Wheelchair Fencing - CHN vs CHN - Men's Ind Sabre - Cat. A Final - London 2012 Paralympic Games

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  • Опубліковано 5 вер 2012
  • GOLD CHEN Yijun CHN - China
    SILVER TIAN Jianquan CHN - China
    BRONZE CHAN Wing Kin HKG - Hong Kong, CHN
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  • @MC-qm5jn
    @MC-qm5jn 2 роки тому +10

    Me: watches wheelchair fencing for the first time to see what it’s like.
    Me 10 seconds in: sees both competitors standing and walking
    Me again: infers that they have mobility issues anyway so don’t come at me

  • @Joni_Tarvainen
    @Joni_Tarvainen 9 років тому +29

    Damn this is inspiring!
    Always loved swordsmanship and fencing. I were even starting Kendo just before I paralyzed.
    This is something that I REALLY wanna do after I graduate, as I thought there's no way that wheelchair fencing exists.
    I already fight with sabres, bastards and even katanas/shotos against my friend who actually practices medieval swordsmanship and can use footwork as he's "normal".
    Still I manage to be even with him and win even long fights by using different techniques is different situations while moving my chair with one hand when I see oppoturnity for such :P

    • @homfencing
      @homfencing 9 років тому

      ***** What part of the country are you in? I'll see if I can find a club that includes wheelchair fencing

    • @Joni_Tarvainen
      @Joni_Tarvainen 9 років тому

      homfencing I alrady know where to find one from my hometown :) After I graduate I can move back there and start :)

    • @homfencing
      @homfencing 9 років тому +4

      ***** Great! If you decide to buy your own gear, drop me a line...I'm an equipment vendor in Burbank, CA.

  • @TheWill920
    @TheWill920 7 років тому +42

    As bad as it may sound, I still giggled when they stood up from their wheelchair in celebration, lol

    • @ElMundoDeHadesOK
      @ElMundoDeHadesOK 4 роки тому +6

      some people dont understand that just because you can walk, doesn't mean you dont have certain disability

    • @clemg.6816
      @clemg.6816 2 роки тому +1

      @@ElMundoDeHadesOK That’s right I walk despite my disability (I have mild to moderate Cerebral palsy)

  • @sojjjer
    @sojjjer 4 роки тому +17

    Ah yes the cavalry

  • @TheHoundII
    @TheHoundII 10 років тому +19

    They can walk not fence probably serious knee problem or hamstring

  • @YULi-qf1wq
    @YULi-qf1wq 3 місяці тому

    Tian's right leg is a prosthetic leg and Chen has polio.

  • @willemh3319
    @willemh3319 8 років тому

    hat is the ipc clasification of these guys i saw them walking

  • @AlvarMartinez-tk3hf
    @AlvarMartinez-tk3hf 8 місяців тому

    they where standing up?

  • @homfencing
    @homfencing 11 років тому +2

    Jesus....the abdominal strength required to do that Matrix retreat....
    I sometimes simulate chair when giving lessons...but I don't have the rack to really do it properly.

  • @basedbattledroid3507
    @basedbattledroid3507 3 роки тому +4

    I'm confused, why are they using wheelchairs when they both have working legs?

    • @cptn_n3m012
      @cptn_n3m012 2 роки тому +5

      Maybe one of these legs is prosthetic, maybe some kind of atrophy, maybe any other thing. Disability doesnt have to be visible to exist

  • @homfencing
    @homfencing 11 років тому

    Re the commentary around 6:20....uhh...when the ref is signalling attack, no....that is not a parry-riposte....just sayin'.

  • @roo1973
    @roo1973 10 років тому +10

    As a wheelchair fencer myself who needs a wheelchair all the time I have no idea how these two qualify.

    • @Vesivian
      @Vesivian 7 років тому +3

      cat a u dumbass...

  • @chrisg4584
    @chrisg4584 10 років тому +8

    Wait a minute, they can stand & walk?

    • @Anton-xm8xs
      @Anton-xm8xs 9 років тому +4

      Look at their legs

    • @homfencing
      @homfencing 9 років тому +19

      chris green Philly Being ambulatory is not the same as being able to fence on your feet. There might be a neurological issue going on that's not evident, but that has been properly evaluated.

    • @nickkirschner581
      @nickkirschner581 8 років тому +5

      +homfencing very true, it appeared that one of the guys had a prosthetic leg but that's just a guess. you know they have to have beast like core/upper body strength to be able to throw their weight around like that. impressive, nuff' said.

    • @samsignorelli
      @samsignorelli 8 років тому +1

      nick kirschner Well, they can't wear the prosthetic in the chair, but definitely agreed on the core strength.
      See if you can find the men's team foil bronze match between Italy and Hong Kong. One of the Hong Kong team has no left arm at all past the bicep...so no arm to help him move....it's ALL core!

    • @nickkirschner581
      @nickkirschner581 8 років тому +2

      These guys are ridiculous, the speed! The accuracy! Very impressive for sure

  • @kolby4078
    @kolby4078 2 роки тому

    they really don't need the wheels.

  • @TheAwkwardturtle14
    @TheAwkwardturtle14 11 років тому +1

    I like how both if these fencers are not cripple.

    • @clemg.6816
      @clemg.6816 2 роки тому

      They might have a non or barely visible disability don’t judge what you can’t see

  • @Habcdefg94
    @Habcdefg94 8 років тому +11

    So people that can walk sit in a wheelchair for fun and to be able to participate in wheelchair fencing.
    Seems legit
    I do get it. They have some kind of disability, but still the purpose of the wheelchair is completly gone and the whole thing to me subjectively looks stupid especially if you consider other people actually need such wheelchairs to be able to get from A to B.

    • @bbjjmmogillis7600
      @bbjjmmogillis7600 7 років тому +19

      I think the point is that these athletes are unable to (competitively, at least) do regular fencing, and the wheelchair just serves to make people with differing degrees of disability on the same level. The same effect could be gotten by any other position which renders the athletes' disabilities irrelevant. The wheelchair is simply the most effective across all the different types of disability. There is competitive wheelchair fencing with actual wheelchair users (Such as myself); you will likely find this in Category C (This is for those with the greatest impairments to mobility and strength) or even B. Sorry if I'm ranting, it's just that I am a wheelchair fencer (I would be in Category C, but I don't compete), so this is rather close to my heart.

    • @bbjjmmogillis7600
      @bbjjmmogillis7600 7 років тому +1

      That said, I'm not sure why a regular chair wouldn't work for Category A (it would need a bar on the fencer's left, so he can use it to push/pull himself around).

    • @willemh3319
      @willemh3319 7 років тому +1

      Torrox Morrox the man on the right has unimpairement with the left leg watch his foot

    • @samsignorelli
      @samsignorelli 7 років тому +14

      They might have cerebral palsy, or some other condition that makes it impossible for them to fence able-bodied.
      Not all disabilities are easily seen.

    • @willemh3319
      @willemh3319 7 років тому

      +sam signorelli if they are abled bodied they would have to sit but could i can stand but my left leg is not listening to me my foot is hanging like his