I'm actually so sad to see the 2 best characters of TOG ranked this low after rev system 😢 I 100% agree on your ranking and will personnaly go for Yuri since I skipped her completely until that point (Ren and Zahard doing all the job in green teams) As always thanks for the good work king !
@@dontomby1021 for real, Urek is supposed to be one of the strongest units 🤣 Zahard is the data version tho, so it makes a bit more sense, but he would be hella strong with EVA, it's just that it mainly benefits him
@Conowen96 couldn't be helped it,revolution system help characters survivability or damage wich survivability is not so useful and back row characters are all damage dealer so they got the most benefit and boost from revolution system
Thanks for going into Dara zahard! I'm pretty new and needed a green unit. I was between Ren and Yuri, but people kept throwing in Zahard but couldn't differentiate why.
@@DanielWoods-tx3kg yeah, Zahard is not a bad unit but his R5 doesn't do much. Early on he might be strong, because EVA still works, but unless you want to fully commit to an EVA build that is too RNG for my taste, he falls off quite a bit. Ren will always stay relevant, too strong
My team : Hwaryn(dedstined path), awakened Rak, Karaka, Xia Xia and full charched Viole( 100% crit chance, 240% critical damage) can smash through everything. Right now I'm working on maxing magical pierce and basic attack pierce. Up to 192% attack on Viole + insane attack speed and swiftness
@3aMonolit that sounds awesome! Are you running slot 5 crit rate? I haven't checked how that performs now that we have access to a ton of crit dmg on rangers, I will check it out
Thank you for the video and the spreadsheet i get a great deal of use out of them and am thankful for the updates to it. I was flitting between child Yuri and Ren for a while but with only 4k green, 11k orange and 528 cores its looking like Ren is the play.
@jeieloffenedius2032 sorry man, where did I refer to swiftness resistance and pierce in this video? I don't recall the instances 🤔 or if you just mean what they do, swiftness speeds up the animation of your skills and basic attack, also shortening the interval between them. Resistance let's you take less damage, works up to 99% res, the rest is still usefull to resist resistance decreases. Pierce let's your attacks ignore that % of enemy resist.
i think you should specify conditions for abundance of rev mats.I am at 45k orange rev and 8k green rev.I am confused at which quadrant i will be placed😅
@avinashbhatia3303 mmm you are right, let's say to get most nodes on an SSR+ you need around 3k green ones, 600 purple ones and around 90-100k orange mats, that's what it takes to max most of the important nodes 🤔 45k is not a bad amount, with the right prioritization you could still be placed in the abundance category, I will think about it and add it in the table, thanks for the feedback
One thing I don’t understand is why you recommend resistances so much for damage dealers, i’m on floor 50 more or less and I’ve been fine with just pierce sets for dmg dealers. To clarify, I’m just curious about it for the future floors and such.
@@pimaaa3891 the thing that matters is not the floor in this case, but the deficit. At low deficits the enemies do not oneshot you, so you can afford not to run resistances, but if you start fighting enemies 180 levels higher than yours, one basic attack from a support can oneshot your tank unit. Things are different if you run EVA build at the moment, which is fine, it's just I don't like rng and I don't feel like recommending it. If you still have doubts, let me know 👍
Thanks for the great video cono, but i'm still unsure of who to choose. Is it possible to send photos of my account for you to check and recommend a good option? I would appreciate it a lot.
Currently at floor 31ish, I have 400+ Purple/ 5000+ Green/ 40000+ Yellow Rev mats, 400keys for IWs and Zahard at rainbow 5, Tri Essence just unlocked all pages so pretty far off from optimal stats so far. Should I go for Ren or Yuri in this case? thanks in advance
@@massivebash5376 floor 31 I think you'd benefit more from Ren, it's too early to dump all those resources on just Yuri, I see Yuri more for later on as she is not too simple to use
@@Conowen96 they are both dupe less. Since I have Red Zahard I probably don’t need more stalling potential if I can get child yuri into high killing potential. For context I’m on floor 41. About half way. Overall, trying to pick a unit has been rough.
@radonstone Ren is not a tank unit tho, he is a super carry 🤔 Yuri can get more carry potential only if you have 60/70k orange revolution mats to invest and 400 purple revolution ores. She is also trickier to play, so Ren is a safer choice at the floor you are at I think.
@@Conowen96 that good? Was under the impression the bull turned him into a faux tank, similar to DMasch but needed dupes. I certainly don’t have that many rev mats saved though
@@radonstone yeah, Ren can 1v5 pretty easily depending on how you build him and gets a lot more damage with Revolution, but doesn't need it to work. If you want some examples you can ask in my Discord server, I should have a video I can share with you where he 1v5 at 180 link difference or something like that, so like 25B power vs 1T power.
@@2KEY2KEY2KEY yo man, you either use units that block/reduce heals, cEndorsi that blocks Energy regen or oneshot her with units like Michael with Raihanna
There are more ways obviously, you can CC her with units with lots of crowd controls, Viole with some rng can kill her with the bangs and some more. If you want go over my discord a post the fight and your units in the battle tips channel and we can help you out
Damn. I was originally gonna pick between evankhell or khun edahn. But since I already have viole 3 red as you said, Idk about evankhell anymore. I don't have good set for khun edahn. So probably not him. Somebody please convince me child Yuri is good.. 😭 Edit: I already have Jinsung Ha 2 orange. So do I need child Yuri too?
@ReMeD33 Child Yuri is good, but she needs tons of Revolution investment, do you have that? You could consider Evan, or even Khun Edhan if somehow you can give him more than 99% resistances, he will be super strong.
@@Conowen96 Nah. My tri essence dexterity physical and magic is non existent. So khun edahn will be a waste. I have about 4k green Rev and 15k orange Rev mats. Will that help? For child Yuri?
Small question, at the end of the video you mention that for whales is easier to max out a SSR+ than a SSR. Why is that the case? Seems a bit contradictory..
@@leosparadox9757 because after origin trial 600 you get 90 BM tickets a week if you clear the 30 floors per element, but the sources of standard tickets are much more limited
@@Conowen96holy sheep, time to clear tower of origin. I am pissed that the option for skipping fights that has lower than half your power disappeared and stop visiting the tower.... Now its probably a few fraction of my power now
I'm going for Big Mascheny, she's like a second Kaiser/Elaine who I maxed. I wanted Ren on little Yuri because green is so weak but I can just run 2 purple teams.
Yo! I just copied it over to my spreadsheet, you can find the link to it in the description. You might still want to watch the video to explain why I positioned unit a certain way.
I looked and read the guide. I had a choice between Ren and Evan. I chose Ren based on a recommendation. Evan will get himself together. Thank you for your work hard.
Depends on you, you can't go wrong with either. Edhan needs better IWs so that he gets over 99% resistances, Ren is easier to build to start with, but his more expensive to min-max in terms of revolution mats.
@@warmaschineee4698 that is fine, she will still work but her survivability will be lacking until you get the chain ults going with the energy on kill subnode. I feel you for Ren, shitty unit in the Manhwa but op in this game 😂
If you maxed Evankhell from the welcome banner I would personally go with Ren, then you can build Kaiser slowly over time, which will give you one strong DPS unit for those three colors.
@samratroy4156 yes Zahard is good without dupes, he is a stall tank that survives thanks to his invincibility, you can use as a frontline unit in most teams
thank you so much for including us newbies/newplayers in your explanations were im literally got nothing of those mid-game/endgame materials yet..
Sure, I always try to think from the perspective of F2P/Low Spenders or people that just started 👍
Thanks Conowen! Your explanations help me a lot... sorry for my bad english.
I'm actually so sad to see the 2 best characters of TOG ranked this low after rev system 😢
I 100% agree on your ranking and will personnaly go for Yuri since I skipped her completely until that point (Ren and Zahard doing all the job in green teams)
As always thanks for the good work king !
@@dontomby1021 for real, Urek is supposed to be one of the strongest units 🤣 Zahard is the data version tho, so it makes a bit more sense, but he would be hella strong with EVA, it's just that it mainly benefits him
@@Conowen96 yeah I guess we will have an insane version of Zahard one day !
@@dontomby1021 King Zahard 👑
@Conowen96 couldn't be helped it,revolution system help characters survivability or damage wich survivability is not so useful and back row characters are all damage dealer so they got the most benefit and boost from revolution system
Cool, I already planned on getting Yuri when they annonced this. Thank you for confirming my choice.
Thanks for going into Dara zahard! I'm pretty new and needed a green unit. I was between Ren and Yuri, but people kept throwing in Zahard but couldn't differentiate why.
@@DanielWoods-tx3kg yeah, Zahard is not a bad unit but his R5 doesn't do much. Early on he might be strong, because EVA still works, but unless you want to fully commit to an EVA build that is too RNG for my taste, he falls off quite a bit. Ren will always stay relevant, too strong
My team : Hwaryn(dedstined path), awakened Rak, Karaka, Xia Xia and full charched Viole( 100% crit chance, 240% critical damage) can smash through everything. Right now I'm working on maxing magical pierce and basic attack pierce. Up to 192% attack on Viole + insane attack speed and swiftness
@3aMonolit that sounds awesome! Are you running slot 5 crit rate? I haven't checked how that performs now that we have access to a ton of crit dmg on rangers, I will check it out
@@Conowen96 yes, I'm using 5 slot for crit rate, and some crit from 3 essense and IW
Thank you for the video and the spreadsheet i get a great deal of use out of them and am thankful for the updates to it.
I was flitting between child Yuri and Ren for a while but with only 4k green, 11k orange and 528 cores its looking like Ren is the play.
Are you going to make another one of this for the new nonstop summon?
@@agentp2538 yes I will make a video for that, once we know all units included in that
I just started a day ago, glad i picked ren then.
Awesome. Child yuri it is 😸
oot about summon pick, what's the purpose of the swiftness, resistance, pierce, etc, can you explain or ur already made the video? Thanks 🙏
@jeieloffenedius2032 sorry man, where did I refer to swiftness resistance and pierce in this video? I don't recall the instances 🤔 or if you just mean what they do, swiftness speeds up the animation of your skills and basic attack, also shortening the interval between them. Resistance let's you take less damage, works up to 99% res, the rest is still usefull to resist resistance decreases. Pierce let's your attacks ignore that % of enemy resist.
@@Conowen96 appreciated man, keep going!
i think you should specify conditions for abundance of rev mats.I am at 45k orange rev and 8k green rev.I am confused at which quadrant i will be placed😅
@avinashbhatia3303 mmm you are right, let's say to get most nodes on an SSR+ you need around 3k green ones, 600 purple ones and around 90-100k orange mats, that's what it takes to max most of the important nodes 🤔
45k is not a bad amount, with the right prioritization you could still be placed in the abundance category, I will think about it and add it in the table, thanks for the feedback
Thanks Conowen, I'll go for Ren
One thing I don’t understand is why you recommend resistances so much for damage dealers, i’m on floor 50 more or less and I’ve been fine with just pierce sets for dmg dealers.
To clarify, I’m just curious about it for the future floors and such.
@@pimaaa3891 the thing that matters is not the floor in this case, but the deficit. At low deficits the enemies do not oneshot you, so you can afford not to run resistances, but if you start fighting enemies 180 levels higher than yours, one basic attack from a support can oneshot your tank unit.
Things are different if you run EVA build at the moment, which is fine, it's just I don't like rng and I don't feel like recommending it.
If you still have doubts, let me know 👍
@@Conowen96 thanks, i am running eva builds, i have 1k ok viole and 900 on other snipers.
Btw now i understand
Thanks for the great video cono, but i'm still unsure of who to choose. Is it possible to send photos of my account for you to check and recommend a good option? I would appreciate it a lot.
@@birdie0499 sure thing send them on my discord, I will check it in a bit
Currently at floor 31ish, I have 400+ Purple/ 5000+ Green/ 40000+ Yellow Rev mats, 400keys for IWs and Zahard at rainbow 5, Tri Essence just unlocked all pages so pretty far off from optimal stats so far. Should I go for Ren or Yuri in this case? thanks in advance
@@massivebash5376 floor 31 I think you'd benefit more from Ren, it's too early to dump all those resources on just Yuri, I see Yuri more for later on as she is not too simple to use
Well, this just tossed off my Ren plan for SSR+ Yuri instead. Really feel like my green team NEEDS another potent unit.
@radonstone how so? Ren is an excellent pick in any case, unless you are close to getting him to red already 👍
@@Conowen96 they are both dupe less. Since I have Red Zahard I probably don’t need more stalling potential if I can get child yuri into high killing potential. For context I’m on floor 41. About half way. Overall, trying to pick a unit has been rough.
@radonstone Ren is not a tank unit tho, he is a super carry 🤔 Yuri can get more carry potential only if you have 60/70k orange revolution mats to invest and 400 purple revolution ores. She is also trickier to play, so Ren is a safer choice at the floor you are at I think.
@@Conowen96 that good? Was under the impression the bull turned him into a faux tank, similar to DMasch but needed dupes. I certainly don’t have that many rev mats saved though
@@radonstone yeah, Ren can 1v5 pretty easily depending on how you build him and gets a lot more damage with Revolution, but doesn't need it to work.
If you want some examples you can ask in my Discord server, I should have a video I can share with you where he 1v5 at 180 link difference or something like that, so like 25B power vs 1T power.
Good man
hey dude i always have trouble with lozael, any idea how to counter her? im on 35 4 right now but i still can figure out how to effectively kill her
@@2KEY2KEY2KEY yo man, you either use units that block/reduce heals, cEndorsi that blocks Energy regen or oneshot her with units like Michael with Raihanna
There are more ways obviously, you can CC her with units with lots of crowd controls, Viole with some rng can kill her with the bangs and some more. If you want go over my discord a post the fight and your units in the battle tips channel and we can help you out
Damn. I was originally gonna pick between evankhell or khun edahn. But since I already have viole 3 red as you said, Idk about evankhell anymore. I don't have good set for khun edahn. So probably not him. Somebody please convince me child Yuri is good.. 😭
Edit: I already have Jinsung Ha 2 orange. So do I need child Yuri too?
@ReMeD33 Child Yuri is good, but she needs tons of Revolution investment, do you have that?
You could consider Evan, or even Khun Edhan if somehow you can give him more than 99% resistances, he will be super strong.
@@Conowen96 Nah. My tri essence dexterity physical and magic is non existent. So khun edahn will be a waste. I have about 4k green Rev and 15k orange Rev mats. Will that help? For child Yuri?
@@ReMeD33 the orange mats are too little for her 😵💫 do you already have Ren duped up?
@@Conowen96 yes. My red sitting at 2 orange.
@@Conowen96 I think going for Ren will be a waste
I thought white was the anniversay unit but is it seriously yihwa and fking endorsi?😂😂😂
@@lutr0_679 ahahah yeah, but there is a second one, Yirang, coming out end of the month
@@Conowen96 damn
Nice ! Then Ren it is :D
I just start the game but i have no idea what it mean R5 or R4 or even R3 plz help me !
R5 is Rainbow 5. R4 would be Rainbow 4 though it's not really used. R3 is usually 3 Red.
How many swiftness need for data masch?
@@wellplayedggwp295 90ish should do it, but the more the merrier
Small question, at the end of the video you mention that for whales is easier to max out a SSR+ than a SSR. Why is that the case? Seems a bit contradictory..
@@leosparadox9757 because after origin trial 600 you get 90 BM tickets a week if you clear the 30 floors per element, but the sources of standard tickets are much more limited
@@Conowen96holy sheep, time to clear tower of origin. I am pissed that the option for skipping fights that has lower than half your power disappeared and stop visiting the tower.... Now its probably a few fraction of my power now
@@Conowen96 Oh wow, thanks! I didn't know this
im new and only have kaiser, what priority she is?
@beater9184 she is super good, arguably the best SSR+ currently in the game, but she cannot be selected in this event, unfortunately.
@@Conowen96 oh ok thanks :)
Just started a new account, I took Viole does he fall off later?
@@lazyvenerate7644 in the nonstop banner you mean? He is fine, he doesn't really fall off and is still strong.
@@Conowen96 yup, nonstop
I'm going for Big Mascheny, she's like a second Kaiser/Elaine who I maxed. I wanted Ren on little Yuri because green is so weak but I can just run 2 purple teams.
yeah her welcome animation is good also
She is great for sure and her damage is insane
Hello. Where can I go to see the priority table?
Yo! I just copied it over to my spreadsheet, you can find the link to it in the description.
You might still want to watch the video to explain why I positioned unit a certain way.
I looked and read the guide. I had a choice between Ren and Evan. I chose Ren based on a recommendation. Evan will get himself together. Thank you for your work hard.
Great video and details thanks for me I guess the best choice is Ren
What about káiser?
@@cpasmino it wasn't there for the previous Nonstop summon, I will make a new video for the next one
@@Conowen96 thanks, I will wait for the New video.
I am between káiser and ren for the next one
@@cpasmino depends on your dupes of each units and how many pulls we get, but I'd say Kaiser is the better pick most of the times
Why is there no Kaiser on the list?
read youre differnt answere that she cant be selectet in the event NVM that sucks
ren or edahn?
Depends on you, you can't go wrong with either. Edhan needs better IWs so that he gets over 99% resistances, Ren is easier to build to start with, but his more expensive to min-max in terms of revolution mats.
I will save go for yuri because i need a good grenn dps besides zahard i d8nt have much orange but i fcking hate ren so much
@@warmaschineee4698 that is fine, she will still work but her survivability will be lacking until you get the chain ults going with the energy on kill subnode. I feel you for Ren, shitty unit in the Manhwa but op in this game 😂
As a new player which ssr+ is worth to choose?
If you maxed Evankhell from the welcome banner I would personally go with Ren, then you can build Kaiser slowly over time, which will give you one strong DPS unit for those three colors.
@@Conowen96 I got data zahard from 60 ssr+ code
Is he still good without dupe?
@@Conowen96 and is it possible to max evankhell from the welcome banner?
I'm f2p
@@samratroy4156 yes it is, if you skipped Hoaqin's banner and saved up your summons
@samratroy4156 yes Zahard is good without dupes, he is a stall tank that survives thanks to his invincibility, you can use as a frontline unit in most teams
I chose Kaiser
Not included
@@Idkidk55957 you can't pick her unfortunately