My old baby! When I joined the Army back in 99 we had A-2's 1 and 7" twist 20" barrel. I never had any issues with it! When my unit was given the m-4 however that was a different story we had issues with it. The Army has a bad habit of adopting new rifles during and before conflicts. I personally prefer the A-2/A-4 configuration. The rounds seem to be more effective both in range and power. The system isn't over gased. It doesn't foul as much as the m-4. In my experience the A2 was more reliable. We had issues with m-4's shorter gas system. It got hotter quicker and more fouling parts wore out quicker. From what I've understand they since resolved the m-4's issues. But since fighting in Afghanistan is fought at longer ranges they should have stuck with the A2 and made the 77gr OMT standard round I think we would have been better equipt for the style of fighting that took place in Afghanistan. Haji used to engage us with Enfields Mauser's and Mosin Nagants because they knew the limitations of our carbines and our ammunition and our training with cqb. In Iraq the m-4 did fine cqb style of fighting but it still had issues with dust and debris.
As a Afghanistan veteran, with body armor and dismounted, the M4 was much better. You could collapse it, hook it to your IBA and if you were doing cordon and search and something or someone jumped... You could throw it up quickly damn near like a pistol! Besides, 98% of any shooting I did was with a M240, only about 2-3 times with my M4!
The A2 was slightly heavier than the A1 due to the heavier barrel. Lower receivers & BCG's relatively stayed the same/weight. I served from 87 to 92. Found the A2's to be a bit more accurate and the sights were easier to fine tune elevation and windage. @@victorglaviano
X-Ray Crystallography Dumb? Hardly. Uninformed on this specific detail? Yes. I will say that this is a good example of why folks should take everything they see on the internet with a grain of salt. It should also be noted that while Sootch00 does speak with an "air of authority" he has never presented himself as an expert in the field of firearms.
X-Ray Crystallography Well, he doesn't need me to come to his rescue. No, I feel like a fool for completely different reasons, such as enriching divorce attorneys after marrying high maintenance whores. And yes, he is wrong on a great many things in many of his videos. That certainly makes him ignorant, but not necessarily "dumb". I've known quite a few intelligent folks that were ignorant on one or more subjects and a handful of intellectually challenged people that were actually well-informed in certain areas. Personal attacks don't make for a valid argument, period. As far as his being cute, I'm not a homosexual...not that there's anything wrong with that.
X-Ray Crystallography I'm not advocating for Sootch00. I'm advocating for civility and reason. It's more than a bit ironic that you are a stickler for accuracy in regards to his video content, yet you don't differentiate between ignorance and outright stupidity. I agree that when someone puts info out there for the world to see, they open themselves up to criticism, especially when they are serial offenders. However, I make a distinction between the message and the messenger. Granted, I have seen him put out a video that displayed irresponsible and dangerous handling of firearms (and I admit THAT could be an argument for stupidity), but I have yet to see him put out info that is inherently dangerous. Overall, he's harmless.
X-Ray Crystallography:-) Well, at least you've managed to come out of your shell and tell us all how you really feel. As I already admitted to being a fool (as in stupid) for my costly misadventures in love, you haven't scored an intellectual victory there. Anyway, it takes a lot more than personal attacks from an ill-tempered keyboard commando to ruin my day, so sorry...you lose. I'm no believer in karma, but I'm sure your attitude and disposition will eventually catch up with you. Not that it matters to me either way. Have a good life.
I plan on starting an A2 build in the near future. Even though it would save me a bit of money, I just can't stand the uppers with the option of a detachable carry handle. Those adjustable pegs would drive me insane just because of the aesthetics.
I have that same exact gun made in 1993, love it, its my fav gun. The guy I purchased it from had some pretty expensive optics mounted on it, I took them off and only use the iron sites, !
The Marine Corps wanted nothing to do with the M16 for competition until the USAMU switched (from the M14) and started spanking them every year at Camp Perry.
Regarding 1:31 for clarification, on the original M16A1 rifle, its barrel had a one twist along 12 inches as its stabilizing gyroscopic spin for the 55 grain bullet. However on the next generation M16A2 rifle, its barrel had a faster one twist along 7 inches as its stabilizing gyroscopic spin for the new 62 grain bullet.
AR15 in it's classic configuration, is an excellent grab and go rifle. No need for optics to worry about batteries and zeroing. I have always trained myself to shoot well with iron sights. Long Live the AR15/M16.
Love it, got a Stag Arms HBAR 4L, its more accurate and only a bit heavier than the rifle I was issued when active Army. I was pleased to find an American made left-handed model. Not big on a lot of accessories but I did upgrade a few things and she eats everything I feed her. 20" is the only way to go!!
Sootch00, the sights were upgraded with an elevation knob, the peep sights stayed the same, the big sights is for night time shooting and 300 meters and the small one is for +300 meters and day time
Anyone interested in an AR should keep an eye out for pawns, and trade-ins at their local gun shop, also gun shows - and the newspaper classifieds are a good idea. I got a helluva deal on the used one i picked up.
Hey sootch. i love these videos bro. I'm probably joining the army soon, and i have some friends already in. I've convinced them that the AR15 is a good platform considering all the possibilities for customization. (7.62 uppers, P90 uppers, butt stocks, pistol grips, triggers, hand guards, sights, etc)
Thanks for the interesting video. I built my first Ar-15 about 15 years ago. It was in A2 configuration and i loved how accurate it was at the range. Sold all my guns in 2011 to finance move here to NC and i have just started a low budget Ar-15 build project. I am using a FMK AR-1 Extreme polymer lower I bought locally for $49.00 and i just this week received my lower parts kit from PSA for an additional $49.00 and everything fit perfectly. I live on much more limited income now so i need to stretch this build out over quite some time. Next month I plan on buying A2 butt stock assembly from Joeboboutfitters for $54.99. After that i have to make a big decision. Initially i was going to try and make this build as much like the M-16A1 I had when i was in the US Army in 70s and 80s. However after checking it seems A1 upper and SP-1 barrel will be a bit expensive. Palmetto State Armory has 16" barreled Flat Top upper assembly for $199.00 . This does not include BCG or charging handle. I would now prefer to have a full 20" HBAR for the accuracy at the range. Do you know where I can get a 20" HBAR upper assembly for about same price as the 16" Upper assembly at PSA? PSA does not have any in stock and it seems most companies gravitate to the carbine barrels. If I have to go with a 16" barrel will i be sacrificing much in way of accuracy out to 200 yds? I will probably do most of my shooting at 100 yds as my knees can not handle walk out much further to post my targets. Thanks
My grandpa gave me a H bar delta several years ago, it came with a bayonet lug, factory cheek riser, a ten power scope and a metal case. I cant find any info on it but its a damn nice rifle.
The faster the projectile is traveling, the flatter its trajectory, the less time it takes to get to the target, the more energy it possesses, the more force needed to change its velocity and the less time a force can act on it.
That's not an a2 clone! It has an a2 delta ring & an a2 handguard, but an a1 triangle retaining cap. The main thing ur misinformed about is what an Hbar is. Hbar mean "heavy barrel", specifically used for match rifles. The a2 def had a thicker barrel, but at the top 6" (.750" diameter compared to the m16a1s .620" pencil barrel) to improve strength & reliability. Also, A2s di not have removable carry handles. m16a3s do. In fact, the removable carry handle mod is what changed the rifles classification to, a3! Then the addition of the KAC quad rail & removable carry handle changed the rifles classification to the m16a4 service rifle we know today. The only service rifle I know of with a 1:7 Hbar & meant for combat operations (not competition), is the SAM-R (Squad Advanced Marksman-Rifle). The heavy barrel w/tight twist rate stabilizes heavier match grade ammo & reduces barrel whip improving accuracy & are only Issued to Snipers & Squad Designated Marksmans. The rifle in ur video is basically an ar15 a3 clone, with a match Hbar prolly with a 1:9 twist ratio for 223 rem. & 55 grain NATO ammo.
Sootch, 1 in 7 is actually a faster twist rate then 1 in 12. It means 1 turn in 7 inches vs 1 turn in 12 inches. So a 1 in 7 or a 1 in 8 barrel twist in a shorter length of the barrel then a 1 in 12 and give greater rotational speed to the bullet. This works well especially in shorter barreled AR's and allows heavier bullet weights, those above 62 or 69 grains, like the 77 grainers that are popular for longer range competition.
Too slow you mean. 1/12 twist was too slow to stabilize the heavier bullets. I thought that the A2 had a fixed handguard? Also, I have a M4gery, BCM with a 16 inch 1/7 twist barrel that shoots accurately out to 700 yards with 77 gr bullets.
+ung427 part of the reason that the M4 isnt good at anything past 400M's is in my opinion because the M4 with that 14 inch barrel could never reach the same speeds the M16A2's could. this makes you have to hold higher up because bullet drop would be much more apparent for an M4. not only that but studies in the 1960's concluded that the 5.56 became slightly unstable when used in a barrel shorter than 20 in unless it had a super strict groove twist rate.
Probably the most important change on the H BAR Sporter is the mod to the bolt carrier. The rear end of the hammer opening in the M16 trips the auto sear, on this one they milled that surface away so a bolt carrier from this wont trip an auto sear. This was because ATF made "FA Bolt Carriers" into naughty parts if you put them in an AR15; though they've changed their minds on the matter now, and they are no longer considered "naughty".
Nice! I just built this AR15 from a parts kit using a Battle Born billet stripped lower. However, I went even more old school and used an A2 20" HBAR upper that does not have the removable carry handle. I would love to fit it with the original style triangular hand guard if it will fit. Anyway, nice rifle! Looks just like my build.
You get the most out of the AR platform, sure it is heavier than alot of AR's nowadays, it isn't heavier than the rifles that came before it and those were carried by people who did not eat as well, knew less about fitness than and they did it just fine
Yeah they're great for when the s*** hits the fan, I own two pre ban AR-15 h-bar. They both shoot 3/8 of an inch at a hundred yards. In other words they tack Drive.
All time favorite. I always prefer AR15 in the classic configuration. Love the 20" barrel for maximum effectiveness for the 5,56/.223 round. Sootch00, please do a review on the ARMALITE AR15A2.
Nice review on the colt H Bar AR-15, it's cool to see this old school rifle being reviewed , I also have a colt Ar-15 but without The heavy barrel, I believe you have the target model, love my honey had her since 1985 USMC 1974-76
Notice the pin above the selector. Good old Colt decided to put in a sear block inside the receiver. They also milled the underside of the bolt carrier all the way to the rear so the bottom of the bolt carrier from the firing pin back is open. And they also put a non-mil-spec screw in place of the front take down pin. The Colt Sporter Match HBAR R6601 also came with two 20 round magazines - which were pop-riveted to a 5 round capacity. Grrrrrr...
I love my Colt AR15-A2 and its 20" barrel. 400 m hits on a range target is no problem . In fact I am consistant with getting a solid grouping under 8" diameter with Iron sights
the differences between the m4/m16 are next to nil. the max effective on a point target of the m16 is 600, the m4 is 550. the reason for that is the accuracy due to the shortened sight radius of the iron sights. when i was issued the m4 i had no problem qualifying expert on the range, at 500yds.
my 20" HBAR A2 is 9+ lbs without any accessories. not a light rifle at all. Add another pound for the Leatherwood CMR and a few oz for the magpul heatshield and ProTac lamp (190 lumens brightness), and this daggone thing is around 11lbs. BUT, that's what I wanted. A 'do-everything' rifle. 5m to 500m. with my back problems, recoil with a 6lbs AR is too much for me, but my BBW (big beautiful weapon) kicks like a 22lr. I don't intend to clear rooms with it, I have pistols for that role.
I've got one of those! It's from the preban days, but when Colt tried to self-regulate by putting a larger .315" pin in the front. Kind of a pain in the rear because you need adapter pins when using a mil-spec upper, but at least it's preban so I can put an "evil" collapsible stock on it and keep my "evil" flash hider in this repressive state.
my colt has a jewell trigger a UTI quad rail super free float tube for the price sub moa groups with 52.grians bthps varget mill brass 69ers if its windy i have a 1/9 twist and a target crown ... helps having good glass good vid dude thanks
Thats the style I like the best over one's with multi position stock. 20"barrel and what the Diameco now Colt Canada's C-7 was based on for the Canadian Forces and we removed the carry handle and put on a C79 Optical sight by Elcan.
Good video, but I'd like to point several things if I may. First, the rear flip sight...the smaller aperture is for normal distance shooting out to max, and the larger aperture is for low light shooting, and is used while wearing the protective mask. The version you have is an A4, as it has a removable carrying handle, the A2s have a fixed carrying handle. My unit was one of the first to receive the new A2s in 1986 while I was stationed in Germany. I carried an A4 in Iraq in 2005 on OIF III.
You also get more "stopping power" out of the 20in. You gain about 120fps per inch you increase the barrel length. So 16-20in is about a 480fps difference, which is pritty substancial when you are talking about a small cartrige.
I have the Colt hbar as seen in your video. It’s an excellent rifle. I shot it in the USMC. What is a good optic to mount on the fixed carry handle. I thought of Acog but they are super expensive. Thanks! Good video
@mycaddigo Golden tiger and Barnaul are two laquered- coated types of ammo that are in new production, and I have broke an extractor on wolf ammo before... Also sometimes the primers in the Russian stuff throw crap down the barrel that can clog a gas tube...
Sootch, I think you are a little mistaken. The HBAR was never used in military service. The heavy barrel is a civilian only feature. The military M16A2 used a "Government Profile" barrel that is much slimmer than the HBAR. The only part that is "heavy" on an A2 is the visible part past the FSB, while under the handguards the barrel retains the normal barrel weight. The biggest reason for the end of the barrel being made heavy is that during Vietnam there were a lot of rifles that had -cont
@semiautoriflelover Really? Which branch is using that? It just sounds a little light for a sure-kill. No doubt you could hit the target, but are they having good kill effect with them?
Great info I purchased the same Match Target HBAR 1/7 over 10 years ago when I had money . Its still NIB but not for long . Now that im broke and old I have every day shoot and clean. From what I have read the 1/7 with a 20in. will stableize all 5.56 NATO loads better then any other twist ratio . But my rifle differs in two ways , a fixed so called carry handle and no flash hider. The first inch of the barrel is stepped though
+Philip Edwards I have the same one, The other thing is the block behind the hammer that is pined and says Colt on top and can only use the slotted BCG. I think that was during the Clinton ban, You are right about the 1/7 twist. About the flash hider or compensator I don't know why it didn't come with one. Stay safe
I didn't purchase the Colt A2 H Bar, however, I did get my hands on a Superior Arms S-15 H-Bar. Exact same configuration, different manufacturer. I love the gun. The A2 style, to me, is much more appealing than an M4 style carbine. Likewise, as you said, these types of guns make target shooting a breeze. 100 yards feels like 10. Can't get enough the gun.
1. I believe HBAR stands for “Heavy Barrel AR” 2. The USMC did not adopt the HBAR (as standard issue). The M16A2 has a “government profile” barrel which is pretty silly: same as an A1 barrel but with increased thickness at gas block and forward. 3. The M4 has a 14.5” barrel, not 14.” 4. The government M4s have a 1/7 twist rate just like the 20” barrels. 5. M4s and 16” ARs can effectively be used past 300m.
I had one of those. Bought in 93 sold it 94. Cleaning it was a nightmare. To many tiny places for carbon to hide, but it did shoot well. The Seabees' had the A1 until I got out in 94. Another difference is the A1 have full auto and the A2 had 3 round burst control....The Marines I talked to hated the A2
I'm still a sucker for the 20in AR15.
My old baby! When I joined the Army back in 99 we had A-2's 1 and 7" twist 20" barrel. I never had any issues with it! When my unit was given the m-4 however that was a different story we had issues with it. The Army has a bad habit of adopting new rifles during and before conflicts. I personally prefer the A-2/A-4 configuration. The rounds seem to be more effective both in range and power. The system isn't over gased. It doesn't foul as much as the m-4. In my experience the A2 was more reliable. We had issues with m-4's shorter gas system. It got hotter quicker and more fouling parts wore out quicker. From what I've understand they since resolved the m-4's issues. But since fighting in Afghanistan is fought at longer ranges they should have stuck with the A2 and made the 77gr OMT standard round I think we would have been better equipt for the style of fighting that took place in Afghanistan. Haji used to engage us with Enfields Mauser's and Mosin Nagants because they knew the limitations of our carbines and our ammunition and our training with cqb. In Iraq the m-4 did fine cqb style of fighting but it still had issues with dust and debris.
When I came in in '87 we still had A1s around, heavy ass, triangular grip musket!
As a Afghanistan veteran, with body armor and dismounted, the M4 was much better. You could collapse it, hook it to your IBA and if you were doing cordon and search and something or someone jumped... You could throw it up quickly damn near like a pistol!
Besides, 98% of any shooting I did was with a M240, only about 2-3 times with my M4!
Stupid move U. Sam,14.5."
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The A2 was slightly heavier than the A1 due to the heavier barrel. Lower receivers & BCG's relatively stayed the same/weight. I served from 87 to 92. Found the A2's to be a bit more accurate and the sights were easier to fine tune elevation and windage. @@victorglaviano
1: 12 twist generates a slower spinning rate than 1:7. 1:7 means the bullet will rotate in one full rotation in 7 inches.
Twist rate doesnt mean shit when you are skipping bullets off the hood of your truck like sootch does 😂
@@DSMattitude lmao 😂😂😂
Ya hes confused
Bro it's your Fault again 20 years just bought mine M16A2 second gun from watching you awesome love the gun and your videos
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"Once you buy an AR-15, it'll quickly become your favorite to shoot"
I can second that, bought my first AR here recently and I've had a blast with it.
I'm surprised not more people mentioned the incorrect spin rate stated. 1/12 twist is slower than 1/7 twist.
As am I. That's not a minor error.
X-Ray Crystallography Dumb? Hardly. Uninformed on this specific detail? Yes. I will say that this is a good example of why folks should take everything they see on the internet with a grain of salt. It should also be noted that while Sootch00 does speak with an "air of authority" he has never presented himself as an expert in the field of firearms.
X-Ray Crystallography Well, he doesn't need me to come to his rescue. No, I feel like a fool for completely different reasons, such as enriching divorce attorneys after marrying high maintenance whores. And yes, he is wrong on a great many things in many of his videos. That certainly makes him ignorant, but not necessarily "dumb". I've known quite a few intelligent folks that were ignorant on one or more subjects and a handful of intellectually challenged people that were actually well-informed in certain areas. Personal attacks don't make for a valid argument, period. As far as his being cute, I'm not a homosexual...not that there's anything wrong with that.
X-Ray Crystallography I'm not advocating for Sootch00. I'm advocating for civility and reason. It's more than a bit ironic that you are a stickler for accuracy in regards to his video content, yet you don't differentiate between ignorance and outright stupidity.
I agree that when someone puts info out there for the world to see, they open themselves up to criticism, especially when they are serial offenders. However, I make a distinction between the message and the messenger. Granted, I have seen him put out a video that displayed irresponsible and dangerous handling of firearms (and I admit THAT could be an argument for stupidity), but I have yet to see him put out info that is inherently dangerous. Overall, he's harmless.
X-Ray Crystallography:-) Well, at least you've managed to come out of your shell and tell us all how you really feel. As I already admitted to being a fool (as in stupid) for my costly misadventures in love, you haven't scored an intellectual victory there. Anyway, it takes a lot more than personal attacks from an ill-tempered keyboard commando to ruin my day, so sorry...you lose. I'm no believer in karma, but I'm sure your attitude and disposition will eventually catch up with you. Not that it matters to me either way. Have a good life.
Love the 20" AR's especially with the carry handle. Not to mention 90% of my ammo is 55gr M193 and the extra velocity really helps out a lot
Back in 1999 I bought a similar rifle from Bushmaster. Same design and style. It was a great shooter.
I plan on starting an A2 build in the near future. Even though it would save me a bit of money, I just can't stand the uppers with the option of a detachable carry handle. Those adjustable pegs would drive me insane just because of the aesthetics.
They are great rifles,no question about it.Thanks Sootch
I have that same exact gun made in 1993, love it, its my fav gun. The guy I purchased it from had some pretty expensive optics mounted on it, I took them off and only use the iron sites, !
Thanks for the vid. Im in the market for an AR. The info here really helped my learning curve. Much appreciated.
The Marine Corps wanted nothing to do with the M16 for competition until the USAMU switched (from the M14) and started spanking them every year at Camp Perry.
Bingo!!!
I would have pegged you, Sootch, as having an old school HBAR. You're my favorite gun channel.
You should revisit this one sootchy
that is more of an A4 than an A2...
Mark Hayes, right he A2 has the permanent carry handle, the A4 has the detachable carry handle.
It is an a4 because it has a removable carry handle
No it’s an A3! The A4 had the knights M5 rail. I was an infantryman I would know.
@@850spirates3 oh the handguards are different noted
og Torigaming. com yes sir. I prefer the round hand guards as long as I’m not attaching anything. Just a comfortable feel
Regarding 1:31 for clarification, on the original M16A1 rifle, its barrel had a one twist along 12 inches as its stabilizing gyroscopic spin for the 55 grain bullet. However on the next generation M16A2 rifle, its barrel had a faster one twist along 7 inches as its stabilizing gyroscopic spin for the new 62 grain bullet.
Thanks for this very informed stuff!!!
You Sir!!! Are By Far One The Best Gun Channels Hands Down!!! Ive enjoyed your gun videos and some of your prep vids for years now ,Thank you
AR15 in it's classic configuration, is an excellent grab and go rifle. No need for optics to worry about batteries and zeroing. I have always trained myself to shoot well with iron sights. Long Live the AR15/M16.
Just bought one with a slab receiver , this one here looks in outstanding condition.. thanks how true favorite to shoot...
Bought my new back in 93' and still have it.
I knew I loved your accent! South Carolinan is the best of the lot. Great review. Built my A2 and love it to death!
A Southern California Yankee.
I love this gun so much. I want one.
Own one myself love it.
Thank you for the information i just got one H BAR
Working on my first Hbar build now. Thumbs way up!
+GEC7.62X39 you wouldn't happen to live in communist-MD too would you? lol
Beautiful Gun!
Great, professional review, thumbs-up!
Love it, got a Stag Arms HBAR 4L, its more accurate and only a bit heavier than the rifle I was issued when active Army. I was pleased to find an American made left-handed model. Not big on a lot of accessories but I did upgrade a few things and she eats everything I feed her. 20" is the only way to go!!
Love it!
Sootch00, the sights were upgraded with an elevation knob, the peep sights stayed the same, the big sights is for night time shooting and 300 meters and the small one is for +300 meters and day time
That is my favourite rifle. Can't wait till I'm 18
I've got a Colt Sporter Competition HBAR with a 1 in 9 twist, shoots like a winner.
Love this rifle, I had the Colt A2 with the fixed handle and bayonet lug. It's a pre-ban here in Kalifornia and I lost it in a boating accident. :)
Great vid, Sootch. Keepem coming.
Anyone interested in an AR should keep an eye out for pawns, and trade-ins at their local gun shop, also gun shows - and the newspaper classifieds are a good idea.
I got a helluva deal on the used one i picked up.
Hey sootch. i love these videos bro. I'm probably joining the army soon, and i have some friends already in. I've convinced them that the AR15 is a good platform considering all the possibilities for customization. (7.62 uppers, P90 uppers, butt stocks, pistol grips, triggers, hand guards, sights, etc)
Thanks for the interesting video. I built my first Ar-15 about 15 years ago. It was in A2 configuration and i loved how accurate it was at the range. Sold all my guns in 2011 to finance move here to NC and i have just started a low budget Ar-15 build project.
I am using a FMK AR-1 Extreme polymer lower I bought locally for $49.00 and i just this week received my lower parts kit from PSA for an additional $49.00 and everything fit perfectly. I live on much more limited income now so i need to stretch this build out over quite some time.
Next month I plan on buying A2 butt stock assembly from Joeboboutfitters for $54.99.
After that i have to make a big decision. Initially i was going to try and make this build as much like the M-16A1 I had when i was in the US Army in 70s and 80s. However after checking it seems A1 upper and SP-1 barrel will be a bit expensive.
Palmetto State Armory has 16" barreled Flat Top upper assembly for $199.00 . This does not include BCG or charging handle.
I would now prefer to have a full 20" HBAR for the accuracy at the range. Do you know where I can get a 20" HBAR upper assembly for about same price as the 16" Upper assembly at PSA?
PSA does not have any in stock and it seems most companies gravitate to the carbine barrels.
If I have to go with a 16" barrel will i be sacrificing much in way of accuracy out to 200 yds?
I will probably do most of my shooting at 100 yds as my knees can not handle walk out much further
to post my targets.
Thanks
First rifle I ever shot..... Good gun there.
I like the way the old Vietnam model looks for some reason. Maybe because all them 80s movies and don't forget V the TV show.
Love my Colt MT 6700. Thanks Sootch00
He's so still, he looks like a picture between every shot
Good stuff as always Sootch.
thank you for the look at the Colt AR15A2 my bother has a M4 and i and thinking ether a M4 or a AR15 this vid help alot thank you.
My grandpa gave me a H bar delta several years ago, it came with a bayonet lug, factory cheek riser, a ten power scope and a metal case. I cant find any info on it but its a damn nice rifle.
The faster the projectile is traveling, the flatter its trajectory, the less time it takes to get to the target, the more energy it possesses, the more force needed to change its velocity and the less time a force can act on it.
How far out we had five years imagine how much we will come in fine more
Own two pre-bans AR 15 A2 Hbar sporters, both 1985s. Boy they both tack drive. With great optics. Love them. Freedom and liberty 🇺🇲
Great rifle I have a mark one best ar15 I've ever had.
I’m putting an hbar upper (found one at a pawn shop) on an Anderson lower for my first build.
i love these plain like this i think theyr beatifull
good video. learned alot
1/12 twist is actually slower than 1/7... I am sure that was just a slip of tongue, just pointing it out.
These are VERY good guns. I had a C.A.R. and it shot 3/8" of a inch at 100 yards.
With just otc ammo
THANK YOU SO MUCH. I LEARNED A LOT. YOU ARE MY FAVORITE UTUBER. HOPE I CAN HAVE THE HONOR OF MEETING YOU IN PERSON SOMEDAY. KEEP UP THE GOOD REVIEWS
That's not an a2 clone! It has an a2 delta ring & an a2 handguard, but an a1 triangle retaining cap. The main thing ur misinformed about is what an Hbar is. Hbar mean "heavy barrel", specifically used for match rifles. The a2 def had a thicker barrel, but at the top 6" (.750" diameter compared to the m16a1s .620" pencil barrel) to improve strength & reliability. Also, A2s di not have removable carry handles. m16a3s do. In fact, the removable carry handle mod is what changed the rifles classification to, a3! Then the addition of the KAC quad rail & removable carry handle changed the rifles classification to the m16a4 service rifle we know today. The only service rifle I know of with a 1:7 Hbar & meant for combat operations (not competition), is the SAM-R (Squad Advanced Marksman-Rifle). The heavy barrel w/tight twist rate stabilizes heavier match grade ammo & reduces barrel whip improving accuracy & are only Issued to Snipers & Squad Designated Marksmans. The rifle in ur video is basically an ar15 a3 clone, with a match Hbar prolly with a 1:9 twist ratio for 223 rem. & 55 grain NATO ammo.
Sootch, 1 in 7 is actually a faster twist rate then 1 in 12. It means 1 turn in 7 inches vs 1 turn in 12 inches. So a 1 in 7 or a 1 in 8 barrel twist in a shorter length of the barrel then a 1 in 12 and give greater rotational speed to the bullet. This works well especially in shorter barreled AR's and allows heavier bullet weights, those above 62 or 69 grains, like the 77 grainers that are popular for longer range competition.
Too slow you mean. 1/12 twist was too slow to stabilize the heavier bullets. I thought that the A2 had a fixed handguard? Also, I have a M4gery, BCM with a 16 inch 1/7 twist barrel that shoots accurately out to 700 yards with 77 gr bullets.
+ung427 1/12 will stabilize everything up to about 62 grains.
Richard Garnache You can kill with a .22 but at 700 yards I'd say a .308 would be better.
Richard Garnache Not much.
+ung427 part of the reason that the M4 isnt good at anything past 400M's is in my opinion because the M4 with that 14 inch barrel could never reach the same speeds the M16A2's could. this makes you have to hold higher up because bullet drop would be much more apparent for an M4. not only that but studies in the 1960's concluded that the 5.56 became slightly unstable when used in a barrel shorter than 20 in unless it had a super strict groove twist rate.
@@iroekyjHD 6 Years later, now I have a 20 inch again. Looks just like Sooch00's.
I have a 1973 Virgin HBAR A2, according to Colt website!
@makman1962 Spot on on the twist rate...I find that the 1 in 9 is best for my needs...Thanks and God bless...
Probably the most important change on the H BAR Sporter is the mod to the bolt carrier. The rear end of the hammer opening in the M16 trips the auto sear, on this one they milled that surface away so a bolt carrier from this wont trip an auto sear. This was because ATF made "FA Bolt Carriers" into naughty parts if you put them in an AR15; though they've changed their minds on the matter now, and they are no longer considered "naughty".
Scotch I used to live in Greenville and in easley God I miss that area ...
That appears to be a stock A4 minus the bayonet lug. Love the A4!!!
Nice! I just built this AR15 from a parts kit using a Battle Born billet stripped lower. However, I went even more old school and used an A2 20" HBAR upper that does not have the removable carry handle. I would love to fit it with the original style triangular hand guard if it will fit. Anyway, nice rifle! Looks just like my build.
What do think of the A2 H Bar rifle of a SHTF Survival firearm?Would It be a good choice?
You get the most out of the AR platform, sure it is heavier than alot of AR's nowadays, it isn't heavier than the rifles that came before it and those were carried by people who did not eat as well, knew less about fitness than and they did it just fine
Add a .22LR conversion kit when you want to hunt small game and you're doing great.
Yeah they're great for when the s*** hits the fan, I own two pre ban AR-15 h-bar. They both shoot 3/8 of an inch at a hundred yards. In other words they tack Drive.
Hell yes, don't forget the bayonet, very useful to get the bad guy to move. ✌😎❤
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It looks beautifull
Yeah I had a Colt competition h-bar shot at Lefty first time hundred yards I hit the target every time
This was designed for the Marine Corps....I had one 🤘🏾
I want one just like that!!
All time favorite. I always prefer AR15 in the classic configuration. Love the 20" barrel for maximum effectiveness for the 5,56/.223 round.
Sootch00, please do a review on the ARMALITE AR15A2.
Nice review on the colt H Bar AR-15, it's cool to see this old school rifle being reviewed ,
I also have a colt Ar-15 but without
The heavy barrel, I believe you have the target model, love my honey had her since 1985
USMC 1974-76
Good review sootch00.
Notice the pin above the selector. Good old Colt decided to put in a sear block inside the receiver. They also milled the underside of the bolt carrier all the way to the rear so the bottom of the bolt carrier from the firing pin back is open. And they also put a non-mil-spec screw in place of the front take down pin. The Colt Sporter Match HBAR R6601 also came with two 20 round magazines - which were pop-riveted to a 5 round capacity. Grrrrrr...
Very nice rifle bro!
I love my Colt AR15-A2 and its 20" barrel. 400 m hits on a range target is no problem . In fact I am consistant with getting a solid grouping under 8" diameter with Iron sights
the differences between the m4/m16 are next to nil. the max effective on a point target of the m16 is 600, the m4 is 550. the reason for that is the accuracy due to the shortened sight radius of the iron sights.
when i was issued the m4 i had no problem qualifying expert on the range, at 500yds.
my 20" HBAR A2 is 9+ lbs without any accessories. not a light rifle at all. Add another pound for the Leatherwood CMR and a few oz for the magpul heatshield and ProTac lamp (190 lumens brightness), and this daggone thing is around 11lbs. BUT, that's what I wanted. A 'do-everything' rifle. 5m to 500m. with my back problems, recoil with a 6lbs AR is too much for me, but my BBW (big beautiful weapon) kicks like a 22lr. I don't intend to clear rooms with it, I have pistols for that role.
I've got one of those! It's from the preban days, but when Colt tried to self-regulate by putting a larger .315" pin in the front. Kind of a pain in the rear because you need adapter pins when using a mil-spec upper, but at least it's preban so I can put an "evil" collapsible stock on it and keep my "evil" flash hider in this repressive state.
my colt has a jewell trigger a UTI quad rail super free float tube for the price sub moa groups with 52.grians bthps varget mill brass 69ers if its windy i have a 1/9 twist and a target crown ... helps having good glass good vid dude thanks
Thats the style I like the best over one's with multi position stock. 20"barrel and what the Diameco now Colt Canada's C-7 was based on for the Canadian Forces and we removed the carry handle and put on a C79 Optical sight by Elcan.
Good video, but I'd like to point several things if I may. First, the rear flip sight...the smaller aperture is for normal distance shooting out to max, and the larger aperture is for low light shooting, and is used while wearing the protective mask.
The version you have is an A4, as it has a removable carrying handle, the A2s have a fixed carrying handle.
My unit was one of the first to receive the new A2s in 1986 while I was stationed in Germany. I carried an A4 in Iraq in 2005 on OIF III.
Great video sootch00
the larger aperture is for up to 200, hence the name the 02 sight, for 0-200.
You also get more "stopping power" out of the 20in. You gain about 120fps per inch you increase the barrel length. So 16-20in is about a 480fps difference, which is pritty substancial when you are talking about a small cartrige.
1 in 12 inches was to slow with the heavier bullets. A misquote by Mr.Sootch.
Real nice program.
I have the Colt hbar as seen in your video. It’s an excellent rifle. I shot it in the USMC. What is a good optic to mount on the fixed carry handle. I thought of Acog but they are super expensive. Thanks! Good video
The carbine to beat right now is the Windham HBC (heavy barrel carbine). What a great AR.
I thought the H2 had a fixed carry handle/sight and the H3 had a flat top with removable carry handle/sight?
I'd absolutely love to have a .308 AR-10 that looks EXACTLY like the Colt AR15A4.
Like the video . I love my "Banned" Colt Target Match HBAR Flat top. No flashhider though 87(
It still shoots better then I do .
@mycaddigo Golden tiger and Barnaul are two laquered- coated types of ammo that are in new production, and I have broke an extractor on wolf ammo before... Also sometimes the primers in the Russian stuff throw crap down the barrel that can clog a gas tube...
Sootch, I think you are a little mistaken. The HBAR was never used in military service. The heavy barrel is a civilian only feature. The military M16A2 used a "Government Profile" barrel that is much slimmer than the HBAR. The only part that is "heavy" on an A2 is the visible part past the FSB, while under the handguards the barrel retains the normal barrel weight. The biggest reason for the end of the barrel being made heavy is that during Vietnam there were a lot of rifles that had -cont
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@semiautoriflelover Really? Which branch is using that? It just sounds a little light for a sure-kill. No doubt you could hit the target, but are they having good kill effect with them?
What you think of an HBAR style AR15A2 for a shtf battle/survival firearm?
Owner since 1990.
Great info I purchased the same Match Target HBAR 1/7 over 10 years ago when I had money . Its still NIB but not for long . Now that im broke and old I have every day shoot and clean. From what I have read the 1/7 with a 20in. will stableize all 5.56 NATO loads better then any other twist ratio . But my rifle differs in two ways , a fixed so called carry handle and no flash hider. The first inch of the barrel is stepped though
+Philip Edwards I have the same one, The other thing is the block behind the hammer that is pined and says Colt on top and can only use the slotted BCG. I think that was during the Clinton ban, You are right about the 1/7 twist. About the flash hider or compensator I don't know why it didn't come with one. Stay safe
I didn't purchase the Colt A2 H Bar, however, I did get my hands on a Superior Arms S-15 H-Bar. Exact same configuration, different manufacturer. I love the gun. The A2 style, to me, is much more appealing than an M4 style carbine. Likewise, as you said, these types of guns make target shooting a breeze. 100 yards feels like 10. Can't get enough the gun.
I agree I like the fixed stocks and longer, heavier barrels of the A2 style rifles much, much better than M4's
1. I believe HBAR stands for “Heavy Barrel AR”
2. The USMC did not adopt the HBAR (as standard issue). The M16A2 has a “government profile” barrel which is pretty silly: same as an A1 barrel but with increased thickness at gas block and forward.
3. The M4 has a 14.5” barrel, not 14.”
4. The government M4s have a 1/7 twist rate just like the 20” barrels.
5. M4s and 16” ARs can effectively be used past 300m.
I had one of those. Bought in 93 sold it 94. Cleaning it was a nightmare. To many tiny places for carbon to hide, but it did shoot well. The Seabees' had the A1 until I got out in 94. Another difference is the A1 have full auto and the A2 had 3 round burst control....The Marines I talked to hated the A2