went thru more in a toughter era media will say they soft mostly old heads lol no one ever hear that facts til now...
New evidence just came up that Jordan was getting his stats boosted to get DPOY so who knows how many other years they were getting boosted. #KingJames
Of course Lebron averages 25 or more 20+ years. He just in the game to stat pad not to win. He's not winning championships so he's stat padding to break records. Lebron put his own goals over his team winning. Other players cared about winning and helping their team win. So they took a step back, played a role to help their team win. Reason why Kareem and Parish was still winning Championships in their 40's and Lebron barely make the playoffs. No 40 year old should be starting or the focus point of a NBA team
"Dwight?" 😭😭
😂😂😂😂
LMAO
Shaq wants that views using Lakers new coach 🤣
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@@asimrashid3969any popstar would generate 10x more, he is interested in the lakers
This was way before he took the job bro😂
@@shannonkorff3583yeah he re uploaded it because JJ redick is trending
@@LaRez2lol trust me shaq doesn't upload these videos 😂 this is his team behind this
Shaq: “I never worked out in the summer”
JJ: “Even as a pro”
Shaq: “No”
JJ: “wtf did you do all day 🤣 “
This was at the end of the video.
Does that mean....I didn't LIFT weights??? Or he didn't TOUCH a basketball??
@@fightclub6291 it meant, he did not do nothing to train at all
U know what shaq was doing all day Jj..eating 😂😂😂
JJ knows how to get a coaching job….kiss Lebrons ass!
O please these are just facts
Come up with that by yourself?
Dats Bron white slave 🤣
He can’t hear you bro speak up
@@JK_073clutch sports
Shaq always big ups Kobe man I love it
LBJ pays JJ’s bills for sure
Yh anytime someone says lbj is better then that person is being paid. lol wonder how much Jordan pays you
JJ already wasting no time LeAssKissin'
You mad
Lmao
@@flawless39nothing to be mad about, just stating truths.
@@nine3sevenyou can’t say shit positive about Lebron without someone calling you an ass kisser or a Stan. That’s the difference, dudes on here act like Jordan and Kobe could walk on water but as soon as Lebron is brought up the hate squad pulls up lmfao
This episode is way before he was coach
Shaq was on an expansion team and the only one to beat MJ in 90s
People keeps refusing abt the "expansion team"
Who won in 1990????
I don't wanna get into the GOAT debate .....but I am going to say nice things about Lebron and Bash Jordan's era. - JJ
Where was Jordan bashed? JJ doesn't have to talk bad/negative about someone to make a point about another player. Sounds like JDRider to me!
The only rider is JJ, lol. Talk about glazing lebron
@@melvinf628 why u crying though
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@@trainpushingtutorials2822 speaking of glazing, did I trigger you !?lol
All this kissing up helped JJ a lot.
It’s crazy to me that LeBron is so hated that it’s like God forbid anyone praise him. He’s the only hall of famer who that people will act like people are glazing or kissing up if they praise him as being one of the best of all time if not the best.
@@juju-vl7oj I don’t hate Lebron. I respect him as an athlete and father. Not sure what prompted your comment.
@@Rob-ml3vl I don’t see how JJ has ever kissed up to LeBron ? No one would say that if someone was praising Kobe or MJ that they’re kissing up.
Title should be JJ Redick said this about Lebron to get the Lakers Head Coach job
😂😂😂😂😂 accurate
You must have the brain cells of a newborn 😂😂😂. He has said this since 2017, this is 2024. You can look it up. He has been saying this since he has been playing against him. Man, you need to go back to school
Exactly
this should be you finding every ounch of hate only cause somebody praised LBJ
Get off his nuts bro get over it and move on. Who cares if LeBron helped him get the job you never had a friend help you get a job is that what you’re jealous of you guys are clowns on here😂😂
What the hell is up with those embroidered pillows on the couch 😂😂
No wonder they fired Darvin Ham. JJ seems to be the only one feeling that way. Jordan is the GOAT.
He's not. Fabricated ish is telling lol
These Jordan’s fans cannot simply watch something that’s about bron or having to do w a little bit of him without bringing up the debate. It’s desperate my boy 🤣
Jordan’s fans swear on life they don’t be bothered by Bron but start boo hooing as soon as he’s brought up
LeBron 👑 way better than Jordan don't forget he was super trash 🗑️ on the wizards 🤣🤭
@@lorddj9910they r the weirdest group of fans they like the beehive at this point 😂😂😂😂
:43 let me just act like I understand wtf you saying 🤣
Man, to me watching Kobe Bryant play I can never admit to lebron or Jordan being the goat, when Kobe face and beat tougher opponents and competition and won with less help as far as supporting cast. Respect for Shaq keep Kobe name alive even he knows without him 3peat never happens
Kobe winning with “less help” is a made up narrative. If Kobe won with less help then why was there an 8 year stretch he couldn’t even sniff the finals? Please go check the numbers for the 2010 finals game 7 and report back.
@@2BaSedP0l0Swagq this genuinely made me laugh, 🤣
@@fredbrewer8282 not 3 peat but back to back, made finals 3x and I agree to add also with a broken finger that usually puts players out for a couple games if not a series and those rebounds won the game imo bc second chance points were stopped.
What are you talking about? MJ had to go through Shaq, Kobe played with him til he became washed up.
How is that harder competition?
Yeah people just don't wanna admit that the GOAT debate is purely subjective. There's definitely a GOAT "tier" where these players have clearly reached. And from there it's purely up to what you personally value in a GOAT. Some people value scoring and Finals records so they go MJ. Some people value mentality and competitiveness so they go Kobe. People who pick Bron either value high IQ or all-around skillsets.
Had some WHAT ta ya ?! lol
I’m sorry but jj is arguably for clippers losing a few titles. He’s a lawn chair in defense and shrinks in big time moments. He does NOT HAVE G-14 classification. 😂😂😂
People used to put the ball through his legs and around his back 😂 he had NBA players doing Hot Sauce moves in live action 😂
I agree. I was stoked when they got Redick, thinking with his shooting, he'd put them over the top. But, Truly Big Time shooters don't disappear like he did.
So Chris Paul and Blake getting hurt every year isn’t the main reason? Casuals 😂
bruh this the most youtube algorithm busting video title in a minute lmao shaq out here lookin like he grew up in the youtube gen lmao
And the 2024 jock sniffer award goes to………………. JJ Redick 🎉🎉 congrats JJ ……
" You played against the Bobcats ? " thats crazy to say JJ
Dwight🤣🤣😂😂😅😅
Dwight is crazy work
Longer Career Never Better 2 different Things
Crazy to hear Shaq say he never worked out in the summer but man just imagine how much more rings or mvps he would’ve won if took it serious!
We need Sonics back
I love JJ ❤
Shaq was on an expansion team and they were one of the best teams in the league!
So in other words at Duke JJ was Shawn Michaels in the 90s
Just a Sexy Boi,aaaaw,aaaw,aaw
I like shaqs analogy
That’s an old interview
Few weeks old
Shaq as an assistent coach at lakers... :)
Dwight 😂😂😂
Lebron about to invite JJ to a Diddy party.
Ur mom's invited too 😉🤣
@@yunglardastar5366Dad****
Jj logic are hilarious
Great interview!!
JJ is correct ✅
JJ is right. Multiple teams got added and that does water down the league drastically
Dwight catching strays
meadowlark lemon is the goat.
J.J. is speaking Facts
What facts? When he said 90 players were added to the NBA, ummmm no they weren’t wtf😆 they drafted players from other teams, those 90 players were already in the league, they didn’t just pick up dudes off the street and shiiii
As Pat Riley, you can say Bron is the BOAT cause of his longevity and all, and MJ the GOAT since his resume is 'the closest thing to perfection', that being said, we need to stop the narrative about 6 rings like the guy walked in, won and then left, like he had no struggles, also the Jordan rules like they were a set of rules that Pistons got specially approved for them and not a series if defensive schemes rather than 'rules'
Shaq n lebron getting a chip would've been cool
How do you even say that in front of Shaq shack in his prime was way better than LeBron
His bias and bromance with james is so hard to watch imagine 1 coaching the other lol It’s going to be embarrassing
he will get a tough time from everyone if the lakers are not winning - bron included. could be half a year and he is fired...
LAKERS NEW COACH ??? REALYY ??? 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
I really f .... don't care about Redick Reveals Potential
I truly don’t care about the goat debate just have these well thought out arguments on who the goat is and I’m passionate about it but I TRULY DO NOT CARE
Not Kobe Shaq…literally because of Shaq 😢
Ayo no diddy
JJ wants to maximize careers, similar to a tennis player maximizes their performance regardless of age. Players have to want that. Not all nba players want that.
It works well now he is the lakers assistant coach to lediva james.
Shaq sitting up there listening to this bullshit don’t make it any better
1000%
Truth be Narrative; the narrative; Jordan won 6 rings; listen to a cult fan you would believe jordan came in the league won 6 rings and retired. Truth: Jordan never won anything until Phil Jackson put him in a system and Scottie was on the squad. The truth doesn’t need a narrative. Jordan didn’t win 6 rings straight; Jordan Phil Jackson and the Triangle, and Scottie Pippen won 6 rings.
Facts!
Lebrons my favorite player and thats all true but its a text book example of a strawman argument. Yes MJ won when they got scottie and phil but what does that have to do with who is the best player of all time. The most effective player
Imo if a player is the goat hes the goat even if he plays on a scrub team and never makes the playoffs. Or if a team is stacked with the top 5 best players of all time, 1 one those dudes is the goat, even though their numbers won't reflect it due to their team mates
Goat is who is the most effective basektball player, not accolades, chips, etc. Numbers are useless without context, eras, rules of the game.
MJ was a better shooter. Greatest midrange shooter of all time actually where lebron shoots 37% outside of 3 feet. Better defender, had russell westbrook god given hop of the screen energy, better 2 foot jumper, equal 1 foot, quicker, top speed indistinguishable, had more moves, better finisher. Averaged 30 11 and 9 when he played pg for 24 straight games.
When lebron played kobe in his prime there wasn't much of a difference in efffectivness and MJ is a different breed athletically vs kobe
@@szaret1 what has it to do with the GOAT debate? I wonder why it is never discussed you accomplished more with less? When Lebron had no squad he went to the Finals, we Jordan had no squad he got swept. The East was weak is a red herring because Lebron was in the East like every other team; you telling me Lebron was better than a whole conference? Jordan got beat but HOF; they grace is given to Lebron getting swept by the Spurs with their team of HOF to include the Coach.
My issue is for every players downfall it’s a knock; every one of Jordan’s down fall there happen to “circumstances” beyond his control.
I wonder if this is a valid question; did Michael Jordan play his position better than Magic played his? Because if not, if you didn’t do your job better than I did mine how can you be better than me? What is Lebron’s job on the court? Rebound, assist, score, Run the team, his level of responsibility is heavier; and I think he did his job better than Jordan did his.
And as a life time Lakers fan from LA, besides Kobe, AI is my favorite player he was the Michael Vick of Basketball.
Difference is that MJ, before Phil and Pippen, was the best player on the floor even when he lost in playoffs. Can't say same for King Con. In MJ's second season, one in which he missed most due to broken foot in 1986 playoffs vs a top 5 team all-time with greatest front-court ever assembled (Bird, McHale, Parish) he turned into Timothy McVeigh and torched that spot. After Game 2 a top 10 player all-time that compliments no one (Bird) said "That was God disguised as Jordan." Has a top 10 baller all-time ever granted Bron that type of reverence? Hell no! Total opposite. After 2010 playoffs vs Boston, Celtics players said they 'broke" Bron. Cavs owner agreed cause he said Bron quit in a multitude of games. Has MJ ever been accused of quitting in a playoff game? Hell no! Total opposite. Pistons center (Edwards) said what he admired most of MJ was his resilience of how he kept coming back after getting fouled extremely hard by the bad boys Flint, MI water dirty tactics.
And as soon as MJ had a little help (his FIRST prime All-Star teammate) he started winning chips. He didn't need a multitude of All-Stars like Russell, Magic, Bird and Bron. MJ is the reason Phil became a coaching legend and Pippen became a top 75 baller. Larry, who's just a little bit more knowledgeable than you pertaining to hoops, wrote in his book Bird Watching “It was MJ that made Pippen a great player. Scottie played at his best alongside Jordan but that didn’t work vice versa because Pip without MJ wouldn't have been that lethal." Scottie without MJ would have been just another Derrick McKey.
@@katrinachavez3533 then how was Lebron in the Finals 8 years in a row when some of those squads didn’t even have e an All-Star. He led a team that did NOT belong in the Finals let alone the playoffs. Jordan’s accolades only get mentioned; he scored 63. Ok great how many points did he score the next game? 19! I bet it’s because he was tired from carrying the load; when Lebron does that people say “if you’re going for to be the man you can’t have bad games. Jordan didn’t!”
Who cares what Jonathan Clay Reddick says. JORDAN ALL DAMN DAY. UNDEFEATED CHAMP.
JJ couldn’t collect those plumbers jock.
JJ would be a plumber in that era as well 👨🎨 🧰 guy said Bird wasnt a great shooter 😁
Lakers gotta trade Lebron and JJ together. Pelinka you dunce
MJ at his Best Is Far Better!!
This role player's opinion is as meaningless as carbon fiber spoiler on yellow Pinto in Cujo. He's inadequate like Shaq with free-throws. I'm sticking with opinion of a hall-of-famer aka NBA logo.
Noooo shaq MJ is a Benz, LBJ is a BMW Kobe is a lexus or jag 😂😂 facts
Didn't like jj when he disrespected Stephen a. But he talks educational about situations. He mike work
When you're a coach of that player who compared to MJ of course you will picked your player. 🤣🤣🤣
MJ is the GOAT
Kobe’s the second
Lebron’s third
How can a "coach" coach the person who got him hired for said coaching job? Train-wreck incoming!
There is no way to know. 50% of people will be right, and 50% will be wrong.
By coaching? End of the day Bron gonna get the blame so it doesn’t really matter
Well he wanted T.Lue in Cleveland and they won a championship. There’s your answer.
@@wesroberts953 How do you know the opinion is divided equally?? I'd say us Long Timers who know greatness and accept reality are vastly outnumbered by young Laker Fans and the Fake Laker Fans LeEGO brought with him.
@@felixalfaro3119 ??? End of the day, LeEGO points fingers. and, remember, 'At the end of the day, it's JUST Basketball.'
Reddick is such a meat rider. 😂
I can’t wait for Lebron to get him fired when they lose so we can see if the energy is the same.
exactly played against janitors
It's called HGH. Name me one superstar basketball player who has played from 14/15 years old and now 21 years in the league and not had one single lower leg injury. No ACL, MCL, achilles, knee injury at all? It does not and cannot not happen. Mark my words years after he retires there's gonna be a huge scandal.
Lmao you don’t watch basketball
Let me tell you a little secret, almost everyone in the NBA uses the best designer drugs they can without being busted or causing too much damage to their body. The drugs just got better, the 90s was even more wild, testing was relaxed and everyone had their own stacks, they were doing some crazy shit.
LeBron is naturally more athletic than everyone else. Its in the genetics. Of course, he had to put in work all his life to make his potential a reality.
He’s the goat 🤷🏽♂️ deal with it
LeBron doesn't play it the right way. He pays off the refs analysis and NBA owner now. To make sure everyone is on his side. So that way everything can go his way. Luckily Denver defeated the Lakers LeBron the refs and analysis. Denver Nuggets shut them all down thank God for that
I dont have a problem with anyone saying Bron the goat cause they have their own opinion.But to discredit Jordan as only a scorer is ridiculous.Not mention they have moved the goal post on calling bron the goat.I thought it was about playing basketball they done started adding his off court endeavors and all this other stuff to make his case.But if we are going to argue who is what keep it to basketball.Whether or not bron is a nice guy and great father has nothing to do with playing basketball.
And you wonder why Shannon sharp said that about you. If you would took it serious, you'd have been in the top 5.😂¿
Shaq is funny. Always done the right way. Hahahahahahaha. That heat is not the right way. But when he returned to the cavs that is the right way. I respect lebron when he got cavs a ring more tham his 2 rings in miami.
Mike> Kobe> Luka > curry the rest of the league > lebron. 😂
🤦♂️🤦♂️😂
Weird
You didn’t even believe that as you typed it 💀😂
@@loganglover4320 hey there’s an argument
It's not just Mike, Lebron and Kobe. Russell and Kareem have to be in there too.
and Wilt, a better athlete than all of them. But if I start a team, I build it around MAGIC.
Kobe not in this conversation respectfully
@@hooligan5381how the hell you gone tell nba players who’s not in the convo your opinion doesn’t mean anything
@@agent770072 it’s not my opinion goofy no one expect fans and role players put kobe in the GOAT debate it’s only 2 names 4 maybe and kobe not one of them weirdo
@@agent770072because he simply isn’t, Kobe’s accolades and achievements aren’t up there with Bron,Mike, and Kareem
Thatwascool
Shaq's work ethic "I didn't work out in the summer." The Guy robbed himself from being the GOAT.
Lebron is great just not the best I’ve seen. Longevity stats are crazy good but my eyes don’t lie. He’s mid offensively just was blessed with the build. Idc fg percentages when layups or paint shots count. Outside of the paint he is average and his shot creation/skill set was very flawed. No post game. So longevity stats and his passing ability was amazing but that’s about it
The league is water down now.
90s was look at the footage
Yep so many bum ass teams and the stars want to play together. Also so many damn kids in the league lol
@@jameskent83690's had Defense and REAL BIGMEN
JJ is a kid. Jordan and Kobe are GOATS. He only has longetivity in a stats inflated era and remember they don’t foul like they used to. He wouldn’t be as healthy with hard fouls like they did in the 80s.
Phil Jackson was a CBA coach before he became an assistant with the Bulls and took over the head spot.
He was not a HOF coach when he coached Jordan. He became one with Jordan.
Scottie Pippen was not a top 50 player all time when he was drafted. Hell he wasn't even a player that could get off the bench his first couple years.
He developed into one alongside Jordan.
Jordan is the only one who came into the league lauded and on fire from day one. And playing effectively on the same team that missed the playoffs before he arrived, he got them to the playoffs every year he was there.
LeBron came into the league as the best player on the team and couldn't get them to the playoffs until year three.
Yes, he took a team to the finals. But you can't say simultaneously that they were a team of scrubs and that he got them to the finals. It doesn't work that way.
In fact, they had the 5th best defense in the league that year, were the 2nd seed in the east, and they lost in the finals in three of the four games by a margin of less than 10 points.
In fact, they lost games 3 and 4 by 3 and 1 points respectively.
They lost that first finals because San Antonio exposed LeBron's lack of a reliable perimeter jump shot and he shot in the 35% from the field and 20% from 3 in that finals alongside 69% from the FT line.
It's the same playbook they used in 2013 when they almost beat the Heat again.
And it's the playbook Dallas used against him in 2011.
Let's stop this nonsense about LeBron dragging scrub teams to finals year after year. When you look at the personnel, what they did before AND after playing with LeBron, and how well ranked they were offensively and defensively every year, they were good teams. But it was typically LeBron who came up short.
Same with the year they lead the league in wins, something like 66 games I believe, only to get bounced by Dwight Howard's Magic.
But to hear it from LeBron lackies, that 66-win team was full of bums and scrubs.
Sorry, you don't win 66 games with bums and scrubs.
This "we need to attack everyone and everything because LeBron failed!" nonsense has got to stop.
I agree with the Phil comment. He “coached” Jordan and Shaq + Kobe. He refused to coach the Knicks. If he did, he’d be exposed.
About LeBron’s Cavs… I can’t recall a teammate of his. Name players on that squad vs the spurs that were not scrubs. Let’s look at the second round in Cleveland. Before LeBron, irrelevant. LeBron shows up, finals, finals, finals. He leaves, irrelevant again. If you believe that he didn’t carry teams to the finals, that’s a crazy take given what I just presented.
@@Samurai31631 zydrunas ilgauskas was an all star. Mo Williams was an all star. So was Shaq the year before he joined LeBron in 2009.
So was Larry Hughes. So was Antawn Jamison and several others.
LeBron went to the finals with good players. He had the 2nd best record in the east and the 5th best defense that year. His team was good enough to win it.
Here's a hint as well. The only reason you know the names Steve Kerr, Toni Kukoc, John Paxon, BJ Armstrong, Luc Longley, Jud Beuchler, Horace Grant, and more is because they were on championship teams.
They were all solid players, not superstars. Just like LeBron had in Cleveland in multiple runs.
Finally, LeBron lost in 2011 when he had superstar talent next to him in Wade and Bosh. And THEY outplayed LeBron.
They lost because LeBron had a second finals meltdown, just like in 2007.
@@MGPCycling So You agree with what I said? I didn’t see a rebuttal to my points.
Ilgauskas and Mo Williams were “all stars”, but you are not saying their all time great players. What did they do after LeBron? I’ll wait.
Shaq? Come on. He was past his prime. Larry who? Nobody remembers the vast majority of those players.
Your hint is terrible. I only know Kerr and Grant outside of Jordan Pippen Rodman.
Just admit you’re a LeBron hater. I wouldn’t say LeBron is the goat, but I can see where people are coming from. He’s an amazing player and has been.
I’ll end it with this. I despised Jordan and the bulls in the 90’s. Having said that, I’m not stupid to think that he sucked or that he had a great coach that carried him or that his teams were stacked and that’s why he was 6-0 in the finals. I never liked Jordan, but I know for a fact that he was an amazing player and that he was the biggest reason the bulls did what they did.
@@Samurai31631 LeBron had two all time great players in the heat and lost. I noticed you didn't even address that bit of my rebuttal while claiming I didn't rebut you.
Shaq was an all star with Steve Nash the year before.
And you just proved my point precisely. People remember names when you win. But they doesn't change the quality of the team.
LeBron had enough to win in 2007. He shot 35% from the field and 20% from 3 and 69% from the FT line after dominating the pistons.
He played so poorly he was outplayed by role players in 2011 who otherwise no one would know.
You think Jason Terry would be known in NBA history at this point if he hadn't outplayed LeBron and won in 2011? Please.
Stating facts isn't hating.
This is some real BS.
Jordan lost throughout the 80s, it was Pippen that helped him get to the finals, and not just Pippen, role players like Steve Kerr (most efficient shooter), and others, and then they went and got Rodman later on to help make sure they kept winning. Even when Jordan bailed on his team without notice, Pippen led the Bulls with an impressive win record for a team that lost its star player almost overnight and had no time to rebuild. Pippen proved while MJ was gone that he was intentionally playing in MJ's shadow so that the team could win, but that he was a star player as well, and simply choose to be a robin to MJ because he was a team player (something MJ would never do for Pippen and you know that.) Is MJ better than Pippen, obviously, but if we can call the heat a "big three" than the Bulls were 100% a big three with MJ, Pippen and Rodman.
Same thing goes for LeBron, he was playing with bums when got drafted, and he took them to the finals where LeBron helped them put up a good fight against the Spurs superteam. The 2011 fuck up was the one time they actually lost a fight that was in their favor. The Heat superteam gave LeBron his Pippen in the form of DWade, they went back to back. Then LeBron came back to the Cavs and gave them their ring because he promised them one, and Kyrie was a big help, but without LeBron they would never even make the finals, proving once again that he just needs a single teammate or 2 he can trust. Then he went to the Lakers and won with AD, with some decent role players, primarily Rajon Rondo but also an old injured Dwight Howard (if it was Dwight Howard in his prime they would have gone back to back), a young and underdeveloped Kyle Kuzma (who they shouldn't have traded away but hindsight is always 20-20), and a young Alex Caruso who was starting to develop into the defensive threat he is now (this one actually pissed me off at that time as well because his potential was clear, letting him go when he was willing to take a bit of a pay cut to stay, that shows loyalty, and the Lakers management should not have been cheap when this team had just won them a championship.)
The 90s Bulls were a great superteam. To act like the Cavs were ever as good as MJ's teammates is CRAZY.
Will be interesting to see how Reddick does as a coach. I don't sense much intelligence in him. He has no humility so it comes across like he knows what he's talking about. Great coaches are always really sharp and concise, he's not like that.
Someone broke down that team expansion comments like literally what happened, when it happened.
It benefited the 80s super teams most.
Not the 90s where the Bulls went wild.
JJ AND BRON LOWKEY REALLY WANTS TO DIMINISH MJ LEGACY. JJ is really really really bias when it comes to LeBron. WHATS Crazy, JJ wants LeBron to get six so they can say Bron is the best, and not compare. Nasty scheme
Did you not watch the clip? JJ literally said he doesn't give AF about the goat debate. In terms of winning a chip, isn't that most of the players' and coaches' goals in the NBA? You're acting like he is specifically taking the coaching job to attack MJ's legacy. That's a wild take, my man 😅
We don't know if he is even winning a chip yet, but I can say probably not with the current squad. Even if he does, it won't change anything legacy wise. MJ has already established his legacy, and so has LeBron.
KOBE 🐐
Hoše JJ reddick puts AD back at position 4
MJ is the 🐐
Shawn Kemp said it best on All The Smoke, why are we comparing someone who didn’t even play like MJ? Kobe needs to be compared to Jordan cause they actually played the same. Kemp said LeBron should be compared to Magic if anything cause they both did everything on the court..
any man that sits like that is automatically unwatchable... Lakers are the corniest team of all time.
NBA LEGENDS choose Kobe
NBA Media choose LeBron
……. Literally nobody but stupid people believe this
Shaq you full of it. You’ve gone out your way multiple times to say Bron ain’t the goat 😂😭 stop the 🧢
If you didn't experience the Jordan era like I and so many other growing up then stop talking there has never been anything like Micheal Jordan on his level
The way he moved was just ....the fact he averaged over assists a game when he needed to....the way he'd hang in the air ....his mentality.....when he needed to make 3s he made them he was an average 3 shooter in his era LeBron is below average in his ...his 10 scoring titles taking BARELY any threes...the restvif his accomplishments that he achieved basically in 13 years wit the bulls if he played those extra fee years with the bulls where he didn't break his foot or olau baseball HIS NUMBERS awww my goodness
its true they never met thats ehy ee cant compare and claim one isnthe goat..I cant sit here and say Lebron wont win against Mike if they ever met..sorry to say MJ never faced what Lebron faced in the finals..Jordan was ahead of his time but no one can match him..Lebron's time for me is the hardest everybody can score and players are really skilled its hard to outscore the best teams in this era..
J.J Redick just a pawn and will get fired soon and be scapegoat for lakers failures
JJ, look at the draft. It’s weak now!
Lebron is Goat end of story he had to face 6 more teams what teams idk lol but what if they in the top 5 in the playoff finals minute's goat james went thru more in a toughter era media will say they soft mostly old heads lol no one ever hear that facts til now...
New evidence just came up that Jordan was getting his stats boosted to get DPOY so who knows how many other years they were getting boosted. #KingJames
fake as shit.
who gots his stats more boosted than LeFlopp.
Traveling, Flopping, assists
Post this supposed evidence. Plenty evidence of James stat padding and getting boosted already exists.
I don't care about the goat debate but .. Jordans era was trash.. haha right..
He was kissing big ass to get that Lakers job lol. LeBron will never be better than Jordan, ever!
Of course Lebron averages 25 or more 20+ years.
He just in the game to stat pad not to win. He's not winning championships so he's stat padding to break records.
Lebron put his own goals over his team winning.
Other players cared about winning and helping their team win. So they took a step back, played a role to help their team win.
Reason why Kareem and Parish was still winning Championships in their 40's and Lebron barely make the playoffs.
No 40 year old should be starting or the focus point of a NBA team
You Lebron haters are exhausting
@@studentofthesaviors.o.s hating? More like reporting the facts......bet they hurt 😂😂😂🎯💯
@@TheSupart91 provide the factual report that he stat padding please
barely make the playoffs??? Western Conference Finals in 2023 and Playoffs against the defending champs this season, is it barely 😂😂😂
@@studentofthesaviors.o.ssaying someone is hating is a cop out, debate the points if you're gonna respond
He ain't the best ever he just kissin azz 😂 MJ the G.O.A.T