I checked in and out while my son watched this. I really feel like my boi was getting transformers beastwars type vibes. The show was epic for no reason. Off the top of my head Intangibles, reality warpers, genies...low level bad guys have soul manipulation as well. This legoverse is no joke.
So the divine creator, I'm alittle confused about it. Is it's source part of the nexus of realities or is IT the nexus of all realities? Because wouldn't that mean it's somehow connected to the phoenix force? Since phoenix force is creation itself? And also it's home is within the nexus of all realities.
@@aaronmontero2199 well now the white hot room contains the true nexus of realities. And true phoenix force can transcend it. Meaning divine creator would be below TF phoenix i would assume.
Empty Hand is the Destroyer who brings them down one by one. Multiverse by Multiverse. Oblivion is the Waiter, the Watcher, the Ultimate End Result and Winner of people like Darkseid, Empty Hand, even Upside DOWN Man. Oblivion need not act, his nonexistence will come by the infinitesimal actions of these Beings.
Actually no empty hand is something that forces us to put down the comic book which represent the end of that story or fiction. As every fictional story has an end whatever you are reading and for whatever verse you will stop one day and that is empty hand. He is not just another goon that destroy multiverse. He was presented in ultra comic as the final and ultimate foe a thing that will happen regardless u like it or not one day your fav story or verse end and you leave that story behind.
@@kindle184 How does putting down a Comic mean putting down All of Fiction? Comics are literally getting their butts beat by Anime, Manga and Webtoons. And then again, if you want to push this stupid argument for DC contains all of Fiction. Marvel also does that dumb stuff. So there literally is no logic behind arguing anything within a Comic Book company, scales above Fiction itself.
@@omegadeadpool2947 it's not meant to be like that? The Empty Hand is US we are the reason why everything bad happens in comics, TV, manga, everything we start things and bring things to thier end. So it's not just comics.
@@l0sts0ul89 Yes Metaphorically speaking, but don't you see how dumb that is when we bring it to Powerscaling? This line of thought is as dumb as saying any single verse contains all of Fiction lol. And as for Empty hand being the Readers themselves, Oblivion could kill the Readers just by existing. So this matchup is like one of those stupid mismatches Saitama fans bring up
@@omegadeadpool2947 Yeah it's dumb but that's the way it works who's feats are better than the other guys and who's a higher being. Also no, Oblivion couldn't since he Is still a comic character in the end and we are the ones that control his entire existence. Once we put the comic down he doesn't exist, once we pick it back up he exists once again. Idc who wins or not really, just explaing what what Empty Hand is
This is going to be good. Yes I think you were off on your explanation on Empty Hand. The Gentry Egg is a 5th dimensional being from the Dark Multiverse. He is stronger than Mxy who visited the real world. That Egg was aware of the critics and not only that, he stomped Nix Uotan. A Monitor who views DC already as comic books. When Nix escaped the Gentry and went to the "real world" he could still here the Egg's voice. Empty Hand should scale above Oblivion because if Oblivion is considered a villain he is under Empty Hand because Empty Hand is the concept of the next big villain. The Empty Hand also represents the true Reader not a fictional representation of us. It was shown in Swamp Thing that Job Burke goes beyond the dream which Oblivion threatened to that real world not ours.
@@limitbreaker5560 some of what you said isnt correct. For one anyone from the Dark Multiverse>Light Multiverse. The same 5th dimensional egg fought Nix while at full power+written by Morrison. He is far above 6th dimensional. You have to explain why 4th wall breaks aren't valid. A Gentry user was already>reader which is what Oblivion is. Threatening the reader. Empty Hand>Gentry>Reader. I already explained in my comment the real world being used in Marvel isn't the real world. While Animal Man is with the writer he explains no one can get to his real world while in Marvel people just go to a fictional representation of the real world. This is what the writer makes clear. We can also scale Empty Hand above Perpetua because he is one of the villains challenging Darkseid for the great Darkness. Infinite frontier darkseid>Perpetua although we should wait for the new crisis next year.
@@AngelPerez-yr1yi well superboy did that stuffs but scales below Batman who laughs, mxy did it but is below 6th dimensional beings. Mxy is even afraid of Dr Manhattan lol. You are ignoring actual facts here lol. There's nothing trancends the fiction lol.
@@limitbreaker5560 obviously nothing actually transends fiction. I am not talking about regular crises or stories this is Grant Morrison were talking about. He don't care if Mar Novu was already established make Dax Novu. He's the same guy who made Animal man. IF Darkseid is not amped by the Anti Life Equation. He is all his past versions into one. Darkseid states in the same story Anti Life is fodder to the Great Darkness. And the Source was going to be destroyed by the Darksest Knight. The Batman Who Laughs told Batman this while DK was fighting with Wonder Woman.
Scarlet King vs Oblivion (SCP vs Marvel). Boros vs Perfect Cell (One Punch Man vs Dragon Ball). Yusuke vs Ichigo (Yu Yu Hakusho vs Bleach). Ghost Rider vs Spawn (Marvel vs Image Comics). Zombie Iron Man vs The Batman who laughs (Marvel vs DC).
@@thedog1368 I already had this conversation with someone tbh and I already know no matter how much I explain to you how fiction and power scaling works you'll refuse to accept it. So honestly just either accept some things or learn about it on your own.
4:49 dear future reader, this page proves oblivion wins. Oblivion is the final form of destruction. Any form of destruction would just give oblivion more power. Empty hands is quite literally the empty hands of oblivion
I think before even watching the video if this is based on scaling and not narrative in nature Empty Hand claps based on prior statements from you. Damn I was wrong lol I’ve been wrong before.
The reason I thought this was because he said on a livestream that bewtween Darkseid and oblivion he said Darkseid would win and obviously empty hand resructed Darkseid and has plot manip so he scales far above Darkseid, but I guess he was just talking about projected oblivion and chaos king. Darkseid could beat chaos king and projected oblivion like the one we see in the comic. But in terms of true form oblivion could kill the reader obliviously Darkseid can’t handle that Idk scaling is weird. So I guess TFDS vs True form oblivion, oblivion wins I guess. But I guess TFDS Vs Chaos king(projected oblivion) Darkseid would win is what I guess is what he’s saying, I could be wrong though in that assessment.🤷♂️🤷♂️
Empty hand definitely wins. Oblivious is just doing all the talking, he can’t kill no reader. He ain’t doing no action. While EH is doing the action but not doing all the talking.
Eon stomps..... He was able to erase all Timelines with the Chrono Sapien Time Bomb. It is even arguable that it erased other Continuities Timelines (this wouldn't effect those Abstracts of those Verses). Kang's Other Variants all get erased, assuming Kang doesn't find out (which is possible)
@@michaelanuradha-khufu74 nonsense, kangs got way more expirience actually causing term effects on timelines, just as well as having temporal defenses with his technology. He’s also held his own against marvel heavy weights and even beaten them in some instances like apocalypse and thanos. Eons powers cause him to decay, even ben in his ten year old form could hurt him with a stray punch.
@@michaelanuradha-khufu74 Doudt if Eon built it why did he die from it? Plus it's a Chronosapien Time Bomb so I assume it was built by or parts of a Chronosapien.
I hate DanCo and definitely gets everything wrong, but didn't he say that the Empty hand wins? Cause if so he wasn't wrong. This dude is the perfect Avatar for great Darkness,
Yo would you consider doing mcu captain America vs micheal Myers for Halloween? I did post this question before. But I believe curse of thorn micheal Myers and current micheal Myers would stand the best chance against captain America.
The reason why I believe these 2 versions of micheal Myers would stand the best chance against mcu captain America. Is because with cruse of thorn micheal he took multiple bullets and was able to Escape an explosion before it could finish him off
Another reason is because Curse of thorn micheal Myers was also able to survive after being ejected with acid and the is impressive durable from him. I might be missing a few thing but that is the basic gif
For current micheal Myers ( spoiler for Halloween kills) micheal Myers evolved during the movie cause after he got shot 7 times and beaten with multiple weapons and got stabbed in the back. He was able to get back up and get faster cause he adapt it
One of my favorite Genre of comments is people coming on vids that have been out for years, and commenting with new comics that came out after the vid, LMAO
Hmmm maybe he could fight….machiko noguchi aka the human Predator. Not a movie character but she is fairly badass, but I can see ash hitting on her and that costing him getting hit which would be funny. Theres also Burt Gummer from tremors who had guns and probably the best prep time capabilities out of any monster movie character.
Ash should take all the survivors due to plot armor but then again there are several contestants that could win. Ellen Ripley, Dutch from Predator, John Connor, Blade and Riddick from Pitch Black are all badass in there own right.
@@leonmosley2099 Just curious as to why not for Riddick at least? Blade I get, he is a Marvel hero afterall but still I feel on these survivors level with a bit more speed and reflexes.
@@brantcloyd5485 being perfectly honest I haven’t seen pitch black and I assume that Riddick acts the same as he does in the next two movies. If he does then he’s not a survivor he’s an action hero in a horror/dark style movie not a horror movie survivor.
@@Dream-kp6gn Do you really think that? Cause if i had to bet money it would be on the Pre Retcon Beyonder cause that mafk is even more op than the word op
It's what he represents. Oblivion is simply the end for you meaning just choking on a hotdogs and die then that is when it was him. He represents the end of you and the use of you becoming something for a new creation.
But we should have no narrative value for Oblivion's case unlike for Empty Hand, where our actions of demanding for Darkseid to be brought back after Darkseid war has put the heroes in danger in Infinite Frontier. And for me, I think Grant Morrison is the best explained of the meta stuff, so his character(Empty Hand) is more defined with tangible implications to us. As for Oblivion, it hasn't been made clear whether the Reader is the entire Marvel scape or something else, but for Empty Hand, it's the collective compulsion by the fanbase in seeing heroes battle bad guys and the Crisis on Infinite Earths events which cleared up the DC landscape just as the fans wanted, which the Empty Hand referred to as the Multiverse which he destroyed.
Spiderman couldn't beat cletus with carnage. Joker actually has abilities like high pain tolerance to none at all. And joker is by far more insane and smarter.
None of these characters are actual threats to the reader, that's a ridiculous scaling that does not apply to anything. The genrty themselves were a threat to DC's entire cosmology and actually invaded the cosmology from The Outside, likely the Overvoid. Empty Hand itself is the literal concept of the next stronger villain. Now with Infinite frontier out we know Empty Hand is the right hand of the great darkness, the very one that shook the hand of the Light in that truce.
Well then I guess Oblivion is above Cyttorak then since we saw Cyttorak's true form so your opinion on dat vid wit Oblivion vs Cyttorak probly changed. Also Oblivion is above Spectre then based on the consistency of your vids.
I was genuinely confused lol but thanks didnt know Cyttorak said that either. Sorry if I sounded a bit bold I was just trying to find consistency which I know u usually are accurate on was just confused about this one for the first time.
why would anyone take Oblivion statements seriously it's obvious he cant destroy the readers so it was just boasting like all villains do so for me it's a toss up.
Lmao I’ll get that book and burn 🔥 it. What Oblivion going to do? Absolutely nothing 😂. So threatening the readers is absolutely stupid. Bc a paper cant do a damn thing to a real life person.
I disagree. Empty hand takes this. Because empty hand is the concept of comic villains itself. And he is the real life character. And moreover. It's stupid to think that a comic book character will kill reader. Oblivion is end of marvel stories and Empty hand is the reader himself who will decide whether to continue reading the book or keep it down. Empty hand takes thia
Hell nah Oblivion outscales the shit outta empty hand we have sum one in marvel just like empty hand called M.O.D marquis of death who just waves his hand and universes galaxy even multiverse become destroyed and Oblivion Outscales him to with ease bruh
@@A1qg you need to have deep knowledge about these abstract entities child. This doesn't simply depend upon universes and multiverse. It doesn't matter who is erasing multiverse or even Omniverse with hands.. Empty hand is the above all such concepts because he is above the comic book itself. He is literally everything that happens in comic books you read and also in same time he is nothing.😊
@@manabsenapati3996 with that comparison he made i would say he's like 12years old or even less and i don't think it's good to even argue with such child lol.
don’t u get it oblivion is the ultimate end there is nothing more he is a being who sees all and knows all he speaks to the reader like it’s nothing and him stating to kill the reader would not be a lie eternity himself can’t even see or enter he’s domain
DC really needs to get a grip on who the God of there universe is. These abstract and op characters are making my head spin. In my own opinion I'd put like this for an easier way of dealing with it. The presence/the voice/ God/ The reader/ the writer/ the author as #1 #2 The Wrath of God/The Spectre, angels, The Word, Michael, phantom stranger as all part of an assembly of God. Eclipso , Lucifer, perpetua, barbatos, monitors , mandrakk as a lower 3rd place. Demons and weird stuff like that placed as lower 4th. Darkseid, trigon and the old and new gods as 5th. 5 dimensional imps and dr. Manhattan are placed in 6th. Greek gods are placed in 7th Metahumans are 8th. Humans are 9th.
@@Sosadawwg__0 The problem with DC is they suck at explaining or creating abstract concepts, to much power is not even the problem. Marvel has it's faults but the way the do abstract with some flaws are better.
@@theobnoxiousguy3425 Marvel needs to figure out who’s the Satan in the verse. TOBA, Mephisto, Dormammu, Cyttorak, Zarathos are damn near the same person
All of marvels cosmics entities are abtract forces of nature and for tge most part unlike DC cosmic entitys that are just created by DC they embody real life concepts like infinity, eternity, death, love etc oblivion is a real life concept death is his sister and she is a mere aspect of him also chaos king who ended 98% of the multiverse is merely a herald to him. Death is a real life entity. Oblivion represents the nonexistence of everything even outside comics whereas empty hand just represents the nonexistence of comics/ reader ending the comic they represent two entirely different things.
Writers giving characters such nonsensically stupid powers is just laughable. Claiming a fictional character has the power to threaten the reader is beyond moronic. Holds no weight either because it isn't true. It's just stupid and cringe inducing.
I have another question. Can somebody tell who Oblivion is, what are his powers, what can he do and his story, please? Please, bro. Answer me because I'm a new fan of Oblivion. Please tell me clearly🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺😊🙃
Bro oblivion is a character of marvel. He is beyond boundless characters.he live outer side of marvel. You can't imagine how powerful is oblivion his weakest avatar destroy 98 % of marvel multiverse. He is not made by marvel reader he lives before marvel multiverse made. He is nothing less and can't be killed by anyone even writer also
@@Unkownuser6810 oblivion is NOT boundless first of all the concept is that he is basiclly the entity of chaos beyond death and his mikaboshi destroyed 95% not 98% he can be killed but only by the writer oblivion is not god he is just a reality colapser plane changer and dimension manipulator but he has bounds as he can not escape comics or kill supreme beings like the writer but he is op af an example of a true boundless character is the empty hand wich concept is bizzare but it is basiclly multi fiction changer that has no bounds as he can escape comics and be the reader itself
It’s a fight without a winner because Oblivion is the nothingness before and after, even if he wasn’t as strong as The Empty Hand, killing Oblivion would just leave more Oblivion. If you burned the comic book page, Oblivion still exists as he doesn’t need the comic book
@@hemlo6128 bruh Oblivion is gay 🤣🤣🤣 Just shut up I'm a marvel fan Sure divine creator is above beyonder But both are just below ultimate great darkness
oblivion don't have control over his full power that's why his full form can kill reader...maybe other guy got control over his power(i mean maybe oblivion killing read is not bcz of his power...maybe that's what happens bcz of certain power...like kryptonite can kill superman does that means kryptonite is so strong that it can kill wonder woman or Martin manhunter too)
@@bighorn6964 oblivion was before creation and empty hand is going to be at the wnd of everything (oblivion is like empty space before we create anything...so that is like primal monitor or overvoid) but empty hand is readers hand so he can always close or burn the canvas
@@rishavrai99999 that's the thing oblivion wants the papers to be burned because out of him imagination and the multiverse comes from him. He will still be there for when it dies and live long after that
@@bighorn6964 no...multiverse did not came out of him...multiverse is on him...you can say oblivion was unable to stop creator to create things over him..he is that blank paper which was emptiness before creation and empty hand is ultimate evil bcz he can close that blank paper or any comic book
People saying Oblivion does not threaten them then ask yourself this what happens when you die the moment between your last breath and entrance to heaven or reincarnation Wich ever you believe in
So let me get this straight Oblivion wins because he claims that his true form wold kill the reader who the empty hand represents? The amount of brain cells I’ve lost is just mind boggling.
I mean he represents the calm and peace after death to the birth of creation. Multi eternity wasn't even capable of helping against an abstract of oblivion. And even though juggernaut had the magic on him from cytoraak that made him a shield invincible from every form of physical attack but oblivion still kept killing him. He just kept coming back
@@Garth19-06 Yeah anything can happen in fiction. Literally anything the writer wants. If he says a character can hurt the reader if they want to you using "they can't because it's fiction" isn't REALLY accurate because you're going off our reality not the reality of the comics they are in.
It should be like this Monitors>Empty Hand>dark 5th dimension>light 5th dimension>presence>oblivion. The monitor nix Uotan made a plan to stop the Gentry and Empty Hand.
@@AngelPerez-yr1yi the monitors are bellow the source wall in the map, the 5th dimension is outside creation and has recreated the source as well as stated a threat to the presence, nix had a plan and it failed he himself stated that the gentry was beyond him.
Empty Hand: you will never defeat me. I am unbound by *them* Oblivion: *Who are you but a mere concept, a puppet fooling it self into beliving that it has power over the puppeteer, a character made to entertain their feeble minds, you are but a tool to cultivate more power, you are not real. Unlike you I am all things, this avatar of mine is, this visage is merely one of infinite others. I am the rot, the growth, the death, the living. I am nothing and every thing, In the end all things shall return to me once more. For I am Oblivion*
The Serpentine(Ninjago Masters of Spinjitzu) vs Sauron’s Army(Lord of the Rings).
Ninjago was my SERIES.
Does the great devourer count in the army?
chris S.: No.
I checked in and out while my son watched this. I really feel like my boi was getting transformers beastwars type vibes. The show was epic for no reason.
Off the top of my head
Intangibles, reality warpers, genies...low level bad guys have soul manipulation as well. This legoverse is no joke.
nevermind: If only more people would know that.
Does Sauron have the one ring? Are the Balrogs and shelob in the battle?
So the divine creator, I'm alittle confused about it. Is it's source part of the nexus of realities or is IT the nexus of all realities? Because wouldn't that mean it's somehow connected to the phoenix force? Since phoenix force is creation itself? And also it's home is within the nexus of all realities.
It’s literally all and way beyond
His consciousness was stated to burn through the concept of marvel and is above
@@aaronmontero2199 well now the white hot room contains the true nexus of realities. And true phoenix force can transcend it. Meaning divine creator would be below TF phoenix i would assume.
@@vebzuia4336 may ye or mabye not
@@vebzuia4336tf dc wins though
Empty Hand is the Destroyer who brings them down one by one. Multiverse by Multiverse. Oblivion is the Waiter, the Watcher, the Ultimate End Result and Winner of people like Darkseid, Empty Hand, even Upside DOWN Man. Oblivion need not act, his nonexistence will come by the infinitesimal actions of these Beings.
Actually no empty hand is something that forces us to put down the comic book which represent the end of that story or fiction. As every fictional story has an end whatever you are reading and for whatever verse you will stop one day and that is empty hand. He is not just another goon that destroy multiverse. He was presented in ultra comic as the final and ultimate foe a thing that will happen regardless u like it or not one day your fav story or verse end and you leave that story behind.
@@kindle184
How does putting down a Comic mean putting down All of Fiction? Comics are literally getting their butts beat by Anime, Manga and Webtoons. And then again, if you want to push this stupid argument for DC contains all of Fiction. Marvel also does that dumb stuff. So there literally is no logic behind arguing anything within a Comic Book company, scales above Fiction itself.
@@omegadeadpool2947 it's not meant to be like that? The Empty Hand is US we are the reason why everything bad happens in comics, TV, manga, everything we start things and bring things to thier end.
So it's not just comics.
@@l0sts0ul89
Yes Metaphorically speaking, but don't you see how dumb that is when we bring it to Powerscaling? This line of thought is as dumb as saying any single verse contains all of Fiction lol. And as for Empty hand being the Readers themselves, Oblivion could kill the Readers just by existing. So this matchup is like one of those stupid mismatches Saitama fans bring up
@@omegadeadpool2947
Yeah it's dumb but that's the way it works who's feats are better than the other guys and who's a higher being.
Also no, Oblivion couldn't since he Is still a comic character in the end and we are the ones that control his entire existence.
Once we put the comic down he doesn't exist, once we pick it back up he exists once again.
Idc who wins or not really, just explaing what what Empty Hand is
Brainiac from DC comics 🆚 The hi evolutionary from marvel comics who will win or why in one by one fight to dead death ?
This is going to be good. Yes I think you were off on your explanation on Empty Hand. The Gentry Egg is a 5th dimensional being from the Dark Multiverse. He is stronger than Mxy who visited the real world. That Egg was aware of the critics and not only that, he stomped Nix Uotan. A Monitor who views DC already as comic books. When Nix escaped the Gentry and went to the "real world" he could still here the Egg's voice. Empty Hand should scale above Oblivion because if Oblivion is considered a villain he is under Empty Hand because Empty Hand is the concept of the next big villain. The Empty Hand also represents the true Reader not a fictional representation of us. It was shown in Swamp Thing that Job Burke goes beyond the dream which Oblivion threatened to that real world not ours.
Fourth wall abilities aren't valid here tbh and 6th dimensional beings are superior to 5th dimensional beings.
Perpetua < oblivion
@@limitbreaker5560 some of what you said isnt correct. For one anyone from the Dark Multiverse>Light Multiverse. The same 5th dimensional egg fought Nix while at full power+written by Morrison. He is far above 6th dimensional.
You have to explain why 4th wall breaks aren't valid. A Gentry user was already>reader which is what Oblivion is. Threatening the reader. Empty Hand>Gentry>Reader. I already explained in my comment the real world being used in Marvel isn't the real world.
While Animal Man is with the writer he explains no one can get to his real world while in Marvel people just go to a fictional representation of the real world. This is what the writer makes clear.
We can also scale Empty Hand above Perpetua because he is one of the villains challenging Darkseid for the great Darkness. Infinite frontier darkseid>Perpetua although we should wait for the new crisis next year.
@@AngelPerez-yr1yi well superboy did that stuffs but scales below Batman who laughs, mxy did it but is below 6th dimensional beings.
Mxy is even afraid of Dr Manhattan lol. You are ignoring actual facts here lol.
There's nothing trancends the fiction lol.
@@AngelPerez-yr1yi IF darkseid is a massively amped darkseid with ale lol.
And also everything is under source stated by Chronicler
@@limitbreaker5560 obviously nothing actually transends fiction. I am not talking about regular crises or stories this is Grant Morrison were talking about. He don't care if Mar Novu was already established make Dax Novu. He's the same guy who made Animal man. IF Darkseid is not amped by the Anti Life Equation. He is all his past versions into one. Darkseid states in the same story Anti Life is fodder to the Great Darkness. And the Source was going to be destroyed by the Darksest Knight. The Batman Who Laughs told Batman this while DK was fighting with Wonder Woman.
Scarlet King vs Oblivion
(SCP vs Marvel).
Boros vs Perfect Cell
(One Punch Man vs Dragon Ball).
Yusuke vs Ichigo
(Yu Yu Hakusho vs Bleach).
Ghost Rider vs Spawn (Marvel vs Image Comics).
Zombie Iron Man vs The Batman who laughs
(Marvel vs DC).
The scarlet king gets stomped by oblivion oblivion is on a whole other leagues
I don’t think OPM vs dragon ball is a fair fight…Neither is perfect cell vs Boros, Also which iteration of ghost rider and spawn
Batman Who Laughs stomps Zombie Iron Man it isn't even funny.
@@AliAhmed-si5yj Nope, Scarlet King easily stomps Oblivion.
@@Garth19-06 nope
The Great Darkness vs Oblivion.
The Empty Hand vs the Chaos King.
Empty hand looks a million times cooler tho
L take.
Oblivion is the void before the beginning and after the end. He has no superiors. All of these other beings do his bidding
Going through the comments never fails to make me laugh sometimes lol.
The empty hand is above the spectre and easily above the living tribunal which is equivalent to oblivion
If characters are literally threating the reader you know there a monster
Faxs
How are they threathening the reader if they are just in books?
@@thedog1368 Fiction works like that ig
@@cacenflowers927 no it doesn't lmao some even say "he represent the detah of the readers, he scares the readers" like how the fuck?
@@thedog1368 I already had this conversation with someone tbh and I already know no matter how much I explain to you how fiction and power scaling works you'll refuse to accept it. So honestly just either accept some things or learn about it on your own.
6:43
Wow, so if thats the case, Oblivion vs John cena next?
I mean neither can truly see each other, could THAT work lol?
John Cena wins via ice cream.
@@FookMi69
Oblivion could win if Oblivion brings Empanadas into the battle😂
@@chriss.249 But Cena can counter that by saying _"Bing Chilling!"_
@@FookMi69
Whaaaat? When did he unlock THAT power???
@@chriss.249 By speaking Chinese.
Empty hand
Would you ever consider doing the Divine Creator vs Unwritten Leviathan?
We saw empty hand true form
The reader:tis but a scratch
We saw oblivion true form
The reader:haha I'm in dengar
Actually even gentry were a threat to readers and empty hand scale much higher than them.
There are no fictional character that could threaten us.
4:49 dear future reader, this page proves oblivion wins. Oblivion is the final form of destruction. Any form of destruction would just give oblivion more power. Empty hands is quite literally the empty hands of oblivion
I m Stronger than Oblivion. Look my Hand is Empty! Empty is my Hand ✋
You really defame oblivion. Dear future reader skip over his comment, it’s useless and proves nothing !
I think before even watching the video if this is based on scaling and not narrative in nature Empty Hand claps based on prior statements from you. Damn I was wrong lol I’ve been wrong before.
The reason I thought this was because he said on a livestream that bewtween Darkseid and oblivion he said Darkseid would win and obviously empty hand resructed Darkseid and has plot manip so he scales far above Darkseid, but I guess he was just talking about projected oblivion and chaos king. Darkseid could beat chaos king and projected oblivion like the one we see in the comic. But in terms of true form oblivion could kill the reader obliviously Darkseid can’t handle that Idk scaling is weird. So I guess TFDS vs True form oblivion, oblivion wins I guess. But I guess TFDS Vs Chaos king(projected oblivion) Darkseid would win is what I guess is what he’s saying, I could be wrong though in that assessment.🤷♂️🤷♂️
Empty hand definitely wins. Oblivious is just doing all the talking, he can’t kill no reader. He ain’t doing no action. While EH is doing the action but not doing all the talking.
EH can't kill the reader even if he tried because he is fiction which amounts to an empty threat, Oblivion Wins.
@@theobnoxiousguy3425 Neither can Oblivion tho
@@sonicman9910 he literally can, in powerscaling it would be considered true 😐
In action? You gotta go see a doctor
@@sonicman9910 Oblivion has threatened the reader with death, simply by viewing his true form
I agree with you conclusion
G1 Autobots and Decepticons (Transformers 1984) vs Knightmares and Military Forces (Code Geass)
Try and make your musics louder. I love them
How powerful is echidna from Greek / swollman methaus ?
Yo splash do MCU Ultron (infinite Ultron) vs god swamp thing and evil Dr strange vs true Dr fate.
Isn't the Empty Hand just and aspect of the Great Darkness? Oblivion vs The Great Darkness
W
Oblivion
Great video, I’m slightly late, but mordru vs someone would be nice, mordru is so underrated
How is Mordru underrated?
@@BigSirSplash I rarely see anyone talk about him
Eon(Ben 10) vs Kang The Conquer (Marvel Comics)
Eon stomps..... He was able to erase all Timelines with the Chrono Sapien Time Bomb. It is even arguable that it erased other Continuities Timelines (this wouldn't effect those Abstracts of those Verses). Kang's Other Variants all get erased, assuming Kang doesn't find out (which is possible)
@@michaelanuradha-khufu74 nonsense, kangs got way more expirience actually causing term effects on timelines, just as well as having temporal defenses with his technology. He’s also held his own against marvel heavy weights and even beaten them in some instances like apocalypse and thanos. Eons powers cause him to decay, even ben in his ten year old form could hurt him with a stray punch.
@@michaelanuradha-khufu74 Doudt if Eon built it why did he die from it? Plus it's a Chronosapien Time Bomb so I assume it was built by or parts of a Chronosapien.
Awesome video
The empty hand is more powerful because he is god opposite
great video and scaling bro
Respectfully disagree but good video
Yea he does good power scaling but i also disagree with this.
Respectfully disagree!
@@BigSirSplash lol we all have our own opinion
Hmmm, DAMN interesting, did not see this one coming. I must ponder this. 🤔
Awesome match up.
You know what the badass fight is Ripley from Aliens versus Sarah Connors from Terminator
Yes! an oblivion vs battle matchup!
Thank you. Finally a logical breakdown on UA-cam. I like DanCo, but they got this one wrong.
I hate DanCo and definitely gets everything wrong, but didn't he say that the Empty hand wins? Cause if so he wasn't wrong. This dude is the perfect Avatar for great Darkness,
@@kongsied4279 tfo wins
@@aaronmontero2199 Huh? TFO or TFD?
@@kongsied4279 tfo
@@aaronmontero2199 damn bro I don't wanna be sarcastic but🤷🏿♂️
Yo would you consider doing mcu captain America vs micheal Myers for Halloween? I did post this question before. But I believe curse of thorn micheal Myers and current micheal Myers would stand the best chance against captain America.
The reason why I believe these 2 versions of micheal Myers would stand the best chance against mcu captain America. Is because with cruse of thorn micheal he took multiple bullets and was able to Escape an explosion before it could finish him off
Another reason is because Curse of thorn micheal Myers was also able to survive after being ejected with acid and the is impressive durable from him. I might be missing a few thing but that is the basic gif
For current micheal Myers ( spoiler for Halloween kills) micheal Myers evolved during the movie cause after he got shot 7 times and beaten with multiple weapons and got stabbed in the back. He was able to get back up and get faster cause he adapt it
I know that's alot put i really believe this would be a good fight.
The empty hand is the opposite of the closed fist. Him and Darkseid are essentially the same power level. Is oblivion stronger than true Darkseid?
One of my favorite Genre of comments is people coming on vids that have been out for years, and commenting with new comics that came out after the vid, LMAO
Horror movie survivors vs matches would be interesting. Ash probably takes everyone but I don’t watch every horror movie either
Hmmm maybe he could fight….machiko noguchi aka the human Predator. Not a movie character but she is fairly badass, but I can see ash hitting on her and that costing him getting hit which would be funny. Theres also Burt Gummer from tremors who had guns and probably the best prep time capabilities out of any monster movie character.
Ash should take all the survivors due to plot armor but then again there are several contestants that could win. Ellen Ripley, Dutch from Predator, John Connor, Blade and Riddick from Pitch Black are all badass in there own right.
@@brantcloyd5485 I wouldn't consider Blade or Riddick survivors, Ripley and Dutch could be interesting contest though
@@leonmosley2099 Just curious as to why not for Riddick at least? Blade I get, he is a Marvel hero afterall but still I feel on these survivors level with a bit more speed and reflexes.
@@brantcloyd5485 being perfectly honest I haven’t seen pitch black and I assume that Riddick acts the same as he does in the next two movies. If he does then he’s not a survivor he’s an action hero in a horror/dark style movie not a horror movie survivor.
Pre Retcon Beyonder vs Oblivion
oblivion wins badly
@@Dream-kp6gn Do you really think that? Cause if i had to bet money it would be on the Pre Retcon Beyonder cause that mafk is even more op than the word op
@@monkebrainedfish3130 yes i do and if i had money i would bet on oblivion winning no diff
Seriously Yfv? The fact that you can believe that Oblivion is a threat to you is just hilarious.
To the reader with narrative value yeah.
It's what he represents. Oblivion is simply the end for you meaning just choking on a hotdogs and die then that is when it was him. He represents the end of you and the use of you becoming something for a new creation.
But we should have no narrative value for Oblivion's case unlike for Empty Hand, where our actions of demanding for Darkseid to be brought back after Darkseid war has put the heroes in danger in Infinite Frontier. And for me, I think Grant Morrison is the best explained of the meta stuff, so his character(Empty Hand) is more defined with tangible implications to us. As for Oblivion, it hasn't been made clear whether the Reader is the entire Marvel scape or something else, but for Empty Hand, it's the collective compulsion by the fanbase in seeing heroes battle bad guys and the Crisis on Infinite Earths events which cleared up the DC landscape just as the fans wanted, which the Empty Hand referred to as the Multiverse which he destroyed.
@@meatsweatsland what? Lmao. The reader is constantly addressed throughout marvel comics dude. Go watch my classic strange vid
@@bighorn6964 That is the most stupidest thing I have ever heard.
My money is on EH
Joker with the carnage symbiote
Vs
Batman with Spider-Man’s powers
Spiderman couldn't beat cletus with carnage. Joker actually has abilities like high pain tolerance to none at all. And joker is by far more insane and smarter.
Basically Empty Hand is Greater than a Lovecraftian Horror Damn 💀
I call upon Asura, Saitama, Superman and Kratos in a 4 way battle to the Death 💀
None of these characters are actual threats to the reader, that's a ridiculous scaling that does not apply to anything. The genrty themselves were a threat to DC's entire cosmology and actually invaded the cosmology from The Outside, likely the Overvoid. Empty Hand itself is the literal concept of the next stronger villain. Now with Infinite frontier out we know Empty Hand is the right hand of the great darkness, the very one that shook the hand of the Light in that truce.
Based
"They cant beat me up bro im the reader. I do tae kwon do on Tuesdays. Id kick their ass. Scaling doesnt work."
-auron1roxas2
Marvel and dc herald tier outerversal feats video solar system level debunked
You are very correct because oblivion can also destroy our world with his sheer power
🤡
The empty hand didn't leave empty handed 😢 he snatched my junk.
Is the empty hand Big Dick Randy? 😂
Would love to see a video on Supergirl.
Search up yfv supergirl!
Well then I guess Oblivion is above Cyttorak then since we saw Cyttorak's true form so your opinion on dat vid wit Oblivion vs Cyttorak probly changed. Also Oblivion is above Spectre then based on the consistency of your vids.
We havent seen Cyttoraks true form. He explained he has never shown it
So that is a lie on your end, not sure why you said it?
Consistent spectre should get washed. Ostranders Spectre has a chance
I was genuinely confused lol but thanks didnt know Cyttorak said that either. Sorry if I sounded a bit bold I was just trying to find consistency which I know u usually are accurate on was just confused about this one for the first time.
Since jl incarnate was released as your opinion on this vs battle changed?
Comp Zoom vs either CGR or black SS
Galactus from marvel comics 🆚 Barbados from DC comics who will win or why and one by one fight to dead death ?
Fight to the Death? Barbatos, wins. What would be the scenario for them fighting not to the death?
I think oblivion can't beat empty hand but true from oblivion can beat empty hand 👌👌
why would anyone take Oblivion statements seriously it's obvious he cant destroy the readers so it was just boasting like all villains do so for me it's a toss up.
Exactly.
Tbh writers making characters with such nonsensical powers is just stupid. Threaten the reader, really? Actually stupid lmao.
Lmao I’ll get that book and burn 🔥 it. What Oblivion going to do? Absolutely nothing 😂. So threatening the readers is absolutely stupid. Bc a paper cant do a damn thing to a real life person.
@@yc_knight6370 paper cut
@@justsomeguywithnolife8986 That’s our own action. Not his, he ain’t God or Jesus.
I am a fan of both dc and marvel but a more dc fan because i grow up with dc but i know marvel as well
If Marvel and DC ever do another crossover these Kings of Nothingness should work together to eradicate all of creation
Empty hand of course wins
Etrigan vs Martian Manhunter
Might Guy vs Deathstroke
Raven vs Rogue
Chuck Norris vs Segata Sanshiro
Itachi vs Madara
Etrigan
Guy stomps
Raven one shots
Chuck Norris
Madara curbstomps
I disagree. Empty hand takes this. Because empty hand is the concept of comic villains itself. And he is the real life character. And moreover. It's stupid to think that a comic book character will kill reader. Oblivion is end of marvel stories and Empty hand is the reader himself who will decide whether to continue reading the book or keep it down. Empty hand takes thia
Hell nah Oblivion outscales the shit outta empty hand we have sum one in marvel just like empty hand called M.O.D marquis of death who just waves his hand and universes galaxy even multiverse become destroyed and Oblivion Outscales him to with ease bruh
@@A1qg you need to have deep knowledge about these abstract entities child. This doesn't simply depend upon universes and multiverse. It doesn't matter who is erasing multiverse or even Omniverse with hands.. Empty hand is the above all such concepts because he is above the comic book itself. He is literally everything that happens in comic books you read and also in same time he is nothing.😊
@@A1qg lol...mcu fanboy that knows nothing about dc comics. Wtf!...did this kid just compare empty hand to MOD??
@@manabsenapati3996 with that comparison he made i would say he's like 12years old or even less and i don't think it's good to even argue with such child lol.
don’t u get it oblivion is the ultimate end there is nothing more he is a being who sees all and knows all he speaks to the reader like it’s nothing and him stating to kill the reader would not be a lie eternity himself can’t even see or enter he’s domain
Oblivion vs pennywise
Plz
oblivion 😂🎉🎉
Dr Manhattan plz
DC really needs to get a grip on who the God of there universe is. These abstract and op characters are making my head spin. In my own opinion I'd put like this for an easier way of dealing with it.
The presence/the voice/ God/ The reader/ the writer/ the author as #1
#2 The Wrath of God/The Spectre, angels, The Word, Michael, phantom stranger as all part of an assembly of God.
Eclipso , Lucifer, perpetua, barbatos, monitors , mandrakk as a lower 3rd place.
Demons and weird stuff like that placed as lower 4th.
Darkseid, trigon and the old and new gods as 5th.
5 dimensional imps and dr. Manhattan are placed in 6th.
Greek gods are placed in 7th
Metahumans are 8th.
Humans are 9th.
That’s why DC gets so much flack😂 too much power for one verse
@@Sosadawwg__0 I understand and they really need to get a grip on it.
@@jaredmccain7518 after crisis, it’s too late.
@@Sosadawwg__0 The problem with DC is they suck at explaining or creating abstract concepts, to much power is not even the problem. Marvel has it's faults but the way the do abstract with some flaws are better.
@@theobnoxiousguy3425 Marvel needs to figure out who’s the Satan in the verse. TOBA, Mephisto, Dormammu, Cyttorak, Zarathos are damn near the same person
I want to see Lady Shiva vs Karate Kid
@yfv is there a chance that frontier darkseid who regained all of his power and had the antlife equation could scale above empty hand or oblivion?
Darkseid is nothing compared to these beings no matter what he has
@@thedog1368 dude he literally fought empty hand
@@stevenaveed7742 like who you kidding bruh?
All of marvels cosmics entities are abtract forces of nature and for tge most part unlike DC cosmic entitys that are just created by DC they embody real life concepts like infinity, eternity, death, love etc oblivion is a real life concept death is his sister and she is a mere aspect of him also chaos king who ended 98% of the multiverse is merely a herald to him. Death is a real life entity. Oblivion represents the nonexistence of everything even outside comics whereas empty hand just represents the nonexistence of comics/ reader ending the comic they represent two entirely different things.
Writers giving characters such nonsensically stupid powers is just laughable. Claiming a fictional character has the power to threaten the reader is beyond moronic. Holds no weight either because it isn't true. It's just stupid and cringe inducing.
Readers are given a narrative value
A DC or marvel comic isn't true get over it
@@bighorn6964 Duh
@@BigSirSplash can you do a video on divine creator
Dude please please stop
oblivion wins imo
I have another question.
Can somebody tell who Oblivion is, what are his powers, what can he do and his story, please? Please, bro. Answer me because I'm a new fan of Oblivion. Please tell me clearly🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺😊🙃
Bro oblivion is a character of marvel.
He is beyond boundless characters.he live outer side of marvel. You can't imagine how powerful is oblivion his weakest avatar destroy 98 % of marvel multiverse. He is not made by marvel reader he lives before marvel multiverse made. He is nothing less and can't be killed by anyone even writer also
I hope you understood if not go search in youtude about oblivion
@@Unkownuser6810 oblivion is NOT boundless first of all the concept is that he is basiclly the entity of chaos beyond death and his mikaboshi destroyed 95% not 98% he can be killed but only by the writer oblivion is not god he is just a reality colapser plane changer and dimension manipulator but he has bounds as he can not escape comics or kill supreme beings like the writer but he is op af an example of a true boundless character is the empty hand wich concept is bizzare but it is basiclly multi fiction changer that has no bounds as he can escape comics and be the reader itself
@@Unkownuser6810 OK. Thanks
@@pedrorestrepovillegas6740 OK. Thanks
You.are.100percent.right😊
Pre retcon beyonder vs toaa the truth
Im earlyy👍
Devine creator is the nexus and the power of love above nothingness and concepts and once was stated to be creation and opened a portal to our world
It’s a fight without a winner because Oblivion is the nothingness before and after, even if he wasn’t as strong as The Empty Hand, killing Oblivion would just leave more Oblivion. If you burned the comic book page, Oblivion still exists as he doesn’t need the comic book
not a great feat for oblivion. All forms of characters exist in the idea verse outside of comics lol
Tho i disagree that oblivion can harm the reader, i think true form oblivion would solo most of the DC verse including empty hand, etc.
Lol joke
Empty hand and his daddy solos marvel
Great darkness solos marvel
@@abps9947 funny ?
Divine Creator blinks Great Darkness
@@hemlo6128 lol in that way
Oversoul solos fulcrum
But I don't believe that
@@hemlo6128 C'mon a mcu tard
Divine creator is just near to fulcrum
Only Toaa can beat great darkness
@@hemlo6128 bruh
Oblivion is gay 🤣🤣🤣
Just shut up
I'm a marvel fan
Sure divine creator is above beyonder
But both are just below ultimate great darkness
oblivion don't have control over his full power that's why his full form can kill reader...maybe other guy got control over his power(i mean maybe oblivion killing read is not bcz of his power...maybe that's what happens bcz of certain power...like kryptonite can kill superman does that means kryptonite is so strong that it can kill wonder woman or Martin manhunter too)
Eh his abstracts basically soloed the multiverse and he just sat and watched
@@bighorn6964 oblivion was before creation and empty hand is going to be at the wnd of everything (oblivion is like empty space before we create anything...so that is like primal monitor or overvoid) but empty hand is readers hand so he can always close or burn the canvas
@@rishavrai99999 that's the thing oblivion wants the papers to be burned because out of him imagination and the multiverse comes from him. He will still be there for when it dies and live long after that
@@bighorn6964 no...multiverse did not came out of him...multiverse is on him...you can say oblivion was unable to stop creator to create things over him..he is that blank paper which was emptiness before creation and empty hand is ultimate evil bcz he can close that blank paper or any comic book
@@rishavrai99999 yes it comes from him that doesn't mean he created it. He is nothingness
It’s a draw to be honest
Can you do pralaya vs oblivion
True form of Oblivion solos
I don't know, for me they are the same concept.
Early gang
Empty hand is the end which is oblivion and after the end so how does oblivion win this lil 🤔
because when you die you become a part of THE oblivion
Ooooowww Shiiiiet! It's about to go Dooooowwwn!!! 😮😮😍💯🔥🙌
Empty Hand powers is shit, Empty Hand vs Stan Lee
People saying Oblivion does not threaten them then ask yourself this what happens when you die the moment between your last breath and entrance to heaven or reincarnation Wich ever you believe in
Metallo vs ultron
What if empty hand is Oblivion. Like chaos king was.
So let me get this straight Oblivion wins because he claims that his true form wold kill the reader who the empty hand represents? The amount of brain cells I’ve lost is just mind boggling.
I mean he represents the calm and peace after death to the birth of creation. Multi eternity wasn't even capable of helping against an abstract of oblivion. And even though juggernaut had the magic on him from cytoraak that made him a shield invincible from every form of physical attack but oblivion still kept killing him. He just kept coming back
That's impossible since they are just fictional characters.
@@Garth19-06 Yeah anything can happen in fiction. Literally anything the writer wants. If he says a character can hurt the reader if they want to you using "they can't because it's fiction" isn't REALLY accurate because you're going off our reality not the reality of the comics they are in.
@@cacenflowers927 No, if a writer said that they could kill us. They could not kill the real us, the reader. They can only kill the fictional reader.
@@Garth19-06 You don't seem to have a grasp on fictional characters tbh.
Empty hand wins, easy
Empty Hand wins
Ur 100% right bro. Dan co got it wrong
empty hand > dark 5th dimension > light 5th dimension > monitors > presence > oblivion.
Hell naa
@@A1qg yes
It should be like this
Monitors>Empty Hand>dark 5th dimension>light 5th dimension>presence>oblivion.
The monitor nix Uotan made a plan to stop the Gentry and Empty Hand.
@@AngelPerez-yr1yi the monitors are bellow the source wall in the map, the 5th dimension is outside creation and has recreated the source as well as stated a threat to the presence, nix had a plan and it failed he himself stated that the gentry was beyond him.
@@coin4898 that he's garbo is what im getting at
Empty Hand: you will never defeat me. I am unbound by *them*
Oblivion: *Who are you but a mere concept, a puppet fooling it self into beliving that it has power over the puppeteer, a character made to entertain their feeble minds, you are but a tool to cultivate more power, you are not real. Unlike you I am all things, this avatar of mine is, this visage is merely one of infinite others. I am the rot, the growth, the death, the living. I am nothing and every thing, In the end all things shall return to me once more. For I am Oblivion*
The great evil beast is more powerdul
Oblviion claps
Empty hand