I learned about pecking from one of the tool makers I worked with. The job was drilling .062" diameter vent holes in 1/2" thick stainless bearing housings. The bits were snapping because they would wander. After center drilling the hole to start it, he set up the drill press to run at the highest speed possible. If I remember correctly it was around 5000 rpm. Then he advanced the drill about .020" into the predrilled centerbit hole and pulled it back clear of the hole so the chips would clear. He repeated the process until the vent hole was through. No wander and the bits didn't hreak. It was tedious, but no where near as bad as trying to remove a broken bit. 😎
Thanks for the shoutout. Great visual on how drill bits wander around. The pointing device made me laugh. Ah yes, 1957 was the year I was born. I turned 62 last month. :) The tool came out nice as usual. Great work.
Hi John, I watched your video and the tried explaining to my wife that I need to keep my tool rigid so it doesn’t wobble around in the hole, and she just walked away laughing. Strange sense of humour that woman. 😂😂😂 keep up the good work mate. Cheers Stuart 🇦🇺
Great job! Running machines and especially metal working teaches you a lot about flex in materials and structures! You will never view anything as rigid. It's like the matrix, you're looking at things in a way most people don't!
Hi Chris! I can't find it now but one time I saw a super High speed Slow motion shot of the two bits side by side in action! The deflection was insane! We really have no idea how much that makes a difference! Thanks!!!!!
Another day, another awesome video on an obscure, but fascinating topic: deflection. Thank God for your level of output -- I always look forward to your videos.
Good stuff, thanks for sharing, always learn something with you. Wish Bangor was closer, I love those meets and would love to hang out with everyone. Take care!
Your the the reason me and a lot of guys and galls tune in. Your a great teacher and I learn a lot from you. But your positivity is very inspirational too (especially for a kind of pessimist like me). I think three hours is really quick, it would have took me so much longer! I really wish I could be there this weekend!!!!
My friend your work is second to none. Absolutely truly enjoy watching your passion in bringing back these good old tools when they were made to last. Thank you for sharing your time to share with us. God bless.
I LIKE my Channel-locks and that one is a DANDY! As for routers. I've got one of the 3-phase Craftsman jobs like you started out with but that was when Roto-zip came out and I ended up getting a DeWalt equivalent that can also take Roro-zip OR 1/4 inch bits. Small enough for freehand or stable enough with the little stand for bigger stuff. But I always keep the big boy in mind, just in case. Thanks CS! Good job and mighty fine!
i like how you explain things such as the drill bits and what can happen you remind me of a good shop teacher that takes the time with the kids and show them tricks of the trade. i learned a lot from my shop teacher back when i was in high school. i think you would make a great shop teacher and the kids would learn a lot from you if they showed the interest .
Channellock is very good wrench ....I've got four of them 2 430 one bigger and the small one and 8 inch lineman pliers and a couple of side cutters ..👍Here in Europe is hard to find US tools ..We are full of German ,French and Italian tools ...Very nice restoration..👏
Very nicely done Scoutcrafter on the 1959 Channel Lock plier restoration. I am working on restoring a tire chain crimping pliers. They are patented July 27 1913 from the Weed Company the originator of metal automotive tire chains. I'm taking time with it but it is so far coming out very nice compared to how it started. I got it from a man in the tire industry who new I love antique tools. It belonged to his father and this man didn't know what it was. I kept looking at the crimper and somehow thought I knew what it could of been used for. After about 2minutes of online hunting of what type of tool it could be i made the surprising discovery that it was the original tire chain crimping tool! What a find!
Love the video as usual, love all the restoration vids but I've got to say you have so much knowledge and can tell a story quite well, it'd be nice to see some more tutorial or just disruption and explanation vids on different tools and machines. Whatever you do though I'm sure will continue to entertain and educate as you always do. Thanks
Hi Mark! They aren't difficult to do because there are lots of semi flat areas that the belt sander just loves, however they are a bit hard and do require a fresh belt to make any progress. They really do look so different all cleaned up! Thanks so much!
I know alot of the things you talk about but you always come up with something I didnt know. Thats why I like to watch your videos. If I center punched both sides of anything there is no way the holes would match up. lol Thats good advice on the router too. Things I never thought of.
The need to drill precision holes is often forgotten by the general public today as we use a cordless drill. In the 1930s the egg beater drill was used for precision drilling as it gave the engineers a much better feel for the job. Great restoration of the water pump pliers.
Hi Tony! You are so right, power tools are great but since we lose the feel of drilling we can often get into trouble fast! Just like the need for a sharp bit, power tools can make up for things like dull bits! =) Thanks Tony!!!!!
Liked it when you said let's get to a restoration because that's what most of you watch for! My guilty secret......... The walks round the basement and tantalising glimpses of all your stash of stuff! 😳
The pointer! 😂 I always love seeing that thing....reminds me of the trinkets I used to get from the dentist for sitting through a rough appointment as a kid.
Hi Christina! That was nice of the dentist to do that! Makes a big difference to a child! Like a lollypop at the barber! =) My Barber shop has two barbers, Joe and Leo... Brothers in law. Leo is the real barber and always gives a good cut, Joe on the other hand leaves everyone looking like a forth grader... =D In fact it's funny to see people sitting in Joe's chair getting beet red knowing they are getting the worst cut ever! So one day this man about 40ish gets a haircut by Joe and is beet red and just so upset you can see it, all of us waiting knew the feeling as we all made that mistake ONCE. So as the man is paying Joe and ready to leave one of the old timers says "Give him a lollypop Joe" and we all couldn't help but laugh.... =D Good times!
I love the older channellocks, these days they're significantly thicker in the jaws and I greatly prefer the thinner jaws for plumbing. I prefer the nut and bolt, as well.
Another great video of invaluable information and a awesome restoration. Each video you do is like a seminar and wealth of knowledge couldn't be better thanks for sharing as always scout :D
When I started my apprenticeship 40 years ago I earned $100 per week - I was encouraged to buy quality tools by the senior tradesmen - I splashed-out on a pair of Channellock pliers - cost me $35 - these were unfortunately lost at sea nearly 20 years ago...but that's another story. Best regards, Clive
You hit it again ! A couple of observations: 1) I have a friend who works on guitars and mandolins and uses a Dremel with a router attachment to cut away old purpling. Of course, this is delicate work that doesn't demand a lot of power of the router. 2) Your discussion of the Channel Locks made me give my own tools a closer look. I was surprised to find my two larger tools were made by Diamond. They have green plastic handle coatings.
Yes! The Dremel is great for very fine work because it's light and easy to maneuver... However once the load is hard the bit is too delicate... As for the Diamonds, they were a very popular pliers but they used a different system for adjusting the opening of the jaws... I have a pair too! =) Thanks!!!!!!!
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I watch your videos not only for the restorations but for the extras, such as drilling and bits wandering. You have so many tools how long does it take you to decide which tools you are going to use, as if you only have one you can only use one.When my grandchildren come round and want to watch a film there is so much choice that it takes them an hour to decide.
Hi Tony! You are so right, There are so many ways to achieve the same results... I usually just go by the mood I'm in... =) There are some favorites I have and look forward to using like the Lathe and the Dake! =) Thanks Tony!!!!!!!!!!
Love these Channellock pliers. I'm from Europe and they were hard to find here, but I had a few of them during my wrenching life, they have a good grip on a nut.
Talk about a coincidence. I just bought a new pair of 420s this week, and taking a page from your playbook, I softened the edges and grind marks on the belt sander. Feels so much better in the hand now.
Hi Brian! Unfortunately the new Channellocks have lots of sharp edges... It's a shame because they are a quality tool but their fit and finish definitely is lagging! =) I bet they are just awesome now that you added some finishing! Thanks very much!!!!!
Good show and tell as always. Around here in the Northwest there is lots of good used tools to be had. I have picked up many pairs of Channel lock brand pliers over the years. They really must be good steal because the teeth are almost always in good condition with little or no wear.
Hi Chuck! That is it in a nutshell! The TEETH! That is the difference between the Old and New Vise Grips too! The modern ones look good but the teeth are soft compared to the old ones!! Thanks!!!!!!!!!
Oh man. I missed the dremel video and I was was thinking the dremel router attachment turned your router into a pencil grinder, and not turned your dremel into a router haha. I have to agree, trim routers are a good combination of size an ability.
LOL! The prices on some of the knock off trim routers have dropped so much that you can try one out without laying out a lot of money! I have seen them as low as $15! Insane! Once people know they will use such a tool they can go buy a good one! Same with angle grinders! For $20 you are crazy not to just give one a shot and see if you like it! Then you can buy a good one if you do! =) Thanks MB!!!!!!!!!
The pliers turned out great. Wish I could be there to meet you and all the other tool friends. But Kansas is a little far. Have fun and hope to see some video. Thanks
great advice on drill bits friend and loved the Channellock restoration shine shine shine lol PS we hit 75 deg on the west coast of Scotland today i await your next video friend
I just checked and my Channel Lock is a No 420 also. It has a date code of AC. That makes sense because I'm sure my Mom got it before 1957, maybe even as early as 1950 or so. One thing that is odd is that it looks like one handle has the metal pinched a bit at the far end. I should polish it up and maybe tighten the nut and bolt on it. There is no pitting which is great. Thanks for the video on these 420s. - Kathie
Hi Kathie!!! Wow! That is great that you still have them! They really do look nice all cleaned up! The steel was really high quality back then! If I didn't see the date I would never know when they were made! Thanks Kathie!!!!
LOL I know! 2 Hours for me! However it's really a nice ride and if you go early and leave early no traffic! The Sunday traffic is horrible! Well worth the trip, especially for this show. Sleep on it! =)
wow youre so knowledgable. i get such useful information from this channel. ever thought of making playlists categorizing your videos to maybe make it simpler to find certain information?
I'm pretty sure that 1957 was the year that the patent was registered/renewed, not necessarily the year that the wrench was produced. But what a beautiful wrench!
Funny, I was going to ask if the older Channellock pliers had the blue-coated handles. I wonder when that change happened and what their thinking was. ??? I've got to say that I really love their tools. I have a recent set of 430's with a rivet. They are a joy to use, but there is a bit of play that was there from the get-go that I wish was a bit snugger. ...also have some 80's vintage Craftsman slip-joint pliers that resemble 420's with a nut. ...very little play. Do you think Channellock made slip-joint pliers for Craftsman? Anyway, it was lots of fun to watch your restoration! ...and to learn about deflection and bit size. Fantastic. As always, thank you for sharing! I'm sorry that I'll miss the show. Have some fun for me!
Hi Daniel! I know Channellock made pliers for a bunch of tool companies! Most likely Sears too but I can't be sure. It's tough being tool nuts because we see things the average user doesn't, like slop and relieved edges... We are a tool companies worst nightmare! LOL You are going to laugh on tomorrows video! Thanks!!!!!
great job,,i was at the flea market this weekend and bought super cheap set of augar bits usa made and thought of you I think I know you like brace bits.like to send you the sets.thanks tim
I'm not big on safety signage, nor particularly safety. That said, I have one sign over my bench as a constant reminder. It reads, everything is a spring. I was taught that at the very beginning of becoming a machinist. It didn't entirely make sense at the time. As the years go on it makes more and more sense, as does keeping a sign to remind you. My grandfather had a similar saying, there is no such thing as overbuilt.
yeah i have some old proto channelock style wrenches i took from my dad's toolbox. and i have to say i prefer the bolt to the revit. and the new channelock are silk screen. the markings fade away after a bit of use.
Another great job, John! I noticed the square channel in the wrench, in the closing shot going straight up from roughly the nut. It’s past the curved channels for size adjustment so it’s not part of those. What does that feature do?
I think you are right on the money about the trim router. I bought a Bosch trim router and have been highly satisfied. Do you peen the bolt on the tool after assembly? Thanks for the video.
Hi Tony! When reassembling the bolt I use a combination of Loc-Tite and light peening, I find that really does a great job of keeping the right tension and staying secure too! Thanks Tony!!!!!
Those pliers are older than me and I garauntee it take more hours to make look good as new. One thing you have to control is your pace when working any thin bit. To easy to try to muscle them through a project. You bear down and it will walk and many times we try to fast track a job. Again a little effort is needed. Sharpen drill or cutter, add wax to help
Philip you are so right! Going gorilla on a small bit is a sure way to snap her right in the hole opening up a whole new problem!! LOL!!!!!! Just the thought gives me the chills! =-) Thanks!!!!
I bought a Channellock 422 last August from Amazon. The jaw edges are very sharp and very loose. It's always getting stuck when sliding the mechanism. The Channellock name and model number are barely visable. I'm wondering if they slipped in a knock-off somehow. I can't believe it passed QC.
Hi Glen! You are so right! Quality Control is an issue at Channellock these days! I'm going to do a video very soon on this problem! =) Thanks so much!!!!!!!!!
Deflection in aluminum sheetmetal is always an issue. I find high speed drills work best to counteract it. My main drills are 3800 to 6000rpm. You can press the rivets in newer tools to get rid of the slop.
The plumbers (2 plus their boss) who worked on our remodel many years ago swore by ChannelLocks--probably their most used not-speciality tool. Still made in the USA (some small town in PA, I think).
On the newer channel lock model do you think they put a ribbit to have less play over time? Or do you think becuse it's more cost effective? The reason I'm asking is because a lot Pittsburgh pliers at Harborfreight have the nut and bolt and your able to adjust them if they do have play. Or is there no real difference? Just wondering, love your videos!
Great question! Honestly I have never worn out a pair of pliers... The rivets are great if they are well made like Klein pliers! Their rivets never wear out! The bad part about nuts is they can loosen up over time... I think a good pair of pliers will last one lifetime with either design.. =) Thanks!!!!!
Scoutcrafter, have you ever considered creating a Facebook group? 1. It would give you a new platform for posting and sharing videos. 2. It could easily increase your viewership. People will definitely be sharing your videos. 3. It would give you a platform for greater interaction with viewers and subscribers. 4. Individual members could post and ask questions about projects, tools, repairs, tools they are interested in buying, and tool related problems. I could really use a group like that to learn about the different blades made for an angle grinder, and how to use them. I’m sure people around the world could help teach me. I started 2 military history groups only 4 years ago, and have a total of 55,000 members today, so let me know if you need input or suggestions if you decide to start a group!!!!
For instance, I stumbled across a pair of channel locks with handles that are at least 3 feet long! A Scoutcrafter FB group would be the perfect place to ask about them, and a picture too!!!
I found one of my Grandfather's old pair of Channelocks today...do you have a detailed how to video or blog on what's needed to restore them? I would like to do it but I don't want to ruin them either.
I use the same procedure with all tools... First- Wire Brush the Pliers, Second-Use the belt sander to get rid of imperfections.. Third-Polish them on the buffer! Same procedure for all tools! =) I did a bunch of pliers in past videos! They all follow the same steps! Thanks!!!!!!!!!
Trim router on the shopping list now. Ty! Any thoughts on band/table saws and induction vs universal motors? I burnt out my first table saw trying to resaw a 2x4... Lesson learned there ... But not sure quite where I need to go next. I want to be able to resaw hardwood to make bows and spear shafts, I have a 12 inch thick piece of black locust. I know I can split it into quarters with wedges, but I'd really like to be able to resaw the quarters... I'm looking at building a table saw but I don't know what I should do for power. I'm pretty sure I have 3 phase power (still have to ask hydro) but like do I need a 5 hp motor? Or is 2 hp enough? Or am I missing something? I'm wary of putting more money in a table saw atm ... But it's because I think I really need a band saw ... But I like skil 's wormdrive... Not sure what to do. I basically want a saw that makes any wood that sees it crap its pants...but not so big that I want to crap mine trying to use it... (pardon the expression) and I guess, what is the effect of deflection on torque?
The Sky forge, if your into bow making , and want to easily rip down large timber into bow staves I would advise you to invest in as large a bandsaw as you can a ford, if your talking about timber 12" thick you'll need a machine well on top of its work,definately something industrial. As scout says ,rigidity ,rigidity, having personally owned several large bandsaw in the past, I would recommend them over a circular saw for what you are doing, and once you've used one you'll wish you had one sooner ,oh, and usually their safer to use than a large table saw, But *that's down to the operator. Hope this helps. Kind regards. Stuart.
@@stuartlockwood9645 Roger. I hear u loud n clear Stuart. I think I'm going to build one. My only concern is do I need 5 hp? Less? More? I want to buy the motor and build the machine around it.
Hello SF! The way to go is definitely Induction, Brushed motors for table saws just are way too noisy! My old Craftsman is more then strong enough to handle almost any job! The ket is to have a Good Carbide tipped blade so as not to strain the motor! The problem with HP ratings is they aren't to be trusted... If your table saw is light enough to move around without much effort then I can guarantee the motor is light duty. The table saw motor should be big and heavy! =) The table top should be cast iron and the saw should cost well over $400! LOL The light duty "Contractor saws" that are being sold today just don't have the power! =) Thanks!!!!!!!! Good saw and good blade and you can have a great time!!!!
I was at Lowe's awhile back interested in getting the larger set of channelocks. I forget the model. The huge ones. But I found that every single set they had, in all sizes, had damage in the EXACT spot. Some sort of packaging fail.
Hi Jesse!!!! You are very smart to look thru the different packages!!! I too bought a pair last year and had to look thru all the models to get one that was decent! The fit and finish really varies!! Thanks Jesse!
Dremel router? Firmly in the gimmick section. BTW great advice on deflection - is that one of the reasons some thinner drill bits tend to snap? Q. Are motors with a centre shank more 'chattery' than offset [belt driven] machines e.g. drill press etc?
Hi Keith! We have all had that issue with small drill bits breaking! What a hassle! Especially trying to get the bit out! Yikes! I have found that since using the Tap Magic cutting fluid and not going gorilla on my bits I have been super lucky! Also I prefer HSS over Cobalt for most drilling... Some belt driven machines can be a problem because of a bent belt! I will address that on Monday for you Keith!!!!!!! Thanks!!!!!!!!
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LMAO!!!!!!!!! =D I'm dying here! Thanks for the laugh!!!!!
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far too much of this sort of thing on the internet! :P
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I learned about pecking from one of the tool makers I worked with. The job was drilling .062" diameter vent holes in 1/2" thick stainless bearing housings. The bits were snapping because they would wander. After center drilling the hole to start it, he set up the drill press to run at the highest speed possible. If I remember correctly it was around 5000 rpm. Then he advanced the drill about .020" into the predrilled centerbit hole and pulled it back clear of the hole so the chips would clear. He repeated the process until the vent hole was through. No wander and the bits didn't hreak.
It was tedious, but no where near as bad as trying to remove a broken bit. 😎
You did a beautiful job on those channellock 420s. They are one of my favorites
Great information, every time I watch one of your videos I learn something.
Thanks for the shoutout. Great visual on how drill bits wander around. The pointing device made me laugh. Ah yes, 1957 was the year I was born. I turned 62 last month. :) The tool came out nice as usual. Great work.
Hi Wyatt! Retirement is treating you very well! Although as a Pilot you had a awesome job!!!! Thanks!!!!!
@@ScoutCrafter It was a great job but lots of stress so time to relax a little. :) Plus working with hobbies is more fun.
Hi John, I watched your video and the tried explaining to my wife that I need to keep my tool rigid so it doesn’t wobble around in the hole, and she just walked away laughing. Strange sense of humour that woman. 😂😂😂 keep up the good work mate. Cheers Stuart 🇦🇺
Great job! Running machines and especially metal working teaches you a lot about flex in materials and structures! You will never view anything as rigid. It's like the matrix, you're looking at things in a way most people don't!
I used to not believe a 1/2 inch shank could make a difference over a 1/4" but its a huge difference! Keep preaching rigidity! :-)
Hi Chris! I can't find it now but one time I saw a super High speed Slow motion shot of the two bits side by side in action! The deflection was insane! We really have no idea how much that makes a difference! Thanks!!!!!
Another day, another awesome video on an obscure, but fascinating topic: deflection.
Thank God for your level of output -- I always look forward to your videos.
You may be the best at restoring tools but you ARE the drill instructor. 😀 Thanks for another nice video!
Hi George! LOL I'm just glad you aren't falling asleep by the end of the video! =D Thanks so much!!!!!!
Good stuff, thanks for sharing, always learn something with you. Wish Bangor was closer, I love those meets and would love to hang out with everyone. Take care!
There are a number of collectors groups across the country. You might try checking Google.
Your the the reason me and a lot of guys and galls tune in. Your a great teacher and I learn a lot from you. But your positivity is very inspirational too (especially for a kind of pessimist like me). I think three hours is really quick, it would have took me so much longer!
I really wish I could be there this weekend!!!!
Hi Alex! The funny thing is a new pair is about $15- so sometimes you have to calculate about 3 hours labor! LOL Thanks!!!!!!!!
My friend your work is second to none. Absolutely truly enjoy watching your passion in bringing back these good old tools when they were made to last. Thank you for sharing your time to share with us. God bless.
Hi Phillip! Thanks so much! I am so glad you enjoy the videos!!!!!!!!!
Lmao when you stuck the finger pointer in the hole! 😂😂😂
Great tips as always John! 👍🏻
LOL When I was reviewing the tape I had a god laugh! LOL
ScoutCrafter Lol!
Hey did you get my email?
I LIKE my Channel-locks and that one is a DANDY! As for routers. I've got one of the 3-phase Craftsman jobs like you started out with but that was when Roto-zip came out and I ended up getting a DeWalt equivalent that can also take Roro-zip OR 1/4 inch bits. Small enough for freehand or stable enough with the little stand for bigger stuff. But I always keep the big boy in mind, just in case. Thanks CS! Good job and mighty fine!
Hi Lewie! The little hand held router trimmers are so handy! I really love them! Thanks!!!!!!!!!
@@ScoutCrafter I do very little actual woodworking nexcept firewood but when I do the little guy really comes in handy. A Red Green motto you know!
i like how you explain things such as the drill bits and what can happen you remind me of a good shop teacher that takes the time with the kids and show them tricks of the trade. i learned a lot from my shop teacher back when i was in high school. i think you would make a great shop teacher and the kids would learn a lot from you if they showed the interest .
Hi Steve! I really wished I could have attended a tech school of some sort! The lessons learned there are so valuable! Thanks Steve!
Channellock is very good wrench ....I've got four of them 2 430 one bigger and the small one and 8 inch lineman pliers and a couple of side cutters ..👍Here in Europe is hard to find US tools ..We are full of German ,French and Italian tools ...Very nice restoration..👏
Very nicely done Scoutcrafter on the 1959 Channel Lock plier restoration. I am working on restoring a tire chain crimping pliers. They are patented July 27 1913 from the Weed Company the originator of metal automotive tire chains. I'm taking time with it but it is so far coming out very nice compared to how it started. I got it from a man in the tire industry who new I love antique tools. It belonged to his father and this man didn't know what it was. I kept looking at the crimper and somehow thought I knew what it could of been used for. After about 2minutes of online hunting of what type of tool it could be i made the surprising discovery that it was the original tire chain crimping tool! What a find!
That's awesome! Nice to bring a tool back to life!!!!!
The pliers came out beautiful as always!! Great tips throughout! I'll see you on Saturday! Looking forward to it and some nice weather!
Hi Steve! It's going to be AWESOME!!! Weather looks good so far! Bring extra money and a backpack! LOL
I'm bringing my canvas tool bags and plenty of dough!!!
Love the video as usual, love all the restoration vids but I've got to say you have so much knowledge and can tell a story quite well, it'd be nice to see some more tutorial or just disruption and explanation vids on different tools and machines. Whatever you do though I'm sure will continue to entertain and educate as you always do. Thanks
The Channel Locks look great.
Hi Mark! They aren't difficult to do because there are lots of semi flat areas that the belt sander just loves, however they are a bit hard and do require a fresh belt to make any progress. They really do look so different all cleaned up! Thanks so much!
Nice clean up and a beautiful restoration. I was born in 56 so I know how old those channel locks are.
LOL That was a great time for all products!!!!!! The 50's were great! Thanks!!!!
I know alot of the things you talk about but you always come up with something I didnt know. Thats why I like to watch your videos. If I center punched both sides of anything there is no way the holes would match up. lol Thats good advice on the router too. Things I never thought of.
Hello SB! Thanks so much! You would be very surprised how easy it is to meet the hole in the middle! Looks harder than it really is! =D
THANK YOU...for sharing.
Great video as usual! Thumbs up from me👍🏻👍🏻
Thanks Tony!!!!!!
The need to drill precision holes is often forgotten by the general public today as we use a cordless drill. In the 1930s the egg beater drill was used for precision drilling as it gave the engineers a much better feel for the job. Great restoration of the water pump pliers.
Hi Tony! You are so right, power tools are great but since we lose the feel of drilling we can often get into trouble fast! Just like the need for a sharp bit, power tools can make up for things like dull bits! =) Thanks Tony!!!!!
Another great video. The pliers turned out really nice! 👍🏻
Thank you Scout, I really enjoy your video' s and learn a lot. I just love old Pliers they are just beautifull !!!
They really came out like new! Thanks so much!!!!!
Great explanation on the routers! I have a 50/50 record with getting those nuts off of old pliers. I like the longer videos....great stuff. Cheers
Hi Joe!! =D A small bit of heat on the peening, then some oil really helps them off... Thanks!!!!!!!!!
Liked it when you said let's get to a restoration because that's what most of you watch for! My guilty secret......... The walks round the basement and tantalising glimpses of all your stash of stuff! 😳
LOL Thanks so much!!!!!!!!!!
Excellent tutorial about drilling, there is always something to learn from watching your channel. The channel locks came out very nice.👍
Hi Frank! 1957 was a good year! =D
The pointer! 😂
I always love seeing that thing....reminds me of the trinkets I used to get from the dentist for sitting through a rough appointment as a kid.
Hi Christina! That was nice of the dentist to do that! Makes a big difference to a child! Like a lollypop at the barber! =) My Barber shop has two barbers, Joe and Leo... Brothers in law. Leo is the real barber and always gives a good cut, Joe on the other hand leaves everyone looking like a forth grader... =D In fact it's funny to see people sitting in Joe's chair getting beet red knowing they are getting the worst cut ever! So one day this man about 40ish gets a haircut by Joe and is beet red and just so upset you can see it, all of us waiting knew the feeling as we all made that mistake ONCE. So as the man is paying Joe and ready to leave one of the old timers says "Give him a lollypop Joe" and we all couldn't help but laugh.... =D Good times!
Very interesting! I am looking forward to meeting you!
Hi Joe! Me too!! You are going to love it!! So will your Dog!!!!!! =)
I love the older channellocks, these days they're significantly thicker in the jaws and I greatly prefer the thinner jaws for plumbing. I prefer the nut and bolt, as well.
Another great video of invaluable information and a awesome restoration. Each video you do is like a seminar and wealth of knowledge couldn't be better thanks for sharing as always scout :D
Thanks so much LV!
@@ScoutCrafter You are very welcome scout :D
Great info: deflection...Will always remember that...Thank You...Channel lock nice...
Thanks Blackie! You will be muttering "Deflection... Rigidity..." in your sleep!! LOL!!!!!!!!!!
When I started my apprenticeship 40 years ago I earned $100 per week - I was encouraged to buy quality tools by the senior tradesmen - I splashed-out on a pair of Channellock pliers - cost me $35 - these were unfortunately lost at sea nearly 20 years ago...but that's another story. Best regards, Clive
Hi Clive! The amazing thing is they still cost the same! How can the be?
You hit it again ! A couple of observations:
1) I have a friend who works on guitars and mandolins and uses a Dremel with a router attachment to cut away old purpling. Of course, this is delicate work that doesn't demand a lot of power of the router.
2) Your discussion of the Channel Locks made me give my own tools a closer look. I was surprised to find my two larger tools were made by Diamond. They have green plastic handle coatings.
Yes! The Dremel is great for very fine work because it's light and easy to maneuver... However once the load is hard the bit is too delicate... As for the Diamonds, they were a very popular pliers but they used a different system for adjusting the opening of the jaws... I have a pair too! =) Thanks!!!!!!!
I watch your videos not only for the restorations but for the extras, such as drilling and bits wandering. You have so many tools how long does it take you to decide which tools you are going to use, as if you only have one you can only use one.When my grandchildren come round and want to watch a film there is so much choice that it takes them an hour to decide.
Hi Tony! You are so right, There are so many ways to achieve the same results... I usually just go by the mood I'm in... =) There are some favorites I have and look forward to using like the Lathe and the Dake! =) Thanks Tony!!!!!!!!!!
Love these Channellock pliers.
I'm from Europe and they were hard to find here, but I had a few of them during my wrenching life, they have a good grip on a nut.
Talk about a coincidence. I just bought a new pair of 420s this week, and taking a page from your playbook, I softened the edges and grind marks on the belt sander. Feels so much better in the hand now.
Hi Brian! Unfortunately the new Channellocks have lots of sharp edges... It's a shame because they are a quality tool but their fit and finish definitely is lagging! =) I bet they are just awesome now that you added some finishing! Thanks very much!!!!!
Good show and tell as always. Around here in the Northwest there is lots of good used tools to be had. I have picked up many pairs of Channel lock brand pliers over the years. They really must be good steal because the teeth are almost always in good condition with little or no wear.
Hi Chuck! That is it in a nutshell! The TEETH! That is the difference between the Old and New Vise Grips too! The modern ones look good but the teeth are soft compared to the old ones!! Thanks!!!!!!!!!
Thanks for the tips
Awesome video very helpful, good job on the pliers! 👍 👍
Hi Bert! Thanks very much! The older channellocks are often seen for a dollar or so... Amazing!
Thanks again ScoutCrafter, great advice on the router. Channellocks turned out great.
Vaughn
Another excellent tutorial! Thanks for sharing this valuable information.
Thanks John!
I wish so much I could be there to meet you and friends this Saturday! I’ll just have to settle for a video of the meet and greet! Great video!
Hi Wayne! I will make sure you are there with us! (a la Video!) =)
Great advice as always and a beautiful restoration
Thanks so much! 1957! Everything was built awesome back then!!!! =)
Great show.
.lots of good info..thanks..love channel lock pliers.nice resto.
John, Another informative video . Hope you have a great time at the steam show, you and Ginacan wear your matching shirts !
Great vid - thank you ScoutCrafter. Have a nice weekend...kind regards, Clive
You to Clive! Thanks!!!!!
Nice work on the Channellock :]... I just recently bought a BOSCH Trimm Router I only have one bit for it right now :{ ...TFS and Thumbs Up!!
The Channellocks came out nice! Hope to see you Saturday!
11am at the Gazebo!!! (Band Shell) LOL Pickle on a stick!! =D
Great job 👍😎 🤠
Thanks Jim!!!!!!
@@ScoutCrafter You're welcome Sir 🤠
Nice Work, As Always!!
Thanks Bill!!!!!!
Nice video, A suggestion Try using an interleaved flap wheel They're wonderful for cleaning up metal especially on a rounded surface.
Hi Eric! I am going to pick up a few... For lots of different projects! Thanks!!!!!!!!!
Oh man. I missed the dremel video and I was was thinking the dremel router attachment turned your router into a pencil grinder, and not turned your dremel into a router haha. I have to agree, trim routers are a good combination of size an ability.
LOL! The prices on some of the knock off trim routers have dropped so much that you can try one out without laying out a lot of money! I have seen them as low as $15! Insane! Once people know they will use such a tool they can go buy a good one! Same with angle grinders! For $20 you are crazy not to just give one a shot and see if you like it! Then you can buy a good one if you do! =) Thanks MB!!!!!!!!!
The pliers turned out great. Wish I could be there to meet you and all the other tool friends. But Kansas is a little far. Have fun and hope to see some video. Thanks
Hi Glen! LOL! Yes Kansas is far! However I will have the video!!!! Thanks!!!!
Another great job love your videos
Jacktown! Alright! Can't wait to see that. Not too many outings like that here! Thanks for sharing.
great advice on drill bits friend and loved the Channellock restoration shine shine shine lol PS we hit 75 deg on the west coast of Scotland today i await your next video friend
Almost 70 here today and Sunny! =D Thanks!!!!!!!!!
Well explained on deflection good reminder to us all. Restoration looks great. Thanks bro Anthony kent
Thanks Anthony!!!!!!
Recently picked up a Bosch 12v router so handy being cordless. Great job on the chanellocks as always.
Bosch makes some great stuff.. So does Makita! Thanks Bernie!
I won't attend the meet but I'll be eagerly waiting for the video!! Great job on that Channellock!!
Thanks so much! More about Channellock on Friday! Thanks again!
Awesome Scout
Awsome restoration!! By the way, I finally completed the dewalt! I'm taking it home tomorrow!!
Hello Mason! I still can't believe you got that running!!!!!!
@@ScoutCrafter we had to add another switch because the start up coil was destroyed. So we just cut some wire and added a nice shiny button
I just checked and my Channel Lock is a No 420 also. It has a date code of AC. That makes sense because I'm sure my Mom got it before 1957, maybe even as early as 1950 or so. One thing that is odd is that it looks like one handle has the metal pinched a bit at the far end. I should polish it up and maybe tighten the nut and bolt on it. There is no pitting which is great. Thanks for the video on these 420s. - Kathie
Hi Kathie!!! Wow! That is great that you still have them! They really do look nice all cleaned up! The steel was really high quality back then! If I didn't see the date I would never know when they were made! Thanks Kathie!!!!
Man I would love to make it to that meet in PA.
Hi Cliff! If you weren't in Maine it would be a nice trip! LOL I will shoot some footage!! Thanks!!!!!
You’d be in heaven here with all the year round flea markets. Man the tools they have in some of these places.
Man, I WISH I could go to Jacktown. It's not too far, but also not just a hop in the car.
LOL I know! 2 Hours for me! However it's really a nice ride and if you go early and leave early no traffic! The Sunday traffic is horrible! Well worth the trip, especially for this show. Sleep on it! =)
great video as always brother keep up the good work
Thanks Danoh!!!!!!!
Good restoration bro 👍👍👍
I don't mind instruction of tool use! Nice
wow youre so knowledgable.
i get such useful information from this channel. ever thought of making playlists categorizing your videos to maybe make it simpler to find certain information?
Hi Joe! Yes I always wanted to make some playlists, it would really help find the information! Thanks Joe!!
We dont say deflection in Turkey we say that drill bit make a "belly dance" because you must fill the right hole ....LOL...thnx for good video sir...
I'm pretty sure that 1957 was the year that the patent was registered/renewed, not necessarily the year that the wrench was produced. But what a beautiful wrench!
Funny, I was going to ask if the older Channellock pliers had the blue-coated handles. I wonder when that change happened and what their thinking was. ??? I've got to say that I really love their tools. I have a recent set of 430's with a rivet. They are a joy to use, but there is a bit of play that was there from the get-go that I wish was a bit snugger. ...also have some 80's vintage Craftsman slip-joint pliers that resemble 420's with a nut. ...very little play. Do you think Channellock made slip-joint pliers for Craftsman? Anyway, it was lots of fun to watch your restoration! ...and to learn about deflection and bit size. Fantastic. As always, thank you for sharing! I'm sorry that I'll miss the show. Have some fun for me!
Hi Daniel! I know Channellock made pliers for a bunch of tool companies! Most likely Sears too but I can't be sure. It's tough being tool nuts because we see things the average user doesn't, like slop and relieved edges... We are a tool companies worst nightmare! LOL You are going to laugh on tomorrows video! Thanks!!!!!
Nice.
great job,,i was at the flea market this weekend and bought super cheap set of augar bits usa made and thought of you I think I know you like brace bits.like to send you the sets.thanks tim
Hi Tim!!!! LOL Watch Friday's video and then drop me a line! You will LOL! Thanks much! bicycleguy@aol.com
I will gladly send you the bits for your friend to use.thx tim
I'm not big on safety signage, nor particularly safety. That said, I have one sign over my bench as a constant reminder. It reads, everything is a spring. I was taught that at the very beginning of becoming a machinist. It didn't entirely make sense at the time. As the years go on it makes more and more sense, as does keeping a sign to remind you. My grandfather had a similar saying, there is no such thing as overbuilt.
When are you opening a tool museum? There is much nice and history in what you are showing us UA-cams. Would be sad if it got lost one day.
Hello JJC! That would be great! Thanks very much!!
Great video. Bangor is over 8 hrs away or else I would be there.
Hi Abe! That is about 6 hours too far! LOL =D
@@ScoutCrafter Keep the New Jersey woodworking show open next year.
yeah i have some old proto channelock style wrenches i took from my dad's toolbox. and i have to say i prefer the bolt to the revit. and the new channelock are silk screen. the markings fade away after a bit of use.
Another great job, John! I noticed the square channel in the wrench, in the closing shot going straight up from roughly the nut. It’s past the curved channels for size adjustment so it’s not part of those. What does that feature do?
I think you are right on the money about the trim router. I bought a Bosch trim router and have been highly satisfied. Do you peen the bolt on the tool after assembly? Thanks for the video.
Hi Tony! When reassembling the bolt I use a combination of Loc-Tite and light peening, I find that really does a great job of keeping the right tension and staying secure too! Thanks Tony!!!!!
Those pliers are older than me and I garauntee it take more hours to make look good as new. One thing you have to control is your pace when working any thin bit. To easy to try to muscle them through a project. You bear down and it will walk and many times we try to fast track a job. Again a little effort is needed. Sharpen drill or cutter, add wax to help
Philip you are so right! Going gorilla on a small bit is a sure way to snap her right in the hole opening up a whole new problem!! LOL!!!!!! Just the thought gives me the chills! =-) Thanks!!!!
I bought a Channellock 422 last August from Amazon. The jaw edges are very sharp and very loose. It's always getting stuck when sliding the mechanism. The Channellock name and model number are barely visable. I'm wondering if they slipped in a knock-off somehow. I can't believe it passed QC.
Hi Glen! You are so right! Quality Control is an issue at Channellock these days! I'm going to do a video very soon on this problem! =) Thanks so much!!!!!!!!!
Great job on the pliers.. Quick question? Hows parking at the Jacktown Show? If arriving 10ish is parking a problem?
Those look exactly as the ones on my past video . the 420 plyers
Deflection in aluminum sheetmetal is always an issue. I find high speed drills work best to counteract it. My main drills are 3800 to 6000rpm. You can press the rivets in newer tools to get rid of the slop.
Wow! Those are some impressive speeds!!!!!!!! Most regular drills can't hit those speeds! You're right about the speed/feed to help! Thanks!!!!!!!!!
Great lesson
Thanks Brad!
The plumbers (2 plus their boss) who worked on our remodel many years ago swore by ChannelLocks--probably their most used not-speciality tool. Still made in the USA (some small town in PA, I think).
Hi Ken! Yes!! They are the best value for the dollar by far... I will have small rant on Friday but I am still a fan!! =) Thanks so much!
Any tips for tightening a pair with a rivet. I have a pair from Mac tools that is wobbly.
Hi Erich! I have been lucky using the hydraulic press but with some rivets they don't move! =) Thanks!!!!!
On the newer channel lock model do you think they put a ribbit to have less play over time? Or do you think becuse it's more cost effective? The reason I'm asking is because a lot Pittsburgh pliers at Harborfreight have the nut and bolt and your able to adjust them if they do have play. Or is there no real difference? Just wondering, love your videos!
Great question! Honestly I have never worn out a pair of pliers... The rivets are great if they are well made like Klein pliers! Their rivets never wear out! The bad part about nuts is they can loosen up over time... I think a good pair of pliers will last one lifetime with either design.. =) Thanks!!!!!
Scoutcrafter, have you ever considered creating a Facebook group?
1. It would give you a new platform for posting and sharing videos.
2. It could easily increase your viewership. People will definitely be sharing your videos.
3. It would give you a platform for greater interaction with viewers and subscribers.
4. Individual members could post and ask questions about projects, tools, repairs, tools they are interested in buying, and tool related problems. I could really use a group like that to learn about the different blades made for an angle grinder, and how to use them. I’m sure people around the world could help teach me.
I started 2 military history groups only 4 years ago, and have a total of 55,000 members today, so let me know if you need input or suggestions if you decide to start a group!!!!
For instance, I stumbled across a pair of channel locks with handles that are at least 3 feet long! A Scoutcrafter FB group would be the perfect place to ask about them, and a picture too!!!
I found one of my Grandfather's old pair of Channelocks today...do you have a detailed how to video or blog on what's needed to restore them? I would like to do it but I don't want to ruin them either.
I use the same procedure with all tools... First- Wire Brush the Pliers, Second-Use the belt sander to get rid of imperfections.. Third-Polish them on the buffer! Same procedure for all tools! =) I did a bunch of pliers in past videos! They all follow the same steps! Thanks!!!!!!!!!
Trim router on the shopping list now. Ty! Any thoughts on band/table saws and induction vs universal motors? I burnt out my first table saw trying to resaw a 2x4... Lesson learned there ... But not sure quite where I need to go next. I want to be able to resaw hardwood to make bows and spear shafts, I have a 12 inch thick piece of black locust. I know I can split it into quarters with wedges, but I'd really like to be able to resaw the quarters... I'm looking at building a table saw but I don't know what I should do for power. I'm pretty sure I have 3 phase power (still have to ask hydro) but like do I need a 5 hp motor? Or is 2 hp enough? Or am I missing something? I'm wary of putting more money in a table saw atm ... But it's because I think I really need a band saw ... But I like skil 's wormdrive... Not sure what to do. I basically want a saw that makes any wood that sees it crap its pants...but not so big that I want to crap mine trying to use it... (pardon the expression) and I guess, what is the effect of deflection on torque?
The Sky forge, if your into bow making , and want to easily rip down large timber into bow staves I would advise you to invest in as large a bandsaw as you can a ford, if your talking about timber 12" thick you'll need a machine well on top of its work,definately something industrial. As scout says ,rigidity ,rigidity, having personally owned several large bandsaw in the past, I would recommend them over a circular saw for what you are doing, and once you've used one you'll wish you had one sooner ,oh, and usually their safer to use than a large table saw, But *that's down to the operator. Hope this helps. Kind regards. Stuart.
@@stuartlockwood9645 Roger. I hear u loud n clear Stuart. I think I'm going to build one. My only concern is do I need 5 hp? Less? More? I want to buy the motor and build the machine around it.
But I only really want to do it once. One saw to rule them all, so to speak.
Hello SF! The way to go is definitely Induction, Brushed motors for table saws just are way too noisy! My old Craftsman is more then strong enough to handle almost any job! The ket is to have a Good Carbide tipped blade so as not to strain the motor! The problem with HP ratings is they aren't to be trusted... If your table saw is light enough to move around without much effort then I can guarantee the motor is light duty. The table saw motor should be big and heavy! =) The table top should be cast iron and the saw should cost well over $400! LOL The light duty "Contractor saws" that are being sold today just don't have the power! =) Thanks!!!!!!!! Good saw and good blade and you can have a great time!!!!
@@ScoutCrafter So that's another vote for sharp blades then! Ty SC! I'll take it under consideration. Next step is to talk to Hydro.
Good super good
Thanks Stefan!!!!!!
I was at Lowe's awhile back interested in getting the larger set of channelocks. I forget the model. The huge ones. But I found that every single set they had, in all sizes, had damage in the EXACT spot. Some sort of packaging fail.
Hi Jesse!!!! You are very smart to look thru the different packages!!! I too bought a pair last year and had to look thru all the models to get one that was decent! The fit and finish really varies!! Thanks Jesse!
Dremel router? Firmly in the gimmick section. BTW great advice on deflection - is that one of the reasons some thinner drill bits tend to snap? Q. Are motors with a centre shank more 'chattery' than offset [belt driven] machines e.g. drill press etc?
Hi Keith! We have all had that issue with small drill bits breaking! What a hassle! Especially trying to get the bit out! Yikes! I have found that since using the Tap Magic cutting fluid and not going gorilla on my bits I have been super lucky! Also I prefer HSS over Cobalt for most drilling... Some belt driven machines can be a problem because of a bent belt! I will address that on Monday for you Keith!!!!!!! Thanks!!!!!!!!
@@ScoutCrafter Cheers, I'm looking forward to it.