The Physics and Speed of Fencing
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- Опубліковано 3 гру 2024
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How much do you know about fencing? For most people, it's not much - a few seconds of quick moves, and a winner declared on the scoreboard. The speed of attacks and hits is so fast - it's quite hard to follow with an untutored eye.
Ukrainian fencer Olga Kharlan not only understands what's happening in those seconds, but also excels at scoring winning hits. Fencing isn't about force. Rather, the ability to choose the right position and distance is the key. The faster fencer will 'step-lunge', which offers more chances to land a hit first. The speed of this move made by professional athletes can be compared to the acceleration of a race car.
What if we put Kharlan next to Alexander Grinchuk’s 600hp #RedBull350z, which accelerates up to 100km in four seconds, on the starting line? You'd be surprised to see who's faster.
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The Physics and Speed of Fencing
Such an underrated sport
I respect it, it's just not that easy to watch. Historical fencing is far more entertaining and easy to follow
I fence so I understand you. I know that it looks much different for me then it does to people who don't fence like my parents.
So were gladiators. Shame it's not around anymore
Who says Gladiators aren't around?
@@minch333 because they're more roleplaying and sparring than actual fighting
so glad that red bull put some time into shedding light on a highly underrated sport
Well I mean... That set was pretty dark ngl
And then you go on an actual fencing video and you see people saying it isn't what they thought it was and how boring it is. There's a lot you can't see unless you're a fencer, which is unfortunate but once you get to know the sport you'll enjoy it.
Facts. Fencing is just such a niche sport.
Fencing is a refined sport. Not everyone likes to go to an art museum, much like how not everyone likes fencing.
I want to try fencing but there's no such institution around here
@@efhi same
The closest in my area is like a 2 hour drive and it can be much to drive there
@Sung Po Alexander CHEN your friend is an idiot
Good guy Red Bull, showing a sport like fencing alongside the higher-profile ones.
KatonRyu what is wrong with u man
ATOMIC I don’t see anything wrong with him
I believe fencing is one of those sports better to do it then to just watch.
Same like a chess
Fencing started as way to settle debates between to opposing individuals. Kind of like those gun duels. So think of it as you debating with Ben Shapiro but instead of Ben saying "boy" in boy scout, he lunges a sword through your throat before you can say "where is that written". So yeah. Better to do than to watch
I mean it’s only intense if you’ve actually fenced before
yes fencing is not appealing to watch at all
@@270901illlichevsk Yeah
i love how redbull explores and exposes obscure sports to everyone :) gj redbull
kmo- obscure?
"obscure"
Cvičení Hanka Kynychová
I'm here because I'm writing a fencing scene, and this just made me appreciate the sport even more. I'd love to do it some day. I love the fast-paced movements of it all.
I’m here for similar reasons. I want to make swordfighting a key element of a story I’m writing, so I’ve been researching fencing and watching matches. It’s so fascinating.
@@sophiaredwood5825 If you're interested in learning something more akin to classical weapons such as rapier, (military) sabre, longsword, etc. try searching 'HEMA'/Historical European Martial Arts ;)
@@baguvixo555 OOOOO!! Thank youuuu
@@sophiaredwood5825 Dont make it on fencing if its a sword fight from past.This is a modern form of swordfighting and it was diferent in past.
@@baguvixo555 Yea i love both HEMA and Modern fencing.
I used to do fencing alot for 5 years, man I miss it
This is the most spectacular fencing video ever made.
that's an amazing sport, the focus it claims, the speed as it mentioned and the beauty of the athletes' move. i was lucky enough to try out that sport , the feeling to face with the opponent was uplifting
and hungarians are good at it :)
I like fencing
Well, I guess it's time to date a Fencer.
Why's that?
uhh did you see dat ass?
Uriah Siner Lol
Uriah Siner, that shit was flat af bruh
Can confirm, fencers be THICC
Source: world #88 Sabre fencing
i’ve been doing fencing for 3 years now, I love it
That...that...was awesome!
Red Bull and Fencing, two of my most favorite things
Thank you Red Bull for making this video
Best Fencing video so far :D
More fencing pls
This is the best video explains Sabre I’ve ever seen
I agree it is a good sport
A .22 caliber bullet out of an Olympic-style target pistol is travelling around 1200 f/s (365.7 m/s) and the air pistol shown here shoots a tiny pellet at 541.3 f/s (165 m/s). Not quite a "gun's bullet". That said, fencers are impressive.
I love this
Thank You ... 🙂
faster than a car with allot of wheel spin
i know, that was the dumbest comparison ever
They should try it with a tesla next time lol. Or something with a lot more torque like a tesla
It works for the mainstream audience, they propably think that it is fastest way to launch. Now dont come and tell me you that the fencer was slow.
You're right, the fencer had better traction control and got off the line faster...makes the fencer seem even more impressive when you put it that way. Which I'm sure was the opposite of your intent. But few of us are driving race cars, which means the fencer is certainly faster than whatever POS rust bucket you're driving.
what about foil and epee? Sabre is however the quickest of the three disciplines, with foil being the most skilful and epee being the one in between
I smell cap my guy
@@vrice896 no he's right.
I never really thought that one discipline needed more skill than the other as I think that foul is about accuracy, Sabre is about speed, and epée is about attacking at the right moment
i'm an epee fencer and there's a lot more things in fencing not just speed. 3 most important are (speed,time,lenght)
@music weekly nope, believe us. Sense of distance is all to fencing.
Edoardo Petrelli You are absolutely right!
Also the element of surprise
For epeeists it’s also counterattacking
thank you
As a fencer myself this sport is so fun
Олечка Харлан!! Красуня!!
Interesting
i like sports fencing, but not in the way i enjoy historical fencing. im into it, and im probably going to give it a try because theres a new club near where i live. say whatever you will about it, maybe it is just a flimsy piece of metal that gives you points with the slightest touch, its fun. and i think thats the point here. i have yet to see a fencer that claims they can win an actual sword fight. i mean, yes, maybe its better than nothing, but against a historical fencer...
fencing is fun, and i wish it didnt deviate so far from... well... fencing? there are so many fixes i can think of that would eliminate so many things people complain about.
i enjoy the two types of fencing differently. theyre both competitive, while historical fencing is more technical and reality based, olympic fencing is more fast paced and competition orientated. also, my biggest complain about olympic sabre is... just flatten it and only make the edge conductive. it adds depth.
heres the thing: historical fencing is more like ARMA 3, the fun is in the details, its very hardcore, it might be slower, but you need to have better responses. while olympic fencing is... i couldnt find any good metaphor for it so: its more stupid fun, its competitive and (mostly) skill based, but its more abstract, it has its own reality, much like other sports. also, i would say that historical fencing seems to be slightly more demanding in terms of strength and conditioning (except for longsword of course, thats got to be like the least physically demanding discipline). imagine doing épée (so its slower), but youre wearing twice the amount of protective gear, and the sword weighs twice as much. protective gear isnt all that limiting or heavy, yes, but GODDAMN that jacket gets hot.
anyways, me want try. but you guys still have to admit, military sabre is way cooler than sports sabre. i also wont tell them that im doing historical fencing and act like a noob, so they get shocked and get taken aback by how i suddenly learned to fence on my first time on the piest. and i also do hope that they take me for a spar right away for my trial lesson.
Well yes, the primary advantage of swords is that they're fast and dont require much force to seriously wound you. This isnt exclusive to fencing, its mostly just because the weapons are very thin and overly flexible. Actual sword fencing (HEMA) or even japanese sword arts like kendo and iado are just as fast, but easier to see because the weapons themselves are thicker and cant be flicked around like a fencing foil/epee/sabre can.
Lol, "just as fast", okay buddy. Both those styles lack the excessive speed training an olympic fencer goes through to achieve these results. We are talking some of the finest and most skilled athletes in the world following centuries of athletic tradition to perfect these skills. Accept that Kendo is a different discipline with different areas focus, and HEMA is a hobby for slightly more serious larpers and history buffs. Thats not a bad thing, they have their own strengths and values, but respect the fact they do not approach the level of speed or precision presented here.
very cool stuff
for fencing, reflexes or speed, which is more important
As a former collegiate fencer, I can say both skills are critical.
@@ottonieman1814 Thanks for the reply
SALUDOS DE ARGENTINA
I prefer HEMA but credit where credit is due. the abilities of fencers are amazing
thanks, always nice when HEMA people are bros instead of elitists, we all think HEMA is cool too :)
Самый классный вид спорта
Да
i fence foil its a fun sport
silvar chariot
Hey everyone! I really like Olympic fencing and I would like to solve any problems in fencing. Can you guys help me out and tell me any problems you have, anything from drills, sword play, footwork, tactics, etc?
it would be cool to see something like this based on sport shooting. Air pistol 10m(shown in the video), free pistol, rapid fire pistol... etc.
Olympic Airsoft?
this is like the game slaps that we played in middle school.
Now have a newfound respect for fencing
olga kharlan is such a good fencer
I'm honestly very impressed with this video
but you can't race a car against a fencer
i cant be the only one who managed to get bruised in fencing
Yup, bruises from head to toe
Footwork: manage the distance
Yeah it happens to me aswell.
I happened while my opponent and me attacked at the same time with a move fowards and a Lunge so we hit eachother with extreme strenght
because of the speed and force we both put into the attack
clicked for the 350
En garde.
Overdramatic stuff aside, fencing looks really cool.
You brought the wrong race car. :D
should have been a 918 spyder
Rx car! Not a old drift car
would of been better using a Nissan GTR with Launch control
+Thomas Alexande 918 spyder is better for short distance
+Badr Haddy IMO
Well its something...
wow thats cool.
I LOVE THAT THEY GOT OLGA IN THIS AHHHH
Now this is only Sabre fencing that is shown here. There are two other forms, foil and epee which are slower in comparison. I fence foil myself and while it is pretty fast, Sabre is much faster and very different in comparison. Epee is the slowest and most easy to follow form, for those watching who don’t understand the rules. If you have never watched fencing before, watch epee, it is very strait forward with the rules. The first person to hit, anywhere on the body, gets a point. Foil and Sabre are based on a “right of way” rule which determines who is attacking and who is defending. Attacker will always get the point no matter who hits first. In my opinion foil is the most interesting to watch as the fencers have a smaller target area then the other forms so they can put themselves in much more danger then the other disciplines. Once my coach got close to me and put his blade around his head and got the point. I hit him as well but he had the right of way so he got the point. All I’m trying to say is that in foil a lot more exiting things happen. It is rare but sometimes you can see a fencer hit an opponent between their legs. I suggest to all who took the time to read this to go and watch all three forms of fencing (foil, sabre, epee) and see what interests you the most. 🤺
I disagree with saying that sabre is the fastest, it is the fastest paced however I would say the actions which result in actual touches are very similar across all of them. The sabre tip is the fastest because it is whipping instead of thrusting as well
Why did they compare a sports car accelerating next to a human.
I mean, us humans are obviously lighter and require less force to be put into motion unlike those cars.
do physics of surfing next!
This is Sabre fencing. The fastest discipline in fencing. The other two disciplines are a bit slower pace but foil is pretty quick as well. If a non fencer wants to watch and enjoy fencing. Watch foil and Sabre. Epée is much slower
The pacing of epee is slower but the movements are not any slower
@@poshnomolbralpku8684 very true
Which one do u guys do
Anyone else a competitive epee fencer?
sabre and foil comp, not epee, not tall enough ;(
I do epee
Competitive, no. Can I build them, yes!
I'm
yeah Im a competitive epeeist
Not yet.
Time flows different for all fighters
Saber fencer whips the foil fencer in the hand as he realizes that the foil fencer has pierced his lung and he will be the only one dying this duel. This is how a real duel would go.
Olga Kharlan
Yep....looked like she was against Mariel Zagunis in one of the early bout clips.
All turbo car's in Sports ! Kkkk top ! I love't
that's a cool vid. Anyone know who the female sabreur is ?
Olga Kharlson
Correction: Olga Karlsson
Correction #2: make that Olga Kharlan !! pardon me
shes awesome
It's Saber
wish you could have helped me watch fencing closer...can't see shit in that exchange
Who's Nissan is it? I wanna see it in action!
Comparing a fencer to a racecar is like comparing a F1 to a jet. Acceleration vs top speed.
Can they hit veins with those saber?
In terms of a thrust, both foil and epee are faster.
Mauwa mo shindariu
NANI!!!! Block Block Block
GO GO GO Ukraine!
TOP
I really want to learn fencing but I have no money to take fencing so I may start when I'm like 17 or 18
Great comparison, a Z33 launching with wheelspin ... 😐 Next time have it launch properly
How fast is the Bullet?
Herr S muzzle speed 300-1000m/sec.
Donde están los espadistas !!!
0:12 why isn't the saber even plugged in?
They're fencing without electricity
that was not a bullet from a gun...that was a pellet from a pellet gun going 1/4 the speed of a 9mm
I wish my school had fencing 🤺 class
i didn’t get into fencing until university! a lot of universities have fencing clubs and teams
1:13 good moment (batty cake)
❤❤
🎶i am lost🎶
Lmao they compared the lunge to like a video game skill that you can use
Wow dod not know this was real, last time i saw this was on James Bond films lol.
Why do they all scream "YEAHHH" as if they absolutely know they got the touch?
Those screams are completely unnecessary. In fact, they're pretty insulting to fencing in general.
I think that although some people find yelling disrespectful, it is often used for a variety of reasons including relieving tension, self-motivating, and influencing refs to give the fencer the touch.
When everyone's insulted, no one's insulted. I've worked the armory at a few NACs, and you just get used to it.
All of what FearAssassin23 said, and also maybe because it's an intimidation tactic to their opponent. And thomas tse, to say that yelling is unnecessary means you do not know the joy of winning a point in any sport.
Well in Sabre no
Jeet Kune Do brought me here
Music used?
they wield rapier/Espada Ropera,not Sabre
That seems like it hurts
Surprisingly, some of the hits I've taken in sabre SOUND like they should be breaking bones, but with the full blade hitting my chest and 7 layers of fabric on me, it doesn't really feel that bad.
Now, a hit to the knuckles on my weapon hand...THAT stings.
лучше бы оставили с озвучкой
Fast fast
No one launches a car for the fastest time during a burnout
ay nissan 350z
hi!
next on the redbull channel: a golf man vs a laser!
I would like to see actual fencing broken down instead of this cool shit that doesn't really have much content.
you could become silver chariot with this.
0:38
Ik zit op schermen
Sabre? I thought it was called a Foil. That is what they told us in P.E. Class in high school.🤔🤔
There are 3 disciplines in fencing, foil, epée and sabre. Sabre is the fastest but they're all pretty damn quick :-)
Saying one is faster than the other 2 is bias. Sabre is slashing while foil and epee are stabbing. Just because one is slashing compared to stabbing doesn't mean it's faster. It comes down to the athlete.
+TCWpower mahalo for sharing! 🙂
+TCWpower yea man there is a reason foil and epee have timers.
I think what he's trying to say is that the speed of the strikes is the same, but saber has so many different strikes it's easier to get a touch where as with epée and foil it stabbing and thus even if the strikes are just as fast it takes longer to get a touch.
Analyzing the video is fun when your'e a fencer your'e self😂